If Hillary was prettier, would she get more votes?

EGarrett · 2nd February 2008, 02:39 PM

If Hillary was better-looking, do you think it would help her campaign? Or would have it no effect, or perhaps even hurt her?

fls · 2nd February 2008, 03:07 PM

If it helps, I think John Edwards and Mitt Romney just a little too handsome.

Linda

Giraffe107 · 2nd February 2008, 03:28 PM

In Australia we have a party called the Democrats- not like the US one, they are a fairly minor party. A few years ago, their leader was a very pretty young woman- she was articulate, intelligent, and gained a lot of popularity for the democrats among young people. But she was brought down by the press and the major parties, mainly through attacks on her age and looks. The Democrats dropped her and went on to become even more minor than before.
So in a nutshell it would probably hurt Hillary.

The Fool · 2nd February 2008, 03:31 PM

Hillary is a babe....what are you all talking about??

WildCat · 2nd February 2008, 03:35 PM

I was at a party last night and we took a poll of the partygoers to find who was the preferred Dem candidate. The vote was 13-3 for Obama. The interesting thing was, all 3 of the Hillary votes were from gay men!

Darth Rotor · 2nd February 2008, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by EGarrett

If Hillary was better-looking, do you think it would help her campaign? Or would have it no effect, or perhaps even hurt her?

Don't think so. GW Bush ain't handsome, and he got elected.

Her appeal, to be attractive to voters, needs to be the whole package of who she is and what she offers. Ever since her successful run for Senate in 2000, she and her team have been hard at work on packaging Hillary as President.

Since she isn't physically repulsive, her looks don't enter into it. The question is: is the Hillary package deal pretty enough for your vote?

DR

TragicMonkey · 2nd February 2008, 05:48 PM

Hell, if you want to see ugly, look at Liebermann. Ugh. I know plenty of people who aren't exactly easy on the eyes, but he actually gives me retina pain. And yet he still gets elected. Even with all the evil, and those looks he gets elected. Clearly, Americans aren't hung up on looks when it comes to politicians.

Hillary looks okay for a woman of her years, but mostly she's only attractive in the sense that she's apparently well out of Bill's league, but settled for him anyway. What's the deal with that?

Iamme · 2nd February 2008, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by The Fool

Hillary is a babe....what are you all talking about??

I too think she is attractive...enough. Isn't she more attractive than what Margaret Thatcher was?

joobz · 2nd February 2008, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

Don't think so. GW Bush ain't handsome, and he got elected.

Her appeal, to be attractive to voters, needs to be the whole package of who she is and what she offers. Ever since her successful run for Senate in 2000, she and her team have been hard at work on packaging Hillary as President.

Since she isn't physically repulsive, her looks don't enter into it. The question is: is the Hillary package deal pretty enough for your vote?

DR

I would agree with you on the GWB front, but it seems many women do find him attractive.

As for Hillary, I think her public speaking is what hurts her the most. Her speaches always feel forced. It feeds into the negative persona that conservatives paint her with. That was the major lesson from her "emotional episode" after her first loss.

fuelair · 2nd February 2008, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by WildCat

I was at a party last night and we took a poll of the partygoers to find who was the preferred Dem candidate. The vote was 13-3 for Obama. The interesting thing was, all 3 of the Hillary votes were from gay men!

Bet they loved Judy Garland too (or is that joke used way too much in the movies?

fuelair · 2nd February 2008, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

Don't think so. GW Bush ain't handsome, and he got elected.

DR

Yeah, but bunches of the deluded wanted to drink with him!!

Region Rat · 2nd February 2008, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Hell, if you want to see ugly, look at Liebermann. Ugh. I know plenty of people who aren't exactly easy on the eyes, but he actually gives me retina pain. And yet he still gets elected. Even with all the evil, and those looks he gets elected. Clearly, Americans aren't hung up on looks when it comes to politicians

I think Arlen Specter tops old Joe in the butt ugly department, and he's still getting the votes.

Esperdome · 2nd February 2008, 07:18 PM

I'm amazed at how well Chelsea turned out. When her father was president, many idiots attacked her on her looks. I've always thought she was a duckling waiting to become a swan, and to watch her now, she is a very pretty swan. Hillary would do well to keep Chelsea in front of college crowds, she's a vote magnet.

