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Thinker
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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"Authorized" Atheist Symbol
I was reading an article about how just recently a soldier who died last year ago finally had his religious symbol put on his marker - the Wiccan pentacle.
There was a link on that page referencing that the Pentagon has allowed many non-Christan symbols to be represented on such markers...to include Atheists. I wasn't aware that we had a symbol, but if you go HERE we're number 16. It's an "A" surrounded by two electron paths like in an atom model. Does that make us helium?? |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Feb 2007
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But I thought there were no atheists in foxholes?
I would rather not have a symbol at all, I think having a symbol feeds into people's beliefs that we're just another sect. |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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"Robbing a bank is no crime compared to owning one" - Bertolt Brecht "Let it go and come to bed already, El Greco" - MoeFaux
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Metasyntactic Variable
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Nothing for FSM and Jedi? Someone should complain.
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Belief is the subjective acceptance of a (valid or invalid) concept, opinion, or theory; Faith is the unreasoned belief in improvable things; and Knowledge is the reasoned belief in provable things. Belief itself proves nothing.
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Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2005
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It looks like the logo for the Springfield Isotopes.
I prefer mine were left blank. |
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Being offended by someone questioning your beliefs is a sign that you should be questioning them. In the beginning there was nothing. And the Lord said "Let There Be Light!" And still there was nothing, but at least now you could see it. |
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Thinker
Join Date: Mar 2007
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I'm trying to figure out why the Christian Science(97) and Muslim 5 pointed star(98) symbols are not shown on a government website due to copyright reasons. Why have a symbol if you can't show people what it is?
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Belief is the subjective acceptance of a (valid or invalid) concept, opinion, or theory; Faith is the unreasoned belief in improvable things; and Knowledge is the reasoned belief in provable things. Belief itself proves nothing.
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Dental Floss Tycoon
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Master Poster
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Tucson, Arizona
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I'd like mine to be a universally recognized symbol; something pleasant, but bold.
(All I can think of is a sausage.) |
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Dental Floss Tycoon
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It looks just like a Telefunken U47... You'll love it. |
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Master Poster
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Smelling fishy
Join Date: May 2004
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Philosopher
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Being offended by someone questioning your beliefs is a sign that you should be questioning them. In the beginning there was nothing. And the Lord said "Let There Be Light!" And still there was nothing, but at least now you could see it. |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jul 2006
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"Reality is what's left when you cease to believe." Philip K. Dick |
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: May 2007
Location: scotland uk
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I dont think atheists should have a symbol. I mean how can you symbolise that you dont believe in god. Who decided on the symbol anyway?
If there was to be one it should be a picture of Victor Meldrew, "I dont believe it"
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Smelling fishy
Join Date: May 2004
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Wait a minute... isn't the symbol described the logo of American Atheists, a political group? Wouldn't the use of a political symbol as a religious symbol in a federal cemetary violate separation? Someone would certainly raise a stink if the National Cathedral started sporting elephant banners all of a sudden.
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Illuminator
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Muskego, WI.
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I always thought the "atom" symbol was sort of silly. Is it the symbol for atheism, or the Church of George Jetson?
