Morocco Mattress Factory Fire

LastChild · 26th April 2008, 09:30 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352741,00.html

55 Killed in Morocco Factory Fire

Quick Debunkers jump on it! Throw it on the pile with your highway overpasses and third world toy factories.

I mean what else have you got?

You're welcome. Don't mention it.

deep · 26th April 2008, 09:55 PM

Hmm, I wonder why they didn't mention any huge dust clouds, or bone fragments scattered all over the place? Maybe they'll post another story later on with pictures.. I'd like to see how many mattresses were ejected during the collapse and lodged into nearby buildings.

stateofgrace · 26th April 2008, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by deep44

Hmm, I wonder why they didn't mention any huge dust clouds, or bone fragments scattered all over the place? Maybe they'll post another story later on with pictures.. I'd like to see how many mattresses were ejected during the collapse and lodged into nearby buildings.

Do you find the deaths of 55 people in a fire somehow amusing?

Please enlighten us all as to how you find it so humorous.

Or maybe you could save your disrespectful wise cracks for other forums.

deep · 26th April 2008, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by stateofgrace

Do you find the deaths of 55 people in a fire somehow amusing?

Please enlighten us all as to how you find it so humorous.

Or maybe you could save your desrespectful (sic) wise cracks for other forums.

No, do you find the deaths of 3,000 people to be amusing? Because according to what you believe about 9/11, none of what I mentioned above should be humorous.

stateofgrace · 26th April 2008, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by deep44

No, do you find the deaths of 3,000 people to be amusing? Because according to what you believe about 9/11, none of what I mentioned above should be humorous.

No I do not find the deaths of anybody amusing, did I say i did?

What do I believe about 911? Please enlighten me. Have I stated what I believe? Can you show me? Please quote an exact post where I state my beliefs about 911.

Can you do that ? Or are you just assuming ?

While you are at it state exactly what a fire in which 55 people were killed has anything whatsoever to do with 911. Can you do that ?

Or are you going to keep pretending I or anybody else should actually give two hoots what you think , assume or post?

LastChild · 26th April 2008, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by stateofgrace

Do you find the deaths of 55 people in a fire somehow amusing?

Not as much as the comparison some idiots make of a third world toy factory fire to the wtc global collapse.

Originally Posted by stateofgrace

Please enlighten us all as to how you find it so humorous.

Actually you are the one for which humor came to mind at the site of 55 dead. Why don't you enlighten me? I never said it was humorous. What’s the matter didn't you have a real defense for your lame comparisons?

Originally Posted by stateofgrace

Or maybe you could save your disrespectful wise cracks for other forums.

Or maybe you should save your embarrassing, far reaching for straws, lack of anything real, for someone who actually buys into that crap.

defaultdotxbe · 26th April 2008, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by LastChild

Not as much as the comparison some idiots make of a third world toy factory fire to the wtc global collapse.

this would be a good time for someone to post the picture of that elephant-rat thing

LastChild · 26th April 2008, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

this would be a good time for someone to post the picture of that elephant-rat thing

Actually I was thinking this would be a good time for one of you to debunk something. Anything at all.

Ready

Set

GO!

defaultdotxbe · 26th April 2008, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by LastChild

Actually I was thinking this would be a good time for one of you to debunk something. Anything at all.

Ready

Set

GO!

very well, your continued claim that concrete and masonry buildings have more in common with structural steel buildings than other structural steel buildings is bunk, and hereby debunked

LastChild · 27th April 2008, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

very well, your continued claim that concrete and masonry buildings have more in common with structural steel buildings than other structural steel buildings is bunk, and hereby debunked

No I want some real debunking not pretend because your continued claim that the WTC was just one big highway overpass or third world toy factory just doesn't cut it.

defaultdotxbe · 27th April 2008, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by LastChild

No I want some real debunking not pretend because your continued claim that the WTC was just one big highway overpass or third world toy factory just doesn't cut it.

as i told you in another thread, im more than happy to remain in "debunker world" (AKA reality) where steel is more like steel than concrete

jhunter1163 · 27th April 2008, 01:02 AM

I missed the part where the mattress factory got hit by a plane.

chillzero · 27th April 2008, 01:17 AM

I was initially going to move this thread to AAH, but have reconsidered, and removed the bickering only.

I know that these 'parody' threads are getting tiresome, but the OPs do not usually breach the MA other than baiting exactly the response they get. That is something the mod team will review if it happens regularly enough, so be advised LastChild - you need to consider starting threads on more appropriate tones in future. Try opening a topic you actually want to discuss instead of lighting a flame and standing back to snipe.

My best advice to the rest of you would be to ignore them. All that happens when you respond - exactly as intended - is that the mods get extra work.

Posted By:chillzero

Advising as a member, and not a mod, I would also add that the ... wrong-ness .. of any of these claims gets overlooked when you respond in anger or mockery.

1337m4n · 27th April 2008, 01:43 AM

LastChild, you have failed to answer me in this thread.

LastChild fails to explain his position, he just mocks.

LastChild, the Kader Toy Factory is a good analogy. It proves that fire can cause the complete destruction of steel buildings.

Now please explain why I am wrong.

calebprime · 27th April 2008, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by 1337m4n

LastChild, you have failed to answer me in this thread.

LastChild fails to explain his position, he just mocks.

LastChild, the Kader Toy Factory is a good analogy. It proves that fire can cause the complete destruction of steel buildings.

Now please explain why I am wrong.

quoted for agreement.

But, I hope that when he's had a little sleep, he'll wake up refreshed, and ready to answer in his usual forthright manner.

Gravy · 27th April 2008, 04:24 AM

The founders of the JREF Ninja Wave would be saddened to learn to what extent it's become a conspiracy theorist support group.

LastChild · 27th April 2008, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by 1337m4n

LastChild, you have failed to answer me in this thread.

LastChild fails to explain his position, he just mocks.

LastChild, the Kader Toy Factory is a good analogy. It proves that fire can cause the complete destruction of steel buildings.

Now please explain why I am wrong.

The Kator Toy factory is not a good analogy because it is not a steel constructed high-rise suffering global collapse from structural damage to a few floors and pockets of fire to a small percent of the building.

If the Kator toy factory suffered structural damage and fire to the same percent of the building that the WTC suffered and that fire did not spread through out the entire building it would not have collapsed. In fact the Kator Toy factory was a sweat shop shack in a third world nation that was totally engulfed in flames and wasn't even completely repaired yet from previous fires.

The only reason debunkers grasp at straws like the Kator Toy factory or highway overpasses (that collapse and are caught by the lower overpass not progressing to global collapse like the WTC) is because there is no example in the history of steel constructed high-rise buildings suffering global collapse from anything other then explosives.

It doesn't happen. That's why you are wrong. You’re welcome.

BillyRayValentine · 27th April 2008, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by LastChild

Actually you are the one for which humor came to mind at the site of 55 dead. Why don't you enlighten me? I never said it was humorous.

(bolding mine)

The post at issue was addressed to deep44.

Why insert yourself into the fray? Are you really that attention starved?

Oh, your poor parents...

stateofgrace · 27th April 2008, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by LastChild

Not as much as the comparison some idiots make of a third world toy factory fire to the wtc global collapse.

Really? "Not quite as amusing" you mean?

Quote:

Actually you are the one for which humor came to mind at the site of 55 dead. Why don't you enlighten me? I never said it was humorous. What’s the matter didn't you have a real defense for your lame comparisons?

Did I say you did? Oh wait, you did say you find it amusing right? But not quite as amusing as somebody comparing the WTC's to a toy factory right?

Quote:

Or maybe you should save your embarrassing, far reaching for straws, lack of anything real, for someone who actually buys into that crap.

What "crap" is that,Child,the "crap" you post ?

fuelair · 27th April 2008, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by LastChild

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352741,00.html

55 Killed in Morocco Factory Fire

Quick Debunkers jump on it! Throw it on the pile with your highway overpasses and third world toy factories.

I mean what else have you got?

You're welcome. Don't mention it.

Does this have meaning in some language I am missing (it does not in English).

The first sentence makes sense. The rest is absurdist.

26th April 2008, 09:30 PM	#1
LastChild Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Disneyland Posts: 2,062	Morocco Mattress Factory Fire http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352741,00.html 55 Killed in Morocco Factory Fire Quick Debunkers jump on it! Throw it on the pile with your highway overpasses and third world toy factories. I mean what else have you got? You're welcome. Don't mention it.

