TruthMove 2008 Declaration - Standards and Strategies for 9/11 Truth

boloboffin · 7th January 2008, 02:58 PM

Behold, the International Truth Movement's 2008 Declaration: Standards and Strategies for 9/11 Truth!

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We aim to foster reason and responsibility within the global movement for truth. We base this in the following values:

Awareness of public perception and the need for strategic and responsible promotion and presentation.
A commitment to building credibility and encouraging constructive alliances with the anti-war movement and other natural allies.
Adherence to the scientific method and journalistic standards, with a focus on facts, substance, and sources.
A dedication to rational, respectful, and nonviolent debate and activism. Fundamental respect in discourse with all individuals, including those within the government and military, journalists, and supposed “opponents.”
A faith in the honest democratic process and our ability to come to meaningful and actionable conclusions (truths).
Motivations based in compassion, justice, and truth.

Conversely, we seek to counteract and minimize:

Promotion of speculative and unsubstantiated claims.
Disruptive, divisive, diversionary, and aggressive behavior.
Damaging and marginalizing associations.
Organized and intentional sabotage.
Highly partisan representations of the movement.
Motivations based on ego, hatred, and belittlement.

We will engage others in the movement who break these guidelines with constructive dialog, raising awareness of these issues. Those who are unresponsive to reason and have a clear history of disruption, combativeness, or excessively poor judgment will not be engaged.

We recognize an important distinction between private speculation and public promotion. Speculation, hypothesis, and experimentation are the basis of the scientific method. However, the promotion of highly speculative claims is irresponsible and damaging to our credibility. Instead, verifiable fact-based research must be primary in our search for and promotion of the truth.

Lots more at the link, including the "Go ahead and believe this if you wanna but shaddup in public about it" list of unapproved CTs. See if your fav made the list!

jhunter1163 · 7th January 2008, 03:01 PM

Do they not see that the things they seek to minimize are the entire basis for their movement?

Brainache · 7th January 2008, 03:05 PM

How long before the guy who wrote that is accused of being a government shill trying to derail the Truth with subtle disinfo?

Gravy · 7th January 2008, 03:06 PM

TruthMove consists of two guys and a banner. The revolution will probably have to wait.

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Conversely, we seek to counteract and minimize:

Promotion of speculative and unsubstantiated claims.

Yeah. Check their 9/11 "11 Things You Should Know" list, all of which I corrected for them over a year ago. What douchebags.

When I saw them 6 months later and asked why all this false information was still on their flyers (although they agreed some of it was wrong), the leader, Jules, told me that they had already printed a lot up.

"Oh, so it's okay to hand out lies at Ground Zero if you have a lot of them."
"We're not talking to you."

JamesB · 7th January 2008, 03:06 PM

This cracks me up, they state this as a guideline:

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Avoid the divisive labeling of individuals and groups (i.e. MIHOP, LIHOP, Shill, planehugger, agent, etc.)

But then add this only two bullett points later:

Quote:

Be aware and vigilant concerning the presence of agent provocateurs within the movement.

We know the government shills are there, but be nice and don't call them that!

MIKILLINI · 7th January 2008, 03:07 PM

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#3. Adherence to the scientific method and journalistic standards, with a focus on facts, substance, and sources.

This should have been at the top of their list. I wonder why it isn't... hmm

T.A.M. · 7th January 2008, 03:09 PM

Awesome...

Quote:

We aim to foster reason and responsibility within the global movement for truth. We base this in the following values:

1. Awareness of public perception and the need for strategic and responsible promotion and presentation. (disown webster tarpley, Jim Fetzer, Judy Wood, and Kevin Barrett)
2. A commitment to building credibility and encouraging constructive alliances with the anti-war movement and other natural allies. (beg to be part of "real" movements)
3. Adherence to the scientific method and journalistic standards, with a focus on facts, substance, and sources. (dump all work by S.Jones, PFT, and Pentacon)
4. A dedication to rational, respectful, and nonviolent debate and activism. (seeya Mark Dice, Jackchit, Kevin Barrett, etc...) Fundamental respect in discourse with all individuals, including those within the government and military, journalists, and supposed “opponents.” (I guess no more "Young Angry Boy" attitude).
5. A faith in the honest democratic process and our ability to come to meaningful and actionable conclusions (truths). (So Ron Paul is not the only non NWO Shill running???)
6. Motivations based in compassion, justice, and truth. (As long as it fits into our skewed world view).