We're atheists for ---- sake. We don't need any stinking symbols. |
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Hellmouth Beastie
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wherever misfortune has me
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I guess if I had to choose a symbol, it would be "The Finger"
(view of hand from intended party's POV), as an expression saying F religion and F all your silly symbols that are so important to you. Oh, while checking out the list of symbols from the link in the OP, I saw that there was no scientology symbol. Don't they have their own Hubbard created symbol to further dupe the folks that fall for this ridiculous nonsense. On a side note: I personally think Scientology is the most absurd religion ever thought up in the human mind. I often ask myself if I purposely wanted to create the most unbelievable religion, and had to put lots of details in it, could I even think of something more absurd than what L. Ron has fantasized in his mind? I dunno. Other that including 2 headed shaved monkeys that fly, and telling people that in order to reach god's ears they needed to simply repeat, out loud, as loud as they could, the following phrase 5X, as fast as they could manage to say it: OH WATTA GOO SIAM, I don't think I could do something as insane as what L. Ron did, and STILL have thousands of people worldwide ACTUALLY believe it. What really boggles my mind is the whole scientology "space opera", an explanation of the history of the universe and the actions that took place at various dates and times in its history. For those who aren't really knowledgable on the finely detailed stories that scientology professes concerning the history of the universe and the different alien civilizations that flourished in the past and caused some major problem, for a primer, I'd highly recommend the wiki section on the whole scientology "space opera" saga. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_o...logy_scripture I'd pay special attention to the section called: "Scientology's History Of The Universe" It literally will blow your mind. And please, when reading the bullet pointed chronological history of the universe, DO NOT pass up the chance to read the detailed events of each of this incidents in the early universe. Each bullet point states a date in time, or era in time, and says what occured at that time. They each have a link that'll bring you to another page to explain exactly what that situation entailed. For pure outlandishness, make special note of a few events and read further into them. You'll be flabbergasted, flumoxed, shaking your head back and forth saying "You GOTTA be kidding me, right" I mean, this IS a joke, no" But sadly they're not meant to be. Incidents to read further on are: Aircraft Door Goals - Bear Goals - Body Builder Incident - Heaven Implants Invisible Picture Goals - Obscene Dog Incident - Jack In The Box - R6 Implants Train Goals - and my all time favorite: Gorilla Goals. Here's the link to the wiki page that also lists (and briefly explains) these events: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inciden...#Key_Incidents One of the things I found to be the most hilarious aspect of scientology is when L. Ron is explaining all these events. Coincidently, I guess, some of these ET civilizations look, dress, speak, and use the same technologies of people from the 1940's and 1950's of earth's history. They have spaceships that look exactly like the aircraft at the time L. Ron concocted this fiasco. He also went to (I believe..if not, he at least "saw") one ET civilization that looked like the mirror image of 1940's (or 1950's) USA. They also dressed exactly the same and even had the exact same style of music.. I can go on forever about this, but I'll stop here. It's been a couple of years since I last did a complete reading of everything scientology is about, so my memory isn't that great on specific incidents (of the "incidents"). But I know I got lots of my info directly from the wiki sites on scientology, and after clicking just about every link from the first main scientology page, it brought me to other wiki pages that gave more detail, and then I clicked all those links, and so on. There's a TON of great, eye opening (to the uninitiated) info on scientology just on the wiki pages. It probably took me about a week to go through them all, but after I did, I REALLY knew what this was all about. Oh, your average scientologist isn't even made aware of MUCH of the info that's out there. Only as your progress up through the different scientology levels, known as Operating Thetan (OT l - OT VIII ...and even beyond) are you made aware of bits and pieces of this. And of course, it costs you lots of dough to move up each level. Sorry to go Off Topic. End of rant. |
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Dental Floss Tycoon
Join Date: Jun 2006
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The "Hoipolloi" eh? Are they related to the "Averageidiots"?
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Master Poster
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: vuori
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Here's my atheist symbol:
Sorry it's so big. I'm a little showy, I guess. |
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Hellmouth Beastie
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Illuminator
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Muse
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oregon
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I'm an agnostic, can I have a question mark?
And since we're talking about epitaphs, my favorite: "I told you I was sick!" Robert |
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A post by Alan Smithee
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: USAian is not a word
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Actually it's the VA that makes determinations about grave markers for federal cemetaries since they are the ones who run them.
I'm not sure how the AA symbol was chosen for atheists, but my guess would be a military atheist who was also an AA member pressed for it's usage. I've got a photo of grave near my dad's with the symbol on it, but I don't think I have it on my hard drive at work currently. |
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I am an American citizen who is part of American society and briefly served in the American armed forces. I use American dollars and pay taxes that support the American government. And yes, despite the editorial decison to change American politics to the nonsensical "USA politics" subforum, I follow and comment on American politics. |
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Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions
Join Date: Mar 2004
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"Great innovations should not be forced [by way of] slender majorities." - Thomas Jefferson The government should nationalize it! Socialized, single-payer video game development and sales now! More, cheaper, better games, right? Right? |
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We don't need no stinkin' BADGERS:
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Mad Mod Poet God
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Where's the Anglican's symbol? Or are they known by a different name?
More importantly: where the heck is the Flying Spaghetti Monster's symbol?! This is a clear insult to the followers of His Noodley Goodness... |
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Master Poster
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St.Helens, UK
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How about the Playboy bunny? It says we are not afraid to go against convention and we are here because of basic evolutionary instinct and not a divine power.
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Dental Floss Tycoon
Join Date: Jun 2006
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