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Olowkow · 22nd March 2008, 04:14 PM

The fact is that no one here really knows whether Brendy is mentally ill or not. He is a functioning human being. And he has found an anonymous outlet for his thoughts, and appears to enjoy it, as do the posters. I find his insights rather intriguing and fairly well written on the whole. So what if he is "posing", it just doesn't impact anyone else but him. Perhaps more time should be spent guiding him to places like "stopsylvia", to show him that others have similar beliefs.
That he has not commented on a video I posted earlier makes me wonder if perhaps that wasn't indeed he who made it. There cannot be that many Brendy's in Vermont. If so, it is a real insight.

articulett · 22nd March 2008, 04:46 PM

You're right. I bet it is him. Here's the link for those who are interested. If so, he is certainly creative and multi talented. http://www.vimeo.com/674964

I hope he stays in touch. He has certainly inspired discussion. I'm interested in knowing more myself.

Miss Whiplash · 22nd March 2008, 04:58 PM

That certainly is a great video. Nice Pride parade too.

The man has a good eye. I hope he will do more with his talent.

Apology · 22nd March 2008, 05:07 PM

I used to have sympathy for the mentally ill on this forum. I was so polite and so sweet, and even asked others to not be so harsh, just as dancing david is doing right now.

That's before George Simpson tried to sue me for suggesting that he get help. No good deed goes unpunished. I believe Locknar was also one of the Simpson 15. None of us that were involved with that fiasco will ever look at mentally ill trolls the same way ever again. Personally I will not bother with kid gloves, since the kid gloves got me no less sued the last time.

I learned a valuable lesson from those ET Corn Gods.

articulett · 22nd March 2008, 05:26 PM

What became of that?

With paranoid people, everyone is "out to get them" or "trying to make them think they are crazy". I suspect there are multiple forum members who have such leanings.

Apology · 22nd March 2008, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by articulett

What became of that?

With paranoid people, everyone is "out to get them" or "try to make them think they are crazy". I suspect there are multiple forum members who have such leanings.

George was unable to serve us, the named posters, properly because he was unable to find our Anti-Corn Clubhouse, so that part of his suit was dismissed by the judge. He continued with his suit against the JREF until the opponents in his many other lawsuits began discovering links to the JREF suit and its wild accusations, of which his opponents properly took full advantage. He dropped his suit against the JREF when it became too embarrassing, but it would not surprise me if we heard from George again some day.

articulett · 22nd March 2008, 05:38 PM

It sounds like a good time was had by all.

Locknar · 22nd March 2008, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler

You're still tossing around "schizophrenia" and "bi-polar" yourself, and your qualifications to offer diagnosis over a message board is that you've had friends with these diseases? (If that's the qualification you're after, I doubt anyone here is NOT qualified.)

But unlike me (and perhaps others), he's a expert...so its ok.

Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler

I have no problem with, for example, Bruto's post (above) making a case that Brendy is not a troll. His argument might even change my mind. However, that's not the same as saying it's inappropriate to discuss the possibility.

Well...while Bruto's post did not win me over (so to speak), I respect his opinion. In the end the unfalsifiable nature of all of Brendy's claims still have me convinced he's a troll. That said, if Brendy is truly sincerer then he should seek professional help (of course, last time I suggested this I and others were sued) as he won't get that here on a Internet forum.

I'd offer further comment, but I've already been labeled as "double shame full [sic]" for making unknown "bold claims", and/or being abusive, and do not want to risk further admonishment.

Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler

FWIW, I think the moderators do a fine job of moderating these days.

Hands down, 100% complete agreement...except for Lisa (who must be blamed)

PS - And yes, Lisa does a fine job too

Apology · 22nd March 2008, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Locknar

That said, if Brendy is truly sincerer then he should seek professional help (of course, last time I suggested this I and others were sued) as he won't get that here on a Internet forum.

We are Children of the Corn, brother.

Dancing David · 23rd March 2008, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler

Right, and I thought you said it was shameful for anyone who is not a mental health care professional to argue about diagnoses.

I suppose that might be what it looks like, I was responding emotionally for sure, I was mainly pointing out that people who did not have a background were arguing on the sincerity of Brendy. And that others were being abusive. If you feel that i made the statement you attribute to me then i would be in error and I apologise.

Is 35million people, actually more like 70 million in the US who could potentialy exhibit psychosis enough that there is a good chance someone is sincere?

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I believe I've pointed out that even a qualified professional has no business trying to treat someone via a message board.

I think you would have to strech my sattements rather far to get that I was trying to treat Brendy.

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Did you not say the following?

And if you want I can PM you my history, it is one the board and some here on this thread. Or we can discuss it here if you wish.

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You're still tossing around "schizophrenia" and "bi-polar" yourself, and your qualifications to offer diagnosis over a message board is that you've had friends with these diseases? (If that's the qualification you're after, I doubt anyone here is NOT qualified.)

Um, I also can tell you my history, I mentioned four possible illness that could potentially cause the symtoms Brendy is allegedly presenting, and some others. I did noy say "you are faking a text book case of schizophrenia", did I?

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Didn't you also say the following?

It is here on the JREF and in this thread, I will discuss it here if you wish, or in a PM

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I've pretty much stated in every post that this forum is not an appropriate place for someone to turn to for mental health advice. It's a skeptic's forum.

It is a good place to discuss things however, not to get expert or even accurate advice.

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I don't see how it's inappropriate for people to discuss possible explanations for Brendy's very strange posts. I've clumped them into three groups (mental illness, troll, or paranormal phenomena), and I think all three would be valid for discussion on this forum. Who are you to say any of them aren't legitimate?

When there is a significant number of people (70 million in the USA) at a minimum who could exhibit the presentation Brendy was giving, how appropriate is it for people to guess that they are faking it?

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I have no problem with, for example, Bruto's post (above) making a case that Brendy is not a troll. His argument might even change my mind. However, that's not the same as saying it's inappropriate to discuss the possibility.

Fair enough. I think the mocking and abuse is to be expected. It's an anonymous forum. Anyone can join for the price of an e-mail address. Brendy's OP was really bizarre.

Not that bizarre, when you consider the millions of people who have those kinds of experiences, it is POV I guess, but for you bizarre)

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Even the thread title is strange--and accuses everyone here of being in a conspiracy or something. I'd be surprised if Brendy didn't expect to get some mocking and abuse--even if he is being completely sincere.

FWIW, I think the moderators do a fine job of moderating these days.

They have the whole time I have been here.

Dancing David · 23rd March 2008, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by Locknar

But unlike me (and perhaps others), he's a expert...so its ok.

Locknar, I don't recall acting like you did , so perhaps you can show me the posts where I did? Where did I argue about diagnosis or abuse Brendy?

I am sorry if you got sued by some whacko, that would be a bitter drink in deed.

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Well...while Bruto's post did not win me over (so to speak), I respect his opinion. In the end the unfalsifiable nature of all of Brendy's claims still have me convinced he's a troll.

Have you met lots of the millions of people who have a psychotic disorder? The unfalsifiable claims abound and so I don't see that as a criteria?

Stop Blaming Lisa! :grrrr:

Senex · 23rd March 2008, 05:15 AM

All this hand wringing about Brendy's mental health has passed the point of being funny. The guy wanted a little attention and he created a bizarre post on our site and -- KA-CHING! He has at this point eight pages worth of posts all about him and his ideas. I thought I hit a home run when a post about kneeling/not kneeling at Catholic services hit three pages. This is eight pages all about him. It's the high point of his day when sits at his computer and reads what people are saying here about him. That's not to be confused about what the people are whispering about him on the back of the bus and when he walks by them on the street. That talk about him is an entirely different matter.

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articulett said:With paranoid people, everyone is "out to get them" or "trying to make them think they are crazy". I suspect there are multiple forum members who have such leanings.

My lawyers and I have been waiting for someone to come out and be willing to name names. Please stay at home today. The subpeana guy is on his way. You will make a great witness if you wear that little black dress

Dancing David · 23rd March 2008, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Locknar

I'd have to say troll at this point; to many things that don't make sense (to paraphrase Brendy):

- I'm a skeptic, but I'm being telepathically controlled
- Friends, family, etc. can use my body as their own except when I don’t allow it
- Friends, family, etc. can read my mind, but I can fool them (ie. lie) and keep secrets
- I could prove telepathy is real, but I don’t want to
- Textbook symptoms of schizophrenia
- Far too many “self answering” questions/issues:
-- I’ve seen doctors, they didn't/can’t help me
-- Stories/situations that cannot (and will not) be proven…such as post #109

All in all, very Mayday like with all the contradictions and "self answering" items.

Locknar, here is what I was referencing as bold claims, i was way over the top and very judgemental and rude.

However if you hung out with many people with psychotic disorders you would find that they all pretty much can act this way (and oh so much more), so I don't see how this would show that they are a troll or faking it.

articulett · 23rd March 2008, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Senex

All this hand wringing about Brendy's mental health has passed the point of being funny. The guy wanted a little attention and he created a bizarre post on our site and -- KA-CHING! He has at this point eight pages worth of posts all about him and his ideas. I thought I hit a home run when a post about kneeling/not kneeling at Catholic services hit three pages. This is eight pages all about him. It's the high point of his day when sits at his computer and reads what people are saying here about him. That's not to be confused about what the people are whispering about him on the back of the bus and when he walks by them on the street. That talk about him is an entirely different matter.

My lawyers and I have been waiting for someone to come out and be willing to name names. Please stay at home today. The subpeana guy is on his way. You will make a great witness if you wear that little black dress

Subpoena-- you forgot the O... it counts against you. I'm a nudist.

quarky · 23rd March 2008, 05:09 PM

I don't know and don't really care if Brendy is a troll or not, but I find it curious that his possible legitimacy is because he demonstrates classic, text-book symptoms.

If one of us was wanting to play a game here; posing as bi-polar, or worse, we'd likely look up the text-book for tips on how to behave.

Deception can run so deep sometimes, it ought to be its own mental illness, instead of just good advertizing strategy.

not to be overly ironic,
but trolls need help as much as the next nut-case.

Brendy · 24th March 2008, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by articulett

Smell hallucinations are common with a particular type of seizure... this really sound neurological... and having smell hallucinations might help them figure things out.

http://personal.ecu.edu/wuenschk/parosmia.htm
http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/...cinations.html
http://www.psychtreatment.com/schizo...ucinations.htm
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/hallucinations.htm

Here's an an excellent video from TEDtalks (18 minutes) that you might find interesting.
ttp://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/229

The youtube video was good. I think about 1 in 100 people have schizophrenia-- and it can come and go and there are some new medications that don't have the side effects of the older ones.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/sznews/...es/005992.html

It sounds hellish. Let us know how things go. You can teach us how to recognize and respond to other people who are experiencing what you are experiencing.

I've decided to have another EEG done and to see a neurologist. My first EEG was a little abnormal and they wanted me to get it checked out further, but I never saw a neurologist about it because I never heard voices back when it was done and I was reletively fine.

My dad is a doctor and he gave me a book about someone's struggle with schizophrenia. It really has convinced me its not real.

The reason I didn't talk to my dad about my delusions is because his voice was in my head. It wasn't a nice voice. I told them everything now. I faked getting better so I'd get out of the rehab place. I felt like I was in jail.

It is so weird having conversations with the voices now that I don't believe that they are other people. I questioned whether they were other people at first, but eventually I was convinced.

I still don't completely control my brain though. I'm not consciously doing these voices and hallucinations. So I don't really consider that "I" am doing it. I'm really gonna work on trying to control what the voices say.

It's not like I just believed this stuff without proof. It was proven to me several times. But I understand now that the proof was my mind playing tricks on me.

Now I feel really bad about cutting contact from lots of people in my life. My relationship with my parents really went to hell. I really resented them harrassing me in my head then pretending to care out loud.

The problem with just having someone with this sort of illness just go see a doctor is that I heard the doctors' voices in my head as they were talking to me. I couldn't trust what they were saying outloud.

I think hearing a person who went through they same thing is the best way to help someone like this. Whether it be a book or in person.

It's funny that you guys caught me in this transition period. I think this thread, amoung other things, really helped.

I hope you all understand now that I truely believed what I said in the OP. I didn't lie once. Now enough with the troll stuff. You wanted me to give proof of the telepathy. Now where is your proof that i'm a troll. You believe it without proof. Be careful you might have "Obsessive Compulsive Troll Accusing Disorder".

Brendy · 24th March 2008, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by articulett

You're right. I bet it is him. Here's the link for those who are interested. If so, he is certainly creative and multi talented. http://www.vimeo.com/674964

I hope he stays in touch. He has certainly inspired discussion. I'm interested in knowing more myself.

That's not me. I have hair

Brendy · 24th March 2008, 03:37 AM

I wish I could edit my OP because I would ask people to either read my last posts in this thread or not read it at all because they will get the wrong impression of me.

Brendy · 24th March 2008, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by Senex

It's the high point of his day when sits at his computer and reads what people are saying here about him.

Really? Where'd you get this information? What's your proof? Aren't you a skeptic, don't you need proof? Aren't you trying to just start something with me by sayin that? That would make you the troll.

For your information my whole day is *********** hell. There is no high point.

You don't care about that. And I don't care about you.

jmontecillo01 · 24th March 2008, 03:53 AM

Hi Brendy,

I am happy that you are at least putting an effort to address the problem. It might take a little time to find theirght medications but I assure you, eventually it will. Take the medications prescribed by the doctor. If it is causing problems like lethurgic feelings, talk to you doctor about it so that the dosage can be adjusted.

Originally Posted by Brendy

My dad is a doctor and he gave me a book about someone's struggle with schizophrenia. It really has convinced me its not real.

The reason I didn't talk to my dad about my delusions is because his voice was in my head. It wasn't a nice voice. I told them everything now. I faked getting better so I'd get out of the rehab place. I felt like I was in jail.

It is wonderful that you have a father who understands what you are going through. Discuss what you feel with him.

Originally Posted by Brendy

I think hearing a person who went through they same thing is the best way to help someone like this. Whether it be a book or in person.

You are quite right. It is difficult for a person who did not experience what you went through to understand what you feel.

Originally Posted by Brendy

It's funny that you guys caught me in this transition period. I think this thread, amoung other things, really helped.

Words of advice and comfort does not cost a single cent. Words that hurt that are directed to a person who is really suffering from mental illness is dangerous as it might push that person to the edge.

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I hope you all understand now that I truely believed what I said in the OP. I didn't lie once

Your opening post was a complete giveaway. Your words basically means "I don't have mental ilness so do not give me links to respiredal. Just get out of my head". Delusion and denial. I do not believe that a person would put an effort to understand the illness just so he could annoy people.

Don't worry, the more you examine the illness, the more insight you develop.

Gst · 24th March 2008, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by Brendy

Can you make yourself fart?

Oh man, I wish.

Empress · 24th March 2008, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by Brendy

I've decided to have another EEG done and to see a neurologist. My first EEG was a little abnormal and they wanted me to get it checked out further, but I never saw a neurologist about it because I never heard voices back when it was done and I was reletively fine.

My dad is a doctor and he gave me a book about someone's struggle with schizophrenia. It really has convinced me its not real.

The reason I didn't talk to my dad about my delusions is because his voice was in my head. It wasn't a nice voice. I told them everything now. I faked getting better so I'd get out of the rehab place. I felt like I was in jail.

It is so weird having conversations with the voices now that I don't believe that they are other people. I questioned whether they were other people at first, but eventually I was convinced.

I still don't completely control my brain though. I'm not consciously doing these voices and hallucinations. So I don't really consider that "I" am doing it. I'm really gonna work on trying to control what the voices say.

It's not like I just believed this stuff without proof. It was proven to me several times. But I understand now that the proof was my mind playing tricks on me.

Now I feel really bad about cutting contact from lots of people in my life. My relationship with my parents really went to hell. I really resented them harrassing me in my head then pretending to care out loud.

Many of us simply can't control our brains. Many mental illnesses are organic, and as such require medication. I've suffered my entire life with severe depression. Without medication I have suicidal ideation on a regular (several times a week) basis. I have horrible thoughts and feelings about myself.

This is not a personal failing, and thinking so simply increases my symptoms. With the proper medication, those obsessive thoughts and feelings vanish completely.

Schizophrenia can be very difficult to treat, but recognizing that the voices in your head aren't real is a huge first step. Now it's important to act on your understanding and get help. You'v taken the first step by talking to your father and agreeing to have another EEG. Now it's important to not slip back into earlier delusions, and to follow through with your appointment and recommended aftercare.

Also, I strongly suspect that your parents and others who love you will welcome you back into their lives with open arms. Good luck.

articulett · 24th March 2008, 04:30 AM

Brendy, I'm glad you kept us apprised. It sounds like you are on a good path. It is good to find and hear from others who experience what you experience, and one day you will be that kind of help for someone else who is scared and having their first experiences with hallucinations or delusions. Nobody asks for mental illness. But at least we live in a time where there are more solutions than ever, and you are smart, and you may never have another episode. John Nash (the famous mathematician with schizophrenia and the basis for the movie--A Beautiful Mind said that he never stopped hearing voices, but he learns to check and see if they are real with people he trusts.

Schizophrenia can be very difficult because it makes you distrust the people who really could help you like your parents. It sounds like your dad is perceptive. Maybe one day you'll write your own book. It's good that you've recorded your experiences.

Don't worry about people calling you a troll. As you read the writings here, you will see that we get some trolls--people who believe unbelievable things or who don't make much sense--they get mad at us when we ask questions or ask for evidence. They don't want to discuss anything, because they believe they are here to teach. So sometimes we tease them because they can be frustrating and they don't listen anyhow. It's not nice, and I'm particularly catty with "creationists" myself-- so maybe those who called you a troll are a little paranoid too. Nobody wants to be "tricked" on line. I get so peeved when I really try to explain evolution to a creationists only to realize their questions weren't sincere at all. As you read more posts here, you'll probably understand why people may have jumped to that conclusion. But it will give you good practice to develop thick skin. There are all kinds of people in the world. You will develop the skills to find out who you can trust and who you can ignore. I suspect your dad is someone you can trust.

So you're not the Brendy in the video... you can't ride a unicycle? Darn. I thought that was pretty damn cool.

Senex · 24th March 2008, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by articulett

Subpoena-- you forgot the O... it counts against you. I'm a nudist.

I forgot the O? Hmmm... I never forget the the O when it's important. And it's usually very important. Give me another chance

I'm a nudist too but unlike you the subpeana guys don't give a discount when serving me.

Brendy said:

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Really? Where'd you get this information? What's your proof? Aren't you a skeptic, don't you need proof? Aren't you trying to just start something with me by sayin that? That would make you the troll.

For your information my whole day is *********** hell. There is no high point.

You don't care about that. And I don't care about you.

Whoah, back off my friend. I just happen to have the most recent copy of Telepathy Today and it seems a certain person was thinking a little too loudly at the motor vehicle line recently. It seems a certain fellow named Brendy has a wonderful life full of mischief. It turns out, despite his protestations, it doesn't suck to be him.

Brendy · 24th June 2008, 11:45 PM

A thanks goes out to all of you. I am on new medication now and it is working wonderfully. I no longer hear new voices, only the older ones and even they are very diminished.

That's all I wanted to say. Just thanks for be supportive.

articulett · 24th June 2008, 11:54 PM

Thanks for updating us, Brendy. Good luck. Feel free to stick around.

LordoftheLeftHand · 25th June 2008, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Brendy

A thanks goes out to all of you. I am on new medication now and it is working wonderfully. I no longer hear new voices, only the older ones and even they are very diminished.

That's all I wanted to say. Just thanks for be supportive.

Good for you Brendy! It must be very hard when you have a screw loose to have the courage face up to it and go get it "tightened up". I wonder how many people are capable of that? I'm impressed.

LLH

devnull · 25th June 2008, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Brendy

A thanks goes out to all of you. I am on new medication now and it is working wonderfully. I no longer hear new voices, only the older ones and even they are very diminished.

That's all I wanted to say. Just thanks for be supportive.

Glad it's working out for you. For a while you were sounding a lot like the "MI5 is trying to kill me!" guy that plagues the usenet.

http://www.five.org.uk

Scary stuff......

Baron Samedi · 25th June 2008, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Brendy

A thanks goes out to all of you. I am on new medication now and it is working wonderfully. I no longer hear new voices, only the older ones and even they are very diminished.

That's all I wanted to say. Just thanks for be supportive.

Hey Brendy. It's good to hear that you're doing better. Keep hanging in there, okay?

Empress · 25th June 2008, 02:37 AM

What wonderful news! Thanks for letting us know, and please keep in touch.

Irish Murdoch · 25th June 2008, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by Brendy

And if you think i am crazy, is there a need to make fun?

No, there certainly isn't. I for one would never make fun of you. It may be extremely hard to see this from where you're sitting, but I really would recommend that you see a psychiatrist. What you are talking about seems to be what is known as a perception of "thought insertion". Far from offering evidence of telepathy, this is a common symptom of psychotic illness. I know that you're likely to think I don't understand, and that I'm just misguided in encouraging you to seek medical help. I guess there's not a lot I can do about that. But, out of concern for you, it's something I feel duty-bound to recommend all the same.

I can tell you with my hand on my heart that I am not "pretending" to believe there is no such thing as telepathy. I really do believe that there is no such thing.

(Edited to add: Sorry for not realising that your original message was part of a very old thred. I'm delighted to hear that things are going well for you now.)

godless dave · 25th June 2008, 02:30 PM

Glad to read the good news, Brendy.

Bull13 · 25th June 2008, 02:50 PM

Edited by chillzero:

Edited for civility

TheRedWorm · 25th June 2008, 03:04 PM

What a truly horrid thing to say.

Gord_in_Toronto · 25th June 2008, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bull13

Edited by chillzero:

Edited for civility

No. It just means you are full of it. Pull the wings off flies too?

devnull · 25th June 2008, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto

No. It just means you are full of it. Pull the wings off flies too?

Actually it probably means that he hasnt read the rest of the thread

rjh01 · 26th June 2008, 02:10 AM

This is great news. You are one of the few people to make a post like your OP and then come back later and say your health is improving.

Senex · 26th June 2008, 12:14 PM

Well, you know, it always feel good when you support an eccentric who comes through in the end. I just wish someone would do that for me.

bruto · 26th June 2008, 04:07 PM

I'm glad things are improving.

ExMinister · 26th June 2008, 04:12 PM

That news just made my day.

Thanks for letting us know.

