Detailed Press Briefings

Oliver · 3rd April 2008, 08:20 AM

While I was watching all the US political, mostly rather poorly articualted and often embarrassing bickering&babbling in the last months, I completely missed to listen to one of the new Prime Minister's speeches. Yesterday I stumbled over Gordon Brown's last Press Briefing and I was shocked.

Not only did he actually answer all the questions imposed on him, but he's actually capable - and more importantly willing - to give highly detailed and articulate answers, giving details about who is working on what program and problem and what solutions the government has in mind for those:

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I AGREE

So my questions to the British members in here is:

Since such an articulate person won't get it into the White House this year anyway, are those monthly Briefings always as open and detailed as this one - and was his intelligent rhetoric one of the reasons why he got Prime Minister in the first place?

RandFan · 3rd April 2008, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Oliver

So my questions to the British members in here is:

Since such an articulate person won't get it into the White House this year anyway...

So, here is the question for non-Americans, since Americans are fat, lazy and stupid, is the French Rivera still a good place to vacation?

You really kill me Oliver.

WildCat · 3rd April 2008, 10:43 AM

Another Oliver thread, same as the rest...

Undesired Walrus · 3rd April 2008, 11:12 AM

The London Mayoral election is accountable, the words falling out of Brown's mouth are not.

Tailgater · 3rd April 2008, 11:38 AM

Watch cspan for a day and you will see alot of the same.

Quote:

Since such an articulate person won't get it into the White House this year anyway,

What does this part of the sentence....

Quote:

are those monthly Briefings always as open and detailed as this one - and was his intelligent rhetoric one of the reasons why he got Prime Minister in the first place?

.....have to do with this part.

Yup, another typical Oliver thread.

MarkCorrigan · 3rd April 2008, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Oliver

While I was watching all the US political, mostly rather poorly articualted and often embarrassing bickering&babbling in the last months, I completely missed to listen to one of the new Prime Minister's speeches. Yesterday I stumbled over Gordon Brown's last Press Briefing and I was shocked.

Not only did he actually answer all the questions imposed on him, but he's actually capable - and more importantly willing - to give highly detailed and articulate answers, giving details about who is working on what program and problem and what solutions the government has in mind for those:

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I AGREE

So my questions to the British members in here is:

Since such an articulate person won't get it into the White House this year anyway, are those monthly Briefings always as open and detailed as this one - and was his intelligent rhetoric one of the reasons why he got Prime Minister in the first place?

Do you know how our PM is selected?

Pardalis · 3rd April 2008, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Oliver

Since such an articulate person won't get it into the White House this year anyway

True, the next president will not be in office until january 2009.

ZeeGerman · 3rd April 2008, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by RandFan

So, here is the question for non-Americans, since Americans are fat, lazy and stupid, is the French Rivera still a good place to vacation?

You really kill me Oliver.

Nope, not only is it often full of French, it's also crowded with Russians these days

dudalb · 3rd April 2008, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Since such an articulate person won't get it into the White House this year anyway,

Translation: Ron Paul won't be elected this year.
Yeah, Same Old Biological Waste Matter from Oliver.

NoZed Avenger · 3rd April 2008, 01:26 PM

Perhaps you could lobby for a similar system in Germany . . . .

. . . once you start bothering to even vote.

Undesired Walrus · 3rd April 2008, 03:46 PM

Seeing how 99.9% of the population of Britain did not vote Brown in as prime minister, I think we can safely say it was not out of his intellectual ability.

Perhaps it was his ability to peel an orange, who knows.

Oliver · 4th April 2008, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by RandFan

So, here is the question for non-Americans, since Americans are fat, lazy and stupid, is the French Rivera still a good place to vacation?

You really kill me Oliver.

Huh? I doubt that there are a lot of lazy and stupid people in the US Government. The point rather is that you don't hear a lot of straight talk in White House Press Briefings nor within the election process. That's why it was almost shocking to listen to the Prime Ministers speech - in a positive way: No "emotion appeals" but facts and clear answers.

Originally Posted by Tailgater

Watch cspan for a day and you will see alot of the same.

What does this part of the sentence....
.....have to do with this part.

Yup, another typical Oliver thread.

Well, I doubt that straight talk will get you into the highest public position for the reasons above.

Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan

Do you know how our PM is selected?

If I'm not mistaken, he's appointed by the leading parties leadership, right?
But I don't know for sure if the Prime Minister has to be a member of the Parliament to get appointed.

Originally Posted by dudalb

Translation: Ron Paul won't be elected this year.
Yeah, Same Old Biological Waste Matter from Oliver.

Ron Paul certainly isn't a great speaker - unfortunately. But he certainly is a straight talker, no matter if you're opposed to the content of his speeches or not.

Oliver · 4th April 2008, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Pardalis

True, the next president will not be in office until january 2009.

Are there similar monthly briefings by Mr. Harper? Would be interesting to listen to what he has to say about geopolitical topics.

MarkCorrigan · 4th April 2008, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by Oliver

If I'm not mistaken, he's appointed by the leading parties leadership, right?
But I don't know for sure if the Prime Minister has to be a member of the Parliament to get appointed.

Nope.

He IS the leader of the party. Each of the party leaders will become PM if the party wins the general election. The leadership of the party is (can at any rate) be voted for by all members of the party, whether they are actually government members or grassroots ones. If the party leader loses his seat in government even if his party wins he cannot be made PM unless he is immediately seated in the House of Lords.

Oliver · 4th April 2008, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan

Nope.

He IS the leader of the party. Each of the party leaders will become PM if the party wins the general election. The leadership of the party is (can at any rate) be voted for by all members of the party, whether they are actually government members or grassroots ones. If the party leader loses his seat in government even if his party wins he cannot be made PM unless he is immediately seated in the House of Lords.

So how does someone get the party leader in the first place - who appoints him?

MarkCorrigan · 4th April 2008, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by Oliver

So how does someone get the party leader in the first place - who appoints him?

Really? From my post which you quoted.

Quote:

The leadership of the party is (can at any rate) be voted for by all members of the party, whether they are actually government members or grassroots ones.

RandFan · 4th April 2008, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Oliver

Huh?

I know, it hurts. Try rubbing your temples. It helps.

3rd April 2008, 08:49 AM	#2
RandFan Mormon Atheist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 53,398	Originally Posted by Oliver So my questions to the British members in here is: Since such an articulate person won't get it into the White House this year anyway... So, here is the question for non-Americans, since Americans are fat, lazy and stupid, is the French Rivera still a good place to vacation? You really kill me Oliver.
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3rd April 2008, 11:38 AM	#5
Tailgater Illuminator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,212	Watch cspan for a day and you will see alot of the same. Quote: Since such an articulate person won't get it into the White House this year anyway, What does this part of the sentence.... Quote: are those monthly Briefings always as open and detailed as this one - and was his intelligent rhetoric one of the reasons why he got Prime Minister in the first place? .....have to do with this part. Yup, another typical Oliver thread.
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3rd April 2008, 12:20 PM	#8
ZeeGerman Muse Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Just far enough from Detroit that it's OK Posts: 784	Originally Posted by RandFan So, here is the question for non-Americans, since Americans are fat, lazy and stupid, is the French Rivera still a good place to vacation? You really kill me Oliver. Nope, not only is it often full of French, it's also crowded with Russians these days
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3rd April 2008, 03:46 PM	#11
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 10,893	Seeing how 99.9% of the population of Britain did not vote Brown in as prime minister, I think we can safely say it was not out of his intellectual ability. Perhaps it was his ability to peel an orange, who knows.
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3rd April 2008, 10:43 AM	#3
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,111	Another Oliver thread, same as the rest...

3rd April 2008, 11:44 AM	#7
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	Originally Posted by Oliver Since such an articulate person won't get it into the White House this year anyway True, the next president will not be in office until january 2009.

3rd April 2008, 12:53 PM	#9
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,848	Quote: Since such an articulate person won't get it into the White House this year anyway, Translation: Ron Paul won't be elected this year. Yeah, Same Old Biological Waste Matter from Oliver.

3rd April 2008, 01:26 PM	#10
NoZed Avenger Bitter Whiner Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 11,313	Perhaps you could lobby for a similar system in Germany . . . . . . . once you start bothering to even vote.

4th April 2008, 03:58 AM	#12
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Originally Posted by RandFan So, here is the question for non-Americans, since Americans are fat, lazy and stupid, is the French Rivera still a good place to vacation? You really kill me Oliver. Huh? I doubt that there are a lot of lazy and stupid people in the US Government. The point rather is that you don't hear a lot of straight talk in White House Press Briefings nor within the election process. That's why it was almost shocking to listen to the Prime Ministers speech - in a positive way: No "emotion appeals" but facts and clear answers. Originally Posted by Tailgater Watch cspan for a day and you will see alot of the same. What does this part of the sentence.... .....have to do with this part. Yup, another typical Oliver thread. Well, I doubt that straight talk will get you into the highest public position for the reasons above. Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan Do you know how our PM is selected? If I'm not mistaken, he's appointed by the leading parties leadership, right? But I don't know for sure if the Prime Minister has to be a member of the Parliament to get appointed. Originally Posted by dudalb Translation: Ron Paul won't be elected this year. Yeah, Same Old Biological Waste Matter from Oliver. Ron Paul certainly isn't a great speaker - unfortunately. But he certainly is a straight talker, no matter if you're opposed to the content of his speeches or not.
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4th April 2008, 04:03 AM	#13
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Originally Posted by Pardalis True, the next president will not be in office until january 2009. Are there similar monthly briefings by Mr. Harper? Would be interesting to listen to what he has to say about geopolitical topics.
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4th April 2008, 04:19 AM	#14
MarkCorrigan Winter is Coming Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Middle of nowhere, UK. Posts: 7,121	Originally Posted by Oliver If I'm not mistaken, he's appointed by the leading parties leadership, right? But I don't know for sure if the Prime Minister has to be a member of the Parliament to get appointed. Nope. He IS the leader of the party. Each of the party leaders will become PM if the party wins the general election. The leadership of the party is (can at any rate) be voted for by all members of the party, whether they are actually government members or grassroots ones. If the party leader loses his seat in government even if his party wins he cannot be made PM unless he is immediately seated in the House of Lords.
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4th April 2008, 05:04 AM	#15
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Originally Posted by MarkCorrigan Nope. He IS the leader of the party. Each of the party leaders will become PM if the party wins the general election. The leadership of the party is (can at any rate) be voted for by all members of the party, whether they are actually government members or grassroots ones. If the party leader loses his seat in government even if his party wins he cannot be made PM unless he is immediately seated in the House of Lords. So how does someone get the party leader in the first place - who appoints him?
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4th April 2008, 07:14 AM	#16
MarkCorrigan Winter is Coming Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Middle of nowhere, UK. Posts: 7,121	Originally Posted by Oliver So how does someone get the party leader in the first place - who appoints him? Really? From my post which you quoted. Quote: The leadership of the party is (can at any rate) be voted for by all members of the party, whether they are actually government members or grassroots ones.
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4th April 2008, 11:41 PM	#17
RandFan Mormon Atheist Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 53,398	Originally Posted by Oliver Huh? I know, it hurts. Try rubbing your temples. It helps.
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