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jimbob · 17th December 2012, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Keith

Since the most recent act was in Connecticut are you calling Canada a "violent, developing country" or do you not understand that proximity of Mexico to the northeast?

Also most of the guns used Illegally in Mexico (70% IIRC, I have a link in an earlier post of mine) came from the US. So the gun trade is in the "wrong" direction.

Ranb · 17th December 2012, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Sunstealer

One thing though, you can't get a permit to own a 1000 lb bomb. Building bombs takes time and materials then you've got to transfer it to the target. That means there is more time for the intention to be found out and the act stopped.

You can as far as I know, make a bomb without a license or permit, just fill out the ATF form 1 and send it in along with a check for $200. If you use a trust to own it, then you can avoid the local sheriff's signature, fingerprints and photos.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/i...ve-device.html

Quote:

National Firearms Act Definitions
Destructive Device
26 U.S.C. § 5845(F)

For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Destructive Device” means:

A missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than 1/4 oz.
Any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may readily be converted to expel a projectile, by the action of an explosive or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore greater than one-half inch in diameter.
A combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a device into a destructive device and from which a destructive device can be readily assembled.

I am assuming that a bomb that is not also a missile will still be a destructive device. The law says the ATF has to consider each application and I have never heard of them denying approval to anyone who filled out the forms correctly. But I would not be very surprised if I was denied authorization to make my own 1000 bomb. What would be my purpose for a 1000 lb bomb? The baddest fireworks display on the block I guess.

http://www.atf.gov/explosives/how-to/
http://www.atf.gov/explosives/industry/
The BATFE has an explosive license that people obtain for their businesses that require it. I presume that mining operations would get something like this.

Ranb

17th December 2012, 01:20 PM	#81
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 5,189	Originally Posted by Dr. Keith Since the most recent act was in Connecticut are you calling Canada a "violent, developing country" or do you not understand that proximity of Mexico to the northeast? Also most of the guns used Illegally in Mexico (70% IIRC, I have a link in an earlier post of mine) came from the US. So the gun trade is in the "wrong" direction.
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17th December 2012, 01:22 PM	#82
Ranb Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA USA Posts: 4,205	Originally Posted by Sunstealer One thing though, you can't get a permit to own a 1000 lb bomb. Building bombs takes time and materials then you've got to transfer it to the target. That means there is more time for the intention to be found out and the act stopped. You can as far as I know, make a bomb without a license or permit, just fill out the ATF form 1 and send it in along with a check for $200. If you use a trust to own it, then you can avoid the local sheriff's signature, fingerprints and photos. http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/i...ve-device.html Quote: National Firearms Act Definitions Destructive Device 26 U.S.C. § 5845(F) For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Destructive Device” means: A missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than 1/4 oz. Any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may readily be converted to expel a projectile, by the action of an explosive or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore greater than one-half inch in diameter. A combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a device into a destructive device and from which a destructive device can be readily assembled. I am assuming that a bomb that is not also a missile will still be a destructive device. The law says the ATF has to consider each application and I have never heard of them denying approval to anyone who filled out the forms correctly. But I would not be very surprised if I was denied authorization to make my own 1000 bomb. What would be my purpose for a 1000 lb bomb? The baddest fireworks display on the block I guess. http://www.atf.gov/explosives/how-to/ http://www.atf.gov/explosives/industry/ The BATFE has an explosive license that people obtain for their businesses that require it. I presume that mining operations would get something like this. Ranb