My comments in bolded italics for flavor...

TAM

Pardalis · 7th January 2008, 03:14 PM

This is where they wrote their new year Resolution.

LashL · 7th January 2008, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Pardalis

This is where they wrote their new year Resolution.

Sword_Of_Truth · 7th January 2008, 03:26 PM

Quote:

We aim to foster reason and responsibility within the global movement for truth. We base this in the following values:

1. Awareness of public perception and the need for strategic and responsible promotion and presentation.

Future death threats against debunkers to be prefaced with; "We don't want to kill you, but..."

T.A.M. · 7th January 2008, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Pardalis

This is where they wrote their new year Resolution.

Except Rev911, who wrote his part from here...
under mom and dads backyard

TAM

FactCheck · 7th January 2008, 03:31 PM

Look out! They're going to... *Gulp*... have an e-mail campaign!

OldTigerCub · 7th January 2008, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

Awesome...

Quote:

Quote:
We aim to foster reason and responsibility within the global movement for truth. We base this in the following values:

1. Awareness of public perception and the need for strategic and responsible promotion and presentation. (disown webster tarpley, Jim Fetzer, Judy Wood, and Kevin Barrett)
2. A commitment to building credibility and encouraging constructive alliances with the anti-war movement and other natural allies. (beg to be part of "real" movements)
3. Adherence to the scientific method and journalistic standards, with a focus on facts, substance, and sources. (dump all work by S.Jones, PFT, and Pentacon)
4. A dedication to rational, respectful, and nonviolent debate and activism. (seeya Mark Dice, Jackchit, Kevin Barrett, etc...) Fundamental respect in discourse with all individuals, including those within the government and military, journalists, and supposed “opponents.” (I guess no more "Young Angry Boy" attitude).
5. A faith in the honest democratic process and our ability to come to meaningful and actionable conclusions (truths). (So Ron Paul is not the only non NWO Shill running???)
6. Motivations based in compassion, justice, and truth. (As long as it fits into our skewed world view).

My comments in bolded italics for flavor...

TAM

If they took your suggestions to heart, they would be minimized right out of existence!

Cl1mh4224rd · 7th January 2008, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by FactCheck

Look out! They're going to... *Gulp*... have an e-mail campaign!

Read: Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam!

7th January 2008, 02:58 PM	#1
boloboffin Guest Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 5,005	TruthMove 2008 Declaration - Standards and Strategies for 9/11 Truth Behold, the International Truth Movement's 2008 Declaration: Standards and Strategies for 9/11 Truth! Quote: We aim to foster reason and responsibility within the global movement for truth. We base this in the following values: Awareness of public perception and the need for strategic and responsible promotion and presentation. A commitment to building credibility and encouraging constructive alliances with the anti-war movement and other natural allies. Adherence to the scientific method and journalistic standards, with a focus on facts, substance, and sources. A dedication to rational, respectful, and nonviolent debate and activism. Fundamental respect in discourse with all individuals, including those within the government and military, journalists, and supposed “opponents.” A faith in the honest democratic process and our ability to come to meaningful and actionable conclusions (truths). Motivations based in compassion, justice, and truth. Conversely, we seek to counteract and minimize: Promotion of speculative and unsubstantiated claims. Disruptive, divisive, diversionary, and aggressive behavior. Damaging and marginalizing associations. Organized and intentional sabotage. Highly partisan representations of the movement. Motivations based on ego, hatred, and belittlement. We will engage others in the movement who break these guidelines with constructive dialog, raising awareness of these issues. Those who are unresponsive to reason and have a clear history of disruption, combativeness, or excessively poor judgment will not be engaged. We recognize an important distinction between private speculation and public promotion. Speculation, hypothesis, and experimentation are the basis of the scientific method. However, the promotion of highly speculative claims is irresponsible and damaging to our credibility. Instead, verifiable fact-based research must be primary in our search for and promotion of the truth. Lots more at the link, including the "Go ahead and believe this if you wanna but shaddup in public about it" list of unapproved CTs. See if your fav made the list!

