Bigfoot DNA - Page 105

Jodie · 22nd March 2013, 03:40 AM

I've run into this before, some people mistake basic courtesy to mean much more than it actually does. I don't know who this person is that feels like they are kin to Dr. Sykes but I'm waiting to see what Dr. Sykes has to say about all of this.

Resume · 22nd March 2013, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by Jodie

I've run into this before, some people mistake basic courtesy to mean much more than it actually does. I don't know who this person is that feels like they are kin to Dr. Sykes but I'm waiting to see what Dr. Sykes has to say about all of this.

Might just be an early spring romance.

GT/CS · 22nd March 2013, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by Castro

http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.fr/2...interview.html
http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.fr/2...xpedition.html

Here is the "Big Guy":
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TaII8_i0Q4...s_reserved.jpg

and Lori Simmons and her "Big Guy":
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kD4DJTwXOB...s_reserved.jpg

Welcome in bigfootery Dr. Sykes.

Don't subsequent photos show this to be a guy in a sleeping bag or wrapped in a blanket, or is this a different event?

Castro · 22nd March 2013, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by GT/CS

Don't subsequent photos show this to be a guy in a sleeping bag or wrapped in a blanket, or is this a different event?

http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.fr/2...xpedition.html :

Quote:

...The sequence shows the only two people that EE (Extreme Expeditions) has clarified as sleeping outside that night, which is Cryptozoologist Adam Davies and researcher Lori Simmons....

...and the video shows clearly (IMO) that the "Big Guy" wears a headlamp ( see the light beam moving with his head), just like Adam Davies (the guy of the pics) does:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

Wolrab · 22nd March 2013, 09:00 AM

My prediction is that the world of bigfootery will not be too happy with Dr. Sykes next year.

William Parcher · 22nd March 2013, 09:08 AM

But next year there will be dozens of new sightings and hundreds of people who would believe the claimants. None of them will give a damn about Sykes. Bigfootery marches onwards no matter what happens. All that is required for Bigfootery is gullible and eccentric people. The world has plenty of them.

tsig · 22nd March 2013, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Resume

Might just be an early spring romance.

In the spring of the year
in the spring of the year

I walked with bigfoot
It was all so clear

In the fall of the year
In the fall of the year

There was no bigfoot
I had a tear

Tis not his going that haunts my days
But that he went in such little ways.

With apologies to Edna

AlaskaBushPilot · 23rd March 2013, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Castro

My point is that there's just no evidence that Wally Hersom backs or has backed the TBRC as he backs or has backed the BFRO, the OP, Ketchum... (afaik).

Thanks Castro. We know about these because the organizations themselves revealed so or a reporter did in association with an article he was doing on them or Hersom.

The TBRC is very slippery, and it has been a while since I was looking into their stuff but they were below some dollar amount that the IRS has for making public reports. The big tax exempt foundations have to make public reports. TBRC doesn't.

But in their materials they were talking about all the trail cams that they got donated, which were of course going to be the gimmick that once and for all proved the existence of bigfoot. I can't remember if I found a direct link to Hersom back then or if I made that inference because he was doing the same thing in the Pacific Northwest.

But regardless - someone donated all of those trail cams according to their own publications. They were supposedly some expensive new generation camera. Personally I am shocked with the failure to capture bigfoot with them because I was certain this would do the trick.

Once you have a deep pocket like that donating all these cameras then you also justify your own expenses as tax-deductable for what amounts to recreation. Your transportation, food, clothes - anything you can pretend is in conjunction with this fake bigfoot tax-exempt organization's alleged projects in Area X.

I would love to have my recreational expenses (oops I mean research) tax deductible. For example, my re-creation of Roger Patterson's trip to Thailand. Airfare, hotel, restaurants, my "field assistants"

etc. All tax deductible. Who else gets to write off their expenses taking their family on vacation to national parks? Have their fancy cameras paid for by someone else. I'll bet they have great bear and deer pictures in frames on the walls of their own homes. I intend to have some pictures from my Thailand Research Expedition too. Those will also not be of bigfoot.

Castro · 24th March 2013, 05:07 AM

Talking about non-profit organizations, the Melba Ketchum Global Sasquatch Foundation is presented as such here:
http://www.melbaketchum.org/about-us/

Quote:

"The Melba Ketchum Global Sasquatch Foundation is a non-profit organization founded to protect the indigenous Sasquatch people from threats to their peaceful coexistence alongside us."

but actually it seems to be registered as a "general business" (for-profit) entity:
http://www.bizapedia.com/tx/GLOBAL-S...OUNDATION.html

and the IRS's Exempt Organization Search gives no result for a Global Sasquatch Foundation in Garland TX.

idoubtit · 2nd April 2013, 07:45 AM

The chronology of the Ketchum Project is now in print. It's a multi-page, rather exhaustive writeup in Skeptical Briefs. It's not online yet, only in paper copy. This forum was a HUGE help in figuring out what happened and getting references for each statement (even if they were blog posts). There are 55 references.

A shorter version will be in the news section of the next Skeptical Inquirer.

As is typical, I expect ZERO response from the Bigfoot community. They only listen to other bleevers.

Resume · 2nd April 2013, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by idoubtit

The chronology of the Ketchum Project is now in print. It's a multi-page, rather exhaustive writeup in Skeptical Briefs. It's not online yet, only in paper copy. This forum was a HUGE help in figuring out what happened and getting references for each statement (even if they were blog posts). There are 55 references.

A shorter version will be in the news section of the next Skeptical Inquirer.

As is typical, I expect ZERO response from the Bigfoot community. They only listen to other bleevers.

http://doubtfulnews.com/wp-content/u...4856248437.jpg

Excellent work.

calwaterbear · 2nd April 2013, 07:26 PM

First she used as a reference a well known april fools day paper from a journal, and now yesterday, some pranksters put up a spoof website explaining that they would be sueing Texas dept of wildlife for allowing the hunting of BF.
Within minutes our old friend Robin Lynne Haynes pfeifer forest people posts a comment prodly naming her boss as the go to in bigfoot as a species, a few hours later Melba styarts crowing on her FB page.

So today of course she has to walk it all back, so obviously the pranksters have set back bigfoot research by making a joke out of it!

Hellow Robin - hows the alias game going? care to give us a hint on what the next edition of your name will be?

leisureclass · 2nd April 2013, 11:16 PM

The best part of Ketchum's post is her statement that the ALDF hurt her study's legitimacy. Apparently only Ketchum's allowed to do that.

Resume · 3rd April 2013, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by leisureclass

The best part of Ketchum's post is her statement that the ALDF hurt her study's legitimacy. Apparently only Ketchum's allowed to do that.

Even the hoaxers get hoaxed sometimes.

Drewbot · 3rd April 2013, 06:08 AM

Do you really think someone who is claiming that BIGFOOT is braiding her horse's hair, and eating blueberry bagels, in Western Michigan, cares even a smidge, about her paper's legitimacy?

The only thing this person is looking for, is acceptance among Bigfooters as their fearless DNA Pioneer.

idoubtit · 3rd April 2013, 06:37 AM

Heh. My comments on her page were removed. As usual. But I screen capped them just for fun.
http://t.co/kofv26ABd0

LTC8K6 · 3rd April 2013, 09:17 AM

I just saw a show on Sheepsquatch...

Somebody call Melba. That's gotta be interesting DNA...

tsig · 3rd April 2013, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

Do you really think someone who is claiming that BIGFOOT is braiding her horse's hair, and eating blueberry bagels, in Western Michigan, cares even a smidge, about her paper's legitimacy?

The only thing this person is looking for, is acceptance among Bigfooters as their fearless DNA Pioneer.

And $.

StankApe · 3rd April 2013, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

I just saw a show on Sheepsquatch...

Somebody call Melba. That's gotta be interesting DNA...

the data would Ba-a-a-a-ad!

Wolrab · 4th April 2013, 01:46 PM

Ewe just better knock it off!

Resume · 4th April 2013, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Wolrab

Ewe just better knock it off!

There was a brief discussion in the Shroud thread about Jesus as Bigfoot.

Sheepsquatch . . . Lamb of God . . .

Right?

clayflingythingy · 6th April 2013, 09:24 AM

Just did a quick drop in over @ BFF.

Amazingly there are still TRUE Bleevers defending the Ketchum hoax!

River · 6th April 2013, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by clayflingythingy

Just did a quick drop in over @ BFF.

Amazingly there are still TRUE Bleevers defending the Ketchum hoax!

Exchange "Ketchum" with: Patterson, Wallace, Freeman, Dyer, Standing, Randles, and his bigfoot spins on things (elk lay what, sierra kills what) Bipto/Brown, and his group, Meldrum and his endorsements of all things bigfoot, even the proven hoaxes... Then you're on it.

Of course you should probably include ALL of those claimed "habituation" people too.

Elypsis44 · 6th April 2013, 10:52 AM

Here's a good place for this. I was at the Ripley's in Gatlinburg, Tennessee last month. This was on the wall. Sorry about the size, but maybe you can read it. REAL Yeti hair! "These hairs are long, black and coarse." Good LOLs:

Drewbot · 8th April 2013, 01:48 PM

Did anyone read this? A transcript of Justin Smeja talking about Melba Ketchum?

http://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/2...n-human-being/

Quote:

Then she goes into this really weird story about how, she’s talking about how there’s this place in her pasture where the bigfoots hang out at, this family of five of ‘em. This family of five she gets to interact with and they telepathically talk to her, I guess. And she says she’s opening the gate to her pasture one day, and she wakes up on the ground and she’s sore.
And I said “What do you mean, you were sore? like, what do you mean?
and she says, “Well, you know.”
[Smeja:] “No, no, I do not know.”
She said, “Well, I woke up and I was sore.”
[Smeja:]“So you walk in, right, you fall and you wake up and you’re sore.”
She said, “No, I was opening the gate and I woke up and I was sore.”
I don’t know what she meant by any of that. She never really got into it. She talked about how they’re really gentle. And how… see, I was wondering if it was a telepathic thing…where like she like wakes up on the ground, she’s sore, they like, visited her….I don’t know what she meant, I don’t know what she was talking about. I really, really don’t.
That stuff…all that…. forest people, Telepathic, whatever, samples talking to people, family of fives, ???sticks, I can get past all that, I really can. That wasn’t even, um, well I was pretty shocked, but that wasn’t the part that made me sick to my stomach.

GT/CS · 8th April 2013, 02:15 PM

I don't trust Justin as far as I can throw him but if any of what he said is true this part reinforces what we've been saying all along.

"She says, “Well, Justin, I got special ways of testing stuff. I got special ways of making things seem different than they really are.”
I said “Ooo-kay…so why do I need to destroy the sample?”
She said “Well, if another lab gets that, they’re just gonna get a regular animal. That’s what happens with most of these samples. They send them somewhere else and they just end up getting you know like a fox or coyote or bear or something like that. So, you know, they don’t understand how to do it. This is new technology, this is pretty deep ****. So I really need you to destroy that sample."

HarryHenderson · 8th April 2013, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

Did anyone read this? A transcript of Justin Smeja talking about Melba Ketchum?
http://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/2...n-human-being/

Besides pointing out the nonstop lunacy of everything Ketchum, are you also saying that perhaps her 'DNA extraction techniques' are a bit different than we've been led to believe?

Originally Posted by GT/CS

I don't trust Justin as far as I can throw him but if any of what he said is true this part reinforces what we've been saying all along.

"She says, “Well, Justin, I got special ways of testing stuff. I got special ways of making things seem different than they really are.”
I said “Ooo-kay…so why do I need to destroy the sample?”
She said “Well, if another lab gets that, they’re just gonna get a regular animal. That’s what happens with most of these samples. They send them somewhere else and they just end up getting you know like a fox or coyote or bear or something like that. So, you know, they don’t understand how to do it. This is new technology, this is pretty deep ****. So I really need you to destroy that sample."

I wanna know how a supposed DNA scientist 'on the cutting edge of science' becomes so involved in the life of the mere donors of some supposed unknown DNA? Hmmmm. It begins with 'm'. I'd consider his words truth given she's essentially confessing her sins to the very guy she needs to to pull off the scam properly (at least initially). You know Wally Hersom was literally the next call Ketchum made after Justin's.

tsig · 8th April 2013, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by HarryHenderson

Besides pointing out the nonstop lunacy of everything Ketchum, are you also saying that perhaps her 'DNA extraction techniques' are a bit different than we've been led to believe?

How soon til we see "I married bigfoot" again.

The 19-year-old girl was "married" to the Bigfoot for almost a year. The girl lost her way in the woods one day, after she had been hurt by her boyfriend. She went to wander in the woods just because she could stay there alone with her feelings.

Resume · 9th April 2013, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by clayflingythingy

Just did a quick drop in over @ BFF.

Amazingly there are still TRUE Bleevers defending the Ketchum hoax!

Yeah, even Scully's partner has resurfaced. But what else would one expect from a place where the hot topics include Is Sasquatch Eating Our Kids and Invisible Bigfoot.

22nd March 2013, 03:40 AM	#4161
Jodie Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,908	I've run into this before, some people mistake basic courtesy to mean much more than it actually does. I don't know who this person is that feels like they are kin to Dr. Sykes but I'm waiting to see what Dr. Sykes has to say about all of this.
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22nd March 2013, 04:53 AM	#4162
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,021	Originally Posted by Jodie I've run into this before, some people mistake basic courtesy to mean much more than it actually does. I don't know who this person is that feels like they are kin to Dr. Sykes but I'm waiting to see what Dr. Sykes has to say about all of this. Might just be an early spring romance.
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,021

22nd March 2013, 05:23 AM	#4163
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,591	Originally Posted by Castro http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.fr/2...interview.html http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.fr/2...xpedition.html Here is the "Big Guy": http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TaII8_i0Q4...s_reserved.jpg and Lori Simmons and her "Big Guy": http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kD4DJTwXOB...s_reserved.jpg Welcome in bigfootery Dr. Sykes. Don't subsequent photos show this to be a guy in a sleeping bag or wrapped in a blanket, or is this a different event?
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,591	__________________ SweatyYeti or Bill Munns would be my vote for looking at this - BFSleuth @ BFF I've got plenty of common sense! I just choose to ignore it. - Calvin; October 15, 1986

22nd March 2013, 09:00 AM	#4165
Wolrab Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beautiful Finger Lakes Posts: 1,711	My prediction is that the world of bigfootery will not be too happy with Dr. Sykes next year.
	__________________ "Such reports are usually based on the sighting of something the sighters cannot explain and that they (or someone else on their behalf) explain as representing an interstellar spaceship-often by saying "But what else can it be?" as though thier own ignorance is a decisive factor." Isaac Asimov

22nd March 2013, 09:08 AM	#4166
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,504	But next year there will be dozens of new sightings and hundreds of people who would believe the claimants. None of them will give a damn about Sykes. Bigfootery marches onwards no matter what happens. All that is required for Bigfootery is gullible and eccentric people. The world has plenty of them.
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22nd March 2013, 09:16 AM	#4167
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,762	Originally Posted by Resume Might just be an early spring romance. In the spring of the year in the spring of the year I walked with bigfoot It was all so clear In the fall of the year In the fall of the year There was no bigfoot I had a tear Tis not his going that haunts my days But that he went in such little ways. With apologies to Edna

23rd March 2013, 04:04 PM	#4168
AlaskaBushPilot Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,609	Originally Posted by Castro My point is that there's just no evidence that Wally Hersom backs or has backed the TBRC as he backs or has backed the BFRO, the OP, Ketchum... (afaik). Thanks Castro. We know about these because the organizations themselves revealed so or a reporter did in association with an article he was doing on them or Hersom. The TBRC is very slippery, and it has been a while since I was looking into their stuff but they were below some dollar amount that the IRS has for making public reports. The big tax exempt foundations have to make public reports. TBRC doesn't. But in their materials they were talking about all the trail cams that they got donated, which were of course going to be the gimmick that once and for all proved the existence of bigfoot. I can't remember if I found a direct link to Hersom back then or if I made that inference because he was doing the same thing in the Pacific Northwest. But regardless - someone donated all of those trail cams according to their own publications. They were supposedly some expensive new generation camera. Personally I am shocked with the failure to capture bigfoot with them because I was certain this would do the trick. Once you have a deep pocket like that donating all these cameras then you also justify your own expenses as tax-deductable for what amounts to recreation. Your transportation, food, clothes - anything you can pretend is in conjunction with this fake bigfoot tax-exempt organization's alleged projects in Area X. I would love to have my recreational expenses (oops I mean research) tax deductible. For example, my re-creation of Roger Patterson's trip to Thailand. Airfare, hotel, restaurants, my "field assistants" etc. All tax deductible. Who else gets to write off their expenses taking their family on vacation to national parks? Have their fancy cameras paid for by someone else. I'll bet they have great bear and deer pictures in frames on the walls of their own homes. I intend to have some pictures from my Thailand Research Expedition too. Those will also not be of bigfoot.

24th March 2013, 05:07 AM	#4169
Castro Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 290	Talking about non-profit organizations, the Melba Ketchum Global Sasquatch Foundation is presented as such here: http://www.melbaketchum.org/about-us/ Quote: "The Melba Ketchum Global Sasquatch Foundation is a non-profit organization founded to protect the indigenous Sasquatch people from threats to their peaceful coexistence alongside us." but actually it seems to be registered as a "general business" (for-profit) entity: http://www.bizapedia.com/tx/GLOBAL-S...OUNDATION.html and the IRS's Exempt Organization Search gives no result for a Global Sasquatch Foundation in Garland TX.
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2nd April 2013, 07:45 AM	#4170
idoubtit Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Central PA Posts: 318	Ketchum project in print The chronology of the Ketchum Project is now in print. It's a multi-page, rather exhaustive writeup in Skeptical Briefs. It's not online yet, only in paper copy. This forum was a HUGE help in figuring out what happened and getting references for each statement (even if they were blog posts). There are 55 references. A shorter version will be in the news section of the next Skeptical Inquirer. As is typical, I expect ZERO response from the Bigfoot community. They only listen to other bleevers.
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2nd April 2013, 08:27 AM	#4171
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,021	Originally Posted by idoubtit The chronology of the Ketchum Project is now in print. It's a multi-page, rather exhaustive writeup in Skeptical Briefs. It's not online yet, only in paper copy. This forum was a HUGE help in figuring out what happened and getting references for each statement (even if they were blog posts). There are 55 references. A shorter version will be in the news section of the next Skeptical Inquirer. As is typical, I expect ZERO response from the Bigfoot community. They only listen to other bleevers. http://doubtfulnews.com/wp-content/u...4856248437.jpg Excellent work.
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,021

2nd April 2013, 07:26 PM	#4172
calwaterbear Thinker Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 232	April Fools Day is a bad day for Melba! First she used as a reference a well known april fools day paper from a journal, and now yesterday, some pranksters put up a spoof website explaining that they would be sueing Texas dept of wildlife for allowing the hunting of BF. Within minutes our old friend Robin Lynne Haynes pfeifer forest people posts a comment prodly naming her boss as the go to in bigfoot as a species, a few hours later Melba styarts crowing on her FB page. So today of course she has to walk it all back, so obviously the pranksters have set back bigfoot research by making a joke out of it! Hellow Robin - hows the alias game going? care to give us a hint on what the next edition of your name will be?
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2nd April 2013, 11:16 PM	#4173
leisureclass Student Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 29	The best part of Ketchum's post is her statement that the ALDF hurt her study's legitimacy. Apparently only Ketchum's allowed to do that.
leisureclass Student Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 29	Last edited by leisureclass; 2nd April 2013 at 11:17 PM. Reason: fixing grammar

