MartinVs "Everytrust" & "My Life Consultants"

[Locknar]

From another thread:

Originally Posted by madurobob

As a further aside: I note you are the founder of Everytrust, described here as "a trillion dollar non-profit organization that provides health, education, food, housing, and employment benefits to all 6.6 billion people of the world, with 950 offices in 250 countries". I would love to have an in depth discussion with you regarding everytrust over in the business section. Would that be amenable to you?

I think many would be interested in discussion of MartinV's business dealings, espeically involving Everytrust (a reported trillion dollar trust fund) and the "My Life Consultants.

For example, Everytrust is reported to have 950 offices in 250 countries; that is exceptional. Certinaly a trillion dollar organization as large as yours (MartinV) is worthy of discussion here.

That said, I can't help but wonder why the address for their International HQ is given as the residential address: 3809 Purdum DR, Mt Airy, MD 21771

What is really odd, is this is also the address of "My Life Management LLC", a registered builder in MD and something called My Life Inc. which does temporary staffing (though their website mentions "Share your life and news with friends and family").

[wahrheit]

Originally Posted by Locknar

(a reported trillion dollar trust fun)

My name is Sigmund, and I approve of this slip.

BTW, you can preview the index of Martin's book here. Um, well, what to say... dunno.

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Originally Posted by wahrheit

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Freud-loc.jpg

My name is Sigmund, and I approve of this slip.

BTW, you can preview the index of Martin's book here. Um, well, what to say... dunno.

No. "a million dollar a truss fund" would be a Freudian slip. A trust "fun" is just a brain fart.

As far as the "trust" is concerned I see that the whole population of the World is a member. You just have to send in a donation for your membership card.

[Locknar]

I dunno...if I had access to a trillion dollars, I'd certainly have fun *lol*

Corrected.

Personally, I'm eager to have MartinV join in this discussion. The published CEO of a trillion dollar, multi-national, organization I think would have a lot to offer.

[John_Geeshu]

Yes, and apparently he wrote seven, count them, seven books in 2007; quite a feat! I'm not sure even Stephen King can top that.

[martinv]

With regards to the Everytrust organization I have formed.
Here are the facts:

1. It is incorporated in the state of Maryland under the name Everytrust International, Inc
2. I am a certified Oracle DBA and work with large database data warehouses
3. I created an oracle 11g database with tables that have 6,700,000,000 rows for the trust
a. One row per person on the planet, plus extras
b. The columns with state, country, and balance have values.
c. Most other columns are null
d. The tables contains records for people in 250+ countries
e. The value column in the database contains 16 digits of precision
4. The trust is based on a 1000 year time table
a. We decided trillion because that amount of compound interest is attainable in 300 years with a reasonably small starting balance
b. Your generation and your childrens generation will not see much economic benefit from the trust
c. See calculator below to get your own number
4. We used shared office space from Regus
a. they have 950+ offices
b. we use their offices
c. We do not have permanent offices (and do not state that we do)
d. Actually web site has been toned down. That was a little much.
5. The actual trust exists as a legal document.
a. The trust does list all 6.6+ billion people on the planet
b. the beneficiaries are identified as a named set "people on the planet"
6. The trust fund (which is a private document that does not need to be filed with the state) and the incorporated non-profit
a. use my home address as the legal mailing address
b. use the PO 1086 mail box as the marketing address
c. We have no other permanent office

To provide proof of some of the above I add the following from my computer:


SQL*Plus: Release 11.1.0.6.0 - Production on Sun Feb 17 21:00:51 2008

Copyright (c) 1982, 2007, Oracle. All rights reserved.

