Need help with homicide (this is worth reading besides)

EeneyMinnieMoe · 21st March 2008, 10:27 PM

http://www.lexisnexis.com.proxy.wexl...157447&docNo=2

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WILLIAMS: I'm going to take a little break. When we come back, a man who was acquitted of his girlfriend's murder searches for the real killer. We'll be back right after this.
Ms. BROWNE: Sort of like "The Fugitive."
(Announcements)
WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am, you had a question for Sylvia.
Unidentified Woman #6: My niece, who was murdered in October of 2004, I believe she's on the other side, and I'd like to know who is with her.
Ms. BROWNE: There is someone by the name, common name, John, but he is thick build. And there is also somebody by the name of Howard. So would you check and find out who that is?
Woman #6: Thank you.
WILLIAMS: Absolutely. Yes, ma'am.
Unidentified Woman #7: Hi, Sylvia. Hi, Montel. I just completed my degree, and I would like to know, what does my future hold as far as my career?
Ms. BROWNE: Teaching.
Woman #7: Teaching?
Ms. BROWNE: Yes.
Woman #7: OK. Thank you.
Ms. BROWNE: That's easy.
WILLIAMS: Back to you over this way. Yes, ma'am? She'll hold it. Yes, ma'am?
Unidentified Woman #8: Hi, Sylvia. I just wanted to know, where do you see my career going? I'm going to school right now to get my master's. Where do you see me?
Ms. BROWNE: In therapy.
Woman #8: Do you see me...
WILLIAMS: Do you see her in therapy, or as a therapist?
Ms. BROWNE: No. Getting into therapy work. Helping people, working with people.
Woman #8: Do you see me teaching?
Ms. BROWNE: I see you doing therapy.
WILLIAMS: That's what she sees.
Ms. BROWNE: Doing therapy, not in therapy.
Woman #8: OK. But you--because I'm going to school right now for teaching.
Ms. BROWNE: I don't give a rat's whatever. What I'm trying to tell you is you get into therapy.
WILLIAMS: And on that note, please welcome Tom. Where's Tom? See, wait. I got to say it. It's so funny. Now, before--before every show that we do here, I'm sorry, but I'll let the audience at home in on this, I go through a whole list of rules, OK? One of those things I say is that you came a long way to ask Sylvia questions. If you came this far away, don't come here to have her validate what you say. Listen to what she says.
Ms. BROWNE: That's what I always say to them on the phone if they argue with me, `Why did you spend your money to call me?'
WILLIAMS: Don't bother calling!
Ms. BROWNE: If you know the future, why do you call me?
WILLIAMS: And you know, speaking of that, this person doesn't know the future, and didn't know the--Tom...
Ms. BROWNE: That's right. And how many people have come back to me and said, `I never believe what you said until it happens.'
WILLIAMS: There you go.
Now, Tom, you came here for another reason, sir. What did you want to find out?
TOM: Up until October 3rd, 2002, I lived with my girlfriend, the woman I loved, the mother of my son. On that evening, she was coming home from work at 1 in the morning. She didn't show up at home at 2:00, I called her, I called the police, I called everybody. They came out to the house, they found her car 500 yards up the street from the house. They couldn't find her for a day and a half. The police were everywhere. They looked over me, and--and searched my house. And the found her a day and a half later, wrapped in plastic, with a gunshot wound to her head, by a dumpster. Throughout the next year and a half, they couldn't find any evidence, no DNA, no clues. They searched my house again, they interviewed me several times. And then they ended up charging me with first-degree murder for my girlfriend, September 15th, last year. I just got acquitted in February. The trial was absolutely ridiculous. There was nothing on me.
Ms. BROWNE: I know.
TOM: Sylvia, I'd like to know who killed my girlfriend.
Ms. BROWNE: This was--this was three Hispanic males. It was a gang situation.
TOM: Did somebody put them up to this?
Ms. BROWNE: Mm-hmm.
TOM: Do you have a name?
Ms. BROWNE: His name is--starts with a C.
TOM: With a C. First name or last name?
Ms. BROWNE: Last name.
TOM: Last name.
Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.
TOM: Does he work for law enforcement?
Ms. BROWNE: Yes.
TOM: Sylvia, what happened? How did her car get there?
Ms. BROWNE: Pardon me?
TOM: How did her car get to that side of the road?
Ms. BROWNE: Listen, if you have the wherewithal, you can get a car anywhere.
TOM: The--the last question is...
Ms. BROWNE: She didn't suffer.
TOM: And is she proud of the way I'm taking care of our son?
Ms. BROWNE: Oh, of course she is. And she says she's also proud of the way that you also read to him, and everything. Because she's with you when you do that.
TOM: OK. This Mr. C, what does--what does he look like?
Ms. BROWNE: Blond hair, blue eyes.
TOM: All right.

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NewtonTrino · 21st March 2008, 10:38 PM

Jesus, I hadn't read any of this Sylvia stuff before this. This is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING and HORRIBLE. I fear for the future of humanity. The one positive is that we've come this far even against some formidible opponents like organized religion etc.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 21st March 2008, 11:00 PM

Bingo.

The missing person's press release: http://www.chesterfield.gov/PublicAf...lay.asp?ID=815

http://www.lexisnexis.com.proxy.wexl...152567&docNo=9

Richmond Times Dispatch (Virginia)
September 18, 2004 Saturday City Edition
BOYFRIEND CHARGED IN SLAYING/ INDICTMENT COMES TWO YEARS AFTER DEATH OF HOOTERS WAITRESS/

BYLINE: MARK BOWES/ Times-Dispatch Staff Writer/ Contact Mark Bowes at (804) 649-6450 or mbowes@timesdispatch.com/ Alan Cooper contributed to this story.

SECTION: AREA/STATE; Pg. A-1

LENGTH: 838 words

Nearly two years after the body of Carrie Ann Williams, a part-time Hooters waitress, was found wrapped in plastic beside a South Richmond trash bin, police have charged her former boyfriend in the slaying.
Chesterfield police yesterday served Raleigh Thomas Campbell, 35, with a first-degree murder indictment that was returned a day earlier by a Richmond regional multijurisdictional grand jury.
Campbell, who was a suspect from the earliest stages, already is serving time at the Powhatan Correctional Center for a drug offense. He was sentenced late last year to 19 months in prison for distributing Ecstasy to a police informant in Chesterfield.

He also was sentenced to suspended terms of 10 years for the distribution of Ecstasy and methamphetamine on other occasions. The distributions occurred in August, November and December 2001, and he was indicted a few months later, well before Williams was killed.
In announcing the murder indictment, police emphasized their investigation is continuing. Campbell was not charged with using a firearm in Williams' slaying, although she was shot to death.
She died of a gunshot wound to the right side of her head, according to the state medical examiner's office.
Police shared no new details yesterday about how they believe Williams was killed or what evidence they may have linking Campbell to the crime.
"We are absolutely sure that we've arrested the right person," said Chesterfield police Maj. Warner W. Williams.
David E. Boone, Campbell's attorney, said his client has "cooperated fully" with Chesterfield authorities "from the moment he learned of her death."
"He's given everything from DNA samples voluntarily, he's met with the officers repeatedly, he's allowed them to search his house several times," Boone said. "He's cooperated 100 percent, and yet all along they've told him and me that he's their lead suspect I think because he was the boyfriend, and they always look at the boyfriend or spouse as having the motive."
But aside from their relationship, Boone said, "I'm not aware of any evidence suggesting that he would want to do harm to her, and I've been in the loop from the get-go."
Boone said that unlike the Scott Peterson case currently being tried in California, Campbell "was extremely upset about [Williams' death] from the very beginning. He has been very teary-eyed for a long time. His actions from the beginning were certainly of those of a person who had nothing to hide.
"He's adamant that he had nothing to do with it," Boone added.
Williams, a 26-year-old Chesterfield mother, disappearedearly Oct. 3 after leaving her part-time job as a waitress at the Hooters restaurant on Huguenot Road. Her new Mercedes was found later that morning on Otterdale Road, just 500 or so yards from the Hampton Glen Mews home she shared with Williams and their then 3-year-old son.
Her body was found the next day, wrapped in plastic, at the Timbercreek Apartments on Chateau Court in South Richmond. The discovery came 31 hours after she was seen leaving the restaurant at 12:45 a.m.
Official sources say the preliminary autopsy revealed that Williams had bruising on her wrists and other parts of her body, indicating she had been bound or held down and perhaps beaten prior to being shot. Her bra, panties and some of her outer clothing had been cut, and one leg of her pantyhose had been ripped away.
Human hairs not belonging to her were found on her body or her clothing, according to the autopsy report.
Last year, police officials said they were almost certain that Williams was abducted from the Otterdale Road location where her car was found. At the time, they said it remained unclear whether Williams was sexually assaulted before she was shot in the head.
Shortly before she was killed, Williams made an appointment with a financial planner so she could make a will. That financial planner told The Times-Dispatch that Williams voiced concern about custody issues regarding her son in the event of her death.
About the time of her death, Williams and Campbell, an auto broker, had been living together for about a year at the Hampton Glen Mews home in the wake of an estrangement that saw Williams and her son living with her parents in Powhatan County.
Court records show Williams had filed for child support payments from Campbell, and he, in turn, had filed for custody of the boy before the couple reconciled.
The case has been an exhaustive one for detectives, primarily the department's major-case squad.
"The detectives, with the assistance of the commonwealth's attorney, did an outstanding job on this case," Warner said. "I would not classify this as a cold case, because they never closed it. They continued to work on this thing it's going to be two years next month since this happened to put this together."

On the Web
For an archive of stories in this case, see .

PERSON: CARRIE ANN WILLIAMS (95%); THOMAS J CAMPBELL (92%); DAVID E BOONE (71%);

JoeEllison · 21st March 2008, 11:12 PM

Can we get a focus on Browne's racism? She did this with the Shawn Hornbeck case, and she's doing it again. She just tosses out "Hispanics" as a catch-all.

ExMinister · 22nd March 2008, 06:33 AM

C is a blond haired, blue eyed Hispanic?

It seems she can't even remember what she's said from one sentence to the next.

Lisa Simpson · 22nd March 2008, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by ExMinister

C is a blond haired, blue eyed Hispanic?

It seems she can't even remember what she's said from one sentence to the next.

Hispanic isn't a racial definition, but a social one. It refers to anyone who comes from a Spanish-speaking country. Therefore, you could easily have a blond/blue-eyed Hispanic person.

GT/CS · 22nd March 2008, 07:23 AM

In this story I think the blonde-haired blue-eyed person is supposed to be the police officer who put the 3 Hispanics up to it.

If Tom had then gone out and blown away a cop he knows who fits that description would there be an liability on SB's part?

ExMinister · 22nd March 2008, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson

Hispanic isn't a racial definition, but a social one. It refers to anyone who comes from a Spanish-speaking country. Therefore, you could easily have a blond/blue-eyed Hispanic person.

Yep, very true, though Sylvia just makes all this crap up anyway.

GT/CS, though, also correctly points out that it's the individual who put them up to it who was blond haired and blue eyed, so ExM will now go drink some coffee and officially wake up before posting further.

Susan Gerbic · 22nd March 2008, 08:21 AM

Way to go Enny!

Susan

krelnik · 22nd March 2008, 08:26 AM

Now I'd be the last person to defend Sylvia, but I feel compelled to point out that the arrested suspect's (i.e. the boyfriend) last name DOES begin with a 'C'. Of course, this raises several questions, including:

Does he have blond hair and blue eyes?
And more importantly, why didn't Sylvia just say "it was you"?

All of that notwithstanding, it appears he was eventually acquitted!

http://www.legalspring.com/Articles/...ay-with-m.html

Quote:

Boyfriend acquitted of killing Hooters waitress
Richmond Times-Dispatch Feb 17, 2005

The boyfriend of slain Hooters waitress Carrie Ann Williams was
acquitted today of abducting and killing her more than two years ago.
A Chesterfield County Circuit Court jury deliberated for an hour and 45
minutes this afternoon before acquitting Raleigh Thomas Campbell, a
35-year-old auto broker.

Quote:

Several times Campbell made statements that included details only the
murderer could have known, O'Connell told the jurors.

During the trial, Jacob Alan Shouse, a state prison inmate with a
history of mental illness, testified that he had killed Williams.
However, a Patrick County investigator who has known Shouse for years
testified that Shouse seldom told the truth about anything.

dahduh · 22nd March 2008, 09:37 AM

Ha ha ha
Hee hee hee
Slivia's got 'em to a tee -
She'll take some sap
And spout some crap
Then smack 'em with a great big fee.

Steven Howard · 22nd March 2008, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by krelnik

All of that notwithstanding, it appears he was eventually acquitted!

He'd already been acquitted at the time he talked to Sylvia.

krelnik · 22nd March 2008, 09:50 AM

Oh, you're right. I missed that in the transcript. Thanks for pointing that out!

EeneyMinnieMoe · 22nd March 2008, 02:31 PM

Here's another picture of Carrie Ann: http://inrich.kaango.com/feViewAd/11595249

Isn't this a shame? Isn't it terrible?

If Mr. Campbell is innocent of his common law wife's murder- which I'm not entirely convinced of based on what I've read- the last thing he and Ms. Williams' family needs is a fraud and a liar interfering with the real investigation.

If Mr.Campbell is guilty and is using this as a cover, Browne and Williams are assisting a killer despicably affect a grieving partner.

Either way, I'm offended by this:

"WILLIAMS: I'm going to take a little break. When we come back, a man who was acquitted of his girlfriend's murder searches for the real killer. We'll be back right after this.
Ms. BROWNE: Sort of like "The Fugitive." "

"Sort of like 'The Fugitive' "?! And Shawn Hornbeck was kidnapped and molested! Sort of like "Mystic River"! And Holly Krewson was kidnapped and murdered! Sort of like "Law and Order!"!

Moochie · 22nd March 2008, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by krelnik

Now I'd be the last person to defend Sylvia, but I feel compelled to point out that the arrested suspect's (i.e. the boyfriend) last name DOES begin with a 'C'. Of course, this raises several questions, including:

Does he have blond hair and blue eyes?
And more importantly, why didn't Sylvia just say "it was you"?

All of that notwithstanding, it appears he was eventually acquitted!

http://www.legalspring.com/Articles/...ay-with-m.html

Well, let's get serious here.

The deceased person's first name also begins with a C. Could it be, could it possibly be, that she hired the three stooges to murder her? Did she have blond hair and blue eyes? The mind boggles!

M.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 9th November 2008, 08:18 PM

Here's another link pertaining to the case:

http://www.richmond.com/news-features/7371

I don't know if the boyfriend did it or not but he sounds like some piece of work.

The man was in jail on several felonies before he was indicted for a murder! Now that takes some doing!

Almost everyone deserves a second chance and you certainly can be a good person and have a substance abuse problem, of course, but he sounds like a dangerous creep.

Edges · 9th November 2008, 08:34 PM

Not that this has anything to do with anything, but I think it's interesting that the boyfriend said to Browne, "There was nothing on me," not "I didn't kill her." Interesting choice of words, seems like a callous way to refer to being accused and tried of killing his girlfriend. Maybe it's just me, but he seems more angry that they went after him with no evidence, not that they went after him.

Browne's accusing hispanics reminds me of the Runaway Bride (I forget her name, Jessica or something similar) who said one of her "kidnappers" was a hispanic male. Why hispanics?

Off topic, but her "reading" for the woman that was in school for teaching pissed me off. Not only was she really rude to this woman, she said "I'm telling you to go into therapy." That's not seeing the future, that's giving career advice.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 10th November 2008, 10:51 AM

Did you notice that the man asked SB if the person who set up the murder was in law enforcement? He fed that to her after she, as usual, blamed a group of phantom young Hispanic men. And that his explanation for his arrest for drug possession was also some cock-and-bull story about being set up by police officers?

This, to me, points quite strongly to his guilt- but if he actually had nothing to do with his girlfriend's murder, he's not helping himself by raving about a constant police conspiracy against him.

Just like with the woman killed by her son-in-law, here's another case where Sylvia Browne might be helping a killer play a concerned family member.

billydkid · 10th November 2008, 04:49 PM

Sylvia Browne is a heroic and noble person sacrificing herself in the service of others. If only we had more Sylvia Brownes. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Sylvia Browne is a saint and God himself has granted her this great gift so that she may unselfishly give of herself to others and make the world a brighter place for us all. Additionally, she is a stunningly beautiful woman with a grace and elegance barely matched in nature. Every bit as lovely on the inside as she is on the outside. That in this universe such a creature should live and breath.

Lrrr · 10th November 2008, 05:31 PM

One documented instance of where she was right. Just one. That's all we ask. We're still waiting.

Brian-M · 10th November 2008, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Lrrr

One documented instance of where she was right. Just one. That's all we ask. We're still waiting.

With all the predictions she makes, she has to be right some of the time, if only by chance. After all, a even broken clock tells the right time twice a day.

Maybe her failure to give accurate predictions could count as a psychic talent.

ExMinister · 10th November 2008, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by billydkid

Sylvia Browne is a heroic and noble person sacrificing herself in the service of others. If only we had more Sylvia Brownes. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Sylvia Browne is a saint and God himself has granted her this great gift so that she may unselfishly give of herself to others and make the world a brighter place for us all. Additionally, she is a stunningly beautiful woman with a grace and elegance barely matched in nature. Every bit as lovely on the inside as she is on the outside. That in this universe such a creature should live and breath.

I'll go along with the part in bold.

desertgal · 10th November 2008, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by billydkid

Sylvia Browne is a heroic and noble person sacrificing herself in the service of others. If only we had more Sylvia Brownes. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Sylvia Browne is a saint and God himself has granted her this great gift so that she may unselfishly give of herself to others and make the world a brighter place for us all. Additionally, she is a stunningly beautiful woman with a grace and elegance barely matched in nature. Every bit as lovely on the inside as she is on the outside. That in this universe such a creature should live and breath.

Oh, come ON. Look, if you want to believe in her 'abilities', that is your choice. But, jeez, give the "angel on earth" shtick a rest. She isn't a saint, she doesn't unselfishly give of herself, she's hardly stunningly beautiful, and she's a human being, not the reincarnation of Mary Magdalene.

Her lack of authenticity has been exhaustively documented, unlike her self proclaimed, much touted proof of authenticity.

desertgal · 10th November 2008, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson

Hispanic isn't a racial definition, but a social one. It refers to anyone who comes from a Spanish-speaking country. Therefore, you could easily have a blond/blue-eyed Hispanic person.

I agree, but I have to question whether SB looks at it that way. One has to wonder if she actually meant a blue eyed, blonde Hispanic, or, if she views Hispanics as a racial definition, if she actually did make a blunder.

billydkid · 10th November 2008, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by desertgal

Oh, come ON. Look, if you want to believe in her 'abilities', that is your choice. But, jeez, give the "angel on earth" shtick a rest. She isn't a saint, she doesn't unselfishly give of herself, she's hardly stunningly beautiful, and she's a human being, not the reincarnation of Mary Magdalene.

Her lack of authenticity has been exhaustively documented, unlike her self proclaimed, much touted proof of authenticity.

I guess I should have included a smiley. I was being sarcastic. I take forgranted that most people in here know me.

desertgal · 10th November 2008, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by billydkid

I guess I should have included a smiley. I was being sarcastic. I take forgranted that most people in here know me.

Sarcasm noted and appreciated.

billydkid · 10th November 2008, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by ExMinister

I'll go along with the part in bold.

That is the joke, thank you very much. The woman is a hideous troll and yes she is as lovely inside as she is out.

ExMinister · 10th November 2008, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by billydkid

That is the joke, thank you very much. The woman is a hideous troll and yes she is as lovely inside as she is out.

Yeah, I know, I was being snarky too.

Eliz Bathory · 4th December 2008, 12:01 PM

This guy is in the news again.
www [dot] nbc4i.com/midwest/cmh/news.apx.-content-articles-CMH-2008-12-02-0018.html
Sorry, can't post proper links yet.

From the story: "Police arrested a Henrico County man early Monday and charged him with felony child neglect and driving under the influence after he was seen at a bar with his 9-year-old son."

Unlike Sylvia, if I was the mother I would not approve of this way to raise my child.

sthomson · 4th December 2008, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

WILLIAMS: Back to you over this way. Yes, ma'am? She'll hold it. Yes, ma'am?
Unidentified Woman #8: Hi, Sylvia. I just wanted to know, where do you see my career going? I'm going to school right now to get my master's. Where do you see me?
Ms. BROWNE: In therapy.
Woman #8: Do you see me...
WILLIAMS: Do you see her in therapy, or as a therapist?
Ms. BROWNE: No. Getting into therapy work. Helping people, working with people.
Woman #8: Do you see me teaching?
Ms. BROWNE: I see you doing therapy.
WILLIAMS: That's what she sees.
Ms. BROWNE: Doing therapy, not in therapy.
Woman #8: OK. But you--because I'm going to school right now for teaching.
Ms. BROWNE: I don't give a rat's whatever. What I'm trying to tell you is you get into therapy.
WILLIAMS: And on that note, please welcome Tom. Where's Tom? See, wait. I got to say it. It's so funny. Now, before--before every show that we do here, I'm sorry, but I'll let the audience at home in on this, I go through a whole list of rules, OK? One of those things I say is that you came a long way to ask Sylvia questions. If you came this far away, don't come here to have her validate what you say. Listen to what she says.
Ms. BROWNE: That's what I always say to them on the phone if they argue with me, `Why did you spend your money to call me?'
WILLIAMS: Don't bother calling!
Ms. BROWNE: If you know the future, why do you call me?
WILLIAMS: And you know, speaking of that, this person doesn't know the future, and didn't know the--

I know this is off topic, but I just have to say -- what a piece of work these two are, Browne and Williams I mean. Not only is Browne a cold reader, she's a TERRIBLE cold reader.

kittynh · 4th December 2008, 01:56 PM

oh my ED!

Great job there. I mean he's a drug dealer... how did he even get custody of the kid?

EeneyMinnieMoe · 4th December 2008, 07:43 PM

Here's a link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28017060/

Ah, I see our boy Thomas has been very busy finding the real killers of his girlfriend!

What in the world is wrong with this man?

Granted, there are many places in the world where it's perfectly acceptable to take a child to be a tavern (although it depends on what kind of place it is). My own parents and other extended family members did take me and my sister with them once in a while when they grabbed a drink.

Still, if quite probably murdering his girlfriend and dealing drugs wasn't enough to make him lose custody of his son, this should be it.

Edit: Was anyone else offended by Sylvia's "I don't give a rat's whatever" comment? Way to handle someone when they tell you that your prediction is wrong.

Seanette · 4th December 2008, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by billydkid

I guess I should have included a smiley. I was being sarcastic. I take forgranted that most people in here know me.

On behalf of any other newer posters who don't yet have everyone in here figured out, thanks for clarifying.

Lonewulf · 5th December 2008, 05:00 AM

So... a guy comes up saying that the police "don't have anything on me"... and Sylvia immediately spins a story of some Hispanic gangsters that are REALLY to blame.

I have a question: Doesn't Sylvia Browne's organization claim that she doesn't always get her predictions right? That there's room for failure? I know that this is a "get out of jail free" excuse, to excuse the "few times" (hah!) she gets things wrong, but...

Even assuming Sylvia were telling the truth (Yes, yes, I know, might as well accept that the moon is made of gray swiss cheese...), wouldn't there still be something immoral about saying who is and isn't guilty of a crime (and by that effect, making the person you're talking to out to be innocent), simply on account on the chances of failure?

She'd be disgusting even if her lies were reality.

Moochie · 5th December 2008, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by billydkid

Sylvia Browne is a heroic and noble person sacrificing herself in the service of others. If only we had more Sylvia Brownes. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Sylvia Browne is a saint and God himself has granted her this great gift so that she may unselfishly give of herself to others and make the world a brighter place for us all. Additionally, she is a stunningly beautiful woman with a grace and elegance barely matched in nature. Every bit as lovely on the inside as she is on the outside. That in this universe such a creature should live and breath.

Well, I'm only 58, and I'm tellin' you bro', if I were 100 years older I'd marry me that there gal!

M.

Chimera · 6th December 2008, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

Edit: Was anyone else offended by Sylvia's "I don't give a rat's whatever" comment? Way to handle someone when they tell you that your prediction is wrong.

This struck me as was the nastiest part of her reading. I can't believe people put such stock into what she says when she is such an abusive old hag.

Originally Posted by Edges

Not that this has anything to do with anything, but I think it's interesting that the boyfriend said to Browne, "There was nothing on me," not "I didn't kill her." Interesting choice of words, seems like a callous way to refer to being accused and tried of killing his girlfriend. Maybe it's just me, but he seems more angry that they went after him with no evidence, not that they went after him.

Yes, the way he worded this makes me think he is guilty.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 17th February 2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Lonewulf

So... a guy comes up saying that the police "don't have anything on me"... and Sylvia immediately spins a story of some Hispanic gangsters that are REALLY to blame.

Do you notice that besides it always being a "dark complected" or Hispanic killer (and on one occasion, a "Cuban-looking" kidnapper and on another, a "mulatto" who was also a homosexual), there is always "a female" who is really to blame?

Take that sad story of that teenager in Delaware who murdered his stepmother that Sylvia inserted herself into. His mother comes on wanting to know who else could be to blame and Sylvia tells her "a female" put him up to it.

Well, the murder of Carrie Ann was briefly profiled in this 2007 book:

http://books.google.com/books?id=UOl...um=6&ct=result

And, as far as I can tell, there have been no new developements on it in years. No one ever charged besides the boyfriend.

21st March 2008, 10:27 PM	#1
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Need help with homicide (this is worth reading besides) http://www.lexisnexis.com.proxy.wexl...157447&docNo=2 ... WILLIAMS: I'm going to take a little break. When we come back, a man who was acquitted of his girlfriend's murder searches for the real killer. We'll be back right after this. Ms. BROWNE: Sort of like "The Fugitive." (Announcements) WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am, you had a question for Sylvia. Unidentified Woman #6: My niece, who was murdered in October of 2004, I believe she's on the other side, and I'd like to know who is with her. Ms. BROWNE: There is someone by the name, common name, John, but he is thick build. And there is also somebody by the name of Howard. So would you check and find out who that is? Woman #6: Thank you. WILLIAMS: Absolutely. Yes, ma'am. Unidentified Woman #7: Hi, Sylvia. Hi, Montel. I just completed my degree, and I would like to know, what does my future hold as far as my career? Ms. BROWNE: Teaching. Woman #7: Teaching? Ms. BROWNE: Yes. Woman #7: OK. Thank you. Ms. BROWNE: That's easy. WILLIAMS: Back to you over this way. Yes, ma'am? She'll hold it. Yes, ma'am? Unidentified Woman #8: Hi, Sylvia. I just wanted to know, where do you see my career going? I'm going to school right now to get my master's. Where do you see me? Ms. BROWNE: In therapy. Woman #8: Do you see me... WILLIAMS: Do you see her in therapy, or as a therapist? Ms. BROWNE: No. Getting into therapy work. Helping people, working with people. Woman #8: Do you see me teaching? Ms. BROWNE: I see you doing therapy. WILLIAMS: That's what she sees. Ms. BROWNE: Doing therapy, not in therapy. Woman #8: OK. But you--because I'm going to school right now for teaching. Ms. BROWNE: I don't give a rat's whatever. What I'm trying to tell you is you get into therapy. WILLIAMS: And on that note, please welcome Tom. Where's Tom? See, wait. I got to say it. It's so funny. Now, before--before every show that we do here, I'm sorry, but I'll let the audience at home in on this, I go through a whole list of rules, OK? One of those things I say is that you came a long way to ask Sylvia questions. If you came this far away, don't come here to have her validate what you say. Listen to what she says. Ms. BROWNE: That's what I always say to them on the phone if they argue with me, `Why did you spend your money to call me?' WILLIAMS: Don't bother calling! Ms. BROWNE: If you know the future, why do you call me? WILLIAMS: And you know, speaking of that, this person doesn't know the future, and didn't know the--Tom... Ms. BROWNE: That's right. And how many people have come back to me and said, `I never believe what you said until it happens.' WILLIAMS: There you go. Now, Tom, you came here for another reason, sir. What did you want to find out? TOM: Up until October 3rd, 2002, I lived with my girlfriend, the woman I loved, the mother of my son. On that evening, she was coming home from work at 1 in the morning. She didn't show up at home at 2:00, I called her, I called the police, I called everybody. They came out to the house, they found her car 500 yards up the street from the house. They couldn't find her for a day and a half. The police were everywhere. They looked over me, and--and searched my house. And the found her a day and a half later, wrapped in plastic, with a gunshot wound to her head, by a dumpster. Throughout the next year and a half, they couldn't find any evidence, no DNA, no clues. They searched my house again, they interviewed me several times. And then they ended up charging me with first-degree murder for my girlfriend, September 15th, last year. I just got acquitted in February. The trial was absolutely ridiculous. There was nothing on me. Ms. BROWNE: I know. TOM: Sylvia, I'd like to know who killed my girlfriend. Ms. BROWNE: This was--this was three Hispanic males. It was a gang situation. TOM: Did somebody put them up to this? Ms. BROWNE: Mm-hmm. TOM: Do you have a name? Ms. BROWNE: His name is--starts with a C. TOM: With a C. First name or last name? Ms. BROWNE: Last name. TOM: Last name. Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. TOM: Does he work for law enforcement? Ms. BROWNE: Yes. TOM: Sylvia, what happened? How did her car get there? Ms. BROWNE: Pardon me? TOM: How did her car get to that side of the road? Ms. BROWNE: Listen, if you have the wherewithal, you can get a car anywhere. TOM: The--the last question is... Ms. BROWNE: She didn't suffer. TOM: And is she proud of the way I'm taking care of our son? Ms. BROWNE: Oh, of course she is. And she says she's also proud of the way that you also read to him, and everything. Because she's with you when you do that. TOM: OK. This Mr. C, what does--what does he look like? Ms. BROWNE: Blond hair, blue eyes. TOM: All right. ...
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21st March 2008, 11:00 PM	#3
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Bingo. The missing person's press release: http://www.chesterfield.gov/PublicAf...lay.asp?ID=815 http://www.lexisnexis.com.proxy.wexl...152567&docNo=9 Richmond Times Dispatch (Virginia) September 18, 2004 Saturday City Edition BOYFRIEND CHARGED IN SLAYING/ INDICTMENT COMES TWO YEARS AFTER DEATH OF HOOTERS WAITRESS/ BYLINE: MARK BOWES/ Times-Dispatch Staff Writer/ Contact Mark Bowes at (804) 649-6450 or mbowes@timesdispatch.com/ Alan Cooper contributed to this story. SECTION: AREA/STATE; Pg. A-1 LENGTH: 838 words Nearly two years after the body of Carrie Ann Williams, a part-time Hooters waitress, was found wrapped in plastic beside a South Richmond trash bin, police have charged her former boyfriend in the slaying. Chesterfield police yesterday served Raleigh Thomas Campbell, 35, with a first-degree murder indictment that was returned a day earlier by a Richmond regional multijurisdictional grand jury. Campbell, who was a suspect from the earliest stages, already is serving time at the Powhatan Correctional Center for a drug offense. He was sentenced late last year to 19 months in prison for distributing Ecstasy to a police informant in Chesterfield. He also was sentenced to suspended terms of 10 years for the distribution of Ecstasy and methamphetamine on other occasions. The distributions occurred in August, November and December 2001, and he was indicted a few months later, well before Williams was killed. In announcing the murder indictment, police emphasized their investigation is continuing. Campbell was not charged with using a firearm in Williams' slaying, although she was shot to death. She died of a gunshot wound to the right side of her head, according to the state medical examiner's office. Police shared no new details yesterday about how they believe Williams was killed or what evidence they may have linking Campbell to the crime. "We are absolutely sure that we've arrested the right person," said Chesterfield police Maj. Warner W. Williams. David E. Boone, Campbell's attorney, said his client has "cooperated fully" with Chesterfield authorities "from the moment he learned of her death." "He's given everything from DNA samples voluntarily, he's met with the officers repeatedly, he's allowed them to search his house several times," Boone said. "He's cooperated 100 percent, and yet all along they've told him and me that he's their lead suspect I think because he was the boyfriend, and they always look at the boyfriend or spouse as having the motive." But aside from their relationship, Boone said, "I'm not aware of any evidence suggesting that he would want to do harm to her, and I've been in the loop from the get-go." Boone said that unlike the Scott Peterson case currently being tried in California, Campbell "was extremely upset about [Williams' death] from the very beginning. He has been very teary-eyed for a long time. His actions from the beginning were certainly of those of a person who had nothing to hide. "He's adamant that he had nothing to do with it," Boone added. Williams, a 26-year-old Chesterfield mother, disappearedearly Oct. 3 after leaving her part-time job as a waitress at the Hooters restaurant on Huguenot Road. Her new Mercedes was found later that morning on Otterdale Road, just 500 or so yards from the Hampton Glen Mews home she shared with Williams and their then 3-year-old son. Her body was found the next day, wrapped in plastic, at the Timbercreek Apartments on Chateau Court in South Richmond. The discovery came 31 hours after she was seen leaving the restaurant at 12:45 a.m. Official sources say the preliminary autopsy revealed that Williams had bruising on her wrists and other parts of her body, indicating she had been bound or held down and perhaps beaten prior to being shot. Her bra, panties and some of her outer clothing had been cut, and one leg of her pantyhose had been ripped away. Human hairs not belonging to her were found on her body or her clothing, according to the autopsy report. Last year, police officials said they were almost certain that Williams was abducted from the Otterdale Road location where her car was found. At the time, they said it remained unclear whether Williams was sexually assaulted before she was shot in the head. Shortly before she was killed, Williams made an appointment with a financial planner so she could make a will. That financial planner told The Times-Dispatch that Williams voiced concern about custody issues regarding her son in the event of her death. About the time of her death, Williams and Campbell, an auto broker, had been living together for about a year at the Hampton Glen Mews home in the wake of an estrangement that saw Williams and her son living with her parents in Powhatan County. Court records show Williams had filed for child support payments from Campbell, and he, in turn, had filed for custody of the boy before the couple reconciled. The case has been an exhaustive one for detectives, primarily the department's major-case squad. "The detectives, with the assistance of the commonwealth's attorney, did an outstanding job on this case," Warner said. "I would not classify this as a cold case, because they never closed it. They continued to work on this thing it's going to be two years next month since this happened to put this together." On the Web For an archive of stories in this case, see . PERSON: CARRIE ANN WILLIAMS (95%); THOMAS J CAMPBELL (92%); DAVID E BOONE (71%);
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22nd March 2008, 06:33 AM	#5
ExMinister RSL Acolyte Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,749	C is a blond haired, blue eyed Hispanic? It seems she can't even remember what she's said from one sentence to the next.
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22nd March 2008, 08:21 AM	#9
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22nd March 2008, 08:26 AM	#10
krelnik Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,185	Now I'd be the last person to defend Sylvia, but I feel compelled to point out that the arrested suspect's (i.e. the boyfriend) last name DOES begin with a 'C'. Of course, this raises several questions, including: Does he have blond hair and blue eyes? And more importantly, why didn't Sylvia just say "it was you"? All of that notwithstanding, it appears he was eventually acquitted! http://www.legalspring.com/Articles/...ay-with-m.html Quote: Boyfriend acquitted of killing Hooters waitress Richmond Times-Dispatch Feb 17, 2005 The boyfriend of slain Hooters waitress Carrie Ann Williams was acquitted today of abducting and killing her more than two years ago. A Chesterfield County Circuit Court jury deliberated for an hour and 45 minutes this afternoon before acquitting Raleigh Thomas Campbell, a 35-year-old auto broker. Quote: Several times Campbell made statements that included details only the murderer could have known, O'Connell told the jurors. During the trial, Jacob Alan Shouse, a state prison inmate with a history of mental illness, testified that he had killed Williams. However, a Patrick County investigator who has known Shouse for years testified that Shouse seldom told the truth about anything.
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21st March 2008, 10:38 PM	#2
NewtonTrino Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 3,782	Jesus, I hadn't read any of this Sylvia stuff before this. This is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING and HORRIBLE. I fear for the future of humanity. The one positive is that we've come this far even against some formidible opponents like organized religion etc.

21st March 2008, 11:12 PM	#4
JoeEllison Cuddly Like a Koala Bear Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 7,276	Can we get a focus on Browne's racism? She did this with the Shawn Hornbeck case, and she's doing it again. She just tosses out "Hispanics" as a catch-all.

22nd March 2008, 06:49 AM	#6
Lisa Simpson THE Lisa Simpson Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 123 Fake Street Posts: 20,054	Originally Posted by ExMinister C is a blond haired, blue eyed Hispanic? It seems she can't even remember what she's said from one sentence to the next. Hispanic isn't a racial definition, but a social one. It refers to anyone who comes from a Spanish-speaking country. Therefore, you could easily have a blond/blue-eyed Hispanic person.
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22nd March 2008, 07:23 AM	#7
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,591	In this story I think the blonde-haired blue-eyed person is supposed to be the police officer who put the 3 Hispanics up to it. If Tom had then gone out and blown away a cop he knows who fits that description would there be an liability on SB's part?
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22nd March 2008, 07:58 AM	#8
ExMinister RSL Acolyte Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,749	Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson Hispanic isn't a racial definition, but a social one. It refers to anyone who comes from a Spanish-speaking country. Therefore, you could easily have a blond/blue-eyed Hispanic person. Yep, very true, though Sylvia just makes all this crap up anyway. GT/CS, though, also correctly points out that it's the individual who put them up to it who was blond haired and blue eyed, so ExM will now go drink some coffee and officially wake up before posting further.
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22nd March 2008, 09:37 AM	#11
dahduh Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cape Town Posts: 360	Ha ha ha Hee hee hee Slivia's got 'em to a tee - She'll take some sap And spout some crap Then smack 'em with a great big fee.

22nd March 2008, 09:48 AM	#12
Steven Howard Custom Title Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Long Beach, California Posts: 1,798	Originally Posted by krelnik All of that notwithstanding, it appears he was eventually acquitted! He'd already been acquitted at the time he talked to Sylvia.
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22nd March 2008, 09:50 AM	#13
krelnik Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,185	Oh, you're right. I missed that in the transcript. Thanks for pointing that out!
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22nd March 2008, 02:31 PM	#14
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Here's another picture of Carrie Ann: http://inrich.kaango.com/feViewAd/11595249 Isn't this a shame? Isn't it terrible? If Mr. Campbell is innocent of his common law wife's murder- which I'm not entirely convinced of based on what I've read- the last thing he and Ms. Williams' family needs is a fraud and a liar interfering with the real investigation. If Mr.Campbell is guilty and is using this as a cover, Browne and Williams are assisting a killer despicably affect a grieving partner. Either way, I'm offended by this: "WILLIAMS: I'm going to take a little break. When we come back, a man who was acquitted of his girlfriend's murder searches for the real killer. We'll be back right after this. Ms. BROWNE: Sort of like "The Fugitive." " "Sort of like 'The Fugitive' "?! And Shawn Hornbeck was kidnapped and molested! Sort of like "Mystic River"! And Holly Krewson was kidnapped and murdered! Sort of like "Law and Order!"!
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22nd March 2008, 02:39 PM	#15
Moochie Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,495	Originally Posted by krelnik Now I'd be the last person to defend Sylvia, but I feel compelled to point out that the arrested suspect's (i.e. the boyfriend) last name DOES begin with a 'C'. Of course, this raises several questions, including: Does he have blond hair and blue eyes? And more importantly, why didn't Sylvia just say "it was you"? All of that notwithstanding, it appears he was eventually acquitted! http://www.legalspring.com/Articles/...ay-with-m.html Well, let's get serious here. The deceased person's first name also begins with a C. Could it be, could it possibly be, that she hired the three stooges to murder her? Did she have blond hair and blue eyes? The mind boggles! M.
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9th November 2008, 08:18 PM	#16
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Here's another link pertaining to the case: http://www.richmond.com/news-features/7371 I don't know if the boyfriend did it or not but he sounds like some piece of work. The man was in jail on several felonies before he was indicted for a murder! Now that takes some doing! Almost everyone deserves a second chance and you certainly can be a good person and have a substance abuse problem, of course, but he sounds like a dangerous creep.
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9th November 2008, 08:34 PM	#17
Edges Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 279	Not that this has anything to do with anything, but I think it's interesting that the boyfriend said to Browne, "There was nothing on me," not "I didn't kill her." Interesting choice of words, seems like a callous way to refer to being accused and tried of killing his girlfriend. Maybe it's just me, but he seems more angry that they went after him with no evidence, not that they went after him. Browne's accusing hispanics reminds me of the Runaway Bride (I forget her name, Jessica or something similar) who said one of her "kidnappers" was a hispanic male. Why hispanics? Off topic, but her "reading" for the woman that was in school for teaching pissed me off. Not only was she really rude to this woman, she said "I'm telling you to go into therapy." That's not seeing the future, that's giving career advice.

10th November 2008, 10:51 AM	#18
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Did you notice that the man asked SB if the person who set up the murder was in law enforcement? He fed that to her after she, as usual, blamed a group of phantom young Hispanic men. And that his explanation for his arrest for drug possession was also some cock-and-bull story about being set up by police officers? This, to me, points quite strongly to his guilt- but if he actually had nothing to do with his girlfriend's murder, he's not helping himself by raving about a constant police conspiracy against him. Just like with the woman killed by her son-in-law, here's another case where Sylvia Browne might be helping a killer play a concerned family member.
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10th November 2008, 04:49 PM	#19
billydkid Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Blanchester, OH Posts: 4,930	Sylvia Browne is a heroic and noble person sacrificing herself in the service of others. If only we had more Sylvia Brownes. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Sylvia Browne is a saint and God himself has granted her this great gift so that she may unselfishly give of herself to others and make the world a brighter place for us all. Additionally, she is a stunningly beautiful woman with a grace and elegance barely matched in nature. Every bit as lovely on the inside as she is on the outside. That in this universe such a creature should live and breath.
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10th November 2008, 05:31 PM	#20
Lrrr Stealth Hug Ninja Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Reality Posts: 163	One documented instance of where she was right. Just one. That's all we ask. We're still waiting.

10th November 2008, 05:49 PM	#21
Brian-M Daydreamer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Downunder Posts: 4,262	Originally Posted by Lrrr One documented instance of where she was right. Just one. That's all we ask. We're still waiting. With all the predictions she makes, she has to be right some of the time, if only by chance. After all, a even broken clock tells the right time twice a day. Maybe her failure to give accurate predictions could count as a psychic talent.
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10th November 2008, 06:12 PM	#22
ExMinister RSL Acolyte Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,749	Originally Posted by billydkid Sylvia Browne is a heroic and noble person sacrificing herself in the service of others. If only we had more Sylvia Brownes. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Sylvia Browne is a saint and God himself has granted her this great gift so that she may unselfishly give of herself to others and make the world a brighter place for us all. Additionally, she is a stunningly beautiful woman with a grace and elegance barely matched in nature. *Every bit as lovely on the inside as she is on the outside.* That in this universe such a creature should live and breath. I'll go along with the part in bold.
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10th November 2008, 06:23 PM	#23
desertgal Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Virginia City Posts: 3,232	Originally Posted by billydkid Sylvia Browne is a heroic and noble person sacrificing herself in the service of others. If only we had more Sylvia Brownes. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Sylvia Browne is a saint and God himself has granted her this great gift so that she may unselfishly give of herself to others and make the world a brighter place for us all. Additionally, she is a stunningly beautiful woman with a grace and elegance barely matched in nature. Every bit as lovely on the inside as she is on the outside. That in this universe such a creature should live and breath. Oh, come ON. Look, if you want to believe in her 'abilities', that is your choice. But, jeez, give the "angel on earth" shtick a rest. She isn't a saint, she doesn't unselfishly give of herself, she's hardly stunningly beautiful, and she's a human being, not the reincarnation of Mary Magdalene. Her lack of authenticity has been exhaustively documented, unlike her self proclaimed, much touted proof of authenticity.

10th November 2008, 06:26 PM	#24
desertgal Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Virginia City Posts: 3,232	Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson Hispanic isn't a racial definition, but a social one. It refers to anyone who comes from a Spanish-speaking country. Therefore, you could easily have a blond/blue-eyed Hispanic person. I agree, but I have to question whether SB looks at it that way. One has to wonder if she actually meant a blue eyed, blonde Hispanic, or, if she views Hispanics as a racial definition, if she actually did make a blunder.

10th November 2008, 06:34 PM	#25
billydkid Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Blanchester, OH Posts: 4,930	Originally Posted by desertgal Oh, come ON. Look, if you want to believe in her 'abilities', that is your choice. But, jeez, give the "angel on earth" shtick a rest. She isn't a saint, she doesn't unselfishly give of herself, she's hardly stunningly beautiful, and she's a human being, not the reincarnation of Mary Magdalene. Her lack of authenticity has been exhaustively documented, unlike her self proclaimed, much touted proof of authenticity. I guess I should have included a smiley. I was being sarcastic. I take forgranted that most people in here know me.
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10th November 2008, 06:35 PM	#26
desertgal Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Virginia City Posts: 3,232	Originally Posted by billydkid I guess I should have included a smiley. I was being sarcastic. I take forgranted that most people in here know me. Sarcasm noted and appreciated.

10th November 2008, 06:35 PM	#27
billydkid Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Blanchester, OH Posts: 4,930	Originally Posted by ExMinister I'll go along with the part in bold. That is the joke, thank you very much. The woman is a hideous troll and yes she is as lovely inside as she is out.
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10th November 2008, 09:03 PM	#28
ExMinister RSL Acolyte Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,749	Originally Posted by billydkid That is the joke, thank you very much. The woman is a hideous troll and yes she is as lovely inside as she is out. Yeah, I know, I was being snarky too.
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4th December 2008, 12:01 PM	#29
Eliz Bathory New Blood Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 13	This guy is in the news again. www [dot] nbc4i.com/midwest/cmh/news.apx.-content-articles-CMH-2008-12-02-0018.html Sorry, can't post proper links yet. From the story: "Police arrested a Henrico County man early Monday and charged him with felony child neglect and driving under the influence after he was seen at a bar with his 9-year-old son." Unlike Sylvia, if I was the mother I would not approve of this way to raise my child.
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4th December 2008, 01:50 PM	#30
sthomson Muse Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 934	Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe WILLIAMS: Back to you over this way. Yes, ma'am? She'll hold it. Yes, ma'am? Unidentified Woman #8: Hi, Sylvia. I just wanted to know, where do you see my career going? I'm going to school right now to get my master's. Where do you see me? Ms. BROWNE: In therapy. Woman #8: Do you see me... WILLIAMS: Do you see her in therapy, or as a therapist? Ms. BROWNE: No. Getting into therapy work. Helping people, working with people. Woman #8: Do you see me teaching? Ms. BROWNE: I see you doing therapy. WILLIAMS: That's what she sees. Ms. BROWNE: Doing therapy, not in therapy. Woman #8: OK. But you--because I'm going to school right now for teaching. Ms. BROWNE: I don't give a rat's whatever. What I'm trying to tell you is you get into therapy. WILLIAMS: And on that note, please welcome Tom. Where's Tom? See, wait. I got to say it. It's so funny. Now, before--before every show that we do here, I'm sorry, but I'll let the audience at home in on this, I go through a whole list of rules, OK? One of those things I say is that you came a long way to ask Sylvia questions. If you came this far away, don't come here to have her validate what you say. Listen to what she says. Ms. BROWNE: That's what I always say to them on the phone if they argue with me, `Why did you spend your money to call me?' WILLIAMS: Don't bother calling! Ms. BROWNE: If you know the future, why do you call me? WILLIAMS: And you know, speaking of that, this person doesn't know the future, and didn't know the-- I know this is off topic, but I just have to say -- what a piece of work these two are, Browne and Williams I mean. Not only is Browne a cold reader, she's a TERRIBLE cold reader.
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4th December 2008, 01:56 PM	#31
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 22,706	oh my ED! Great job there. I mean he's a drug dealer... how did he even get custody of the kid?
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4th December 2008, 07:43 PM	#32
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Here's a link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28017060/ Ah, I see our boy Thomas has been very busy finding the real killers of his girlfriend! What in the world is wrong with this man? Granted, there are many places in the world where it's perfectly acceptable to take a child to be a tavern (although it depends on what kind of place it is). My own parents and other extended family members did take me and my sister with them once in a while when they grabbed a drink. Still, if quite probably murdering his girlfriend and dealing drugs wasn't enough to make him lose custody of his son, this should be it. Edit: Was anyone else offended by Sylvia's "I don't give a rat's whatever" comment? Way to handle someone when they tell you that your prediction is wrong.
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4th December 2008, 10:25 PM	#33
Seanette Muse Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 567	Originally Posted by billydkid I guess I should have included a smiley. I was being sarcastic. I take forgranted that most people in here know me. On behalf of any other newer posters who don't yet have everyone in here figured out, thanks for clarifying.

5th December 2008, 05:00 AM	#34
Lonewulf Humanistic Cyborg Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,380	So... a guy comes up saying that the police "don't have anything on me"... and Sylvia immediately spins a story of some Hispanic gangsters that are REALLY to blame. I have a question: Doesn't Sylvia Browne's organization claim that she doesn't always get her predictions right? That there's room for failure? I know that this is a "get out of jail free" excuse, to excuse the "few times" (hah!) she gets things wrong, but... Even assuming Sylvia were telling the truth (Yes, yes, I know, might as well accept that the moon is made of gray swiss cheese...), wouldn't there still be something immoral about saying who is and isn't guilty of a crime (and by that effect, making the person you're talking to out to be innocent), simply on account on the chances of failure? She'd be disgusting even if her lies were reality.
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5th December 2008, 10:59 AM	#35
Moochie Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,495	Originally Posted by billydkid Sylvia Browne is a heroic and noble person sacrificing herself in the service of others. If only we had more Sylvia Brownes. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Sylvia Browne is a saint and God himself has granted her this great gift so that she may unselfishly give of herself to others and make the world a brighter place for us all. Additionally, she is a stunningly beautiful woman with a grace and elegance barely matched in nature. Every bit as lovely on the inside as she is on the outside. That in this universe such a creature should live and breath. Well, I'm only 58, and I'm tellin' you bro', if I were 100 years older I'd marry me that there gal! M.
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