Elizabeth I · 2nd February 2008, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by joobz

As for Hillary, I think her public speaking is what hurts her the most. Her speaches always feel forced. It feeds into the negative persona that conservatives paint her with. That was the major lesson from her "emotional episode" after her first loss.

I find her voice extremely unattractive.

Oroborus · 2nd February 2008, 09:03 PM

Maybe if she was at that fine line between good looking and the assumption that looks are all she has. And I agree with Elizabeth, her voice could use a once over.

shadron · 2nd February 2008, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by EGarrett

If Hillary was better-looking, do you think it would help her campaign? Or would have it no effect, or perhaps even hurt her?

Does contemplating Ann Coulter answer the question?

Good looks are usually an asset in getting attention in the first place, but if you have no intelligence (or, perhaps, political cunning?) to back it up you'll get trashed faster than if you hadn't had it at all. People not only more easily admire good looks, they also envy them.

Modified · 3rd February 2008, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by Elizabeth I

I find her voice extremely unattractive.

I always wonder why politicians with unattractive voices don't get some help early in their careers. The nasally whine of Bush Sr. would be an extreme example. Hillary's voice is a bit grating, but not so much so that softening it would result in something unrecognizable.

Brainster · 3rd February 2008, 07:47 AM

Diana Irey was as pretty as they come, and she was up against the rather unappealing John Murtha.

She lost by 22 percentage points.

plumjam · 3rd February 2008, 07:53 AM

she isn't repulsive, but if she looked like Monica Lewinsky she'd be smokiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn'

UserGoogol · 3rd February 2008, 08:01 AM

I think that (for both genders) there is a sort of Laffer curve of attractiveness. If you're too ugly, people don't want to look at you, but if you're too pretty, people don't take you seriously. Of course, like the Laffer curve, it's probably more complicated in practice than a simple parabola.

I suspect being slightly prettier couldn't hurt, though.

Originally Posted by Iamme

I too think she is attractive...enough. Isn't she more attractive than what Margaret Thatcher was?

Prime ministers aren't directly elected, so they are held to lower standards. Of course, they still have to be elected to their own district, but (as some of the pictures in this thread have shown) the legislative branch can handle decent amounts of ugliness because people are elected on a smaller scale. Also, she was far more attractive back in the 50s when she was first elected to Parliament.

Travis · 3rd February 2008, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by plumjam

she isn't repulsive, but if she looked like Monica Lewinsky she'd be smokiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn'

There were many distasteful ways you could have taken that and yet you choose that way. Oh well.

T.A.M. · 3rd February 2008, 08:34 AM

I think if Hillary had charisma, and likability, then good looks would contribute. Without the first two, she could look like Scarlet Johanson, and it would make no difference.

TAM

The Painter · 3rd February 2008, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by EGarrett

If Hillary was better-looking, do you think it would help her campaign? Or would have it no effect, or perhaps even hurt her?

No effect. If she were super model pretty, that would hurt her.

maxpower1227 · 3rd February 2008, 10:13 AM

I think it would help Hillary if she wasn't a slimy, power-hungry wench who had utter contempt for those with opposing political views; if she was more willing to compromise with those who had differing views; if she wasn't tainted by the numerous scandals from the Clinton years, the slandering of the women who accused her husband of sexual misconduct, and the general manipulation of the truth that she and her husband partook in; and so on. There's no way Republicans and Independents will cozy up to Hillary like they do to Obama.

Drysdale · 3rd February 2008, 11:18 AM

Boy, this is an easy one.

No, she'd still be the same crooked,conniving politician she is no matter what she looked like.

andyandy · 3rd February 2008, 02:05 PM

it's an interesting question....

looks certainly are important in politics - just ask Menzies Campbell. He's in his mid sixties but looks about 80.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menzies_Campbell

and was basically hounded out of office, with every single interview referring to his age, whether he was too old, could he do the job, etc etc....

if he'd been mid sixties but looked younger, then i think he'd almost certainly still be lib dem leader....

with women we still have a great deal of misogyny in society - and whilst i think that in general good looking women do have a much easier time progressing in society, if you're a pretty female politician i think you'd get a harder time....there would be some that thought you were just a pretty face and had got there by looks alone, others (let's face it, bitchy women's magazines) that would consider every fashion faux pas, every shot of you ever showing any flesh, every extreme close up spot the wrinkles, every shot of you without make-up to be worthy of splashing all over the front pages....

perhaps you'd be better off being just the right side of average - not too pretty, not too plain....