22nd March 2008, 04:14 PM	#281
Olowkow Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,921	The fact is that no one here really knows whether Brendy is mentally ill or not. He is a functioning human being. And he has found an anonymous outlet for his thoughts, and appears to enjoy it, as do the posters. I find his insights rather intriguing and fairly well written on the whole. So what if he is "posing", it just doesn't impact anyone else but him. Perhaps more time should be spent guiding him to places like "stopsylvia", to show him that others have similar beliefs. That he has not commented on a video I posted earlier makes me wonder if perhaps that wasn't indeed he who made it. There cannot be that many Brendy's in Vermont. If so, it is a real insight.
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22nd March 2008, 04:58 PM	#283
Miss Whiplash Nettlesome Harpy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 53 Miles West of Venus Posts: 1,583	That certainly is a great video. Nice Pride parade too. The man has a good eye. I hope he will do more with his talent.
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22nd March 2008, 05:07 PM	#284
Apology Reader's of the Boden Codex Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,666	I used to have sympathy for the mentally ill on this forum. I was so polite and so sweet, and even asked others to not be so harsh, just as dancing david is doing right now. That's before George Simpson tried to sue me for suggesting that he get help. No good deed goes unpunished. I believe Locknar was also one of the Simpson 15. None of us that were involved with that fiasco will ever look at mentally ill trolls the same way ever again. Personally I will not bother with kid gloves, since the kid gloves got me no less sued the last time. I learned a valuable lesson from those ET Corn Gods.
	__________________ "When I began to talk with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although he was thought wise by many, and wiser still by himself; and I went and tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me." - Plato, Apology "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan

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articulett Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV (and the ethers of cyberspace) Posts: 15,786	What became of that? With paranoid people, everyone is "out to get them" or "trying to make them think they are crazy". I suspect there are multiple forum members who have such leanings.
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22nd March 2008, 05:32 PM	#286
Apology Reader's of the Boden Codex Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,666	Originally Posted by articulett What became of that? With paranoid people, everyone is "out to get them" or "try to make them think they are crazy". I suspect there are multiple forum members who have such leanings. George was unable to serve us, the named posters, properly because he was unable to find our Anti-Corn Clubhouse, so that part of his suit was dismissed by the judge. He continued with his suit against the JREF until the opponents in his many other lawsuits began discovering links to the JREF suit and its wild accusations, of which his opponents properly took full advantage. He dropped his suit against the JREF when it became too embarrassing, but it would not surprise me if we heard from George again some day.
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22nd March 2008, 04:46 PM	#282
articulett Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV (and the ethers of cyberspace) Posts: 15,786	You're right. I bet it is him. Here's the link for those who are interested. If so, he is certainly creative and multi talented. http://www.vimeo.com/674964 I hope he stays in touch. He has certainly inspired discussion. I'm interested in knowing more myself.

22nd March 2008, 05:38 PM	#287
articulett Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV (and the ethers of cyberspace) Posts: 15,786	It sounds like a good time was had by all.

22nd March 2008, 07:02 PM	#288
Locknar Sum of all evils ^tm Deputy Admin Join Date: May 2007 Location: 25.50 N, 77.54 W Posts: 14,489	Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler You're still tossing around "schizophrenia" and "bi-polar" yourself, and your qualifications to offer diagnosis over a message board is that you've had friends with these diseases? (If that's the qualification you're after, I doubt anyone here is NOT qualified.) But unlike me (and perhaps others), he's a expert...so its ok. Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler I have no problem with, for example, Bruto's post (above) making a case that Brendy is not a troll. His argument might even change my mind. However, that's not the same as saying it's inappropriate to discuss the possibility. Well...while Bruto's post did not win me over (so to speak), I respect his opinion. In the end the unfalsifiable nature of all of Brendy's claims still have me convinced he's a troll. That said, if Brendy is truly sincerer then he should seek professional help (of course, last time I suggested this I and others were sued) as he won't get that here on a Internet forum. I'd offer further comment, but I've already been labeled as "double shame full [sic]" for making unknown "bold claims", and/or being abusive, and do not want to risk further admonishment. Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler FWIW, I think the moderators do a fine job of moderating these days. Hands down, 100% complete agreement...except for Lisa (who must be blamed) PS - And yes, Lisa does a fine job too
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22nd March 2008, 08:06 PM	#289
Apology Reader's of the Boden Codex Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,666	Originally Posted by Locknar That said, if Brendy is truly sincerer then he should seek professional help (of course, last time I suggested this I and others were sued) as he won't get that here on a Internet forum. We are Children of the Corn, brother.
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23rd March 2008, 04:56 AM	#290
Dancing David Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 34,919	Originally Posted by JoeTheJuggler Right, and I thought you said it was shameful for anyone who is not a mental health care professional to argue about diagnoses. I suppose that might be what it looks like, I was responding emotionally for sure, I was mainly pointing out that people who did not have a background were arguing on the sincerity of Brendy. And that others were being abusive. If you feel that i made the statement you attribute to me then i would be in error and I apologise. Is 35million people, actually more like 70 million in the US who could potentialy exhibit psychosis enough that there is a good chance someone is sincere? Quote: I believe I've pointed out that even a qualified professional has no business trying to treat someone via a message board. I think you would have to strech my sattements rather far to get that I was trying to treat Brendy. Quote: Did you not say the following? And if you want I can PM you my history, it is one the board and some here on this thread. Or we can discuss it here if you wish. Quote: You're still tossing around "schizophrenia" and "bi-polar" yourself, and your qualifications to offer diagnosis over a message board is that you've had friends with these diseases? (If that's the qualification you're after, I doubt anyone here is NOT qualified.) Um, I also can tell you my history, I mentioned four possible illness that could potentially cause the symtoms Brendy is allegedly presenting, and some others. I did noy say "you are faking a text book case of schizophrenia", did I? Quote: Didn't you also say the following? It is here on the JREF and in this thread, I will discuss it here if you wish, or in a PM Quote: I've pretty much stated in every post that this forum is not an appropriate place for someone to turn to for mental health advice. It's a skeptic's forum. It is a good place to discuss things however, not to get expert or even accurate advice. Quote: I don't see how it's inappropriate for people to discuss possible explanations for Brendy's very strange posts. I've clumped them into three groups (mental illness, troll, or paranormal phenomena), and I think all three would be valid for discussion on this forum. Who are you to say any of them aren't legitimate? When there is a significant number of people (70 million in the USA) at a minimum who could exhibit the presentation Brendy was giving, how appropriate is it for people to guess that they are faking it? Quote: I have no problem with, for example, Bruto's post (above) making a case that Brendy is not a troll. His argument might even change my mind. However, that's not the same as saying it's inappropriate to discuss the possibility. Fair enough. I think the mocking and abuse is to be expected. It's an anonymous forum. Anyone can join for the price of an e-mail address. Brendy's OP was really bizarre. Not that bizarre, when you consider the millions of people who have those kinds of experiences, it is POV I guess, but for you bizarre) Quote: Even the thread title is strange--and accuses everyone here of being in a conspiracy or something. I'd be surprised if Brendy didn't expect to get some mocking and abuse--even if he is being completely sincere. FWIW, I think the moderators do a fine job of moderating these days. They have the whole time I have been here.
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23rd March 2008, 05:14 AM	#291
Dancing David Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 34,919	Originally Posted by Locknar But unlike me (and perhaps others), he's a expert...so its ok. Locknar, I don't recall acting like you did , so perhaps you can show me the posts where I did? Where did I argue about diagnosis or abuse Brendy? I am sorry if you got sued by some whacko, that would be a bitter drink in deed. Quote: Well...while Bruto's post did not win me over (so to speak), I respect his opinion. In the end the unfalsifiable nature of all of Brendy's claims still have me convinced he's a troll. Have you met lots of the millions of people who have a psychotic disorder? The unfalsifiable claims abound and so I don't see that as a criteria? Stop Blaming Lisa! :grrrr:
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23rd March 2008, 05:15 AM	#292
Senex Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An autobody repair shop in Connecticut Posts: 3,573	All this hand wringing about Brendy's mental health has passed the point of being funny. The guy wanted a little attention and he created a bizarre post on our site and -- KA-CHING! He has at this point eight pages worth of posts all about him and his ideas. I thought I hit a home run when a post about kneeling/not kneeling at Catholic services hit three pages. This is eight pages all about him. It's the high point of his day when sits at his computer and reads what people are saying here about him. That's not to be confused about what the people are whispering about him on the back of the bus and when he walks by them on the street. That talk about him is an entirely different matter. Quote: articulett said:With paranoid people, everyone is "out to get them" or "trying to make them think they are crazy". I suspect there are multiple forum members who have such leanings. My lawyers and I have been waiting for someone to come out and be willing to name names. Please stay at home today. The subpeana guy is on his way. You will make a great witness if you wear that little black dress
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23rd March 2008, 05:20 AM	#293
Dancing David Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 34,919	Originally Posted by Locknar I'd have to say troll at this point; to many things that don't make sense (to paraphrase Brendy): - I'm a skeptic, but I'm being telepathically controlled - Friends, family, etc. can use my body as their own except when I don’t allow it - Friends, family, etc. can read my mind, but I can fool them (ie. lie) and keep secrets - I could prove telepathy is real, but I don’t want to - Textbook symptoms of schizophrenia - Far too many “self answering” questions/issues: -- I’ve seen doctors, they didn't/can’t help me -- Stories/situations that cannot (and will not) be proven…such as post #109 All in all, very Mayday like with all the contradictions and "self answering" items. Locknar, here is what I was referencing as bold claims, i was way over the top and very judgemental and rude. However if you hung out with many people with psychotic disorders you would find that they all pretty much can act this way (and oh so much more), so I don't see how this would show that they are a troll or faking it.
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23rd March 2008, 12:52 PM	#294
articulett Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV (and the ethers of cyberspace) Posts: 15,786	Originally Posted by Senex All this hand wringing about Brendy's mental health has passed the point of being funny. The guy wanted a little attention and he created a bizarre post on our site and -- KA-CHING! He has at this point eight pages worth of posts all about him and his ideas. I thought I hit a home run when a post about kneeling/not kneeling at Catholic services hit three pages. This is eight pages all about him. It's the high point of his day when sits at his computer and reads what people are saying here about him. That's not to be confused about what the people are whispering about him on the back of the bus and when he walks by them on the street. That talk about him is an entirely different matter. My lawyers and I have been waiting for someone to come out and be willing to name names. Please stay at home today. The subpeana guy is on his way. You will make a great witness if you wear that little black dress Subpoena-- you forgot the O... it counts against you. I'm a nudist.

23rd March 2008, 05:09 PM	#295
quarky Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 20,454	I don't know and don't really care if Brendy is a troll or not, but I find it curious that his possible legitimacy is because he demonstrates classic, text-book symptoms. If one of us was wanting to play a game here; posing as bi-polar, or worse, we'd likely look up the text-book for tips on how to behave. Deception can run so deep sometimes, it ought to be its own mental illness, instead of just good advertizing strategy. not to be overly ironic, but trolls need help as much as the next nut-case.
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24th March 2008, 03:26 AM	#296
Brendy Thinker Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 150	Originally Posted by articulett Smell hallucinations are common with a particular type of seizure... this really sound neurological... and having smell hallucinations might help them figure things out. http://personal.ecu.edu/wuenschk/parosmia.htm http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/...cinations.html http://www.psychtreatment.com/schizo...ucinations.htm http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/hallucinations.htm Here's an an excellent video from TEDtalks (18 minutes) that you might find interesting. ttp://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/229 The youtube video was good. I think about 1 in 100 people have schizophrenia-- and it can come and go and there are some new medications that don't have the side effects of the older ones. http://www.schizophrenia.com/sznews/...es/005992.html It sounds hellish. Let us know how things go. You can teach us how to recognize and respond to other people who are experiencing what you are experiencing. I've decided to have another EEG done and to see a neurologist. My first EEG was a little abnormal and they wanted me to get it checked out further, but I never saw a neurologist about it because I never heard voices back when it was done and I was reletively fine. My dad is a doctor and he gave me a book about someone's struggle with schizophrenia. It really has convinced me its not real. The reason I didn't talk to my dad about my delusions is because his voice was in my head. It wasn't a nice voice. I told them everything now. I faked getting better so I'd get out of the rehab place. I felt like I was in jail. It is so weird having conversations with the voices now that I don't believe that they are other people. I questioned whether they were other people at first, but eventually I was convinced. I still don't completely control my brain though. I'm not consciously doing these voices and hallucinations. So I don't really consider that "I" am doing it. I'm really gonna work on trying to control what the voices say. It's not like I just believed this stuff without proof. It was proven to me several times. But I understand now that the proof was my mind playing tricks on me. Now I feel really bad about cutting contact from lots of people in my life. My relationship with my parents really went to hell. I really resented them harrassing me in my head then pretending to care out loud. The problem with just having someone with this sort of illness just go see a doctor is that I heard the doctors' voices in my head as they were talking to me. I couldn't trust what they were saying outloud. I think hearing a person who went through they same thing is the best way to help someone like this. Whether it be a book or in person. It's funny that you guys caught me in this transition period. I think this thread, amoung other things, really helped. I hope you all understand now that I truely believed what I said in the OP. I didn't lie once. Now enough with the troll stuff. You wanted me to give proof of the telepathy. Now where is your proof that i'm a troll. You believe it without proof. Be careful you might have "Obsessive Compulsive Troll Accusing Disorder".
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24th March 2008, 03:28 AM	#297
Brendy Thinker Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 150	Originally Posted by articulett You're right. I bet it is him. Here's the link for those who are interested. If so, he is certainly creative and multi talented. http://www.vimeo.com/674964 I hope he stays in touch. He has certainly inspired discussion. I'm interested in knowing more myself. That's not me. I have hair
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24th March 2008, 03:37 AM	#298
Brendy Thinker Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 150	I wish I could edit my OP because I would ask people to either read my last posts in this thread or not read it at all because they will get the wrong impression of me.
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24th March 2008, 03:43 AM	#299
Brendy Thinker Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 150	Originally Posted by Senex It's the high point of his day when sits at his computer and reads what people are saying here about him. Really? Where'd you get this information? What's your proof? Aren't you a skeptic, don't you need proof? Aren't you trying to just start something with me by sayin that? That would make you the troll. For your information my whole day is *********** hell. There is no high point. You don't care about that. And I don't care about you.
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24th March 2008, 03:53 AM	#300
jmontecillo01 Thinker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 192	Hi Brendy, I am happy that you are at least putting an effort to address the problem. It might take a little time to find theirght medications but I assure you, eventually it will. Take the medications prescribed by the doctor. If it is causing problems like lethurgic feelings, talk to you doctor about it so that the dosage can be adjusted. Originally Posted by Brendy My dad is a doctor and he gave me a book about someone's struggle with schizophrenia. It really has convinced me its not real. The reason I didn't talk to my dad about my delusions is because his voice was in my head. It wasn't a nice voice. I told them everything now. I faked getting better so I'd get out of the rehab place. I felt like I was in jail. It is wonderful that you have a father who understands what you are going through. Discuss what you feel with him. Originally Posted by Brendy I think hearing a person who went through they same thing is the best way to help someone like this. Whether it be a book or in person. You are quite right. It is difficult for a person who did not experience what you went through to understand what you feel. Originally Posted by Brendy It's funny that you guys caught me in this transition period. I think this thread, amoung other things, really helped. Words of advice and comfort does not cost a single cent. Words that hurt that are directed to a person who is really suffering from mental illness is dangerous as it might push that person to the edge. Quote: I hope you all understand now that I truely believed what I said in the OP. I didn't lie once Your opening post was a complete giveaway. Your words basically means "I don't have mental ilness so do not give me links to respiredal. Just get out of my head". Delusion and denial. I do not believe that a person would put an effort to understand the illness just so he could annoy people. Don't worry, the more you examine the illness, the more insight you develop.
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24th March 2008, 03:53 AM	#301
Gst New Blood Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13	Originally Posted by Brendy Can you make yourself fart? Oh man, I wish.
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24th March 2008, 03:54 AM	#302
Empress Abandoned All Hope Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Blandings Castle Posts: 1,619	Originally Posted by Brendy I've decided to have another EEG done and to see a neurologist. My first EEG was a little abnormal and they wanted me to get it checked out further, but I never saw a neurologist about it because I never heard voices back when it was done and I was reletively fine. My dad is a doctor and he gave me a book about someone's struggle with schizophrenia. It really has convinced me its not real. The reason I didn't talk to my dad about my delusions is because his voice was in my head. It wasn't a nice voice. I told them everything now. I faked getting better so I'd get out of the rehab place. I felt like I was in jail. It is so weird having conversations with the voices now that I don't believe that they are other people. I questioned whether they were other people at first, but eventually I was convinced. I still don't completely control my brain though. I'm not consciously doing these voices and hallucinations. So I don't really consider that "I" am doing it. I'm really gonna work on trying to control what the voices say. It's not like I just believed this stuff without proof. It was proven to me several times. But I understand now that the proof was my mind playing tricks on me. Now I feel really bad about cutting contact from lots of people in my life. My relationship with my parents really went to hell. I really resented them harrassing me in my head then pretending to care out loud. Many of us simply can't control our brains. Many mental illnesses are organic, and as such require medication. I've suffered my entire life with severe depression. Without medication I have suicidal ideation on a regular (several times a week) basis. I have horrible thoughts and feelings about myself. This is not a personal failing, and thinking so simply increases my symptoms. With the proper medication, those obsessive thoughts and feelings vanish completely. Schizophrenia can be very difficult to treat, but recognizing that the voices in your head aren't real is a huge first step. Now it's important to act on your understanding and get help. You'v taken the first step by talking to your father and agreeing to have another EEG. Now it's important to not slip back into earlier delusions, and to follow through with your appointment and recommended aftercare. Also, I strongly suspect that your parents and others who love you will welcome you back into their lives with open arms. Good luck.
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24th March 2008, 04:30 AM	#303
articulett Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV (and the ethers of cyberspace) Posts: 15,786	Brendy, I'm glad you kept us apprised. It sounds like you are on a good path. It is good to find and hear from others who experience what you experience, and one day you will be that kind of help for someone else who is scared and having their first experiences with hallucinations or delusions. Nobody asks for mental illness. But at least we live in a time where there are more solutions than ever, and you are smart, and you may never have another episode. John Nash (the famous mathematician with schizophrenia and the basis for the movie--A Beautiful Mind said that he never stopped hearing voices, but he learns to check and see if they are real with people he trusts. Schizophrenia can be very difficult because it makes you distrust the people who really could help you like your parents. It sounds like your dad is perceptive. Maybe one day you'll write your own book. It's good that you've recorded your experiences. Don't worry about people calling you a troll. As you read the writings here, you will see that we get some trolls--people who believe unbelievable things or who don't make much sense--they get mad at us when we ask questions or ask for evidence. They don't want to discuss anything, because they believe they are here to teach. So sometimes we tease them because they can be frustrating and they don't listen anyhow. It's not nice, and I'm particularly catty with "creationists" myself-- so maybe those who called you a troll are a little paranoid too. Nobody wants to be "tricked" on line. I get so peeved when I really try to explain evolution to a creationists only to realize their questions weren't sincere at all. As you read more posts here, you'll probably understand why people may have jumped to that conclusion. But it will give you good practice to develop thick skin. There are all kinds of people in the world. You will develop the skills to find out who you can trust and who you can ignore. I suspect your dad is someone you can trust. So you're not the Brendy in the video... you can't ride a unicycle? Darn. I thought that was pretty damn cool.

24th March 2008, 04:32 AM	#304
Senex Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An autobody repair shop in Connecticut Posts: 3,573	Originally Posted by articulett Subpoena-- you forgot the O... it counts against you. I'm a nudist. I forgot the O? Hmmm... I never forget the the O when it's important. And it's usually very important. Give me another chance I'm a nudist too but unlike you the subpeana guys don't give a discount when serving me. Brendy said: Quote: Really? Where'd you get this information? What's your proof? Aren't you a skeptic, don't you need proof? Aren't you trying to just start something with me by sayin that? That would make you the troll. For your information my whole day is *********** hell. There is no high point. You don't care about that. And I don't care about you. Whoah, back off my friend. I just happen to have the most recent copy of Telepathy Today and it seems a certain person was thinking a little too loudly at the motor vehicle line recently. It seems a certain fellow named Brendy has a wonderful life full of mischief. It turns out, despite his protestations, it doesn't suck to be him.
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24th June 2008, 11:45 PM	#305
Brendy Thinker Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 150	Everything's good now A thanks goes out to all of you. I am on new medication now and it is working wonderfully. I no longer hear new voices, only the older ones and even they are very diminished. That's all I wanted to say. Just thanks for be supportive.
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24th June 2008, 11:54 PM	#306
articulett Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV (and the ethers of cyberspace) Posts: 15,786	Thanks for updating us, Brendy. Good luck. Feel free to stick around.

25th June 2008, 12:15 AM	#307
LordoftheLeftHand Dominus Sinistrae Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,186	Originally Posted by Brendy A thanks goes out to all of you. I am on new medication now and it is working wonderfully. I no longer hear new voices, only the older ones and even they are very diminished. That's all I wanted to say. Just thanks for be supportive. Good for you Brendy! It must be very hard when you have a screw loose to have the courage face up to it and go get it "tightened up". I wonder how many people are capable of that? I'm impressed. LLH
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25th June 2008, 02:06 AM	#308
devnull Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,537	Originally Posted by Brendy A thanks goes out to all of you. I am on new medication now and it is working wonderfully. I no longer hear new voices, only the older ones and even they are very diminished. That's all I wanted to say. Just thanks for be supportive. Glad it's working out for you. For a while you were sounding a lot like the "MI5 is trying to kill me!" guy that plagues the usenet. http://www.five.org.uk Scary stuff......
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25th June 2008, 02:23 AM	#309
Baron Samedi Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kayfabe, Upper Canada Posts: 488	Originally Posted by Brendy A thanks goes out to all of you. I am on new medication now and it is working wonderfully. I no longer hear new voices, only the older ones and even they are very diminished. That's all I wanted to say. Just thanks for be supportive. Hey Brendy. It's good to hear that you're doing better. Keep hanging in there, okay?

25th June 2008, 02:37 AM	#310
Empress Abandoned All Hope Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Blandings Castle Posts: 1,619	What wonderful news! Thanks for letting us know, and please keep in touch.
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25th June 2008, 03:31 AM	#311
Irish Murdoch Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 373	Originally Posted by Brendy And if you think i am crazy, is there a need to make fun? No, there certainly isn't. I for one would never make fun of you. It may be extremely hard to see this from where you're sitting, but I really would recommend that you see a psychiatrist. What you are talking about seems to be what is known as a perception of "thought insertion". Far from offering evidence of telepathy, this is a common symptom of psychotic illness. I know that you're likely to think I don't understand, and that I'm just misguided in encouraging you to seek medical help. I guess there's not a lot I can do about that. But, out of concern for you, it's something I feel duty-bound to recommend all the same. I can tell you with my hand on my heart that I am not "pretending" to believe there is no such thing as telepathy. I really do believe that there is no such thing. (Edited to add: Sorry for not realising that your original message was part of a very old thred. I'm delighted to hear that things are going well for you now.)
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25th June 2008, 02:30 PM	#312
godless dave Great Dalmuti Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota Posts: 6,137	Glad to read the good news, Brendy.
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25th June 2008, 03:04 PM	#314
TheRedWorm I AM the Red Worm! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Body: Michigan, Heart: Chicago Posts: 3,990	What a truly horrid thing to say.
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25th June 2008, 06:38 PM	#316
devnull Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,537	Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto No. It just means you are full of it. Pull the wings off flies too? Actually it probably means that he hasnt read the rest of the thread
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26th June 2008, 02:10 AM	#317
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,319	This is great news. You are one of the few people to make a post like your OP and then come back later and say your health is improving.
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