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Old 1st July 2012, 01:28 PM   #1
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POkemon is EVILLLLL!!!!!!! SATAN!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHrExOM-ww

Okay.....I will tell you this right now, these sermons and the aggressive level of opposition to things like this are telling. They tell me that the people who run these religions, know deep down in their hearts it is all BULL FECES.

If Christianity was as they say the one and only true path, pokemon or anything else would not scare them. It would be so TRUE, there would be so much material real world evidence that no stupid CCG could take them down.

Look at other religions and cults, why does Scientology oppose psychiatry? Because they can prove that it is a LOAD OF CRAP. They want people spending money in expensive auditing and Dianetics books on real tested therapy. They will go out of their way to scare their followers into not going to them. They make claims of ABUSES and TORTURE by psychiatrists.

Let's face it this is just a business that needs cash paying customers. They do not want Pokemon, Harry Potter or the Super Mario Bros taking that money away from them, so their impotent old men who run it can live high on the hog. So they say it is the work of SATAN.

Oh really....

Here are just a list of things the Vatican said was satanic

Automobiles
Jazz
Rock Music
Contraception
The Smallpox vaccine

and many other things.

If that was the work of satan, He has done more for humanity than the God or any of his servants ever have. The Smallpox vax, the one that eradicated one of the most nasty viruses from the earth. SAVED the lives of millions, work of the Devil. The same Devil the church says hates HUMANITY.

WOW they are so full of ****.

These tactics are born out of TRUE DESPERATE FEAR, if their faith was TRUE UNDENIABLE and AUTHORITATIVE. They would be giving off confidence not fear. They should not be afraid of Pikachu taking them down. It makes me wonder of the people who run these organizations really believe in it, only care about getting as many people to send them money.
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Old 1st July 2012, 01:29 PM   #2
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Yeah.
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Old 1st July 2012, 09:53 PM   #3
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Pokemon encourages dog and cock fighting.
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Old 1st July 2012, 10:22 PM   #4
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When I was a bit younger Heavy Metal was devil music and had satanic messages if you played the records backwards. I always wondered who the hell was it that thought "hey if we play this record backwards we might hear satanic messages"
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Pokemon teaches you how to use supernatural powers against your enemies? Hmm, sounds familiar...
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Old 1st July 2012, 11:08 PM   #7
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I remember when dungeons and dragons was the devil snd kids were being molested by satanic cults. Wait... Turns out kids were getting abused bt priests, teachers and coaches. These orgs are bs and they need an enemy for unite the flock or distract them.
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Old 1st July 2012, 11:24 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by keale View Post
When I was a bit younger Heavy Metal was devil music and had satanic messages if you played the records backwards. I always wondered who the hell was it that thought "hey if we play this record backwards we might hear satanic messages"
Tipper Gore.


Which tells you a lot more about her mind than it does about Metal.
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Old 2nd July 2012, 03:28 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by keale View Post
When I was a bit younger Heavy Metal was devil music and had satanic messages if you played the records backwards. I always wondered who the hell was it that thought "hey if we play this record backwards we might hear satanic messages"
I was terrified of listening to metal for a while as a kid because of this. When I was 9 or 10 at church camp they told us Metallica did this, and I would actually start to experience depression and the beginning of a panic attack when one of their videos would come on,.... it's so silly now thinking back on it.

The youth minister also told us Ozzy threw live puppies into his crowd to be torn apart, and he would have everyone attending his concert spit into a bucket as they entered the auditorium, which he would later drink from on stage.
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Old 2nd July 2012, 03:33 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by Halfcentaur View Post
I was terrified of listening to metal for a while as a kid because of this. When I was 9 or 10 at church camp they told us Metallica did this, and I would actually start to experience depression and the beginning of a panic attack when one of their videos would come on,.... it's so silly now thinking back on it.