Damien Evans · 3rd February 2008, 08:29 PM

[Dr Who]Don't you think she looks a bit tired?[/Dr Who]

Spindrift · 4th February 2008, 08:26 AM

Murtha, Lieberman and Specter are downright hunky when compared to Henry Waxman.

TheJim · 5th February 2008, 08:50 AM

Hillary is above average in attractiveness for women of her age so if she looked like Jessica Biel or Alba she would have no chance as the age group with the most attractive women are not eligible to vote.

Darth Rotor · 5th February 2008, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by joobz

I would agree with you on the GWB front, but it seems many women do find him attractive.

If W is attractive, I am Brad ****** Pitt.

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As for Hillary, I think her public speaking is what hurts her the most. Her speaches always feel forced.

Uh, as forced as W's attempts, or forced in a different way? She may not often come off as warm, but she does come off as articulate and intelligent in most cases.

It is hardly fair to compare anyone to W in public speaking, given his owning the basement in that division.

DR

bigred · 5th February 2008, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

Don't think so. GW Bush ain't handsome, and he got elected.

Her appeal, to be attractive to voters, needs to be the whole package of who she is and what she offers. Ever since her successful run for Senate in 2000, she and her team have been hard at work on packaging Hillary as President.

Since she isn't physically repulsive, her looks don't enter into it. The question is: is the Hillary package deal pretty enough for your vote?

Don't kid yourself DR. Looks (and other "personal demographical" aspects) SHOULDN'T matter....but do. If Hillary was a "hot," yes it could and probably would change voter's attitudes towards her - likewise if she was butt-ugly. Hell if Hillary was a man she'd be lucky to even be in the race - IMO ditto for Obama if he was white and his name was Fred Smith.

A LOT of people - consciously or not - take heart to such superficial things. Not saying it's all they care about by any means, but it impacts them. Sad but true.

Bill Thompson · 5th February 2008, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by EGarrett

If Hillary was better-looking, do you think it would help her campaign?

It is how JFK beat Nixon.

ksbluesfan · 5th February 2008, 10:44 AM

The only reason I'm voting for her is because she's hot.

dudalb · 5th February 2008, 11:16 AM

If Pretty wins elections, Kucinich's Wife should run instead of Kucinich.

bigred · 5th February 2008, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by ksbluesfan

The only reason I'm voting for her is because she's hot.

You REALLY need to get out more.

DrBaltar · 6th February 2008, 08:06 AM

If Hillary becomes pres, do you think she will have an affair with a male or female intern?

Spindrift · 6th February 2008, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by DrBaltar

If Hillary becomes pres, do you think she will have an affair with a male or female intern?

If she does, I just hope she has better taste than Bill. The most powerful man in the world and Paula Jones and Monica Lewinsky are the best he can do?

steverino · 6th February 2008, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Hell, if you want to see ugly, look at Liebermann. Ugh.

Oh yeah, TM? Well from what I hear, he is hung like a horse. Now what do you think about his looks?

bigred · 6th February 2008, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by DrBaltar

If Hillary becomes pres, do you think she will have an affair with a male or female intern?

I heard some rumour about her and Markie Post when Bill was prez, but not buying it......

steverino · 6th February 2008, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Diana Irey was as pretty as they come, and she was up against the rather unappealing John Murtha.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...5e1baa588e.jpg

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting...5e1fc86746.jpg

She lost by 22 percentage points.

Hubba hubba, wah wah-wee-wah! Maybe Obama could select HER for VP.

2nd February 2008, 02:39 PM	#1
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2nd February 2008, 03:07 PM	#2
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Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,279	Originally Posted by EGarrett If Hillary was better-looking, do you think it would help her campaign? Or would have it no effect, or perhaps even hurt her? Don't think so. GW Bush ain't handsome, and he got elected. Her appeal, to be attractive to voters, needs to be the whole package of who she is and what she offers. Ever since her successful run for Senate in 2000, she and her team have been hard at work on packaging Hillary as President. Since she isn't physically repulsive, her looks don't enter into it. The question is: is the Hillary package deal pretty enough for your vote? DR
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2nd February 2008, 03:28 PM	#3
Giraffe107 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,339	In Australia we have a party called the Democrats- not like the US one, they are a fairly minor party. A few years ago, their leader was a very pretty young woman- she was articulate, intelligent, and gained a lot of popularity for the democrats among young people. But she was brought down by the press and the major parties, mainly through attacks on her age and looks. The Democrats dropped her and went on to become even more minor than before. So in a nutshell it would probably hurt Hillary.

