The date of the second coming is May 27, 2012 - Ronald Wienland - Page 4

Lord Emsworth · 28th May 2012, 05:04 AM

OK, who is next?

pakeha · 28th May 2012, 05:09 AM

Yeah, they're like Pringles or M&Ms ...

Originally Posted by psionl0

Now it's official. It is no longer the 27th of May 2012 anywhere in the world. Needless to say, yet another doomsday prediction fails to materialize.

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Yes. And yes again.
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Elypsis44 · 28th May 2012, 01:07 PM

Time to update the sign. Again.

MattusMaximus · 28th May 2012, 02:05 PM

I overslept today. Did I miss the end of the world?

Denver · 28th May 2012, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by MattusMaximus

I overslept today. Did I miss the end of the world?

I'm afraid so. But I'm sure there will be another one soon.

Good Lt · 28th May 2012, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Elypsis44

Time to update the sign. Again.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/..._2914876_n.jpg

Oh, come on. The rapture has happened far mor times than that!

Elypsis44 · 28th May 2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Good Lt

Oh, come on. The rapture has happened far mor times than that!

Maybe they charge by the letter?

dafydd · 28th May 2012, 06:35 PM

I sent an email to http://www.the-end.com/ and received this reply.

Kopji · 28th May 2012, 09:22 PM

http://www.ronaldweinland.com/

Quote:

I am sorry, what I taught as the truth was a lie. Go and live your lives without the burden of accepting me as a false guide for your life.

Yeah just kidding he doesn't say that.

psionl0 · 28th May 2012, 10:36 PM

Ronald Weinland hasn't posted anything on his website since the "apocalypse".

In his most recent interview http://www.cog-pkg.org/audio/downloa..._Interview.mp3, the following exchange takes place at 37.30:

Interviewer: "Just a logical next question, what happens if He doesn't come back on that date?"
Weinland: "Well then, then, you know, I won't have a job to do in that regard anymore. It will come to prove it wasn't, it wasn't true, that my job as a prophet wasn't true in the sense of the timing and everything else that's involved in, um, you know it just, that's what it is."

(Just in case he tries to revive his "prophecy").

devnull · 28th May 2012, 10:50 PM

If only his bible gave him some form of guidance about false prophets.......

devnull · 28th May 2012, 10:52 PM

Oh.... wait.

Deuteronomy 20: "But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.”

Oh....dear.....

Brian-M · 29th May 2012, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by Elypsis44

Time to update the sign. Again.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/..._2914876_n.jpg

Do you know where I can find a complete list of all known end-of-the-world prophecies?

Agatha · 29th May 2012, 03:14 AM

There's this one: http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm

But this is a bit more comprehensive: http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

I noticed that both of Failed Prophet Ron's books are free for kindle on his website, so I downloaded them. Firstly, they are a great cure for insomnia, the writing style is so turgid and laboured. Secondly, his hatred for Catholicism and Europe is clearly evident.

The basic theme of the books is that most people worship in the wrong way (but some are more wrong than others). The prophetic parts of the books are retrofitting bits of Revelation to recent events, and extrapolating TEOTWAWKI from that. He's quite looking forward to Global ThermoNuclear War!!!, as this will be a vindication that worshipping on a Sunday is the biggest sin of all. I'll read a bit more if I can't sleep tonight, but I think I have the gist of them now.

pakeha · 29th May 2012, 06:00 AM

I'm so impressed by your dedication to expanding the boundaries of our knowlege, Agatha.

Flo · 29th May 2012, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by Agatha

There's this one: http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm

But this is a bit more comprehensive: http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

I noticed that both of Failed Prophet Ron's books are free for kindle on his website, so I downloaded them. Firstly, they are a great cure for insomnia, the writing style is so turgid and laboured. Secondly, his hatred for Catholicism and Europe is clearly evident.

I know the type. Another one who got stiffed by a rude waiter in a brasserie in front of Notre Dame de Paris ..

Craig4 · 29th May 2012, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Agatha

There's this one: http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm

But this is a bit more comprehensive: http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

I noticed that both of Failed Prophet Ron's books are free for kindle on his website, so I downloaded them. Firstly, they are a great cure for insomnia, the writing style is so turgid and laboured. Secondly, his hatred for Catholicism and Europe is clearly evident.

The basic theme of the books is that most people worship in the wrong way (but some are more wrong than others). The prophetic parts of the books are retrofitting bits of Revelation to recent events, and extrapolating TEOTWAWKI from that. He's quite looking forward to Global ThermoNuclear War!!!, as this will be a vindication that worshipping on a Sunday is the biggest sin of all. I'll read a bit more if I can't sleep tonight, but I think I have the gist of them now.

