bamboo randi contract

yellowbamboo · 4th October 2003, 08:17 PM

Okay some people have said that mr randi claims there is no contract with yellow bamboo- we have never heard this but many people have asked for a copy of the contract. We tried to attach a photo of it but there is an error message sying its too big will someone pls email me at yellowbamboo.com and ill email it to them? . The signatory page with randi notarized and the waiver of liability which states the conditions of the test.

Also see some commentary based on randi latest web site.
Mr Randi has said if we pay his costs and he has the time he will come to bali to do the test.

Hi Mr Randi,

I read with interest your latest webpage and have some commentary. I mean no frivolous and nasty comments here as I truly believe you are an honest person looking for the truth.

A) I must compliment you as a word master and showman- you are writing a very compelling story and people follow it with interest and since it is your page you ahve every right to show your own case in the best light. I really admire you and look forward to meeting you personally in florida. The funny thing is I think we would really like each other :-)

I put my personal bio below.

To quote your website

"First, no continuous videotape record was made, as I'd clearly required."

There is no mention of this in the contract.

"Without that, there is only evidence that Mr. Tri fell down, but no indication of how or why. Second, Joko did not walk up to Serengen and "gently tap him with a piece of bamboo," as I'd specified, and YB had agreed to, but charged at him full tilt, with a huge bamboo pole — which he'd supplied himself, he told me."

*But what about the journalist witness?* Also you have no way to know jokos intention what if he was going fast to scare mr serengen then intended to slow down?

"There were people close enough to touch Joko as he ran forward, in fact there was quite a crowd involved."

I am sorry but there were only a few 2-3 people at most involved which no way constitutes a crowd.

Also the journalist who is shown clearly in the video- was only a few meters away- he surely would have seen and reported and tomfoolery- the journalist
was close enough to see anything that would have happened.

"The demo took place when it was very dark, giving much different conditions for viewing than there would have been at ten in the morning, as YB had previously agreed to do."

The contract states no where the time or place of the attack.

But let us say you are right:

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT

A) Say Joko was running full tilt to hit mr serengen-
Does the fact that the attacker is running towards mr serengen
with the intent to hit him hard with a large piece of bamboo
in some way mean the powers are not true.

Or are you saying that if you run fast at someone
with a piece of big bamboo and they knock you down
this is somehow normal and everyone can do it?

I am *not* trying to be a wise a** about this I am only
trying to understand your viewpoint.

From my point of view if someone is running at the defender
fast with a big stick and trying to hurt them and they get knocked
down with the chi power of the defender then it qualifies
as a demonstration of supernatural power- NO?

Furthermore our lawyer has reviewed all the documents which include our signed and notarized agreement. His opinion is that we have fulfilled all aspects of the contract to become claimant.

Any communication between ourselves and you and joko and you which were done by
email by florida law are not included in the agreement.

That is to say, the only binding legal agreement is the contract and anything
else outside of the contract is irrelevent to the contract.

The only thing which matters is what is in the written agreement that includes
the entirety of the agreement.

For example the agreement says

"Any applicant who refuses to agree to meet the rules as outlined here, will
not be considered to have ever been a claimant. Only complete agreement with
these rules will constitute the "applicant" being considered a "claimant."
Applicant, by signing, notarizing and returning this form, signifies agreement
with all of the above rules. "

It says the "rules as outlined here" and does not "say the rules as outlined
here and elsewhere in any additional correspondence etc"

B) Having said that if you were to come here or serengen to go to florida
would you look at it as the final test which ensues payment or would there have
to be two tests, say done on the same day etc?

Please clarify.

Kind Regards,

Dr Alvin G Donovan III

UnrepentantSinner · 4th October 2003, 08:53 PM

Why do I have the feeling that we'll soon be seeing posts by balijral...

Patricio Elicer · 4th October 2003, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yellowbamboo
Okay some people have said that mr randi claims there is no contract with yellow bamboo- we have never heard this but many people have asked for a copy of the contract. We tried to attach a photo of it but there is an error message sying its too big will someone pls email me at yellowbamboo.com and ill email it to them? . The signatory page with randi notarized and the waiver of liability which states the conditions of the test.

I don't know what you mean by "Contract", but in his Oct 3rd Commentary Randi states that there's agreement on the protocol by both parts.