Enter user-name:

Connected to:
Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.1.0.6.0 - Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP, Data Mining and Real Application Testing optio



SQL> select count(*) cnt from et_data.members;

CNT
----------
6700000000

SQL> select count(*) * 100 * 12 as cnt from et_data.members;

CNT
-----------------
8.0400E+12

SQL> column cnt format 9,999,999,999,999,999
SQL> /

CNT
----------------------
8,040,000,000,000

SQL> select distinct count(country) as cnt from et_data.members;

CNT
-----------------
254

SQL>
SQL>EXIT

---------------With regard to office space----------

We have Regus available to us as needed
http://www.hq.com/go/officespace
They have 950 offices in 70 countries
We have no contract with them

---------The current balance in the trust as of yesterday is
$25.15 (that is $25 and 15 cents)

I will put more money in the trust in the years ahead. No rush.
----
The statement is that the trust "IS A" trillion dollar trust
not "HAS A" trillion dollars. There is a difference.

----
According to math.com compounding calculator at
http://www.math.com/students/calcula...e/compound.htm

If you take 10,000 do not add one penny to it

Let it bake for 300 years at 8%, it produces
244,611,941,663,788.30

at 6% the calculator says:
627,801,463,003.09

The numbers get much larger when I personally add just $10 per month extra to the pot.

I am not asking anyone but myself to contribute anything to this pot to make it grow to the size it can become.

However, people IN THE FUTURE, will be able to contribute to the fund, but I do not have the necessary infrastructure built yet.
I am still running it from my house for goodness sake.

-----You also did not mention
My original plans called for working with:
1. The World Health Organization
2. United Nations
3. Red Cross
and several other international organizations

I have since decided that they will be a hindrance more than help. Last month they were removed from the business plan.

----I will admit my words come off a bit strong
and I have since toned them down.
I was hoping they would help generate some support
but not the case.

--- With regards to the mylife brand.
Here is the latest.
My Life, Inc was a business I had 7-8 years ago if I remember right. It has been closed for a long time. We did computer staffing.
MyLife Consultants and Mylife Management, LLC's
were two companies that I ran up until about 2 years ago.

They were financially ruined by a manager of mine
named James Cornelius Smith. His bad acts forced me to
close the business and cost me and several of my customers
a lot of money.

I have pressed charges and their are 2 arrest warrants out for
him filed at the Hagerstown Police Department.
I also called and placed a report with the FBI. I have also heard
that he may have done some bad acts in small towns PA, FL.
He was a real con-man. I wish I would have known beforehand.
But his method seems to be to do stuff in small towns that don't get reported in the state databases.

It almost cost me my house, my marriage, my family.

---with regards to the google page
I tried to have them add my post to it several years ago,
but they have not. I will probably have to get a lawyer involved.

This is my email to google from a while ago:

From: Martin Vendemia
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:47 PM
To: answers-editors@google.com; Martin Vendemia
Subject:


To Whom It May Concern,

I just did a search on my name "Martin Vendemia" on google and found this message.

Subject: Not able to open website
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: jeanmanga-ga
List Price: $10.00 Posted: 08 Feb 2003 15:57 PST
Expires: 10 Mar 2003 15:57 PST
Question ID: 158909


I would like to be able to place a comment attached to this question. Please let me know how I can do this. I did create a google answer account.

My name and reputation is important to me, and this thread makes me appear to be a fraudulent type person.
MyLife Consultants and Guaranteed Millionaire were 2 names I had registered and websites I created and eventually took down for lack of public interest and demand.
As far as I am aware, I never collected one penny from anyone - and NEVER - I repeat NEVER did anything to hurt this person or any one financially or otherwise.

I can be reached at my email: mvendemia@hotmail.com and I ask this message to be added to this thread. I take this attack against my person and family seriously.

Thanks in advance,

Martin Vendemia

----as far as guaranteed millionaire program
It never took off. It was very simple in concept. Used by wall street all time. Put money away and don't touch it. Let it compound.
What did we do. Simple. We did not wan't your account invested with us, we recommend some brokerage account and buy some good index mutual funds.
People paid us to help keep them on financial track. Not investment advise, but to help them not close their account. To not find other things to do with your money. to not squander it on electronics. Pretty simple stuff. Basically we were a coach to keep you on track. Provided you put in some money into an account, not take any out, keep investing more into that account, and earn a respectable (just reasonable) in about 20-30 years you will have reached $1M.
It is not rocket science.
Well folks sorry to say. Business and website were very short lived. Never made any money, did however have some people give us email addresses to send them our newsletters.
I thought people might like to have someone help them reach an honest $1m without scams, trickery, or other foolishness.
Guess not.