Though I may come to regret this, how would a nuclear war vindicate that worshiping on Sunday is a sin?

Beerina · 29th May 2012, 12:15 PM

Shoot, I missed it! What happened? Did we die?

I'm in Hell, now. I can tell. I can feel it.

MattusMaximus · 29th May 2012, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by dafydd

I sent an email to http://www.the-end.com/ and received this reply.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...427e9733d6.jpg

That's a rather round-about way of putting one's finger's in one's ears and going "La-la-la-la-la! I can't hear you! La-la-la-la-la!"

MattusMaximus · 29th May 2012, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Though I may come to regret this, how would a nuclear war vindicate that worshiping on Sunday is a sin?

It's a Seventh Day Adventist thing. They basically believe that going to church on Sunday is a one-way ticket to hell.

Agatha · 30th May 2012, 04:46 AM

Indeed, that is the thrust of his argument. I've now ploughed through both books; he is convinced that Revelation predicts the formation and schisms in the Seventh Day Adventist Movement, and that the first four of the Seven Seals refer to incidents within the church. The later Seals refer to events in the wider world, and only those who repent and join his particular sect of Seventh Day Adventism will be spared.

Interestingly he hasn't edited the end of 2008 - God's Final Witness, which ends with:

Quote:

By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a world power, or it will have begun its collapse and no longer exist as an independent nation within six months after that time. There is a marginal, six-month window of time that God has not yet revealed concerning this specific moment of time. This will be revealed some time soon after the distribution of this book begins [in Autumn 2006].

Douze points for honesty, but nil points for accuracy.

Through some dodgy etymology he contends that Great Britain is the home to one of the 12 tribes of Israel, and that the European Union (which he seems to think doesn't include Britain) is the Antichrist; and that Catholicism is, or will be, imposed on the whole of Europe as a state religion.

He sees the armies of the English speaking nations of the world being ranged against the 200 million strong armies of China and the East, and that they will be meeting for a one day battle at Megiddo, where God will halt the battle and Christ will return, and only the members of his church will be saved, and that will happen in ~~2008~~ ~~2010~~ ~~26/27 May 2012~~ fairly soon.

There's more, about false prophets, modern day Elijahs, the witnesses who will be dead in the streets of Jerusalem and so on. It's the usual apocalyptic nonsense, with a side order of Seventh Day Adventism. He's not updated his website with excuses yet, but I have little doubt that he'll be back soon, predicting a new date with all the fervour of the preceding dates, and he'll be just as wrong.

Joecool · 30th May 2012, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by psionl0

For those who came in late, Ronald Wienland claims to be one of the two prophets "dressed in sack cloths" that is mentioned in the book of revelations (his wife is the other one). He has written books and made blogs explaining that these are the "end-times" (again).

In spite of the fact that he has not gotten a single prediction right these past few years, he is sticking to his guns. In fact, in his latest BLOG he has gone for broke and predicted that Jesus will return on May 27, 2012. His financial activities are under investigation so that would turn out to be a very convenient date for him. This is his first RADIO INTERVIEW in nearly 3 years.

It will be interesting to hear what excuses he comes up with on May 28.

So what happens now on May 30th?

Craig4 · 30th May 2012, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by MattusMaximus

It's a Seventh Day Adventist thing. They basically believe that going to church on Sunday is a one-way ticket to hell.

No, I get that part. I'm just wondering what about this going to church on Sunday thing would cause an order to launch nuclear weapons.

Baloney · 30th May 2012, 02:18 PM

Weesa alla died?

psionl0 · 30th May 2012, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Joecool

So what happens now on May 30th?

Interestingly enough, this is the date of Ronald Weinland's latest post on http://www.ronaldweinland.com/.

I haven't studied it in detail yet but it doesn't look like he is saying that his "job as a prophet wasn't true".

psionl0 · 30th May 2012, 08:17 PM

So how does Ronald Weinland account for the apparent failure of his prophecy in http://www.ronaldweinland.com?

Originally Posted by Ronald Weinland

. . . .
May 27th has come and gone, so how can I say this is still the day of Christ’s return? The answer is a matter of God’s revelation which is spiritual in nature, but having a definite physical outcome. It is prophetic. I did not know that when I stated this was the “day” of Christ’s coming. I viewed it in a physical manner until God revealed that it was spiritual.
. . . .
This “Day of the Lord” is a prophetic day that has a duration of a full year in its fulfillment. It began on Pentecost of 2012 and it will end on Pentecost of 2013. God has revealed that May 27, 2012 was the “prophetic day” for the return of His Son as King of kings. It will take one year to become fulfilled.
. . . .