26th April 2008, 09:55 PM	#2
deep Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,367	Hmm, I wonder why they didn't mention any huge dust clouds, or bone fragments scattered all over the place? Maybe they'll post another story later on with pictures.. I'd like to see how many mattresses were ejected during the collapse and lodged into nearby buildings.
deep Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,367

26th April 2008, 10:08 PM	#3
stateofgrace Guest Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,847	Originally Posted by deep44 Hmm, I wonder why they didn't mention any huge dust clouds, or bone fragments scattered all over the place? Maybe they'll post another story later on with pictures.. I'd like to see how many mattresses were ejected during the collapse and lodged into nearby buildings. Do you find the deaths of 55 people in a fire somehow amusing? Please enlighten us all as to how you find it so humorous. Or maybe you could save your disrespectful wise cracks for other forums.
	Last edited by stateofgrace; 26th April 2008 at 10:15 PM. Reason: typo

26th April 2008, 10:22 PM	#4
deep Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,367	Originally Posted by stateofgrace Do you find the deaths of 55 people in a fire somehow amusing? Please enlighten us all as to how you find it so humorous. Or maybe you could save your desrespectful (sic) wise cracks for other forums. No, do you find the deaths of 3,000 people to be amusing? Because according to what you believe about 9/11, none of what I mentioned above should be humorous.
deep Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,367

26th April 2008, 11:23 PM	#7
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 7,482	Originally Posted by LastChild Not as much as the comparison some idiots make of a third world toy factory fire to the wtc global collapse. this would be a good time for someone to post the picture of that elephant-rat thing
	__________________ I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -Albert Einstein

26th April 2008, 10:30 PM	#5
stateofgrace Guest Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,847	Originally Posted by deep44 No, do you find the deaths of 3,000 people to be amusing? Because according to what you believe about 9/11, none of what I mentioned above should be humorous. No I do not find the deaths of anybody amusing, did I say i did? What do I believe about 911? Please enlighten me. Have I stated what I believe? Can you show me? Please quote an exact post where I state my beliefs about 911. Can you do that ? Or are you just assuming ? While you are at it state exactly what a fire in which 55 people were killed has anything whatsoever to do with 911. Can you do that ? Or are you going to keep pretending I or anybody else should actually give two hoots what you think , assume or post?

26th April 2008, 11:20 PM	#6
LastChild Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Disneyland Posts: 2,062	Originally Posted by stateofgrace Do you find the deaths of 55 people in a fire somehow amusing? Not as much as the comparison some idiots make of a third world toy factory fire to the wtc global collapse. Originally Posted by stateofgrace Please enlighten us all as to how you find it so humorous. Actually you are the one for which humor came to mind at the site of 55 dead. Why don't you enlighten me? I never said it was humorous. What’s the matter didn't you have a real defense for your lame comparisons? Originally Posted by stateofgrace Or maybe you could save your disrespectful wise cracks for other forums. Or maybe you should save your embarrassing, far reaching for straws, lack of anything real, for someone who actually buys into that crap.

26th April 2008, 11:33 PM	#8
LastChild Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Disneyland Posts: 2,062	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe this would be a good time for someone to post the picture of that elephant-rat thing Actually I was thinking this would be a good time for one of you to debunk something. Anything at all. Ready Set GO!

26th April 2008, 11:36 PM	#9
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 7,482	Originally Posted by LastChild Actually I was thinking this would be a good time for one of you to debunk something. Anything at all. Ready Set GO! very well, your continued claim that concrete and masonry buildings have more in common with structural steel buildings than other structural steel buildings is bunk, and hereby debunked
	__________________ I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -Albert Einstein Last edited by defaultdotxbe; 26th April 2008 at 11:37 PM.

27th April 2008, 12:06 AM	#10
LastChild Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Disneyland Posts: 2,062	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe very well, your continued claim that concrete and masonry buildings have more in common with structural steel buildings than other structural steel buildings is bunk, and hereby debunked No I want some real debunking not pretend because your continued claim that the WTC was just one big highway overpass or third world toy factory just doesn't cut it.