2nd February 2008, 03:35 PM	#5
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,111	I was at a party last night and we took a poll of the partygoers to find who was the preferred Dem candidate. The vote was 13-3 for Obama. The interesting thing was, all 3 of the Hillary votes were from gay men!

2nd February 2008, 05:56 PM	#8
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joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,504	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor Don't think so. GW Bush ain't handsome, and he got elected. Her appeal, to be attractive to voters, needs to be the whole package of who she is and what she offers. Ever since her successful run for Senate in 2000, she and her team have been hard at work on packaging Hillary as President. Since she isn't physically repulsive, her looks don't enter into it. The question is: is the Hillary package deal pretty enough for your vote? DR I would agree with you on the GWB front, but it seems many women do find him attractive. As for Hillary, I think her public speaking is what hurts her the most. Her speaches always feel forced. It feeds into the negative persona that conservatives paint her with. That was the major lesson from her "emotional episode" after her first loss.
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fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,961	Originally Posted by WildCat I was at a party last night and we took a poll of the partygoers to find who was the preferred Dem candidate. The vote was 13-3 for Obama. The interesting thing was, all 3 of the Hillary votes were from gay men! Bet they loved Judy Garland too (or is that joke used way too much in the movies?
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2nd February 2008, 06:20 PM	#11
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,961	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor Don't think so. GW Bush ain't handsome, and he got elected. DR Yeah, but bunches of the deluded wanted to drink with him!!
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Elizabeth I Olympic Equestrian Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Defending the Alamo Posts: 9,269	Originally Posted by joobz As for Hillary, I think her public speaking is what hurts her the most. Her speaches always feel forced. It feeds into the negative persona that conservatives paint her with. That was the major lesson from her "emotional episode" after her first loss. I find her voice extremely unattractive.
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Oroborus Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 238	Maybe if she was at that fine line between good looking and the assumption that looks are all she has. And I agree with Elizabeth, her voice could use a once over.
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2nd February 2008, 10:18 PM	#16
shadron Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,719	Originally Posted by EGarrett If Hillary was better-looking, do you think it would help her campaign? Or would have it no effect, or perhaps even hurt her? Does contemplating Ann Coulter answer the question? Good looks are usually an asset in getting attention in the first place, but if you have no intelligence (or, perhaps, political cunning?) to back it up you'll get trashed faster than if you hadn't had it at all. People not only more easily admire good looks, they also envy them.

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Modified Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SW Florida Posts: 4,062	Originally Posted by Elizabeth I I find her voice extremely unattractive. I always wonder why politicians with unattractive voices don't get some help early in their careers. The nasally whine of Bush Sr. would be an extreme example. Hillary's voice is a bit grating, but not so much so that softening it would result in something unrecognizable.

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plumjam Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 7,837	she isn't repulsive, but if she looked like Monica Lewinsky she'd be smokiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn'

3rd February 2008, 08:01 AM	#20
UserGoogol Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,074	I think that (for both genders) there is a sort of Laffer curve of attractiveness. If you're too ugly, people don't want to look at you, but if you're too pretty, people don't take you seriously. Of course, like the Laffer curve, it's probably more complicated in practice than a simple parabola. I suspect being slightly prettier couldn't hurt, though. Originally Posted by Iamme I too think she is attractive...enough. Isn't she more attractive than what Margaret Thatcher was? Prime ministers aren't directly elected, so they are held to lower standards. Of course, they still have to be elected to their own district, but (as some of the pictures in this thread have shown) the legislative branch can handle decent amounts of ugliness because people are elected on a smaller scale. Also, she was far more attractive back in the 50s when she was first elected to Parliament.
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Travis Misanthrope of the Mountains Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tuolumne City, CA Posts: 17,959	Originally Posted by plumjam she isn't repulsive, but if she looked like Monica Lewinsky she'd be smokiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn' There were many distasteful ways you could have taken that and yet you choose that way. Oh well.
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3rd February 2008, 08:34 AM	#22
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	I think if Hillary had charisma, and likability, then good looks would contribute. Without the first two, she could look like Scarlet Johanson, and it would make no difference. TAM

3rd February 2008, 08:36 AM	#23
The Painter Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York Posts: 2,656	Originally Posted by EGarrett If Hillary was better-looking, do you think it would help her campaign? Or would have it no effect, or perhaps even hurt her? No effect. If she were super model pretty, that would hurt her.

3rd February 2008, 10:13 AM	#24
maxpower1227 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,045	I think it would help Hillary if she wasn't a slimy, power-hungry wench who had utter contempt for those with opposing political views; if she was more willing to compromise with those who had differing views; if she wasn't tainted by the numerous scandals from the Clinton years, the slandering of the women who accused her husband of sexual misconduct, and the general manipulation of the truth that she and her husband partook in; and so on. There's no way Republicans and Independents will cozy up to Hillary like they do to Obama.
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3rd February 2008, 11:18 AM	#25
Drysdale Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,017	Boy, this is an easy one. No, she'd still be the same crooked,conniving politician she is no matter what she looked like.

3rd February 2008, 02:05 PM	#26
andyandy anthropomorphic ape Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: up a tree Posts: 8,196	it's an interesting question.... looks certainly are important in politics - just ask Menzies Campbell. He's in his mid sixties but looks about 80..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menzies_Campbell and was basically hounded out of office, with every single interview referring to his age, whether he was too old, could he do the job, etc etc.... if he'd been mid sixties but looked younger, then i think he'd almost certainly still be lib dem leader.... with women we still have a great deal of misogyny in society - and whilst i think that in general good looking women do have a much easier time progressing in society, if you're a pretty female politician i think you'd get a harder time....there would be some that thought you were just a pretty face and had got there by looks alone, others (let's face it, bitchy women's magazines) that would consider every fashion faux pas, every shot of you ever showing any flesh, every extreme close up spot the wrinkles, every shot of you without make-up to be worthy of splashing all over the front pages.... perhaps you'd be better off being just the right side of average - not too pretty, not too plain....

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5th February 2008, 08:50 AM	#29
TheJim Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 419	Hillary is above average in attractiveness for women of her age so if she looked like Jessica Biel or Alba she would have no chance as the age group with the most attractive women are not eligible to vote.
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5th February 2008, 09:30 AM	#30
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,279	Originally Posted by joobz I would agree with you on the GWB front, but it seems many women do find him attractive. If W is attractive, I am Brad ****** Pitt. Quote: As for Hillary, I think her public speaking is what hurts her the most. Her speaches always feel forced. Uh, as forced as W's attempts, or forced in a different way? She may not often come off as warm, but she does come off as articulate and intelligent in most cases. It is hardly fair to compare anyone to W in public speaking, given his owning the basement in that division. DR
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5th February 2008, 09:40 AM	#31
bigred Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 12,542	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor Don't think so. GW Bush ain't handsome, and he got elected. Her appeal, to be attractive to voters, needs to be the whole package of who she is and what she offers. Ever since her successful run for Senate in 2000, she and her team have been hard at work on packaging Hillary as President. Since she isn't physically repulsive, her looks don't enter into it. The question is: is the Hillary package deal pretty enough for your vote? Don't kid yourself DR. Looks (and other "personal demographical" aspects) SHOULDN'T matter....but do. If Hillary was a "hot," yes it could and probably would change voter's attitudes towards her - likewise if she was butt-ugly. Hell if Hillary was a man she'd be lucky to even be in the race - IMO ditto for Obama if he was white and his name was Fred Smith. A LOT of people - consciously or not - take heart to such superficial things. Not saying it's all they care about by any means, but it impacts them. Sad but true.

5th February 2008, 09:59 AM	#32
Bill Thompson Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Redmond, Washington Posts: 6,176	Originally Posted by EGarrett If Hillary was better-looking, do you think it would help her campaign? It is how JFK beat Nixon.

5th February 2008, 10:44 AM	#33
ksbluesfan Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,384	The only reason I'm voting for her is because she's hot.

5th February 2008, 11:16 AM	#34
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,848	If Pretty wins elections, Kucinich's Wife should run instead of Kucinich.

5th February 2008, 01:14 PM	#35
bigred Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 12,542	Originally Posted by ksbluesfan The only reason I'm voting for her is because she's hot. You REALLY need to get out more.