Quote:

Our involvement with the Yellow Bamboo group, in Bali, Indonesia, began on June 28th, 2003, when we actually received their application. We'd been trying to get them to fulfill the application requirements since December of 2002, a full seven months of back-and-forth messaging. The protocol they finally agreed to needed small adjustments, which were made.

(emphasis mine)

thaiboxerken · 4th October 2003, 09:37 PM

"First, no continuous videotape record was made, as I'd clearly required."

There is no mention of this in the contract.

So you took a crappy video for what purpose, exactly?

"Without that, there is only evidence that Mr. Tri fell down, but no indication of how or why. Second, Joko did not walk up to Serengen and "gently tap him with a piece of bamboo," as I'd specified, and YB had agreed to, but charged at him full tilt, with a huge bamboo pole — which he'd supplied himself, he told me."

*But what about the journalist witness?* Also you have no way to know jokos intention what if he was going fast to scare mr serengen then intended to slow down?

What about him? Joko failed to follow protocol. Next time, get it right.

"There were people close enough to touch Joko as he ran forward, in fact there was quite a crowd involved."

I am sorry but there were only a few 2-3 people at most involved which no way constitutes a crowd.

We only saw that many on tape. Also, it only takes one person extra to obscure the test. You fail protocol again.

Also the journalist who is shown clearly in the video- was only a few meters away- he surely would have seen and reported and tomfoolery- the journalist
was close enough to see anything that would have happened.

Unless he's a liar, paid or coerced into silence.

"The demo took place when it was very dark, giving much different conditions for viewing than there would have been at ten in the morning, as YB had previously agreed to do."

The contract states no where the time or place of the attack.

So you decided to use crappy taping method in the dark for what purpose?

But let us say you are right:

He is.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT

A) Say Joko was running full tilt to hit mr serengen-
Does the fact that the attacker is running towards mr serengen
with the intent to hit him hard with a large piece of bamboo
in some way mean the powers are not true.

No person is making that claim. It does, however, violate protocol and makes it very hard to see whether or not you people cheated. I'm pretty sure you did.

Or are you saying that if you run fast at someone
with a piece of big bamboo and they knock you down
this is somehow normal and everyone can do it?

In the dark, anything can have happened, we just don't know. It's safe to assume that you cheated over having superpowers.

I am *not* trying to be a wise a** about this I am only
trying to understand your viewpoint.

You're not wise enough to be a wise arse.

From my point of view if someone is running at the defender
fast with a big stick and trying to hurt them and they get knocked
down with the chi power of the defender then it qualifies
as a demonstration of supernatural power- NO?

We can't know if only chi power was being used because it was dark and other people were around to knock the person down as well.

Furthermore our lawyer has reviewed all the documents which include our signed and notarized agreement. His opinion is that we have fulfilled all aspects of the contract to become claimant.

Of course, your lawyer is paid by you.

Any communication between ourselves and you and joko and you which were done by
email by florida law are not included in the agreement.

So, you ignored protocols because they were in email format, even though you agreed with email? Sounds very dishonest to me.

That is to say, the only binding legal agreement is the contract and anything
else outside of the contract is irrelevent to the contract.

So, instead of showing people your superpowers and science, you want to use the "law" to prove that you have superpowers. Now THAT'S the act of a coward.

B) Having said that if you were to come here or serengen to go to florida
would you look at it as the final test which ensues payment or would there have
to be two tests, say done on the same day etc?

Because of your failure to demonstrate, with any amount of reliability, your superpowers, I don't think you'll get that chance.

Now, why don't you e-mail Randi.

CFLarsen · 4th October 2003, 10:17 PM

yellowbamboo,

Email it to me: webmaster@skepticreport.com

I'll put it up for everyone to see. Randi included.

yellowbamboo · 5th October 2003, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CFLarsen
yellowbamboo,

Email it to me: webmaster@skepticreport.com

I'll put it up for everyone to see. Randi included.

Okay done.

YBS

arcticpenguin · 6th October 2003, 06:25 AM

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yellowbamboo · 6th October 2003, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CFLarsen
yellowbamboo,

Email it to me: webmaster@skepticreport.com

I'll put it up for everyone to see. Randi included.

Okay bro i sent you the email did you get it? Where is the link?

YBS

CFLarsen · 6th October 2003, 08:51 PM

YB,

Yellow Bamboo: The notarized agreement

"bro"? That sure is an odd word to use....

reprise · 6th October 2003, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CFLarsen
YB,

Yellow Bamboo: The notarized agreement

"bro"? That sure is an odd word to use....