27th April 2008, 12:09 AM	#11
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 7,482	Originally Posted by LastChild No I want some real debunking not pretend because your continued claim that the WTC was just one big highway overpass or third world toy factory just doesn't cut it. as i told you in another thread, im more than happy to remain in "debunker world" (AKA reality) where steel is more like steel than concrete
	__________________ I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -Albert Einstein

27th April 2008, 01:02 AM	#12
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,557	I missed the part where the mattress factory got hit by a plane.

27th April 2008, 01:43 AM	#14
1337m4n Alphanumeric Anonymous Stick Man Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,499	LastChild, you have failed to answer me in this thread. LastChild fails to explain his position, he just mocks. LastChild, the Kader Toy Factory is a good analogy. It proves that fire can cause the complete destruction of steel buildings. Now please explain why I am wrong.
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27th April 2008, 02:58 AM	#15
calebprime Somewhat Elitist Parasite Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,747	Originally Posted by 1337m4n LastChild, you have failed to answer me in this thread. LastChild fails to explain his position, he just mocks. LastChild, the Kader Toy Factory is a good analogy. It proves that fire can cause the complete destruction of steel buildings. Now please explain why I am wrong. quoted for agreement. But, I hope that when he's had a little sleep, he'll wake up refreshed, and ready to answer in his usual forthright manner.
	__________________ Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory.

27th April 2008, 04:24 AM	#16
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	The founders of the JREF Ninja Wave would be saddened to learn to what extent it's become a conspiracy theorist support group.
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27th April 2008, 09:38 AM	#17
LastChild Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Disneyland Posts: 2,062	Originally Posted by 1337m4n LastChild, you have failed to answer me in this thread. LastChild fails to explain his position, he just mocks. LastChild, the Kader Toy Factory is a good analogy. It proves that fire can cause the complete destruction of steel buildings. Now please explain why I am wrong. The Kator Toy factory is not a good analogy because it is not a steel constructed high-rise suffering global collapse from structural damage to a few floors and pockets of fire to a small percent of the building. If the Kator toy factory suffered structural damage and fire to the same percent of the building that the WTC suffered and that fire did not spread through out the entire building it would not have collapsed. In fact the Kator Toy factory was a sweat shop shack in a third world nation that was totally engulfed in flames and wasn't even completely repaired yet from previous fires. The only reason debunkers grasp at straws like the Kator Toy factory or highway overpasses (that collapse and are caught by the lower overpass not progressing to global collapse like the WTC) is because there is no example in the history of steel constructed high-rise buildings suffering global collapse from anything other then explosives. It doesn't happen. That's why you are wrong. You’re welcome.
	Last edited by LastChild; 27th April 2008 at 09:39 AM.

27th April 2008, 10:03 AM	#18
BillyRayValentine Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 329	Originally Posted by LastChild Actually you are the one for which humor came to mind at the site of 55 dead. Why don't you enlighten me? I never said it was humorous. (bolding mine) The post at issue was addressed to deep44. Why insert yourself into the fray? Are you really that attention starved? Oh, your poor parents...

27th April 2008, 03:44 PM	#19
stateofgrace Guest Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,847	Originally Posted by LastChild Not as much as the comparison some idiots make of a third world toy factory fire to the wtc global collapse. Really? "Not quite as amusing" you mean? Quote: Actually you are the one for which humor came to mind at the site of 55 dead. Why don't you enlighten me? I never said it was humorous. What’s the matter didn't you have a real defense for your lame comparisons? Did I say you did? Oh wait, you did say you find it amusing right? But not quite as amusing as somebody comparing the WTC's to a toy factory right? Quote: Or maybe you should save your embarrassing, far reaching for straws, lack of anything real, for someone who actually buys into that crap. What "crap" is that,Child,the "crap" you post ?
	Last edited by stateofgrace; 27th April 2008 at 03:45 PM.

27th April 2008, 04:48 PM	#20
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,881	Originally Posted by LastChild http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352741,00.html 55 Killed in Morocco Factory Fire Quick Debunkers jump on it! Throw it on the pile with your highway overpasses and third world toy factories. I mean what else have you got? You're welcome. Don't mention it. Does this have meaning in some language I am missing (it does not in English). The first sentence makes sense. The rest is absurdist.
fuelair Cythraul Enfys Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,881