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5th February 2008, 10:21 PM | #1 |
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So when does Paul drop out?
Well Ron Paul has performed HORRIBLY. Will he drop out after the Super Tuesday is over and done with?
I can't see any reason why he'd keep going, at this point he can't even influence the convention at all. |
5th February 2008, 10:31 PM | #2 |
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Well, the folk that live on planet earth knew that RP was never going to get more than a small percentage of votes. But the zealots wouldn't listen.
It was supposed to be a REVOLUTION! You can spam polls and put up signs with fellow dorks, but that won't get you elected. Maybe they will figure it out, but instead they will probably all crow about how they got 8% in one state. |
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5th February 2008, 10:42 PM | #3 |
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Wonder if Paul is going to give back all that money he didn't spend on advertising to his donors, or if he's just gonna pocket it. I'm thinking the latter. Message to Ron Paul supporters: SUCKERS!
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5th February 2008, 10:44 PM | #4 |
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Gah, our Republican caucus is this week, and the Ron Paul ads have just started on local TV broadcasts.
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5th February 2008, 10:45 PM | #5 |
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i hope he stays in to the bitter end, because it's been comedy gold the whole way.
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5th February 2008, 10:48 PM | #6 |
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I'm HOPING he stays until the end, because I've made so many bets with people about this outcome, it would bring me MAD MONEY
Eat that, Jim Cramer. |
5th February 2008, 10:55 PM | #7 |
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Note to all the Paulbots.
TAKE DOWN YOUR DAMNED SIGNS! most were put up illegally, attached to overpasses, road islands, trees, etc. |
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5th February 2008, 11:02 PM | #8 |
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Drop out? I didn't know he was running.
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5th February 2008, 11:18 PM | #9 |
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Been browsing ronpaulforums.com periodically the past few days, it seems they have finally conceded that he's done and now the conspiracy phase begins in full force! M$M and the CIA are mostly responsible for Paul losing, because it's simply not possible the voters didn't want him...yawn.
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5th February 2008, 11:26 PM | #10 |
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5th February 2008, 11:38 PM | #11 |
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Well I've been too on ronpaulforums.com and only a few crackpots say that. Generalizing is just not the right thing now. I guess every reasonable RP fan knew that he's never going to win. Even RP must have known that. And the fact that RP won't drop out of the race is not because he believes there's a chance he will win.
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5th February 2008, 11:41 PM | #12 |
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6th February 2008, 12:06 AM | #13 |
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But what is the problem now? The crackpots who are making the whole RP campaign unattractive and creepy looking and that the official RP campaign sucked as hell or that RP's ideas actually suck as hell?? Both??
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6th February 2008, 12:08 AM | #14 |
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nothing is the problem. i actually encourage it. see post #5. i hope it lasts forever.
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6th February 2008, 12:10 AM | #15 |
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I hate liberty so much, I tried voting for Giuliani...EVEN AFTER HE DROPPED
(Before I get the hate mail, I didn't actually vote Giuliani...) |
6th February 2008, 12:24 AM | #16 |
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So is this the new logo?
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6th February 2008, 12:41 AM | #17 |
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Uncommitted is beating him in the delegate count. That is just embrassing.
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6th February 2008, 03:41 AM | #18 |
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6th February 2008, 07:30 AM | #19 |
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Ron Paul out of it? Nonsense. His delegate count is up 267%! He's in double-digits folks!
He beat McCain in Alaska. He tied McCain and Huckabee for delegates in North Dakota. If only the US was entirely made of sparsely populated states where the M$M can't work against him. If the M$M, the CIA and most Republican weren't against him, he'd probably have at least twenty delegates by now. |
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6th February 2008, 08:23 AM | #20 |
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The is still an opening for Ron Paul as a third party candidate. With McCain likely to win the Republican nomination, Ron Paul can now present himself to the voters as the conservative alternative.
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6th February 2008, 08:31 AM | #21 |
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My opinion is that Ron Paul is only in this to get the Libertarian message out (like Tancredo was in the race to get the illegal immigrant message out). But, if they actually said that, they would not get the funding they needed (or if they said it later, they could get charged with some kind of fraud or misrepresentation).
So regardless of his chances, he will stay in the race until: 1) The money runs out, or 2) They feel it is time to turn their support over to the candidate they want to win over the others |
6th February 2008, 08:36 AM | #22 |
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I don't think that Ron Paul can present himself as the "conservative" alternative because most "conservatives" disagree with him pretty strongly on if nothing else the war. But paleoconservatives could probably like him. (The Alabama Constitution Party has endorsed Ron Paul, for instance.) I still think that if Ron Paul runs as a third party candidate he could, in principle, break into that vaulted 1% realm.
(Although I admit I have the ulterior motives that even though I hate Ron Paul, I want him or someone like him to be able to provide a counter-spoiler so that the Green Party can do their thing without worrying about giving the election to the Republicans.) |
6th February 2008, 09:17 AM | #23 |
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As others I am sure have commented, RP will likely go all the way to the convention out of spite. His followers will have it no other way.
The twisted apple does not fall far from the twisted tree. TAM |
6th February 2008, 09:28 AM | #24 |
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6th February 2008, 09:29 AM | #25 |
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I agree. Especially if Romney and Huckabee have dropped out by then.
Does anyone know the rules of conventions? If Ron Paul goes into the convention with his handful of delegates, does someone get to give a nominating speech for him? I think Paul would use any publicity he can get at the convention to launch his Libertarian Party run. |
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6th February 2008, 09:36 AM | #26 |
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6th February 2008, 09:47 AM | #27 |
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6th February 2008, 09:53 AM | #28 |
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I'm partly coyly making fun of some poster (The Central Scrutinizer, I think?) who has liked pointing out that libertarians reliably get "0%" of the vote, in the sense that that's what you get when you round to the nearest percent. If Paul can get 1% of the vote, (technically 0.5% I guess) then libertarians would no longer get 0%. It amounts to absolutely nothing practically speaking, but it's my opinion that people like Ralph Nader (2.7% in 2000) and Ross Perot (18.9% in 1992 and 8.4% in 1996) are definitely of a higher tier of third party candidates than Badnarik (0.3% in 2004) or David Cobb (0.1% in 2004)
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6th February 2008, 09:57 AM | #29 |
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See if you guys hadn't revolted and became a constitutional monarchy you too could have a head of state that is chosen for you and her representative appointed.
Then you wouldn't have the current weird system that you have. |
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6th February 2008, 09:59 AM | #30 |
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6th February 2008, 10:17 AM | #31 |
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Wouldn't want a winner winning I suppose....
Video: Here "Ron Paul won all the debates" because of his resonating message of individual liberty and personal responsibility. "Ron Paul won all the debates," stated Rudy Giuliani in his speech conceding defeat in the Florida Primary to John McCain. "Government works best when it empowers people to take responsibilities for their own lives.”
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6th February 2008, 10:26 AM | #32 |
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So when does Paul drop out?
...When Ringo dies. |
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6th February 2008, 10:32 AM | #33 |
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Wow, Swing has gone from a almost Marxist Left Wing Position to a Libertarian position overnight.
I find that is not unusual among Paul Supporters. That so many wanted a Paul/Kucinich position is proof that in the end the whole Paul phenemenon is based not on policy,but an almost mindless "Screw The Establishment" mindset. As for the Paul campaign for the GOP nomination: It's bleeding demised, it has passed on,it has ceased to be, it's expired and has gone to meet it's Maker,it's a stiff,bereft of life,it's metabolic processes now extinct. It's kicked the bucket,it has shuffled off this mortal coil,ran down the curtain and joined the bleeeding choir invisible. It is an Ex.Campaign. |
6th February 2008, 10:34 AM | #34 |
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Paul has to be planning to drop...every other candidate made a speech last night or at least had an announcement on their website, nada from Paul. How can you leave your supporters hanging like that after the big dance? Methinks Paul is tired and wants to go home but he feels obligated to spend all the money people have sent him and apparently keep sending despite the impossibly long odds. It's becoming quite cliché to gloat over Paul's catastophe of a campaign, but if the candidate I donated to and campaigned for lost that bad yesterday and didn't have anything to say I would be quite pissed.
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6th February 2008, 10:40 AM | #35 |
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They thought that was some kind of poltical guerilla warfare, I guess. Here in Sacramento,the cops actually caught some of them at work and they got a fine for illegal posting.They actually posted a few of their signs on Private Property without the owner's permission. You know, common sense would tell you that if you have to sneak around at Two o Clock in the morning to do something,it might not be the best way of supporting your candidate. But common sense seems not to be common among the Ronulans. What amazes me is that Ron Paul made no attempt whatsoever to control his supporter and keep them from stupid antics like this . Granted, I don't know how sucessful he would have been, but he could have at least put out a memo to his supporters saying not to do anything illegal,etc. But I guess common sense is lacking not just in Paul supporters,but Paul himself. |
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6th February 2008, 10:47 AM | #38 |
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Gotta love the tags in this one:
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6th February 2008, 10:53 AM | #39 |
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Cause even knuckle draggers need a candidate
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6th February 2008, 11:00 AM | #40 |
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While we are on what has to be one of the last Ron Paul topics, I've been trying to figure this one out.
Were they going for the Colonel Sanders look? |
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