7th January 2008, 03:01 PM	#2
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 6,569	Do they not see that the things they seek to minimize are the entire basis for their movement?
	__________________ [Due to high ambient stupidity, I guess I need to spell it out: THIS IS A JOKE.] - JamesBlodgett You have a bucket of squirrel crap here. - Leftysergeant

7th January 2008, 03:06 PM	#4
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,064	TruthMove consists of two guys and a banner. The revolution will probably have to wait. Quote: Conversely, we seek to counteract and minimize: Promotion of speculative and unsubstantiated claims. Yeah. Check their 9/11 "11 Things You Should Know" list, all of which I corrected for them over a year ago. What douchebags. When I saw them 6 months later and asked why all this false information was still on their flyers (although they agreed some of it was wrong), the leader, Jules, told me that they had already printed a lot up. "Oh, so it's okay to hand out lies at Ground Zero if you have a lot of them." "We're not talking to you."
	__________________ "Please, keep your chops cool and don’t overblow.” –Freddie Hubbard What's the Harm?........Stop Sylvia Browne........My 9/11 links Last edited by Gravy; 7th January 2008 at 03:12 PM.

7th January 2008, 03:06 PM	#5
JamesB Master Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,031	This cracks me up, they state this as a guideline: Quote: Avoid the divisive labeling of individuals and groups (i.e. MIHOP, LIHOP, Shill, planehugger, agent, etc.) But then add this only two bullett points later: Quote: Be aware and vigilant concerning the presence of agent provocateurs within the movement. We know the government shills are there, but be nice and don't call them that!
JamesB Master Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,031	__________________ I said lots of things in NPH that I would not say today and that I did not repeat in NPHR, where I specifically corrected at least some of the errors I had made in that earlier book, written 5 years ago. -David Ray Griffin-

7th January 2008, 03:07 PM	#6
MIKILLINI Incromulent Logic Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Illini State Posts: 1,959	Quote: #3. Adherence to the scientific method and journalistic standards, with a focus on facts, substance, and sources. This should have been at the top of their list. I wonder why it isn't... hmm
	__________________ Attempting to build a case without evidence is just another day spent with no use of common sense. The conspiracist is not merely illogical: he assaults logic.~ Pomeroo Sylvia Browne is not a medium, she's a mediocre. Last edited by MIKILLINI; 7th January 2008 at 03:08 PM.

7th January 2008, 03:05 PM	#3
Brainache Nasty Brutish and Tall Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sinny 'Straya. Posts: 5,681	How long before the guy who wrote that is accused of being a government shill trying to derail the Truth with subtle disinfo?
	__________________ Superstition brings bad luck - W.H. Auden.

7th January 2008, 03:09 PM	#7
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 18,976	Awesome... Quote: We aim to foster reason and responsibility within the global movement for truth. We base this in the following values: 1. Awareness of public perception and the need for strategic and responsible promotion and presentation. *(disown webster tarpley, Jim Fetzer, Judy Wood, and Kevin Barrett)* 2. A commitment to building credibility and encouraging constructive alliances with the anti-war movement and other natural allies. *(beg to be part of "real" movements)* 3. Adherence to the scientific method and journalistic standards, with a focus on facts, substance, and sources. *(dump all work by S.Jones, PFT, and Pentacon)* 4. A dedication to rational, respectful, and nonviolent debate and activism. *(seeya Mark Dice, Jackchit, Kevin Barrett, etc...)* Fundamental respect in discourse with all individuals, including those within the government and military, journalists, and supposed “opponents.” *(I guess no more "Young Angry Boy" attitude).* 5. A faith in the honest democratic process and our ability to come to meaningful and actionable conclusions (truths). *(So Ron Paul is not the only non NWO Shill running???)* 6. Motivations based in compassion, justice, and truth. *(As long as it fits into our skewed world view).* My comments in bolded italics for *flavor*... TAM
	__________________ "Angry Young Man!" - The truth movement in a phrase, by O&A "His fists in the air, his head in the sand" - Angry Young Man, Billy Joel An English Professor that knew 9/11 from the Truth Movement quotes would conclude that hyperbole, simile, and metaphor caused the towers to collapse. - BigAl

7th January 2008, 03:14 PM	#8
Pardalis Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 21,109	This is where they wrote their new year Resolution.
	__________________ "It is best to change your point of view in response to reality than to insist reality has it wrong because it doesn't agree with your point of view." aggle-rithm "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin "All we know is that we know much less and less, but at least we know less and less about much more and more" Christopher Hitchens

7th January 2008, 03:20 PM	#9
LashL Goddess of Legaltainment™ Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NWO AGM Posts: 11,431	Originally Posted by Pardalis This is where they wrote their new year Resolution.
	__________________ If you torture data sufficiently, it will confess to almost anything. Last edited by LashL; 7th January 2008 at 03:21 PM.

7th January 2008, 03:26 PM	#10
Sword_Of_Truth Philosopher Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,526	Quote: We aim to foster reason and responsibility within the global movement for truth. We base this in the following values: 1. Awareness of public perception and the need for strategic and responsible promotion and presentation. Future death threats against debunkers to be prefaced with; "We don't want to kill you, but..."

7th January 2008, 03:28 PM	#11
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 18,976	Originally Posted by Pardalis This is where they wrote their new year Resolution. Except Rev911, who wrote his part from here... under mom and dads backyard TAM
	__________________ "Angry Young Man!" - The truth movement in a phrase, by O&A "His fists in the air, his head in the sand" - Angry Young Man, Billy Joel An English Professor that knew 9/11 from the Truth Movement quotes would conclude that hyperbole, simile, and metaphor caused the towers to collapse. - BigAl Last edited by T.A.M.; 7th January 2008 at 03:29 PM.

7th January 2008, 03:31 PM	#12
FactCheck Muse Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Firmly planted in reality. Posts: 619	Look out! They're going to... Gulp... have an e-mail campaign!
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7th January 2008, 04:17 PM	#13
OldTigerCub Striped Shapeshifting Reptoid Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Steeler Nation, Pa. Posts: 1,621	Originally Posted by T.A.M. Awesome... Quote: Quote: We aim to foster reason and responsibility within the global movement for truth. We base this in the following values: 1. Awareness of public perception and the need for strategic and responsible promotion and presentation. (disown webster tarpley, Jim Fetzer, Judy Wood, and Kevin Barrett) 2. A commitment to building credibility and encouraging constructive alliances with the anti-war movement and other natural allies. (beg to be part of "real" movements) 3. Adherence to the scientific method and journalistic standards, with a focus on facts, substance, and sources. (dump all work by S.Jones, PFT, and Pentacon) 4. A dedication to rational, respectful, and nonviolent debate and activism. (seeya Mark Dice, Jackchit, Kevin Barrett, etc...) Fundamental respect in discourse with all individuals, including those within the government and military, journalists, and supposed “opponents.” (I guess no more "Young Angry Boy" attitude). 5. A faith in the honest democratic process and our ability to come to meaningful and actionable conclusions (truths). (So Ron Paul is not the only non NWO Shill running???) 6. Motivations based in compassion, justice, and truth. (As long as it fits into our skewed world view). My comments in bolded italics for *flavor*... TAM If they took your suggestions to heart, they would be minimized right out of existence!
	__________________ "Nuts!" - General Anthony C. McAuliffe

7th January 2008, 04:32 PM	#14
Cl1mh4224rd Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 4,463	Originally Posted by FactCheck Look out! They're going to... Gulp... have an e-mail campaign! Read: Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam!