SweatyYeti's STS-48 Shuttle Mission UFO thread.

kitakaze · 25th March 2008, 07:17 AM

I'm sure there are other threads on this subject but this thread is for member SweatyYeti's claims regarding the STS-48 Shuttle mission. As was the case with SweatyYeti's Martian Civilization Evidence Thread, I would not have any expectation for Sweaty to feel inclined to participate in a thread that focuses on his claims or acknowledge when his claims are debunked, as is consistent with his behaviour. Nevertheless, input is most welcome.

Originally posted in the PGF thread:

Originally Posted by SweatyYeti

As for UFO's....I think there is evidence of something going on in the skies, that we don't have all the 'info' on.

But, in this NASA video, taken on the STS-48 Shuttle mission...there is definitely, beyond all doubt, something strange happening....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiDvkB_rG-Q

There's an object which comes into view at 1:31 into the video, coming across the physical edge of the Earth. (Not the top, visible edge, which is the atmosphere.) The physical edge of the earth is marked with a white 'registration marker'. It's located below the "STS" in the title.

The fact that the object is seen coming over the edge of the Earth, tells us it's a large object, far away from the Shuttle...rather than a small object, near the Shuttle. It gives us a 3rd dimension, and allows for speed measurements to be made of it.
The object is very real...and accelerates very fast, off into space, at a rate that would crush an astronaut...changing direction abruptly, in a way unlike any type of spacecraft that we know about.
In addition, it reactes to a flash of light from something on the shuttle....so the shuttle and the object are interacting with each other.
It's a safe bet that the shuttle mission involved more than just what NASA made public.

kitakaze · 25th March 2008, 07:26 AM

Member Astrophotographer's response in the PGF thread:

Originally Posted by Astrophotographer

I guess you never read Oberg's take on this. I put more stock in what Oberg has to say on this matter than a bunch of conspiracy theorists.

http://www.debunker.com/texts/sts48_ufo.html

But this is about the PGF. Let's stick to that. If you want to talk about ice crystals, we can start another thread.

kitakaze · 25th March 2008, 07:31 AM

The first thing that struck me when looking at this video is that in the past I've seen being referred to as a particle beam attack on a UFO. The thing that strikes me is at the same time of the movement that is supposed to be that attack, there is a similar movement down and to the right.

Crowlogic · 25th March 2008, 07:56 AM

Oh look they've added a new pipeline to the sewer! UFO's are real absoloutely real! This is to say lights and opject like things can and to appear in the skies that defi immedate explaination. Are they visitors from outer space or inner space or even hyper space? No they're just thigs that appear in unusual circumstances and catch the attention because of. If there was anything real about UFO's (flying saucers) the entire issue would never have evolved into as many different fragments and vrieties as it has. Ignore this thread kids its designed to feed the methane belcher who created it.

Loss Leader · 25th March 2008, 08:18 AM

Are there any of these videos where the UFO isn't dust being disturbed by the shuttle's engines?

kitakaze · 25th March 2008, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Crowlogic

Oh look they've added a new pipeline to the sewer! UFO's are real absoloutely real! This is to say lights and opject like things can and to appear in the skies that defi immedate explaination. Are they visitors from outer space or inner space or even hyper space? No they're just thigs that appear in unusual circumstances and catch the attention because of. If there was anything real about UFO's (flying saucers) the entire issue would never have evolved into as many different fragments and vrieties as it has. Ignore this thread kids its designed to feed the methane belcher who created it.

OMG! Creekfreak! How did you get into Crowlogic's account and what have you done with her!?

1) I did not make the claim in the OP. I simply gave it a separate thread so as to avoid a derail, as per normal forum ettiquette.

2) You disagree with Sweaty about UFO's but you both agree the JREF is a sewer. Hope.

Astrophotographer · 25th March 2008, 09:43 AM

Just another link from oberg concerning some of the data that indicates the source for the motion.

http://www.igs.net/~hwt/zigzag.html

wahrheit · 25th March 2008, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Loss Leader

Are there any of these videos where the UFO isn't dust being disturbed by the shuttle's engines?

Yes there are. Not all of the videos show dust or jet propellant. Some UFOs are frozen astronaut wee wee glistening in the sun.

Astrophotographer · 25th March 2008, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Sweaty Yeti

There's an object which comes into view at 1:31 into the video, coming across the physical edge of the Earth. (Not the top, visible edge, which is the atmosphere.) The physical edge of the earth is marked with a white 'registration marker'. It's located below the "STS" in the title.

Is it just me or something else. I just see some drifting stuff that sometimes comes and goes. Nothing that comes from the edge of the earth's limb as if it is a large object some distance away. I would like to see Sweaty provide a better description/evaluation of what he is talking about.

wahrheit · 25th March 2008, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Astrophotographer

Is it just me or something else. I just see some drifting stuff that sometimes comes and goes. Nothing that comes from the edge of the earth's limb as if it is a large object some distance away. I would like to see Sweaty provide a better description/evaluation of what he is talking about.

No, it's not just you. The video is extremely boring. How anybody in his or her right mind could interpret anything extraterrestrial into it, is beyond me. These folks simply have not watched enough footage of the Shuttle's cameras to know any better. Plus, they are bored. They want to believe some fancy stuff is going on out there.

Locknar · 25th March 2008, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by wahrheit

They want to believe some fancy stuff is going on out there.

Bingo! They want to believe in the "woo woo"....

Crowlogic · 25th March 2008, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by kitakaze

OMG! Creekfreak! How did you get into Crowlogic's account and what have you done with her!?

1) I did not make the claim in the OP. I simply gave it a separate thread so as to avoid a derail, as per normal forum ettiquette.

2) You disagree with Sweaty about UFO's but you both agree the JREF is a sewer. Hope.

Invaded my profile so he did? Well Creekfreak is laying in a bloody pool on the floor of his trailer damn that was fun! Lots a sewers, lots a blood, no little green men.

Moochie · 25th March 2008, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Astrophotographer

Is it just me or something else. I just see some drifting stuff that sometimes comes and goes. Nothing that comes from the edge of the earth's limb as if it is a large object some distance away. I would like to see Sweaty provide a better description/evaluation of what he is talking about.

Some of it looks like tadpoles swimming upstream to me. Just what have those astronauts been up to?

M.

kitakaze · 26th March 2008, 12:24 PM

Posted by Sweaty in the PGF thread:

Originally Posted by SweatyYeti

Thanks, Hitch.

What can I say...I'm an open-minded person!

One way that I look at the possibility of alien life visiting the Earth, is that we know for a fact that suns, and solar systems, are in completely different stages of development...from 'just forming' to 'already gone'......and the lifetime of a sun is in the millions, or billions of years.
Hence, if intelligent life has ever developed on another planet somewhere, it's in all probability either way behind us, or way ahead of us, in it's stage of development. Just look at how much our level of technology has increased over the last 100 years, and think about how much more advanced another civilization would be that began 10,000, 100,000, or even a million years before us.

Who am I to say..."they can't be here"?

JohnWS · 26th March 2008, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by SweatyYeti

As for UFO's....I think there is evidence of something going on in the skies, that we don't have all the 'info' on.

I'll agree with that.

Originally Posted by SweatyYeti

One way that I look at the possibility of alien life visiting the Earth, is that we know for a fact that suns, and solar systems, are in completely different stages of development...from 'just forming' to 'already gone'......and the lifetime of a sun is in the millions, or billions of years.

But where is the evidence connecting unusual aerial phenomenon to alien civilizations? Huge leap of logic IMHO.

arthwollipot · 22nd December 2008, 05:13 PM

Personally I think it's a very large jump from "I don't know what that is" to "that's an alien spacecraft". And the jump is invariably made without any kind of supporting evidence.

http://media.libsyn.com/media/sgu5x5...2008-12-15.mp3

mikeyx · 22nd December 2008, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by kitakaze

I'm sure there are other threads on this subject but this thread is for member SweatyYeti's claims regarding the STS-48 Shuttle mission. As was the case with SweatyYeti's Martian Civilization Evidence Thread, I would not have any expectation for Sweaty to feel inclined to participate in a thread that focuses on his claims or acknowledge when his claims are debunked, as is consistent with his behaviour. Nevertheless, input is most welcome.

Originally posted in the PGF thread:

his posts are if anything, "" entertaining ""

JcR · 23rd December 2008, 05:13 AM

"Yes the great leap of conclusions and one's method to support it".
I guess it is my conclusion that these are ice particles on the most part.
Some of these particles and their trajectories seem rather close to the
camera. And it looks like they are being affected by the Shuttle itself.
"Wow" that was a big bold leap of logical assumption on my part I presume.
My mathematical assumptions being left out of it.

SweatyYeti · 23rd December 2008, 12:29 PM

JohnWS wrote:

Quote:

But where is the evidence connecting unusual aerial phenomenon to alien civilizations? Huge leap of logic IMHO.

There have been....no doubt...many instances when these "aerial phenomenon" are best described as unexplainable , rather than simply as unusual.

There are countless things, in everyday life, which are "unusual".....but not nearly as many things, or events, in life which are "unexplainable".

There is a "Huge leap, or difference" between the two characterizations of UFO sighting reports........and "unexplainable" is the reason why some people's minds consider the possibility that some of these events may involve ET's.

kitakaze · 23rd December 2008, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by SweatyYeti

There have been....no doubt...many instances when these "aerial phenomenon" are best described as unexplainable , rather than simply as unusual.

Let's not beat around the bush. Alien visitation is an explanation. That's the one you're talking about.

kitakaze · 15th November 2010, 09:26 PM

From a Bigfoot thread...

Originally Posted by SweatyYeti

Originally Posted by Aepervius

Off topic, but funnily the same point is made on UFO on regular basis. Who is seeing UFO ? never the pro, the astronomer, etc... Always the people with a decided lack of knowledge in astronomy/weather/military/etc... I see an interresting parallel here.

Do you think NASA has seen the UFO/S on the STS-48 Space Shuttle Video, Aepervius??

Check out the mighty fancy footwork of the "ice crystals"...

...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9AFs67Xjes

Bonus UFO's......courtesy of NASA...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJyuQVIFdKo&NR=1

25th March 2008, 07:17 AM	#1
kitakaze Resident DJ/NSA Supermole Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind the decks in Tokyo, Japan/Victoria, Canada Posts: 9,461	SweatyYeti's STS-48 Shuttle Mission UFO thread. I'm sure there are other threads on this subject but this thread is for member SweatyYeti's claims regarding the STS-48 Shuttle mission. As was the case with SweatyYeti's Martian Civilization Evidence Thread, I would not have any expectation for Sweaty to feel inclined to participate in a thread that focuses on his claims or acknowledge when his claims are debunked, as is consistent with his behaviour. Nevertheless, input is most welcome. Originally posted in the PGF thread: Originally Posted by SweatyYeti As for UFO's....I think there is evidence of something going on in the skies, that we don't have all the 'info' on. But, in this NASA video, taken on the STS-48 Shuttle mission...there is definitely, beyond all doubt, something strange happening.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiDvkB_rG-Q There's an object which comes into view at 1:31 into the video, coming across the physical edge of the Earth. (Not the top, visible edge, which is the atmosphere.) The physical edge of the earth is marked with a white 'registration marker'. It's located below the "STS" in the title. The fact that the object is seen coming over the edge of the Earth, tells us it's a large object, far away from the Shuttle...rather than a small object, near the Shuttle. It gives us a 3rd dimension, and allows for speed measurements to be made of it. The object is very real...and accelerates very fast, off into space, at a rate that would crush an astronaut...changing direction abruptly, in a way unlike any type of spacecraft that we know about. In addition, it reactes to a flash of light from something on the shuttle....so the shuttle and the object are interacting with each other. It's a safe bet that the shuttle mission involved more than just what NASA made public.
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25th March 2008, 07:26 AM	#2
kitakaze Resident DJ/NSA Supermole Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind the decks in Tokyo, Japan/Victoria, Canada Posts: 9,461	Member Astrophotographer's response in the PGF thread: Originally Posted by Astrophotographer I guess you never read Oberg's take on this. I put more stock in what Oberg has to say on this matter than a bunch of conspiracy theorists. http://www.debunker.com/texts/sts48_ufo.html But this is about the PGF. Let's stick to that. If you want to talk about ice crystals, we can start another thread.
	__________________ Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6

25th March 2008, 07:31 AM	#3
kitakaze Resident DJ/NSA Supermole Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind the decks in Tokyo, Japan/Victoria, Canada Posts: 9,461	The first thing that struck me when looking at this video is that in the past I've seen being referred to as a particle beam attack on a UFO. The thing that strikes me is at the same time of the movement that is supposed to be that attack, there is a similar movement down and to the right.
	__________________ Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6

25th March 2008, 07:56 AM	#4
Crowlogic Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Crows Nest At Large Posts: 1,379	Oh look they've added a new pipeline to the sewer! UFO's are real absoloutely real! This is to say lights and opject like things can and to appear in the skies that defi immedate explaination. Are they visitors from outer space or inner space or even hyper space? No they're just thigs that appear in unusual circumstances and catch the attention because of. If there was anything real about UFO's (flying saucers) the entire issue would never have evolved into as many different fragments and vrieties as it has. Ignore this thread kids its designed to feed the methane belcher who created it.
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25th March 2008, 08:18 AM	#5
Loss Leader Opinionated Jerk Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York Posts: 11,885	Are there any of these videos where the UFO isn't dust being disturbed by the shuttle's engines?
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25th March 2008, 08:29 AM	#6
kitakaze Resident DJ/NSA Supermole Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind the decks in Tokyo, Japan/Victoria, Canada Posts: 9,461	Originally Posted by Crowlogic Oh look they've added a new pipeline to the sewer! UFO's are real absoloutely real! This is to say lights and opject like things can and to appear in the skies that defi immedate explaination. Are they visitors from outer space or inner space or even hyper space? No they're just thigs that appear in unusual circumstances and catch the attention because of. If there was anything real about UFO's (flying saucers) the entire issue would never have evolved into as many different fragments and vrieties as it has. Ignore this thread kids its designed to feed the methane belcher who created it. OMG! Creekfreak! How did you get into Crowlogic's account and what have you done with her!? 1) I did not make the claim in the OP. I simply gave it a separate thread so as to avoid a derail, as per normal forum ettiquette. 2) You disagree with Sweaty about UFO's but you both agree the JREF is a sewer. Hope.
	__________________ Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6

25th March 2008, 09:43 AM	#7
Astrophotographer Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 1,890	Just another link from oberg concerning some of the data that indicates the source for the motion. http://www.igs.net/~hwt/zigzag.html

25th March 2008, 10:41 AM	#8
wahrheit Pac-Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,591	Originally Posted by Loss Leader Are there any of these videos where the UFO isn't dust being disturbed by the shuttle's engines? Yes there are. Not all of the videos show dust or jet propellant. Some UFOs are frozen astronaut wee wee glistening in the sun.
wahrheit Pac-Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,591	__________________ For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. D. Adams -- THHGTTG You're a sick man. The Atheist

25th March 2008, 11:47 AM	#9
Astrophotographer Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 1,890	Originally Posted by Sweaty Yeti There's an object which comes into view at 1:31 into the video, coming across the physical edge of the Earth. (Not the top, visible edge, which is the atmosphere.) The physical edge of the earth is marked with a white 'registration marker'. It's located below the "STS" in the title. Is it just me or something else. I just see some drifting stuff that sometimes comes and goes. Nothing that comes from the edge of the earth's limb as if it is a large object some distance away. I would like to see Sweaty provide a better description/evaluation of what he is talking about.

25th March 2008, 01:16 PM	#10
wahrheit Pac-Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,591	Originally Posted by Astrophotographer Is it just me or something else. I just see some drifting stuff that sometimes comes and goes. Nothing that comes from the edge of the earth's limb as if it is a large object some distance away. I would like to see Sweaty provide a better description/evaluation of what he is talking about. No, it's not just you. The video is extremely boring. How anybody in his or her right mind could interpret anything extraterrestrial into it, is beyond me. These folks simply have not watched enough footage of the Shuttle's cameras to know any better. Plus, they are bored. They want to believe some fancy stuff is going on out there.
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25th March 2008, 01:43 PM	#11
Locknar Sum of all evils ^tm Deputy Admin Join Date: May 2007 Location: 25.50 N, 77.54 W Posts: 14,243	Originally Posted by wahrheit They want to believe some fancy stuff is going on out there. Bingo! They want to believe in the "woo woo"....
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25th March 2008, 03:56 PM	#12
Crowlogic Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Crows Nest At Large Posts: 1,379	Originally Posted by kitakaze OMG! Creekfreak! How did you get into Crowlogic's account and what have you done with her!? 1) I did not make the claim in the OP. I simply gave it a separate thread so as to avoid a derail, as per normal forum ettiquette. 2) You disagree with Sweaty about UFO's but you both agree the JREF is a sewer. Hope. Invaded my profile so he did? Well Creekfreak is laying in a bloody pool on the floor of his trailer damn that was fun! Lots a sewers, lots a blood, no little green men.
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25th March 2008, 04:26 PM	#13
Moochie Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,495	Originally Posted by Astrophotographer Is it just me or something else. I just see some drifting stuff that sometimes comes and goes. Nothing that comes from the edge of the earth's limb as if it is a large object some distance away. I would like to see Sweaty provide a better description/evaluation of what he is talking about. Some of it looks like tadpoles swimming upstream to me. Just what have those astronauts been up to? M.
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26th March 2008, 12:24 PM	#14
kitakaze Resident DJ/NSA Supermole Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind the decks in Tokyo, Japan/Victoria, Canada Posts: 9,461	Posted by Sweaty in the PGF thread: Originally Posted by SweatyYeti Thanks, Hitch. What can I say...I'm an open-minded person! One way that I look at the possibility of alien life visiting the Earth, is that we know for a fact that suns, and solar systems, are in completely different stages of development...from 'just forming' to 'already gone'......and the lifetime of a sun is in the millions, or billions of years. Hence, if intelligent life has ever developed on another planet somewhere, it's in all probability either way behind us, or way ahead of us, in it's stage of development. Just look at how much our level of technology has increased over the last 100 years, and think about how much more advanced another civilization would be that began 10,000, 100,000, or even a million years before us. Who am I to say..."they can't be here"?
	__________________ Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6