[martinv]

Foot note to the above thread. That is my old email, it no longer works.

[madurobob]

Thanks for starting the thread Locknar. I wanted to give martinv another day or two to focus on proving his clairvoyance. But, his claims about Everytrust are much more extraordinary that his claims of clairvoyance, at least in my eyes.

I'm very curious about a trillion dollar multi-national non-profit based at a residential address and with a website that is nothing more than a single page billboard... listing a PO Box as its main contact point. Most of the google hits include mentions of "meetups" in Maryland.

Now, I'm all for starting a new businesses and stretching the truth a little to help drive growth is par for the course. But generally when people say "trillion dollar business" they mean either annual revenue or appraised asset value. Clearly martinv has a new and different definition and I hope he joins here to explain that concept.

[volatile]

" 4. The trust is based on a 1000 year time table"

:-O

"We have no other permanent office"

:-O

So when you said your trust had 950 offices and was worth a trillion dollars, you were basically lying?

[volatile]

Oh - and "The current balance in the trust as of yesterday is $25.15 (that is $25 and 15 cents)" and " 5. The actual trust exists as a legal document. a. The trust does list all 6.6+ billion people on the planet b. the beneficiaries are identified as a named set "people on the planet" both have me rolling around on the floor in stitches.

[madurobob]

Originally Posted by martinv

The statement is that the trust "IS A" trillion dollar trust not "HAS A" trillion dollars. There is a difference.

Oh, well, that explains a lot. I'm worth well over a bazillion dollars, too!

[martinv]

Originally Posted by volatile

So when you said your trust had 950 offices and was worth a trillion dollars, you were basically lying?

Having 950 offices to me means that I personally (or someone I hire) can go to any of 950 offices in which to work. Regus has 950 offices (don't they?). Sounds pretty clear to me.

As far as I know, I have not said "worth".
If I did specifically use that word, I will admit to being wrong.

I have tried to stay with the "IS A" because we do not have the account balances now, but should in the future based on compound interest.

If you find any such errors, please let me know.
It is important that they are corrected.
You can be my lookout. Glad to have you on my side.

[Locknar]

Well, I'm glad you (MartinV) cleared all that up....I'll let other folks decide "woo woo factor" and honesty wise *lol*.

[volatile]

Martin - your trust cannot in any reasonable, sensible or sound (or even legally valid) way, be termed "a trillion dollar trust". You have picked an arbitrary (and enormous!) time period, and an arbitrary rate of interest. You could just as well say your trust was $10 trillion, or even just $10, because the time period you have selected and the rate of interest you have used to do your calculations are plucked out of thin air.

The whole thing is absurd from start to finish.

As for the office space, if you have one staff member, you only have one office. Unless those 950 offices are staffed by people employed by you (or contracted on your behalf) you do not have 950 offices. This is manifestly obvious.

[martinv]

Originally Posted by volatile

Martin - your trust cannot in any reasonable, sensible or sound (or even legally valid) way, be termed "a trillion dollar trust". You have picked an arbitrary (and enormous!) time period, and an arbitrary rate of interest. You could just as well say your trust was $10 trillion, or even just $10, because the time period you have selected and the rate of interest you have used to do your calculations are plucked out of thin air.

The whole thing is absurd from start to finish.

As for the office space, if you have one staff member, you only have one office. Unless those 950 offices are staffed by people employed by you (or contracted on your behalf) you do not have 950 offices. This is manifestly obvious.

If you have a problem with the words I used thats fine.
I will not argue, you win. Whatever.

The trust exists.
An incorporated entity exists to manage that trust.
It has money now.
It will have more money deposited later.
That money will compound.
The members are named as I mentioned.
The accounts exist in a database.

Everything else is just noise.

[madurobob]

Originally Posted by martinv

I have tried to stay with the "IS A" because we do not have the account balances now, but should in the future based on compound interest.

You are right, all I've found is "IS A...". But, thats really not the point. The real point is why you chose that dollar amount when it requires such extreme assumptions to get there.

So martinv, honestly, why that dollar amount?

[madurobob]

Originally Posted by martinv

Everything else is just noise.

Exactly. The statement "is a trillion dollar non profit organization" is just noise, but noise with an intent to deceive.

[SezMe]

The John Jones Dollar

[volatile]

Originally Posted by martinv

Everything else is just noise.

Not at all, Martin. Everything else is truth, honesty, integrity, transparency, sense, logic, reason and ethics. I don't wish to be rude, but claiming that your $25 is a "multi-national, trillion dollar trust" shows you lack all of those things.

I have about GBP £10 in my pocket. If I put it in a bank account at 3% compound interest for a millenia, I will have £68,742,402,311,696.28, even without further additions.

When someone asks me how much money I have, is it reasonable, sensible, honest or wise to say I have a tenner, or £68 trillion?

I live and work in a building with over 300 rooms. I could, very easily, plug my laptop into the Ethernet points in any one of those rooms. Do I have 300 offices, or just one?

Who are you lying to, and why?

[humber]

Absolutely priceless.
Everytrust, a trillion dollar trust, IS A $25.25 trust.
Logical fallacy, ahoy.

[martinv]

Originally Posted by madurobob

You are right, all I've found is "IS A...". But, thats really not the point. The real point is why you chose that dollar amount when it requires such extreme assumptions to get there.

So martinv, honestly, why that dollar amount?

You tell me. Have you tried the calculator I posted?
Put 10,000 as the starting balance
Put 0 in the field for monthly deposit
Put 300 years in the year field
and YOU pick an interest rate.

Inflation is around 3-4%.
On average according to the SEC (if my memory serves)
Bonds pay around 6-7% long term average
Stocks pay around 12% long term.
The trust can stand the volatility of a heavier stock weighted portfolio with maybe 25% in bonds, 10% cash.

You pick an interest rate. Put it in the calculator and explain to me what value number you decide to call the trust in 300 years.

It is explained in detail in the book how I came up with figure. But I am curious to your value for 300 years.
Because I am not really too bothered about the first 100 years or so.

[volatile]

""a trillion dollar non-profit organization that provides health, education, food, housing, and employment benefits to all 6.6 billion people of the world, with 950 offices in 250 countries".

I note the distinct present tense in this sentence. How much of the $25 has gone to pay for health, education, food, housing or employment to date?

Why does it not say "will provide, in a thousand years"?

[martinv]

Originally Posted by volatile

""a trillion dollar non-profit organization that provides health, education, food, housing, and employment benefits to all 6.6 billion people of the world, with 950 offices in 250 countries".

I note the distinct present tense in this sentence. How much of the $25 has gone to pay for health, education, food, housing or employment to date?

Why does it not say "will provide, in a thousand years"?

Thanks for catching the typo. Where does it need to be fixed?

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I guess we all have to dream. But I generally do it while I'm asleep.

[volatile]

http://www.lulu.com/content/1073493

It also says you run "one of the largest organizations in the world". I am rapidly concluding that you are a two-bit scam merchant and that I should probably be reporting you to the appropriate authorities.

It's manifestly obvious this is not a typo. On the back cover of your own book, it says your organization "operates at the trillion-dollar level". Present tense. A trillion dollars. Now. This is a concerted, focussed and deliberate effort to con people.

If you lived in the UK, my letter would already have been despatched. As you live in the US and I am not totally sure who the relevant authorities are, I shall leave that task to someone else.

Frankly, you disgust me. How many of these $40 books have you sold, and how much personal profit have you made from the incredulity of others?

