Obama's budget...... 513-0

[BenBurch]

So, what was proposed was basically an empty template labelled "budget".

Is the GOP saying we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it?

Is that what they are saying?

[JoeTheJuggler]

Originally Posted by mhaze

First, if and to what extent it is a "gimmick", that assertion being unproven by you or your two links, said "gimmick" could only exist in the continued absence of the Bamster's budget being actually brought forth by Democrats.

It's a gimmick because the GOP made this proposal for the sole purpose of being able to claim that "Obama's budget" won no votes. Evidence: they themselves voted against the budget they proposed.

Actually the fact that the Democrats have no yet submitted a budget based on Obama's proposals is irrelevant to whether or not this was a gimmick.

[JoeTheJuggler]

Originally Posted by BenBurch

Is the GOP saying we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it?

If that were the case, why did they too vote against it?

I'm going with just a bit of political theater. It was a dishonest proposal concocted for the sole aim of getting the headlines like the one Applecorped fell for.

[Puppycow]

Originally Posted by mhaze

Nope, quite and not end of story.

First, if and to what extent it is a "gimmick", that assertion being unproven by you or your two links, said "gimmick" could only exist in the continued absence of the Bamster's budget being actually brought forth by Democrats.

And they know it'd lose, and that's why they have not done that. Thus the door is open for the Republicans to bring it up for a vote.

Showing up the incompentance of the Bamster and cronies. But you could be partly right, in that that incompetance wasn't in dispute?

You know, I do have to hand it to Republicans. Even though their policy ideas are disastrous, they are really good at the petty partisan games.

Democrats should bring a budget amendment based on Mitt Romney's campaign promises and see how many votes that gets.

[Shalamar]

Originally Posted by mhaze

Nope, quite and not end of story.

First, if and to what extent it is a "gimmick", that assertion being unproven by you or your two links, said "gimmick" could only exist in the continued absence of the Bamster's budget being actually brought forth by Democrats.

And they know it'd lose, and that's why they have not done that. Thus the door is open for the Republicans to bring it up for a vote.

Showing up the incompentance of the Bamster and cronies. But you could be partly right, in that that incompetance wasn't in dispute?

Don't worry. As soon as the conservatives manage to force a one party system in the US, you'll never have to worry about 'lefty-libs' again, nor will you have night terrors about a mythical person named 'Bamster'.

That said, this was a 'budget', in a loose sense, submitted by Republicans, with no specifics on how the budget would work, as a gimmick to attempt to make the 'lefty-libs' and mythical 'bamster' look bad? Sorry. People who actually look into the story will realize it's a cheap trick, and fairly meaningless.

Won't stop die hard conservatives from crowing all about it though.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Shalamar

Don't worry. As soon as the conservatives manage to force a one party system in the US, you'll never have to worry about 'lefty-libs' again, nor will you have night terrors about a mythical person named 'Bamster'.

That said, this was a 'budget', in a loose sense, submitted by Republicans, with no specifics on how the budget would work, as a gimmick to attempt to make the 'lefty-libs' and mythical 'bamster' look bad? Sorry. People who actually look into the story will realize it's a cheap trick, and fairly meaningless.

Won't stop die hard conservatives from crowing all about it though.

If I were a republican, even if I wanted the current president and other-party congress members out, I think I'd be furious at the fact that my party members in congress think that playing this game is somehow a good idea, and an important idea, considering the other issues I think they should be addressing. It would tell me a lot about their true ethics and capabilities, and I'd likely vote them all out next election.

[Shalamar]

Originally Posted by Denver

If I were a republican, even if I wanted the current president and other-party congress members out, I think I'd be furious at the fact that my party members in congress think that playing this game is somehow a good idea, and an important idea, considering the other issues I think they should be addressing. It would tell me a lot about their true ethics and capabilities, and I'd likely vote them all out next election.

The problem I see, is that so many people are incredibly partisan, that they'll only read 'Obama's Budget failed with no votes' and they'll point and laugh.

This certainly doesn't endear me to the republicans, playing pointless games like this instead of trying to actually work to fix the economy. Of course, I realize that since this is an election year, that no work will get done as each party tries to point out how stupid the other party is.

This is a stupid, trick, but as we can see from at least a couple posters here, a rather effective one.

[Denver]

As predicted, Glenn Beck loves this, and says it is EXACTLY Obama's budget.

Maybe the 56 pages that the republican's submitted, were actually taken out of the 2000 pages of the actual Obama budget.

Seems like saying I make EXACTLY as much money as Mitt Romney, since the dollars all have the same pictures on them.

[JoeTheJuggler]

Originally Posted by Denver

As predicted, Glenn Beck loves this, and says it is EXACTLY Obama's budget.

And the sheep who listen to the likes of Glenn Beck won't ever once stop to consider why the Democrats would have voted against their own budget proposal.

[RandFan]

Originally Posted by hgc

On Morning Joe this morning, they were going on about how there's something terribly wrong with this president because his budget went down 99-0 in the Senate. I know that Joe and the others understand that this was a political kabuki, but they simply didn't provide that context. Disappointing.

I gave up trying to figure that show out. Drove me nuts. I like Joe and Mika but I think I think they lack consistency when it comes to reasoning. Even some of the issues I agree with them on I thought were argued poorly or their points irrelevant. But then sometimes they could take a controversial position and make great points and arguments. I prefer really bad or fairly consistent and moderately good. I've no illusions as to great.

[joobie]

Originally Posted by mhaze

Nope, quite and not end of story.

First, if and to what extent it is a "gimmick", that assertion being unproven by you or your two links, said "gimmick" could only exist in the continued absence of the Bamster's budget being actually brought forth by Democrats.

And they know it'd lose, and that's why they have not done that. Thus the door is open for the Republicans to bring it up for a vote.

Showing up the incompentance of the Bamster and cronies. But you could be partly right, in that that incompetance wasn't in dispute?

if you want to be shoved into the box with people stupid enough to believe the headline, ok, have it your way.