The youth minister also told us Ozzy threw live puppies into his crowd to be torn apart, and he would have everyone attending his concert spit into a bucket as they entered the auditorium, which he would later drink from on stage.
Ozzy is sooooo metal. Deathklok metal.
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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay View Post
Pokemon teaches you how to use supernatural powers against your enemies? Hmm, sounds familiar...
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Originally Posted by Warrior1461 View Post
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Here are just a list of things the Vatican said was satanic

Automobile ...
The Smallpox vaccine...
I'm curious about these two. You wouldn't have a link would you?
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Old 2nd July 2012, 05:18 AM   #13
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Here's another Christian point of view:

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Worried parents may think the Pokémon kiddie-card craze is the work of the devil, but the pope has reportedly decided the game is good for children.

The Vatican gave its blessing to the game just as its popularity is soaring in Italy, where "Pokémon: The First Movie" opens this week, the Times of London reported yesterday.

The trading-card and computer game is "full of inventive imagination," said Sat2000, a satellite TV station run by the Vatican.

The game did not have "any harmful moral side effects" and was based on "ties of intense friendship," the station said.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/item_yL...bH7rk6UcsN91gL
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Old 2nd July 2012, 05:43 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Warrior1461 View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHrExOM-ww

Okay.....I will tell you this right now, these sermons and the aggressive level of opposition to things like this are telling. They tell me that the people who run these religions, know deep down in their hearts it is all BULL FECES.

If Christianity was as they say the one and only true path, pokemon or anything else would not scare them. It would be so TRUE, there would be so much material real world evidence that no stupid CCG could take them down.

Look at other religions and cults, why does Scientology oppose psychiatry? Because they can prove that it is a LOAD OF CRAP. They want people spending money in expensive auditing and Dianetics books on real tested therapy. They will go out of their way to scare their followers into not going to them. They make claims of ABUSES and TORTURE by psychiatrists.

Let's face it this is just a business that needs cash paying customers. They do not want Pokemon, Harry Potter or the Super Mario Bros taking that money away from them, so their impotent old men who run it can live high on the hog. So they say it is the work of SATAN.

Oh really....

Here are just a list of things the Vatican said was satanic

Automobiles
Jazz
Rock Music
Contraception
The Smallpox vaccine

and many other things.

If that was the work of satan, He has done more for humanity than the God or any of his servants ever have. The Smallpox vax, the one that eradicated one of the most nasty viruses from the earth. SAVED the lives of millions, work of the Devil. The same Devil the church says hates HUMANITY.

WOW they are so full of ****.

These tactics are born out of TRUE DESPERATE FEAR, if their faith was TRUE UNDENIABLE and AUTHORITATIVE. They would be giving off confidence not fear. They should not be afraid of Pikachu taking them down. It makes me wonder of the people who run these organizations really believe in it, only care about getting as many people to send them money.
1) Organized religion, especially in the Arbahamic branch of things has long suffered from control through fear issues, some might argue to the point of corrupting the original intent of the faith's message.

2) Scientology, while I agree that much of psychiatry can be refuted, the group itself is a proven abusive cult and nothing more so bad, bad example and if your intent to push that crap here others have tried and gotten their derrieres handed to them.

3) Pikachu is lame on its own merits, imo.
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Old 2nd July 2012, 05:49 AM   #15
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can someone link me to where and when the Vatican said that automobiles were satanic?

Also, in what way did "the vatican" say this? Did they issue a papal bull?
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I'm curious about these two. You wouldn't have a link would you?
I am aware of widespread opposition to vaccination by clergy of all of the christian denominations, but I don't think the guy in a funny hat ever proclaimed that it was wrong.
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I am aware of widespread opposition to vaccination by clergy of all of the christian denominations, but I don't think the guy in a funny hat ever proclaimed that it was wrong.
Pope Leo XII did in 1829:
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Whoever allows himself to be vaccinated ceases to be a child of God. Smallpox is a judgement from God : thus vaccination is an affront to Heaven
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I remember when dungeons and dragons was the devil snd kids were being molested by satanic cults. Wait... Turns out kids were getting abused bt priests, teachers and coaches. These orgs are bs and they need an enemy for unite the flock or distract them.
1982 movie starring Tom Hanks, "Mazes and Monsters".

That promoted an awful lot of hysteria about playing D&D at the time. Supposedly it was an evil satanic game, go figure.
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Old 2nd July 2012, 09:03 PM   #19
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"Whoever allows himself to be vaccinated ceases to be a child of God. Smallpox is a judgement from God : thus vaccination is an affront to Heaven"

That's because diseases are his weapon against us, so when you get vaxed, you protect yourself against GOD.

If vaccines are the work of Satan, it turns out He is the one on our side all along.

People get real diseases are not a punishment from the god or gods. They do not exist. Diseases are caused by viruses, bacteria and parasites that have no value system. They just care about finding a warm body to incubate in. HPV vax will not turn your daughter into a slut. cervical cancer is not caused by sexual activity.
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Originally Posted by Lamuella View Post
can someone link me to where and when the Vatican said that automobiles were satanic?

Also, in what way did "the vatican" say this? Did they issue a papal bull?
I think the poster was referring to this:

Guidelines for the Pastoral Care of the Road

It's tl;dr and I'm not claiming it says cars are satanic.
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Pokemon encourages dog and cock fighting.
About as much as it encourages storing large livestock in hand-sized hollow balls.
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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay View Post
I think the poster was referring to this:

Guidelines for the Pastoral Care of the Road

It's tl;dr and I'm not claiming it says cars are satanic.
wow, if this is the source of the claim that the vatican said cars were satanic, then the claim is abject nonsense. This is basically a document saying that car drivers should be careful for pedestrians and other road users (with a weird second part saying not to pick up prostitutes).
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If Christianity was as they say the one and only true path, pokemon or anything else would not scare them. It would be so TRUE, there would be so much material real world evidence that no stupid CCG could take them down.
You aren't much of a student of history. Protocols of the elders of zion doesn't have any truth to it but it has caused a lot of jews a lot of problems over the years.

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Look at other religions and cults, why does Scientology oppose psychiatry? Because they can prove that it is a LOAD OF CRAP.

Nope. There are various groups that can take issues with Scientology. The anti-psychiatry thing derivies from Ron having issues.


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Let's face it this is just a business that needs cash paying customers. They do not want Pokemon, Harry Potter or the Super Mario Bros taking that money away from them, so their impotent old men who run it can live high on the hog. So they say it is the work of SATAN.
Unlikely. There isn't much of a crossover in their respective markets. The issue is more one of knee jerk conservatism.
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geni, there are many different brands of Christianity, there is a specific brand that is afraid of losing followers, this anti-pokemon stuff is a symptom of this fear. We see it with the JW's the FLDS and such. They want complete and total loyality to their faith and more of their money.
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I live in an extremely conservative Xtian community and am surrounded by people who are afraid to celebrate halloween, who won't let their kids play skylanders with my kids, read Harry Potter, or listen to any music that isn't Christian. I am friends with some of these moms and their fear seems real enough. Their worry is obviously with regard to protecting their kids from dark or satanic values or influences. I don't see why these same concerns wouldn't be reflected at the level of the church leaders.
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ExMinister, leader's concerns are about keeping their flock loyal and sending them money. Money spent on skylanders and harry potter is not money spent on them.

It also reeks of desperation from the losing side. As science takes over more and more, and pop culture becomes more and more prevalent it gets harder for them to keep cash paying followers. Look at fundamentalist Islam, one of their tenets is the banning of all western ideas and culture, music, tv etc.

Because we import our pop culture everywhere, there are girls that want to dress up as American Teens, what they think is one, it scared the traditionalists off as it threatens their power base.

Penn Jillette said it I mentioned it many times before. It is getting harder and harder to cloister your children from the outside world and ideas. Expect to see if not already anti-internet sermons, tracts and pamphlets coming from these people.
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Originally Posted by Ryokan View Post
"...in Italy, where "Pokémon: The First Movie" opens this week,[/url]
Since apparently it is still the Late 90s in Italy, can we get them to do something about 9-11?
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