[madurobob]

Originally Posted by martinv

You tell me. Have you tried the calculator I posted?
Put 10,000 as the starting balance
Put 0 in the field for monthly deposit
Put 300 years in the year field
and YOU pick an interest rate.

Martinv, finance is my life.. I don't need to use the calculator to understand the effect of compound interest and time value of money. Something you need to understand, however, is a concept called "Net Present Value" or NPV. You cannot legitimately use Future Value to value your trust, you MUST use NPV. Your trust's NPV is about $25.

[thaiboxerken]

I think the most appropriate thing to do now is simply laugh at Martin.

[volatile]

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

I think the most appropriate thing to do now is simply laugh at Martin.

Way ahead of you, Ken.

[martinv]

Originally Posted by volatile

http://www.lulu.com/content/1073493

It also says you run "one of the largest organizations in the world". I am rapidly concluding that you are a two-bit scam merchant and that I should probably be reporting you to the appropriate authorities.

It's manifestly obvious this is not a typo. On the back cover of your own book, it says your organization "operates at the trillion-dollar level". Present tense. A trillion dollars. Now. This is a concerted, focussed and deliberate effort to con people.

If you lived in the UK, my letter would already have been despatched. As you live in the US and I am not totally sure who the relevant authorities are, I shall leave that task to someone else.

Frankly, you disgust me. How many of these $40 books have you sold, and how much personal profit have you made from the incredulity of others?

Thanks for catching this for me.
I thought I had clicked the private link
on lulu on these because I was still working on
the marketing stuff. It was way over the top.

Your comments have been very helpful.
About a month ago, I took off all the extra pages from the website that were just so over the top.
I think the site is 1 or 2 pages of the basics.
I have not had a chance to add more pages to the site yet.

As far as profit goes. None. Have not yet put a release date on them. Put them on the front page of the website expecting them to be out a long time ago. But have been too busy.

You guys are really helping me out. I totally forgot they were listed on the website. Thanks for reminding me.
You guys rock.

[Locknar]

Originally Posted by martinv

Thanks for catching this for me.
I thought I had clicked the private link
on lulu on these because I was still working on
the marketing stuff. It was way over the top.

Your comments have been very helpful.
About a month ago, I took off all the extra pages from the website that were just so over the top.
I think the site is 1 or 2 pages of the basics.
I have not had a chance to add more pages to the site yet.

As far as profit goes. None. Have not yet put a release date on them. Put them on the front page of the website expecting them to be out a long time ago. But have been too busy.

You guys are really helping me out. I totally forgot they were listed on the website. Thanks for reminding me.
You guys rock.

Right; which is why you are editing your pages and self publishing links since I brought all this up - to be honest, and correct mistakes *lol*

What I find really interesting:

Originally Posted by MartinV's Lulu self-publishing entry

Also a great book for the general public to gain a rare insight into the formation of one of the largest organizations in the world first hand from the founder Mr. Vendemia as it happens. Learn a secret formula that will revolutionize the world of economics. Mr. Vendemia looks at some of the big picture elements of global economics and finance with an organization that operates at the trillion dollar level.

So to be clear, you've claimed:
- To be "one of the largest organizations in the world", yet have no offices, no contracts, and $25 in the "bank"
- You claim you operate "at the trillion dollar level", again with only $25 in "the bank".

I see....sounds completely honest and above board to me. Thanks for clearing all that up.

[martinv]

Originally Posted by Locknar

Right; which is why you are editing your pages and self publishing links since I brought all this up - to be honest, and correct mistakes *lol*

Yes. I understand this place is filled with skeptics.
And the skeptical point of view is that most people are crooks, scam artists, and such.

I have always tried to be an honest straight forward person. Doing honest business.
I have had my own businesses since I was 18.
I have always used my home address in my businesses.
Do a dns search, you see my websites list my HOME address.
If you do a state or federal search on any company of mine you will see my home address.

I take pride in my businesses and my projects. Sure I may get a little boastful in my early drafts. It helps me get my thoughts together. But those drafts are not supposed to be in the public. The final product which has all that crud cut out is what is supposed to be out there.

I fixed lulu and the everytrust website. Thank everyone for the help in doing these searches. If you find any more let me know so I can fix them. You are a big help.

I wish I would have known that you guys do this kind of digging. It would have saved me so much time. Nice.

[thaiboxerken]

Originally Posted by martinv

And the skeptical point of view is that most people are crooks, scam artists, and such. I agree.

Actually, most people are not crooks and scam artists. I see you as one of those who aren't most people. You are one of those people who seems to have the sole purpose of using up precious oxygen in the world.

[martinv]

Quote:

...the formation of one of the largest organizations in the world...as it happens

and you said

Quote:

So to be clear, you've claimed:
- To be "one of the largest organizations in the world"

Anybody see a problem with the second quote compared to the first.

The books are journals 'Everytrust Journal' that record the development of the organization as it happens.
I have already said big money happens later, not now.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm trying to decide if this guy is a con-artist or a nut.

[JoeTheJuggler]

Amazing!

Kudos to Locknar for starting this thread. I am prepared to give people the benefit of the doubt, but MartinV, you've lost that benefit.

And I can't believe that after being caught in several flagrant undeniable lies, you're still acting like it was some sort of honest mistake. Gee fellas, I appreciate your help! Yeah right.

You've been busted, my friend. Caught red-handed in a some real whoppers! (I must say "lulu" was an appropriate name for the page of lulus you just removed.)

So what about the back cover of the book?

[martinv]

I am not going to waste any more time in this post.

I will check back in a couple of weeks and see if anyone found any more typos to fix.

Tomorrow you can find me again in my regular "skeptic tests" page
and we can get back on track for testing

[Locknar]

Originally Posted by martinv

Anybody see a problem with the second quote compared to the first.

I don't see a problem at all, though will gladly correct any errors.

The quote from your Lulu page is accurate; the way you have it written, "formation" is used to indicate past tense....as in the formation is complete and the organization exists.

If you meant to imply the formation is on-going, then I suggest you edit/re-write your entry. Your ambiguous use of words, and their interpretation, is not an error on my part.

Originally Posted by martinv

I am not going to waste any more time in this post.

I will check back in a couple of weeks and see if anyone found any more typos to fix.

Tomorrow you can find me again in my regular "skeptic tests" page
and we can get back on track for testing

So you've gone from "this feedback is great, I appreciate everyone's help" (my paraphrase) to this; going to take your toys and go home?

That said, I look forward to your return to the other threads, such as the test (still waiting for you to get back to me on the "calibration" stuff) and the ever present question on the "orbs" (in a seperate thread as you asked).

[martinv]

Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler

So what about the back cover of the book?

Sorry I saw this one after I hit send about not coming back.

The back of the finished book is black.
I think you picked up a draft.

I will check this post again in March.

[Locknar]

Originally Posted by martinv

Sorry I saw this one after I hit send about not coming back.

The back of the finished book is black.
I think you picked up a draft.

I will check this post again in March.

The back cover that JJ and others have referenced is what you posted on Lulu...if it is a draft, that is because you put it there.

Ignoring this thread until March won't make it go away, or help in terms of your credibility. Speaking of credibility, folks might be interested in this from the Wayback Machine. From that site:

Originally Posted by Wayback Machine "My Life Consultants"

I was asked to become a chairman on a congressional small business advisory committee headed by congressman Tom Davis to work on both congressional and President Bush's small business initiatives. As we get more press, people will realize that is not some scheme....

Did this press ever happen? I think folks here would be very interested in what this commettee did, your final report, etc.

For that matter, why would a Representative from VA ask you, from MD, to be on this committee? Looking at Rep Davis' website, I didn't see any mention of this committee...but I'm sure I just missed it & you'll clear this right up.

[thaiboxerken]

Originally Posted by The Central Scrutinizer

I'm trying to decide if this guy is a con-artist or a nut.

Both.