Baloney · 30th May 2012, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by psionl0

So how does Ronald Weinland account for the apparent failure of his prophecy in http://www.ronaldweinland.com?

Yeah, he seems to have also failed to realize that's the same baloney Camping tried to pull. I'm guessing, though, that most of Weinland's followers aren't accustomed to looking for contradictory insights.

Darth Rotor · 30th May 2012, 08:37 PM

Well, the Mayans are looking pretty smug about now ...

Björn Toulouse · 31st May 2012, 04:49 AM

Quote:

May 27th has come and gone, so how can I say this is still the day of Christ’s return? The answer is a matter of God’s revelation which is spiritual in nature, but having a definite physical outcome. It is prophetic. I did not know that when I stated this was the “day” of Christ’s coming. I viewed it in a physical manner until God revealed that it was spiritual.

That's funny. All of us here knew it wasn't going to happen in a physical manner while the man of god did not.

Quote:

This “Day of the Lord” is a prophetic day that has a duration of a full year in its fulfillment. It began on Pentecost of 2012 and it will end on Pentecost of 2013. God has revealed that May 27, 2012 was the “prophetic day” for the return of His Son as King of kings. It will take one year to become fulfilled.

Please tell me he is not trying to predict the "physical" return for next year. Is that what he is saying?

The only thing predictable here is the fallback position all of these failed prophets rely upon - some variation of the old " it happened in the spirit" excuse.

Quote:

Now that the job of two witnesses is complete, there is one final phase of God’s work to be accomplished before His Son literally returns as King of kings. Then how is it that one can say May 27th is the “day” of His coming and still be true? The answer is exciting and inspiring to those who believe God, and it is nonsense to those who do not believe God. It is just that simple!

You got that part right!

psionl0 · 31st May 2012, 05:17 AM

Quote:

This “Day of the Lord” is a prophetic day that has a duration of a full year in its fulfillment.

Originally Posted by Matthew 24:27

For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

That's a mighty slow bolt of lightning.

zeggman · 5th June 2012, 06:26 AM

So this is hell.

My beer's warm.

Mojo · 5th June 2012, 07:11 AM

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Steve · 5th June 2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by zeggman

So this is hell.

My beer's warm.

Buy a fridge!

Marduk · 5th June 2012, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Agatha

Through some dodgy etymology he contends that Great Britain is the home to one of the 12 tribes of Israel, .

ya, thesedays theyre called "Windsor"

Björn Toulouse · 30th July 2012, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Björn Toulouse

Please tell me he is not trying to predict the "physical" return for next year. Is that what he is saying?

Apparently, that is what he is saying.

Quote:

Yes, the “Day of the Lord” is a year in actual length. May 27, 2012, was the beginning of the “Day of the Lord” when Jesus Christ will return on the final day of Pentecost 2013.

Yawn......

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28th May 2012, 02:05 PM	#124
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28th May 2012, 02:11 PM	#125
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28th May 2012, 06:01 PM	#126
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28th May 2012, 06:19 PM	#127
Elypsis44 Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,439	Originally Posted by Good Lt Oh, come on. The rapture has happened far mor times than that! Maybe they charge by the letter?
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28th May 2012, 05:04 AM	#121
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28th May 2012, 09:22 PM	#129
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28th May 2012, 10:36 PM	#130
psionl0 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°58'S 115°57'E Posts: 4,789	Ronald Weinland hasn't posted anything on his website since the "apocalypse". In his most recent interview http://www.cog-pkg.org/audio/downloa..._Interview.mp3, the following exchange takes place at 37.30: Interviewer: "Just a logical next question, what happens if He doesn't come back on that date?" Weinland: "Well then, then, you know, I won't have a job to do in that regard anymore. It will come to prove it wasn't, it wasn't true, that my job as a prophet wasn't true in the sense of the timing and everything else that's involved in, um, you know it just, that's what it is." (Just in case he tries to revive his "prophecy").

28th May 2012, 10:50 PM	#131
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28th May 2012, 10:52 PM	#132
devnull Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,533	Oh.... wait. Deuteronomy 20: "But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.” Oh....dear.....
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29th May 2012, 01:48 AM	#133
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29th May 2012, 03:14 AM	#134
Agatha Winking at the Moon Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,226	There's this one: http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm But this is a bit more comprehensive: http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm I noticed that both of Failed Prophet Ron's books are free for kindle on his website, so I downloaded them. Firstly, they are a great cure for insomnia, the writing style is so turgid and laboured. Secondly, his hatred for Catholicism and Europe is clearly evident. The basic theme of the books is that most people worship in the wrong way (but some are more wrong than others). The prophetic parts of the books are retrofitting bits of Revelation to recent events, and extrapolating TEOTWAWKI from that. He's quite looking forward to Global ThermoNuclear War!!!, as this will be a vindication that worshipping on a Sunday is the biggest sin of all. I'll read a bit more if I can't sleep tonight, but I think I have the gist of them now.
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29th May 2012, 06:00 AM	#135
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29th May 2012, 06:32 AM	#136
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29th May 2012, 11:27 AM	#137
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by Agatha There's this one: http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm But this is a bit more comprehensive: http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm I noticed that both of Failed Prophet Ron's books are free for kindle on his website, so I downloaded them. Firstly, they are a great cure for insomnia, the writing style is so turgid and laboured. Secondly, his hatred for Catholicism and Europe is clearly evident. The basic theme of the books is that most people worship in the wrong way (but some are more wrong than others). The prophetic parts of the books are retrofitting bits of Revelation to recent events, and extrapolating TEOTWAWKI from that. He's quite looking forward to Global ThermoNuclear War!!!, as this will be a vindication that worshipping on a Sunday is the biggest sin of all. I'll read a bit more if I can't sleep tonight, but I think I have the gist of them now. Though I may come to regret this, how would a nuclear war vindicate that worshiping on Sunday is a sin?
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29th May 2012, 12:15 PM	#138
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29th May 2012, 03:48 PM	#140
MattusMaximus Intellectual Gladiator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the midst of a vast, beautiful & uncaring universe Posts: 14,175	Originally Posted by Craig4 Though I may come to regret this, how would a nuclear war vindicate that worshiping on Sunday is a sin? It's a Seventh Day Adventist thing. They basically believe that going to church on Sunday is a one-way ticket to hell.
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30th May 2012, 04:46 AM	#141
Agatha Winking at the Moon Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 4,226	Indeed, that is the thrust of his argument. I've now ploughed through both books; he is convinced that Revelation predicts the formation and schisms in the Seventh Day Adventist Movement, and that the first four of the Seven Seals refer to incidents within the church. The later Seals refer to events in the wider world, and only those who repent and join his particular sect of Seventh Day Adventism will be spared. Interestingly he hasn't edited the end of 2008 - God's Final Witness, which ends with: Quote: By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a world power, or it will have begun its collapse and no longer exist as an independent nation within six months after that time. There is a marginal, six-month window of time that God has not yet revealed concerning this specific moment of time. This will be revealed some time soon after the distribution of this book begins [in Autumn 2006]. Douze points for honesty, but nil points for accuracy. Through some dodgy etymology he contends that Great Britain is the home to one of the 12 tribes of Israel, and that the European Union (which he seems to think doesn't include Britain) is the Antichrist; and that Catholicism is, or will be, imposed on the whole of Europe as a state religion. He sees the armies of the English speaking nations of the world being ranged against the 200 million strong armies of China and the East, and that they will be meeting for a one day battle at Megiddo, where God will halt the battle and Christ will return, and only the members of his church will be saved, and that will happen in ~~2008~~ ~~2010~~ ~~26/27 May 2012~~ fairly soon. There's more, about false prophets, modern day Elijahs, the witnesses who will be dead in the streets of Jerusalem and so on. It's the usual apocalyptic nonsense, with a side order of Seventh Day Adventism. He's not updated his website with excuses yet, but I have little doubt that he'll be back soon, predicting a new date with all the fervour of the preceding dates, and he'll be just as wrong.
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30th May 2012, 12:37 PM	#142
Joecool Muse Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Hawaii Posts: 945	Originally Posted by psionl0 For those who came in late, Ronald Wienland claims to be one of the two prophets "dressed in sack cloths" that is mentioned in the book of revelations (his wife is the other one). He has written books and made blogs explaining that these are the "end-times" (again). In spite of the fact that he has not gotten a single prediction right these past few years, he is sticking to his guns. In fact, in his latest BLOG he has gone for broke and predicted that Jesus will return on May 27, 2012. His financial activities are under investigation so that would turn out to be a very convenient date for him. This is his first RADIO INTERVIEW in nearly 3 years. It will be interesting to hear what excuses he comes up with on May 28. So what happens now on May 30th?

