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14th February 2003, 07:03 AM

For the moment, let's assume that for whatever reason, the current Iraqi government falls.

What steps, if any, should be taken, and by whom? For example, should an international force provide structure and stability while a new Iraqi system is formed? Should the Iraqi National Congress play a role? The UN?

Again, I'm not making any pro/anti-war statement, just pondering a possible future.

thoughts?

14th February 2003, 08:03 AM

I believe that it should be left up to a coalition of Middle Eastern nations to help with the transition. The US should not be involved, except for funding if needed.

They should put an interim government in place to hold the peace, and have general elections when the country is stable enough. The World Court will probably have to hold some trials and that might cause some problems.

Samus · 14th February 2003, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hal bidlack
What steps, if any, should be taken, and by whom? For example, should an international force provide structure and stability while a new Iraqi system is formed? Should the Iraqi National Congress play a role? The UN?

I think we will find leaders that are semi-friendly to U.S. intervention, and try to put them in power. They will come from one of the anti-Saddam factions within Iraq. We will funnel all kinds of money, supplies and manpower to assist in setting up the new government. The U.N. will also be involved, assisting with the peacekeeping forces that will need to be there initially. They will also provide humanitarian relief, though they will mostly get in the way.

Then, in 15 years, we will grow tired of what that government has become and bomb the crap out of them.

Just a guess, I own no crystal ball.

Soubrette · 14th February 2003, 08:10 AM

In my opinion....

this thread belongs in the current affairs/politics section

Sou

Mel · 14th February 2003, 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by Denise
The US should not be involved, except for funding if needed.

It's fine for the US to send money to various countries but we will always remain infidels by their standards?

Better yet..... let Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other oil rich countries help their Muslim neighbors.

Of course, this would mean they'd have to funnel off some money from their Anti-Western education propoganda programs but I'm sure they'll manage to survive.

14th February 2003, 08:35 AM

yup, my bad, started it in the wrong forum, off to politics it goes

aerocontrols · 14th February 2003, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Denise
I believe that it should be left up to a coalition of Middle Eastern nations to help with the transition. The US should not be involved, except for funding if needed.

They should put an interim government in place to hold the peace, and have general elections when the country is stable enough. The World Court will probably have to hold some trials and that might cause some problems.

Mubarak, King Abdullah, King Fahd, and Bashi Assad should be put in charge of establishing a democracy in Iraq?

MattJ

subgenius · 14th February 2003, 09:29 AM

Plan: US general to run Iraq
In Ankara and Washington, the US outlined its plans for a post-Hussein Iraq. Some Iraqi opposition leaders object.
By Cameron W. Barr | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

SULAYMANIYAH, IRAQ - The head of the US military's Central Command, Gen. Tommy Franks, will rule Iraq in the initial aftermath of a US invasion to overthrow President Saddam Hussein.

Administration officials briefed senators Tuesday on postwar planning, stressing that the US goal is "to liberate Iraq, not to occupy it," and last week a US envoy told leaders of Iraqi groups opposed to Hussein about American intentions.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0213/p01s03-woiq.html

14th February 2003, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aerocontrols

Mubarak, King Abdullah, King Fahd, and Bashi Assad should be put in charge of establishing a democracy in Iraq?

MattJ

Well, it's better than nothing. If the US is too involved I see nothing but more problems. Yes, I realize that most Middle Eastern nations are none too democratic.

Peter S. · 14th February 2003, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by hal bidlack
yup, my bad, started it in the wrong forum, off to politics it goes

Why not start another thread in Banter complaining that your thread was moved? Perhaps a poll or two would be appropriate, and don't forget the caps!

