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Old 22nd February 2013, 08:15 PM   #401
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I don't know Mr. cutino personally. But from what I have seen so far (Bigfoot conference appearances, posts ect.) he's not looking to decieve anybody or make money off of Bigfoot.
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Old 22nd February 2013, 08:31 PM   #402
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Bernie Madoff was a real nice guy and close friend to most of the big investors he had on the hook, I would be dead right now if I just took peoples word for it cause they where nice, trust no one and question everything, don't run on feelings run on facts, you will live longer.

You can do that with a heart just be smart about it.

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Old 22nd February 2013, 09:03 PM   #403
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Bart is an honest man and also seems to be good guy. I don't like it when people are looked down upon just because they are a footer. It's not right.
I remember that guy. He literally hated any kind of negative or skeptical talk about Bigfoot. Was obsessed with it. Saw Bigfoot everywhere in everything. To his detriment he was invested in it 100% emotionally and 10% intellectually. As if he's novel in having that foible.

So are you a 'footer'? And if so, how can you hang out here for, say 7 months, and not be at least pretty much convinced there is no Bigfoot? Skeptic?
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Old 22nd February 2013, 09:15 PM   #404
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If memory serves me didn't Bart have an encounter with a BF coming out of some water ~ ?

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Old 22nd February 2013, 09:33 PM   #405
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Originally Posted by HarryHenderson View Post
So are you a 'footer'? And if so, how can you hang out here for, say 7 months, and not be at least pretty much convinced there is no Bigfoot? Skeptic?

Like the other bleevers who come here, I fit into the "butthurt" category. Basically, I'm disappointed in the BFF. Mostly because there are so many clowns.
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Old 22nd February 2013, 09:52 PM   #406
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I remember that guy. He literally hated any kind of negative or skeptical talk about Bigfoot. Was obsessed with it. Saw Bigfoot everywhere in everything. To his detriment he was invested in it 100% emotionally and 10% intellectually. As if he's novel in having that foible. ...

Is that Bartlojays, or whatever it was? The BFRO dude?
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Old 23rd February 2013, 05:45 AM   #407
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Yeah, like OS I never got the impression that he was consciously trying to rip people off, or in it for attention, but genuinely really believes that bigfoot is out there based on a thermal he managed to get near the area where Justin had his encounter.
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Old 23rd February 2013, 06:17 AM   #408
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Ya he was or is BFRO.

You get judged by the company you keep, he hangs with hardcore footers, nuff said.

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Old 23rd February 2013, 06:24 AM   #409
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I wanna know what the PGF fanatics are saying about the "hybrid human" diagnosis by Ketchum. No way they can rationalize Patty is a hybrid person.

Are they going to claim there are several different kinds of Bigfoot?

Folks be crazy yo.
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Old 23rd February 2013, 07:13 AM   #410
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Oh they already do stank ape.
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Old 23rd February 2013, 10:00 AM   #411
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It's impossible to know a person's true motivations, but I have had a conversation or two with Bart in which he struck me as fully sincere in that he believes what he saw on his thermal imager had to have been a bigfoot.

Pending new information, I consider him in the group of people-who-experienced-something-they-can't-explain.

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Old 23rd February 2013, 10:07 AM   #412
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I consider him in the group of people-who-experienced-something-they-can't-explain.
No. He is very happy to explain what he experienced. It was Bigfoot.

A person who truly can't explain their experience would have no particular gravitation towards Bigfoot as an explanation.

They are different.
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Old 23rd February 2013, 10:18 AM   #413
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Originally Posted by The Shrike View Post
It's impossible to know a person's true motivations, but I have had a conversation or two with Bart in which he struck me as fully sincere in that he believes what he saw on his thermal imager had to have been a bigfoot.

Pending new information, I consider him in the group of people-who-experienced-something-they-can't-explain.

FWIW
Yet he's explained it.

ETA: This is the point at which an anecdote becomes a claim. "I saw something weird in the woods today Hon." versus "I something weird in the woods today Hon, and I think it was Bigfoot."

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Old 23rd February 2013, 10:40 AM   #414
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Yet he's explained it.

ETA: This is the point at which an anecdote becomes a claim. "I saw something weird in the woods today Hon." versus "I something weird in the woods today Hon, and I think it was Bigfoot."
Next:

I heard bigfoot

I saw bigfoot

I was bigfoot's love slave.
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Old 23rd February 2013, 10:45 AM   #415
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Next:

I heard bigfoot

I saw bigfoot

I was bigfoot's love slave.
I think the last is where these habituation scenarios have to end up. Harry and the Hendersons has already been done.
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Old 23rd February 2013, 03:25 PM   #416
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No. He is very happy to explain what he experienced. It was Bigfoot.

A person who truly can't explain their experience would have no particular gravitation towards Bigfoot as an explanation.

They are different.
He saw a human figure crouching down low outside the perimeter of the camp site (if I remember right.) If he had not been emotionally invested in Bigfoot, he probably would have wondered what the dude hiding nearby was up to.
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Old 23rd February 2013, 03:43 PM   #417
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You are right JW he thinks he seen BF with a night vision cam, I know I have seen it or a reenactment of it a few years back, I am trying to remember who it was that said they had a face to face with a BF coming out of a pond.

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Old 23rd February 2013, 08:19 PM   #418
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He saw a human figure crouching down low outside the perimeter of the camp site (if I remember right.) If he had not been emotionally invested in Bigfoot, he probably would have wondered what the dude hiding nearby was up to.
I can't criticize him for not approaching an unidentified figure at night watching their camp regardless of what it was in reality.
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Old 23rd February 2013, 08:25 PM   #419
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He was with a few others out looking for BF, no excuses for anything, a bunch of grown men being coward of a BF ???? the whole story is just basic BF BS.

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Old 23rd February 2013, 08:32 PM   #420
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I can't criticize him for not approaching an unidentified figure at night watching their camp regardless of what it was in reality.
Gee, I can. I've been camped in places where it might be important to establish what might be skulking about at the perimeter. Of course these were real entities like bears for which we could take the proper precautions.
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Old 23rd February 2013, 09:10 PM   #421
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Proper precaution: It's important to wear a tinfoil hat when out looking for Bigfoot. They can read our minds!
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Old 24th February 2013, 12:39 AM   #422
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I joined the BFF in either '99 or 00', and embarassingly enough for a few years there I was afraid that if I didn't log in every day I was gonna miss out on bigfoots discovery by any one of the members of the group.
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Proper precaution: It's important to wear a tinfoil hat when out looking for Bigfoot. They can read our minds!
Then footers should be transparent to them.
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Old 24th February 2013, 06:19 AM   #424
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No. He is very happy to explain what he experienced. It was Bigfoot.

A person who truly can't explain their experience would have no particular gravitation towards Bigfoot as an explanation.
That's what I wrote - the thing that he couldn't explain he explained as bigfoot:

" . . . he believes what he saw on his thermal imager had to have been a bigfoot. "

You're right though: he was a 'footer first or he never would've been pointing a thermal imager into the woods.
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Old 24th February 2013, 06:21 AM   #425
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Proper precaution: It's important to wear a tinfoil hat when out looking for Bigfoot. They can read our minds!
Do I detect that our dear OntarioSquatch has experienced some kind of epiphany with respect to the uncritical acceptance of bigfooty claims?
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Old 24th February 2013, 06:24 AM   #426
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Gee, I can. I've been camped in places where it might be important to establish what might be skulking about at the perimeter. Of course these were real entities like bears for which we could take the proper precautions.

Uhhh no , eventually you would, but if you aren't armed appropriately, you don't give your position away until you figure out what you are dealing with. He had no flashlight to navigate the terrain, just the thermal imager to give him some kind of visual.
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Look up there, it's Bart!

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Uhhh no , eventually you would, but if you aren't armed appropriately, you don't give your position away until you figure out what you are dealing with. He had no flashlight to navigate the terrain, just the thermal imager to give him some kind of visual.
Do you think I've never camped before?

No, you want a bear to know your position and you make that clear by making as much noise as possible. "HEY BEAR! HEY BEAR!" Unless it was hunting season I generally didn't go afield armed even in bear country and back in the day we didn't really carry bear spray. But even then we knew how to take precautions. Don't sleep in your cooking clothes, keep the food well away from the camp, hanging up a tree if possible. All the usual stuff. The last thing you want to do with a bear is to surprise it, and be surprised by it yourself. I've only run into a bear in that kind of situation twice, and both times from a far enough distance that we didn't have any problems.

And what kind of person goes into the bush without a flashlight, but carries a thermal camera? Seems a bit odd, but then again I'm not a bigfoot "researcher." So I guess I don't know how to proceed in a camping situation when visited by a nonexistent creature.

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I've always imagined footers as a much less intelligent version of the characters on, The Big Bang Theory, and they most likely would forget to take flashlights.
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I joined the BFF in either '99 or 00', and embarassingly enough for a few years there I was afraid that if I didn't log in every day I was gonna miss out on bigfoots discovery by any one of the members of the group.
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I've always imagined footers as a much less intelligent version of the characters on, The Big Bang Theory, and they most likely would forget to take flashlights.
I'm betting matches too.
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Do you think I've never camped before?

No, you want a bear to know your position and you make that clear by making as much noise as possible. "HEY BEAR! HEY BEAR!" Unless it was hunting season I generally didn't go afield armed even in bear country and back in the day we didn't really carry bear spray. But even then we knew how to take precautions. Don't sleep in your cooking clothes, keep the food well away from the camp, hanging up a tree if possible. All the usual stuff. The last thing you want to do with a bear is to surprise it, and be surprised by it yourself. I've only run into a bear in that kind of situation twice, and both times from a far enough distance that we didn't have any problems.

And what kind of person goes into the bush without a flashlight, but carries a thermal camera? Seems a bit odd, but then again I'm not a bigfoot "researcher." So I guess I don't know how to proceed in a camping situation when visited by a nonexistent creature.
Yeah, if it is a bear, but if it is an armed pot grower you might not want to be too hasty. At any rate, I don't think either option occured to Bart at the time, but that would have been what I thought before I concluded "bigfoot". Once bigfoot is the forgone conclusion you are no longer a "researcher" IMO.
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