30th May 2012, 12:57 PM	#143
Craig4 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5,363	Originally Posted by MattusMaximus It's a Seventh Day Adventist thing. They basically believe that going to church on Sunday is a one-way ticket to hell. No, I get that part. I'm just wondering what about this going to church on Sunday thing would cause an order to launch nuclear weapons.
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30th May 2012, 02:18 PM	#144
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30th May 2012, 05:36 PM	#145
psionl0 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°58'S 115°57'E Posts: 4,789	Originally Posted by Joecool So what happens now on May 30th? Interestingly enough, this is the date of Ronald Weinland's latest post on http://www.ronaldweinland.com/. I haven't studied it in detail yet but it doesn't look like he is saying that his "job as a prophet wasn't true".

30th May 2012, 08:17 PM	#146
psionl0 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°58'S 115°57'E Posts: 4,789	So how does Ronald Weinland account for the apparent failure of his prophecy in http://www.ronaldweinland.com? Originally Posted by Ronald Weinland . . . . May 27th has come and gone, so how can I say this is still the day of Christ’s return? The answer is a matter of God’s revelation which is spiritual in nature, but having a definite physical outcome. It is prophetic. I did not know that when I stated this was the “day” of Christ’s coming. I viewed it in a physical manner until God revealed that it was spiritual. . . . . This “Day of the Lord” is a prophetic day that has a duration of a full year in its fulfillment. It began on Pentecost of 2012 and it will end on Pentecost of 2013. God has revealed that May 27, 2012 was the “prophetic day” for the return of His Son as King of kings. It will take one year to become fulfilled. . . . .

30th May 2012, 08:29 PM	#147
Baloney Muse Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: America! (F, yeah!) Posts: 666	Originally Posted by psionl0 So how does Ronald Weinland account for the apparent failure of his prophecy in http://www.ronaldweinland.com? Yeah, he seems to have also failed to realize that's the same baloney Camping tried to pull. I'm guessing, though, that most of Weinland's followers aren't accustomed to looking for contradictory insights.
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30th May 2012, 08:37 PM	#148
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,279	Well, the Mayans are looking pretty smug about now ...
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31st May 2012, 04:49 AM	#149
Björn Toulouse Cavitus Rectum Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: miles from Nowhere Posts: 1,406	Quote: May 27th has come and gone, so how can I say this is still the day of Christ’s return? The answer is a matter of God’s revelation which is spiritual in nature, but having a definite physical outcome. It is prophetic. I did not know that when I stated this was the “day” of Christ’s coming. I viewed it in a physical manner until God revealed that it was spiritual. That's funny. All of us here knew it wasn't going to happen in a physical manner while the man of god did not. Quote: This “Day of the Lord” is a prophetic day that has a duration of a full year in its fulfillment. It began on Pentecost of 2012 and it will end on Pentecost of 2013. God has revealed that May 27, 2012 was the “prophetic day” for the return of His Son as King of kings. It will take one year to become fulfilled. Please tell me he is not trying to predict the "physical" return for next year. Is that what he is saying? The only thing predictable here is the fallback position all of these failed prophets rely upon - some variation of the old " it happened in the spirit" excuse. Quote: Now that the job of two witnesses is complete, there is one final phase of God’s work to be accomplished before His Son literally returns as King of kings. Then how is it that one can say May 27th is the “day” of His coming and still be true? The answer is exciting and inspiring to those who believe God, and it is nonsense to those who do not believe God. It is just that simple! You got that part right!
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31st May 2012, 05:17 AM	#150
psionl0 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 31°58'S 115°57'E Posts: 4,789	Quote: This “Day of the Lord” is a prophetic day that has a duration of a full year in its fulfillment. Originally Posted by Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. That's a mighty slow bolt of lightning.

5th June 2012, 06:26 AM	#151
zeggman Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,772	So this is hell. My beer's warm.
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5th June 2012, 08:29 AM	#153
Steve Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2005 Location: Surrey BC Posts: 1,336	Originally Posted by zeggman So this is hell. My beer's warm. Buy a fridge!
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5th June 2012, 08:35 AM	#154
Marduk Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Newbury, Berkshire Posts: 10,242	Originally Posted by Agatha Through some dodgy etymology he contends that Great Britain is the home to one of the 12 tribes of Israel, . ya, thesedays theyre called "Windsor"

30th July 2012, 09:26 PM	#155
Björn Toulouse Cavitus Rectum Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: miles from Nowhere Posts: 1,406	Originally Posted by Björn Toulouse Please tell me he is not trying to predict the "physical" return for next year. Is that what he is saying? Apparently, that is what he is saying. Quote: Yes, the “Day of the Lord” is a year in actual length. May 27, 2012, was the beginning of the “Day of the Lord” when Jesus Christ will return on the final day of Pentecost 2013. Yawn......
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