26th March 2008, 01:46 PM	#15
JohnWS Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Downtown Atlantis (OK - Eastern UK) Posts: 311	Originally Posted by SweatyYeti As for UFO's....I think there is evidence of something going on in the skies, that we don't have all the 'info' on. I'll agree with that. Originally Posted by SweatyYeti One way that I look at the possibility of alien life visiting the Earth, is that we know for a fact that suns, and solar systems, are in completely different stages of development...from 'just forming' to 'already gone'......and the lifetime of a sun is in the millions, or billions of years. But where is the evidence connecting unusual aerial phenomenon to alien civilizations? Huge leap of logic IMHO.

22nd December 2008, 05:13 PM	#16
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22nd December 2008, 06:43 PM	#17
mikeyx Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,570	Originally Posted by kitakaze I'm sure there are other threads on this subject but this thread is for member SweatyYeti's claims regarding the STS-48 Shuttle mission. As was the case with SweatyYeti's Martian Civilization Evidence Thread, I would not have any expectation for Sweaty to feel inclined to participate in a thread that focuses on his claims or acknowledge when his claims are debunked, as is consistent with his behaviour. Nevertheless, input is most welcome. Originally posted in the PGF thread: his posts are if anything, "" entertaining ""
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23rd December 2008, 05:13 AM	#18
JcR Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Still Looking Posts: 1,244	"Yes the great leap of conclusions and one's method to support it". I guess it is my conclusion that these are ice particles on the most part. Some of these particles and their trajectories seem rather close to the camera. And it looks like they are being affected by the Shuttle itself. "Wow" that was a big bold leap of logical assumption on my part I presume. My mathematical assumptions being left out of it.

23rd December 2008, 12:29 PM	#19
SweatyYeti Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,027	JohnWS wrote: Quote: But where is the evidence connecting unusual aerial phenomenon to alien civilizations? Huge leap of logic IMHO. There have been....no doubt...many instances when these "aerial phenomenon" are best described as unexplainable , rather than simply as unusual. There are countless things, in everyday life, which are "unusual".....but not nearly as many things, or events, in life which are "unexplainable". There is a "Huge leap, or difference" between the two characterizations of UFO sighting reports........and "unexplainable" is the reason why some people's minds consider the possibility that some of these events may involve ET's.
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23rd December 2008, 06:26 PM	#20
kitakaze Resident DJ/NSA Supermole Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind the decks in Tokyo, Japan/Victoria, Canada Posts: 9,461	Originally Posted by SweatyYeti There have been....no doubt...many instances when these "aerial phenomenon" are best described as unexplainable , rather than simply as unusual. Let's not beat around the bush. Alien visitation is an explanation. That's the one you're talking about.
	__________________ Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6

15th November 2010, 09:26 PM	#21
kitakaze Resident DJ/NSA Supermole Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind the decks in Tokyo, Japan/Victoria, Canada Posts: 9,461	From a Bigfoot thread... Originally Posted by SweatyYeti Originally Posted by Aepervius Off topic, but funnily the same point is made on UFO on regular basis. Who is seeing UFO ? never the pro, the astronomer, etc... Always the people with a decided lack of knowledge in astronomy/weather/military/etc... I see an interresting parallel here. Do you think NASA has seen the UFO/S on the STS-48 Space Shuttle Video, Aepervius?? Check out the mighty fancy footwork of the "ice crystals"...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9AFs67Xjes Bonus UFO's......courtesy of NASA... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJyuQVIFdKo&NR=1
	__________________ Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6