14th February 2003, 07:03 AM	#1
hal bidlack Guest Posts: n/a	Post-whatever Iraq? For the moment, let's assume that for whatever reason, the current Iraqi government falls. What steps, if any, should be taken, and by whom? For example, should an international force provide structure and stability while a new Iraqi system is formed? Should the Iraqi National Congress play a role? The UN? Again, I'm not making any pro/anti-war statement, just pondering a possible future. thoughts?
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14th February 2003, 08:03 AM	#2
Guest Posts: n/a	I believe that it should be left up to a coalition of Middle Eastern nations to help with the transition. The US should not be involved, except for funding if needed. They should put an interim government in place to hold the peace, and have general elections when the country is stable enough. The World Court will probably have to hold some trials and that might cause some problems.
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14th February 2003, 08:08 AM	#3
Samus space hunter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,003	Re: Post-whatever Iraq? Quote: Originally posted by hal bidlack What steps, if any, should be taken, and by whom? For example, should an international force provide structure and stability while a new Iraqi system is formed? Should the Iraqi National Congress play a role? The UN? I think we will find leaders that are semi-friendly to U.S. intervention, and try to put them in power. They will come from one of the anti-Saddam factions within Iraq. We will funnel all kinds of money, supplies and manpower to assist in setting up the new government. The U.N. will also be involved, assisting with the peacekeeping forces that will need to be there initially. They will also provide humanitarian relief, though they will mostly get in the way. Then, in 15 years, we will grow tired of what that government has become and bomb the crap out of them. Just a guess, I own no crystal ball.
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14th February 2003, 08:11 AM	#5
Mel Muse Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 552	Quote: Originally posted by Denise The US should not be involved, except for funding if needed. It's fine for the US to send money to various countries but we will always remain infidels by their standards? Better yet..... let Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other oil rich countries help their Muslim neighbors. Of course, this would mean they'd have to funnel off some money from their Anti-Western education propoganda programs but I'm sure they'll manage to survive.
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14th February 2003, 08:35 AM	#6
hal bidlack Guest Posts: n/a	yup, my bad, started it in the wrong forum, off to politics it goes
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14th February 2003, 08:10 AM	#4
Soubrette The Philosophy Spice Girl Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 671	In my opinion.... this thread belongs in the current affairs/politics section Sou

14th February 2003, 08:56 AM	#7
aerocontrols Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,445	Quote: Originally posted by Denise I believe that it should be left up to a coalition of Middle Eastern nations to help with the transition. The US should not be involved, except for funding if needed. They should put an interim government in place to hold the peace, and have general elections when the country is stable enough. The World Court will probably have to hold some trials and that might cause some problems. Mubarak, King Abdullah, King Fahd, and Bashi Assad should be put in charge of establishing a democracy in Iraq? MattJ
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14th February 2003, 09:29 AM	#8
subgenius Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,788	Plan: US general to run Iraq In Ankara and Washington, the US outlined its plans for a post-Hussein Iraq. Some Iraqi opposition leaders object. By Cameron W. Barr \| Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor SULAYMANIYAH, IRAQ - The head of the US military's Central Command, Gen. Tommy Franks, will rule Iraq in the initial aftermath of a US invasion to overthrow President Saddam Hussein. Administration officials briefed senators Tuesday on postwar planning, stressing that the US goal is "to liberate Iraq, not to occupy it," and last week a US envoy told leaders of Iraqi groups opposed to Hussein about American intentions. http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0213/p01s03-woiq.html
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14th February 2003, 09:50 AM	#9
Guest Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally posted by aerocontrols Mubarak, King Abdullah, King Fahd, and Bashi Assad should be put in charge of establishing a democracy in Iraq? MattJ Well, it's better than nothing. If the US is too involved I see nothing but more problems. Yes, I realize that most Middle Eastern nations are none too democratic.
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14th February 2003, 10:33 AM	#10
Peter S. Magician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arlington, MA Posts: 864	Quote: Originally posted by hal bidlack yup, my bad, started it in the wrong forum, off to politics it goes Why not start another thread in Banter complaining that your thread was moved? Perhaps a poll or two would be appropriate, and don't forget the caps!
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