"Bro" is in extremely common usage by Pacific Islanders living in Australia.

thaiboxerken · 7th October 2003, 08:15 AM

LOL. This is hilarious, since Randi did not send Joko as an official JREF representative, there is no case here. Do you think the JREF will actually count this crappy tape that was shot in the dark as passing? This shows that the Yellow Bamboozlers don't have superpowers and are hard trying to scam a million bucks while keeping their cult deluded.

Rolfe · 7th October 2003, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
This shows that the Yellow Bamboozlers don't have superpowers and are hard trying to scam a million bucks while keeping their cult deluded.

Scam a million bucks, not a ghost of a chance. Throw mud at the JREF, I'll grant you they may have some effect in that department, but not a lot, and that's all.

Rolfe.

Pakaran · 7th October 2003, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
LOL. This is hilarious, since Randi did not send Joko as an official JREF representative, there is no case here. Do you think the JREF will actually count this crappy tape that was shot in the dark as passing? This shows that the Yellow Bamboozlers don't have superpowers and are hard trying to scam a million bucks while keeping their cult deluded.

No kidding.

Though actually, I think they may be more after the publicity associated with their Pigasus efforts than any realistic hope of winning the prize.

CFLarsen · 7th October 2003, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reprise
"Bro" is in extremely common usage by Pacific Islanders living in Australia.

Is yellowbamboo living in Australia?

reprise · 7th October 2003, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CFLarsen

Is yellowbamboo living in Australia?

Not that I'm aware of. I was simply pointing out that the term is in commonly usage among Pacific Islanders - pretty much like "mate" is used by Australians - and that nothing "odd" can be inferred from its use.

thaiboxerken · 7th October 2003, 07:06 PM

If I had superpowers, like the Yellow Bamboozlers claim, I'd be UFC, Pride and K-1 Champion AND I'd take the JREF million. I certainly would make sure that everyone could see the superpower, if i'm going to claim taht I have it. For some reason, such superpowers evade good video-documentation and tests.

T'ai Chi · 8th October 2003, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
If I had superpowers, like the Yellow Bamboozlers claim, I'd be UFC, Pride and K-1 Champion ...

Some humor:

4th October 2003, 08:17 PM	#1
yellowbamboo Student Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 26	bamboo randi contract Okay some people have said that mr randi claims there is no contract with yellow bamboo- we have never heard this but many people have asked for a copy of the contract. We tried to attach a photo of it but there is an error message sying its too big will someone pls email me at yellowbamboo.com and ill email it to them? . The signatory page with randi notarized and the waiver of liability which states the conditions of the test. Also see some commentary based on randi latest web site. Mr Randi has said if we pay his costs and he has the time he will come to bali to do the test. Hi Mr Randi, I read with interest your latest webpage and have some commentary. I mean no frivolous and nasty comments here as I truly believe you are an honest person looking for the truth. A) I must compliment you as a word master and showman- you are writing a very compelling story and people follow it with interest and since it is your page you ahve every right to show your own case in the best light. I really admire you and look forward to meeting you personally in florida. The funny thing is I think we would really like each other :-) I put my personal bio below. To quote your website "First, no continuous videotape record was made, as I'd clearly required." There is no mention of this in the contract. "Without that, there is only evidence that Mr. Tri fell down, but no indication of how or why. Second, Joko did not walk up to Serengen and "gently tap him with a piece of bamboo," as I'd specified, and YB had agreed to, but charged at him full tilt, with a huge bamboo pole — which he'd supplied himself, he told me." But what about the journalist witness? Also you have no way to know jokos intention what if he was going fast to scare mr serengen then intended to slow down? "There were people close enough to touch Joko as he ran forward, in fact there was quite a crowd involved." I am sorry but there were only a few 2-3 people at most involved which no way constitutes a crowd. Also the journalist who is shown clearly in the video- was only a few meters away- he surely would have seen and reported and tomfoolery- the journalist was close enough to see anything that would have happened. "The demo took place when it was very dark, giving much different conditions for viewing than there would have been at ten in the morning, as YB had previously agreed to do." The contract states no where the time or place of the attack. But let us say you are right: THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT A) Say Joko was running full tilt to hit mr serengen- Does the fact that the attacker is running towards mr serengen with the intent to hit him hard with a large piece of bamboo in some way mean the powers are not true. Or are you saying that if you run fast at someone with a piece of big bamboo and they knock you down this is somehow normal and everyone can do it? I am not trying to be a wise a** about this I am only trying to understand your viewpoint. From my point of view if someone is running at the defender fast with a big stick and trying to hurt them and they get knocked down with the chi power of the defender then it qualifies as a demonstration of supernatural power- NO? Furthermore our lawyer has reviewed all the documents which include our signed and notarized agreement. His opinion is that we have fulfilled all aspects of the contract to become claimant. Any communication between ourselves and you and joko and you which were done by email by florida law are not included in the agreement. That is to say, the only binding legal agreement is the contract and anything else outside of the contract is irrelevent to the contract. The only thing which matters is what is in the written agreement that includes the entirety of the agreement. For example the agreement says "Any applicant who refuses to agree to meet the rules as outlined here, will not be considered to have ever been a claimant. Only complete agreement with these rules will constitute the "applicant" being considered a "claimant." Applicant, by signing, notarizing and returning this form, signifies agreement with all of the above rules. " It says the "rules as outlined here" and does not "say the rules as outlined here and elsewhere in any additional correspondence etc" B) Having said that if you were to come here or serengen to go to florida would you look at it as the final test which ensues payment or would there have to be two tests, say done on the same day etc? Please clarify. Kind Regards, Dr Alvin G Donovan III
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4th October 2003, 09:31 PM	#3
Patricio Elicer Obsessed with Reality Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 4,350	Re: bamboo randi contract Quote: Originally posted by yellowbamboo Okay some people have said that mr randi claims there is no contract with yellow bamboo- we have never heard this but many people have asked for a copy of the contract. We tried to attach a photo of it but there is an error message sying its too big will someone pls email me at yellowbamboo.com and ill email it to them? . The signatory page with randi notarized and the waiver of liability which states the conditions of the test. I don't know what you mean by "Contract", but in his Oct 3rd Commentary Randi states that there's agreement on the protocol by both parts. Quote: Our involvement with the Yellow Bamboo group, in Bali, Indonesia, began on June 28th, 2003, when we actually received their application. We'd been trying to get them to fulfill the application requirements since December of 2002, a full seven months of back-and-forth messaging. The protocol they finally agreed to needed small adjustments, which were made. (emphasis mine)
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4th October 2003, 09:37 PM	#4
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 20,965	Re: bamboo randi contract "First, no continuous videotape record was made, as I'd clearly required." There is no mention of this in the contract. So you took a crappy video for what purpose, exactly? "Without that, there is only evidence that Mr. Tri fell down, but no indication of how or why. Second, Joko did not walk up to Serengen and "gently tap him with a piece of bamboo," as I'd specified, and YB had agreed to, but charged at him full tilt, with a huge bamboo pole — which he'd supplied himself, he told me." But what about the journalist witness? Also you have no way to know jokos intention what if he was going fast to scare mr serengen then intended to slow down? What about him? Joko failed to follow protocol. Next time, get it right. "There were people close enough to touch Joko as he ran forward, in fact there was quite a crowd involved." I am sorry but there were only a few 2-3 people at most involved which no way constitutes a crowd. We only saw that many on tape. Also, it only takes one person extra to obscure the test. You fail protocol again. Also the journalist who is shown clearly in the video- was only a few meters away- he surely would have seen and reported and tomfoolery- the journalist was close enough to see anything that would have happened. Unless he's a liar, paid or coerced into silence. "The demo took place when it was very dark, giving much different conditions for viewing than there would have been at ten in the morning, as YB had previously agreed to do." The contract states no where the time or place of the attack. So you decided to use crappy taping method in the dark for what purpose? But let us say you are right: He is. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT A) Say Joko was running full tilt to hit mr serengen- Does the fact that the attacker is running towards mr serengen with the intent to hit him hard with a large piece of bamboo in some way mean the powers are not true. No person is making that claim. It does, however, violate protocol and makes it very hard to see whether or not you people cheated. I'm pretty sure you did. Or are you saying that if you run fast at someone with a piece of big bamboo and they knock you down this is somehow normal and everyone can do it? In the dark, anything can have happened, we just don't know. It's safe to assume that you cheated over having superpowers. I am not trying to be a wise a about this I am only trying to understand your viewpoint. You're not wise enough to be a wise arse. From my point of view if someone is running at the defender fast with a big stick and trying to hurt them and they get knocked down with the chi power of the defender then it qualifies as a demonstration of supernatural power- NO? We can't know if only chi power was being used because it was dark and other people were around to knock the person down as well. Furthermore our lawyer has reviewed all the documents which include our signed and notarized agreement. His opinion is that we have fulfilled all aspects of the contract to become claimant.** Of course, your lawyer is paid by you. Any communication between ourselves and you and joko and you which were done by email by florida law are not included in the agreement. So, you ignored protocols because they were in email format, even though you agreed with email? Sounds very dishonest to me. That is to say, the only binding legal agreement is the contract and anything else outside of the contract is irrelevent to the contract. So, instead of showing people your superpowers and science, you want to use the "law" to prove that you have superpowers. Now THAT'S the act of a coward. B) Having said that if you were to come here or serengen to go to florida would you look at it as the final test which ensues payment or would there have to be two tests, say done on the same day etc? Because of your failure to demonstrate, with any amount of reliability, your superpowers, I don't think you'll get that chance. Now, why don't you e-mail Randi.
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4th October 2003, 10:17 PM	#5
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5th October 2003, 10:12 PM	#6
yellowbamboo Student Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 26	Quote: Originally posted by CFLarsen yellowbamboo, Email it to me: webmaster@skepticreport.com I'll put it up for everyone to see. Randi included. Okay done. YBS
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yellowbamboo Student Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 26	Quote: Originally posted by CFLarsen yellowbamboo, Email it to me: webmaster@skepticreport.com I'll put it up for everyone to see. Randi included. Okay bro i sent you the email did you get it? Where is the link? YBS
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6th October 2003, 08:51 PM	#9
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6th October 2003, 08:54 PM	#10
reprise Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,859	Quote: Originally posted by CFLarsen YB, Yellow Bamboo: The notarized agreement "bro"? That sure is an odd word to use.... "Bro" is in extremely common usage by Pacific Islanders living in Australia.
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7th October 2003, 08:15 AM	#11
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 20,965	LOL. This is hilarious, since Randi did not send Joko as an official JREF representative, there is no case here. Do you think the JREF will actually count this crappy tape that was shot in the dark as passing? This shows that the Yellow Bamboozlers don't have superpowers and are hard trying to scam a million bucks while keeping their cult deluded.
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7th October 2003, 08:36 AM	#12
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 34,328	Quote: Originally posted by thaiboxerken This shows that the Yellow Bamboozlers don't have superpowers and are hard trying to scam a million bucks while keeping their cult deluded. Scam a million bucks, not a ghost of a chance. Throw mud at the JREF, I'll grant you they may have some effect in that department, but not a lot, and that's all. Rolfe.
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7th October 2003, 08:52 AM	#13
Pakaran Scholar Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 65	Quote: Originally posted by thaiboxerken LOL. This is hilarious, since Randi did not send Joko as an official JREF representative, there is no case here. Do you think the JREF will actually count this crappy tape that was shot in the dark as passing? This shows that the Yellow Bamboozlers don't have superpowers and are hard trying to scam a million bucks while keeping their cult deluded. No kidding. Though actually, I think they may be more after the publicity associated with their Pigasus efforts than any realistic hope of winning the prize.
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7th October 2003, 09:09 AM	#14
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Quote: Originally posted by reprise "Bro" is in extremely common usage by Pacific Islanders living in Australia. Is yellowbamboo living in Australia?
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7th October 2003, 04:17 PM	#15
reprise Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,859	Quote: Originally posted by CFLarsen Is yellowbamboo living in Australia? Not that I'm aware of. I was simply pointing out that the term is in commonly usage among Pacific Islanders - pretty much like "mate" is used by Australians - and that nothing "odd" can be inferred from its use.
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7th October 2003, 07:06 PM	#16
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 20,965	If I had superpowers, like the Yellow Bamboozlers claim, I'd be UFC, Pride and K-1 Champion AND I'd take the JREF million. I certainly would make sure that everyone could see the superpower, if i'm going to claim taht I have it. For some reason, such superpowers evade good video-documentation and tests.
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8th October 2003, 12:07 AM	#17
T'ai Chi Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 11,235	Quote: Originally posted by thaiboxerken If I had superpowers, like the Yellow Bamboozlers claim, I'd be UFC, Pride and K-1 Champion ... Some humor: