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Soapy Sam · 11th July 2008, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by beeksc1

No offence is taken by me, I hope you feel the same

Overstanding

Even though it’s pretty clear, you have to look

Let me reiterate,

Maybe the point is that what we do (actions, behaviors, thought patterns) is both insignificant and significant simultaneously.

Can you share other examples where pieces of art satirize themselves?

Exactly, Colbert report is hilarious
His stuff on Wikiality is pretty comical

Not including this thread?

Piscivore · 11th July 2008, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by beeksc1

Projection? (I only feel obligated to include this kind of input when an individual is looking to exploit, agitate, or design disharmony.) Or if this is off, what is your point for posting as such

www.principiadiscordia.com

Quote:

Swim is unsure as to how you got that impression. and Swim values a community that engages in intellectual forums. even if all the people cannot entirely agree on all topics; most of the members pursue an approach of agreeableness.

Piscivore suggests "Swim" lay off the pot. "Agreeableness" and intelligence are oft incompatible. If each human being is unique, then in order to be "agreeable" one or both of them must surrender up a little bit of themselves, right?

Quote:

As Peter Tosh and Marley say,
"we are sick and tired of your -ism schism game."

"Swim is unsure", "Swim values", "Peter Tosh and Marley say"... What does Beeks say?

Eris says:

Quote:

One day Mal-2 asked the messenger spirit Saint Gulik to approach the Goddess and request Her presence for some desperate advice. Shortly afterwards the radio came on by itself, and an ethereal female Voice said YES?

"O! Eris! Blessed Mother of Man! Queen of Chaos! Daughter of Discord! Concubine of Confusion! O! Exquisite Lady, I beseech You to lift a heavy burden from my heart!"

WHAT BOTHERS YOU, MAL? YOU DON'T SOUND WELL.

"I am filled with fear and tormented with terrible visions of pain. Everywhere people are hurting one another, the planet is rampant with injustices, whole societies plunder groups of their own people, mothers imprison sons, children perish while brothers war. O, woe."

WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THAT, IF IT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?

"But nobody wants it! Everybody hates it."

OH. WELL, THEN STOP.

At which moment She turned herself into an aspirin commercial and left The Polyfather stranded alone with his species.

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That is, there are so many philosophies and ideologies that aim to divide the masses and disenfranchise a person;

How can a person be enfranchised when he is part of a mass?

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perhaps, the seasoned posters should welcome the newer members

We do. We have a whole thread for it.

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And if you want to that approach; you have the freedom to do so.

If I don't choose that approach, do I lose the freedom to use it?

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Other people might suggest an approach that strives to recognize similarities, instead of harping on the differences we share.

Well done.

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I know that the vast majority of members of this forum are intelligent and have something notable to offer

"thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ass, therefore remove thine proboscis from it."

thesyntaxera · 13th July 2008, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Liszt

I just googled "beeksc1" and the first link that came up was the UK Drugs Forum. lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis

Quote:

Formal thought disorder describes an underlying disturbance to conscious thought and is classified largely by its effects on speech and writing. Affected persons may show pressure of speech (speaking incessantly and quickly), derailment or flight of ideas (switching topic mid-sentence or inappropriately), thought blocking, and rhyming or punning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_...ypes_in_detail

calebprime · 13th July 2008, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Piscivore

www.principiadiscordia.com

Piscivore suggests "Swim" lay off the pot.

cp seconds.

dudalb · 14th July 2008, 10:59 AM

Satire is often misunderstood.
A prime example is the current flap over the New Yorker cover on Obama.

Cuddles · 15th July 2008, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by beeksc1

I know that the vast majority of members of this forum are intelligent and have something notable to offer

Unfortunately, some of them aren't and don't. Think about it.

Incidentally, are you sure English is your first language?

beeksc1 · 16th July 2008, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Piscivore

Piscivore suggests "Swim" lay off the pot.

Originally Posted by calebprime

Piscivore suggests "Swim" lay off the pot.
cp seconds.

Hey ya'll, please refrain from false accusations that pertain to cannabis.
How can I lay off the cannabis, when I do not smoke cannabis?

Is making false accusations: against the forum rules?
especially those insinuations that pertain to practices that are "outlawed"?

and please if you are going to refer to the sativa/indica herb; you might want to note it as cannabis. instead of "referencing" the pejorative term, Swim (

) likes / I like to call it by its accurate name.

Cannabis is benign sounding, just like the herb itself; generally, "pot" carries negative connotations. and plus, it just does not sound intelligent.
green / herb / bud is also neutral...

Originally Posted by Piscivore

"Swim is unsure", "Swim values", "Peter Tosh and Marley say"... What does Beeks say?

Man, Swim realizes that most of the perspective that he have to pass on has been uncovered by historic figures that have come before us.

I do not let my "sence of self" interfere with what I have to share; can you relate?

Originally Posted by thesyntaxera

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_...ypes_in_detail

Weak.
Projection?

The posters who have nothing to add to the current thread, which concerns satire and how it is used in modern culture / comedy, please refrain from good-for-nothing posts.

Swim thought that derailing a topic opposed the forum rules.

To derail:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/derail

Originally Posted by Cuddles

Unfortunately, some of them aren't and don't. Think about it.
Incidentally, are you sure English is your first language?

Swim realizes that all the people who post on the forum are not the most intelligent, quick-witted, and/or wise persons around, even some of the members who have 1,000 / 5,000+ posts; yet most of the people who I enjoy discussions with are well-informed and seekers of truth.

Favorite Composers thread
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=108240

Yea, brother man, English is my first language.

A. Words are tricky
B. Someone who I met (SWIM) does not care to edit his posts.
C. I not take myself too seriously (because then...); nevertheless, I do take myself seriously.

Swim uses the forum to discuss intellectual concerns, move forward his perspective, and engage in endeavors that are meaningful; etc.

Originally Posted by dudalb

Satire is often misunderstood.
A prime example is the current flap over the New Yorker cover on Obama.

McCain denonuces New Yorker's Obama cartoon
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv...011:09:00%20PM

Originally Posted by NDTV.com

Republican presidential candidate John McCain has denounced a satirical cartoon on the cover of the New Yorker magazine depicting Barack Obama in Islamic dress beside a burning US flag in the Oval Office though the weekly defended the ''satire'' and ''spirit'' behind the caricature.
...

Foolmewunz · 16th July 2008, 11:28 PM

Beeks, I speak a few languages and work in a polyglot world over here, but none of them allow me to make a whole lot of sense of what you're saying. Is there a book I could get, something like Teh Bibble Code, that would tell me which words have other meanings, and how many letters to take off of other words?

You keep mentioning satire and then throwing in references to broad-stroke comedians.

I've come equipped, however... you keep tossing out those clay pigeons, and we'll go after 'em. Me and trusty old Paint, here. Always ready to go to the limits in the search of satire.

beeksc1 · 17th July 2008, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

Beeks, I speak a few languages and work in a polyglot world over here, but none of them allow me to make a whole lot of sense of what you're saying.

Oh really? perhaps that is ironic. Swim apologizes that English is filled with idioms.

Just getting back to the topic of satire...

If you are unable to understand / comprehend satirical comedy; just dance instead. (Someone who I met (Swim) has already posted it before.)

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

You keep mentioning satire and then throwing in references to broad-stroke comedians.

Perhaps, you are off; Just looking to discuss the topic at hand.

Satire!

Swim apologizes that he might often communicate in idioms; but, the language of English is filled with...

Quote:

terms or phrases whose meaning cannot be deduced from the literal definitions and the arrangement of its parts, but refers instead to a figurative meaning that is known only through common use.

~ Wiki

If a person wants to precisely communicate in English, it is almost impossible to not use the colloquial phrases...

Yea, anyway, Satire...

So, "poking fun" at the relevant topic is ideally supposed to bring about improvement.

South Park
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_park

11th July 2008, 04:12 PM	#81
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,907	Originally Posted by beeksc1 No offence is taken by me, I hope you feel the same Overstanding Even though it’s pretty clear, you have to look Let me reiterate, Maybe the point is that what we do (actions, behaviors, thought patterns) is both insignificant and significant simultaneously. Can you share other examples where pieces of art satirize themselves? Exactly, Colbert report is hilarious His stuff on Wikiality is pretty comical Not including this thread?
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,907

11th July 2008, 05:52 PM	#82
Piscivore Smelling fishy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home is wherever I'm with you Posts: 26,561	Originally Posted by beeksc1 Projection? (I only feel obligated to include this kind of input when an individual is looking to exploit, agitate, or design disharmony.) Or if this is off, what is your point for posting as such www.principiadiscordia.com Quote: Swim is unsure as to how you got that impression. and Swim values a community that engages in intellectual forums. even if all the people cannot entirely agree on all topics; most of the members pursue an approach of agreeableness. Piscivore suggests "Swim" lay off the pot. "Agreeableness" and intelligence are oft incompatible. If each human being is unique, then in order to be "agreeable" one or both of them must surrender up a little bit of themselves, right? Quote: As Peter Tosh and Marley say, "we are sick and tired of your -ism schism game." "Swim is unsure", "Swim values", "Peter Tosh and Marley say"... What does Beeks say? Eris says: Quote: One day Mal-2 asked the messenger spirit Saint Gulik to approach the Goddess and request Her presence for some desperate advice. Shortly afterwards the radio came on by itself, and an ethereal female Voice said YES? "O! Eris! Blessed Mother of Man! Queen of Chaos! Daughter of Discord! Concubine of Confusion! O! Exquisite Lady, I beseech You to lift a heavy burden from my heart!" WHAT BOTHERS YOU, MAL? YOU DON'T SOUND WELL. "I am filled with fear and tormented with terrible visions of pain. Everywhere people are hurting one another, the planet is rampant with injustices, whole societies plunder groups of their own people, mothers imprison sons, children perish while brothers war. O, woe." WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THAT, IF IT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? "But nobody wants it! Everybody hates it." OH. WELL, THEN STOP. At which moment She turned herself into an aspirin commercial and left The Polyfather stranded alone with his species. Quote: That is, there are so many philosophies and ideologies that aim to divide the masses and disenfranchise a person; How can a person be enfranchised when he is part of a mass? Quote: perhaps, the seasoned posters should welcome the newer members We do. We have a whole thread for it. Quote: And if you want to that approach; you have the freedom to do so. If I don't choose that approach, do I lose the freedom to use it? Quote: Other people might suggest an approach that strives to recognize similarities, instead of harping on the differences we share. Well done. Quote: I know that the vast majority of members of this forum are intelligent and have something notable to offer "thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ass, therefore remove thine proboscis from it."
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13th July 2008, 01:29 PM	#84
calebprime Somewhat Elitist Parasite Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,764	Originally Posted by Piscivore www.principiadiscordia.com Piscivore suggests "Swim" lay off the pot. cp seconds.
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15th July 2008, 08:23 AM	#86
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,672	Originally Posted by beeksc1 I know that the vast majority of members of this forum are intelligent and have something notable to offer Unfortunately, some of them aren't and don't. Think about it. Incidentally, are you sure English is your first language?
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16th July 2008, 11:28 PM	#88
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 20,878	Beeks, I speak a few languages and work in a polyglot world over here, but none of them allow me to make a whole lot of sense of what you're saying. Is there a book I could get, something like Teh Bibble Code, that would tell me which words have other meanings, and how many letters to take off of other words? You keep mentioning satire and then throwing in references to broad-stroke comedians. I've come equipped, however... you keep tossing out those clay pigeons, and we'll go after 'em. Me and trusty old Paint, here. Always ready to go to the limits in the search of satire.
	__________________ Ha! Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Hokulele Don't you wish someone had slapped baby Hitler really really hard? [i] Dr. Buzzo 02/13 [i]

13th July 2008, 12:38 PM	#83
thesyntaxera Muse Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 882	Originally Posted by Liszt I just googled "beeksc1" and the first link that came up was the UK Drugs Forum. lol. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis Quote: Formal thought disorder describes an underlying disturbance to conscious thought and is classified largely by its effects on speech and writing. Affected persons may show pressure of speech (speaking incessantly and quickly), derailment or flight of ideas (switching topic mid-sentence or inappropriately), thought blocking, and rhyming or punning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_...ypes_in_detail

14th July 2008, 10:59 AM	#85
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23,023	Satire is often misunderstood. A prime example is the current flap over the New Yorker cover on Obama.

17th July 2008, 12:32 AM	#89
beeksc1 A holographic observer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In the here and now Posts: 321	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz Beeks, I speak a few languages and work in a polyglot world over here, but none of them allow me to make a whole lot of sense of what you're saying. Oh really? perhaps that is ironic. Swim apologizes that English is filled with idioms. Just getting back to the topic of satire... If you are unable to understand / comprehend satirical comedy; just dance instead. (Someone who I met (Swim) has already posted it before.) Originally Posted by Foolmewunz You keep mentioning satire and then throwing in references to broad-stroke comedians. Perhaps, you are off; Just looking to discuss the topic at hand. Satire! Swim apologizes that he might often communicate in idioms; but, the language of English is filled with... Quote: terms or phrases whose meaning cannot be deduced from the literal definitions and the arrangement of its parts, but refers instead to a figurative meaning that is known only through common use. ~ Wiki If a person wants to precisely communicate in English, it is almost impossible to not use the colloquial phrases... Yea, anyway, Satire... So, "poking fun" at the relevant topic is ideally supposed to bring about improvement. South Park http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_park