3rd April 2013, 05:20 AM	#4174
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,021	Originally Posted by leisureclass The best part of Ketchum's post is her statement that the ALDF hurt her study's legitimacy. Apparently only Ketchum's allowed to do that. Even the hoaxers get hoaxed sometimes.
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,021

3rd April 2013, 06:08 AM	#4175
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,846	Do you really think someone who is claiming that BIGFOOT is braiding her horse's hair, and eating blueberry bagels, in Western Michigan, cares even a smidge, about her paper's legitimacy? The only thing this person is looking for, is acceptance among Bigfooters as their fearless DNA Pioneer.
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3rd April 2013, 06:37 AM	#4176
idoubtit Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Central PA Posts: 318	Heh. My comments on her page were removed. As usual. But I screen capped them just for fun. http://t.co/kofv26ABd0
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3rd April 2013, 09:17 AM	#4177
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 12,658	I just saw a show on Sheepsquatch... Somebody call Melba. That's gotta be interesting DNA...
	__________________ What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break?

3rd April 2013, 03:28 PM	#4178
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,762	Originally Posted by Drewbot Do you really think someone who is claiming that BIGFOOT is braiding her horse's hair, and eating blueberry bagels, in Western Michigan, cares even a smidge, about her paper's legitimacy? The only thing this person is looking for, is acceptance among Bigfooters as their fearless DNA Pioneer. And $.

3rd April 2013, 03:31 PM	#4179
StankApe Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,643	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 I just saw a show on Sheepsquatch... Somebody call Melba. That's gotta be interesting DNA... the data would Ba-a-a-a-ad!
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4th April 2013, 01:46 PM	#4180
Wolrab Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beautiful Finger Lakes Posts: 1,711	Ewe just better knock it off!
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4th April 2013, 01:52 PM	#4181
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,021	Originally Posted by Wolrab Ewe just better knock it off! There was a brief discussion in the Shroud thread about Jesus as Bigfoot. Sheepsquatch . . . Lamb of God . . . Right?
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,021

6th April 2013, 09:24 AM	#4182
clayflingythingy Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 327	Just did a quick drop in over @ BFF. Amazingly there are still TRUE Bleevers defending the Ketchum hoax!

6th April 2013, 10:15 AM	#4183
River Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,651	Originally Posted by clayflingythingy Just did a quick drop in over @ BFF. Amazingly there are still TRUE Bleevers defending the Ketchum hoax! Exchange "Ketchum" with: Patterson, Wallace, Freeman, Dyer, Standing, Randles, and his bigfoot spins on things (elk lay what, sierra kills what) Bipto/Brown, and his group, Meldrum and his endorsements of all things bigfoot, even the proven hoaxes... Then you're on it. Of course you should probably include ALL of those claimed "habituation" people too.
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6th April 2013, 10:52 AM	#4184
Elypsis44 Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,424	Here's a good place for this. I was at the Ripley's in Gatlinburg, Tennessee last month. This was on the wall. Sorry about the size, but maybe you can read it. REAL Yeti hair! "These hairs are long, black and coarse." Good LOLs:
Elypsis44 Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,424	Last edited by Elypsis44; 6th April 2013 at 10:56 AM.

8th April 2013, 01:48 PM	#4185
Drewbot Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,846	Did anyone read this? A transcript of Justin Smeja talking about Melba Ketchum? http://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/2...n-human-being/ Quote: Then she goes into this really weird story about how, she’s talking about how there’s this place in her pasture where the bigfoots hang out at, this family of five of ‘em. This family of five she gets to interact with and they telepathically talk to her, I guess. And she says she’s opening the gate to her pasture one day, and she wakes up on the ground and she’s sore. And I said “What do you mean, you were sore? like, what do you mean? and she says, “Well, you know.” [Smeja:] “No, no, I do not know.” She said, “Well, I woke up and I was sore.” [Smeja:]“So you walk in, right, you fall and you wake up and you’re sore.” She said, “No, I was opening the gate and I woke up and I was sore.” I don’t know what she meant by any of that. She never really got into it. She talked about how they’re really gentle. And how… see, I was wondering if it was a telepathic thing…where like she like wakes up on the ground, she’s sore, they like, visited her….I don’t know what she meant, I don’t know what she was talking about. I really, really don’t. That stuff…all that…. forest people, Telepathic, whatever, samples talking to people, family of fives, ???sticks, I can get past all that, I really can. That wasn’t even, um, well I was pretty shocked, but that wasn’t the part that made me sick to my stomach.
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8th April 2013, 02:15 PM	#4186
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,591	I don't trust Justin as far as I can throw him but if any of what he said is true this part reinforces what we've been saying all along. "She says, “Well, Justin, I got special ways of testing stuff. I got special ways of making things seem different than they really are.” I said “Ooo-kay…so why do I need to destroy the sample?” She said “Well, if another lab gets that, they’re just gonna get a regular animal. That’s what happens with most of these samples. They send them somewhere else and they just end up getting you know like a fox or coyote or bear or something like that. So, you know, they don’t understand how to do it. This is new technology, this is pretty deep ****. So I really need you to destroy that sample."
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8th April 2013, 02:46 PM	#4187
HarryHenderson Muse Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: All up in your business Posts: 706	Originally Posted by Drewbot Did anyone read this? A transcript of Justin Smeja talking about Melba Ketchum? http://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/2...n-human-being/ Besides pointing out the nonstop lunacy of everything Ketchum, are you also saying that perhaps her 'DNA extraction techniques' are a bit different than we've been led to believe? Originally Posted by GT/CS I don't trust Justin as far as I can throw him but if any of what he said is true this part reinforces what we've been saying all along. "She says, “Well, Justin, I got special ways of testing stuff. I got special ways of making things seem different than they really are.” I said “Ooo-kay…so why do I need to destroy the sample?” She said “Well, if another lab gets that, they’re just gonna get a regular animal. That’s what happens with most of these samples. They send them somewhere else and they just end up getting you know like a fox or coyote or bear or something like that. So, you know, they don’t understand how to do it. This is new technology, this is pretty deep ***. So I really need you to destroy that sample." I wanna know how a supposed* DNA scientist 'on the cutting edge of science' becomes so involved in the life of the mere donors of some supposed unknown DNA? Hmmmm. It begins with 'm'. I'd consider his words truth given she's essentially confessing her sins to the very guy she needs to to pull off the scam properly (at least initially). You know Wally Hersom was literally the next call Ketchum made after Justin's.
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8th April 2013, 03:15 PM	#4188
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 26,762	Originally Posted by HarryHenderson Besides pointing out the nonstop lunacy of everything Ketchum, are you also saying that perhaps her 'DNA extraction techniques' are a bit different than we've been led to believe? How soon til we see "I married bigfoot" again. The 19-year-old girl was "married" to the Bigfoot for almost a year. The girl lost her way in the woods one day, after she had been hurt by her boyfriend. She went to wander in the woods just because she could stay there alone with her feelings.

9th April 2013, 04:30 PM	#4189
Resume Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,021	Originally Posted by clayflingythingy Just did a quick drop in over @ BFF. Amazingly there are still TRUE Bleevers defending the Ketchum hoax! Yeah, even Scully's partner has resurfaced. But what else would one expect from a place where the hot topics include Is Sasquatch Eating Our Kids and Invisible Bigfoot.
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