TAM2 Sunday Field Trip

MoeFaux · 8th October 2003, 07:39 AM

Fieldtrip: The Geology of Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area

by

Dr. Raymond "Slick" Beiersdorfer
Professor of Geological and Environmental Sciences
Youngstown State University
Youngstown, OH 44555
rebeiersdorfer@ysu.edu

and
Mark C. Wheeler, M.Sc.
President and Principal Geologist
Crawford Consulting
San Jose, CA 95113
mark@crawfordconsulting.com

Located 10 miles west of Las Vegas, Nevada, the Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area is an excellent location to examine the geology of the Spring Mountains. Features exposed include the Keystone and Red Spring Thrust Faults, Paleozoic carbonates and "petrified sand dunes" in the Jurassic Aztec Sandstone. The results of six hundred and fifty million years of Earth history in the region will be viewed.

The fieldtrip will include driving the 13-mile Red Rock scenic drive and some non-strenuous walking along trails within the canyon. The estimated duration of the fieldtrip is 3 to 4 hours. This fascinating tour will depart after the convention from the Tuscany Hotel and Casino on Sunday, January 18. The tour is limited to only 25 people, so make your reservations today. Fieldtrip participants will provide their own transportation and admission costs to visit the canyon. Admission into the park is $5.00 per car for a day pass. It’s recommended that you dress warmly, as the temperature in Las Vegas in January is a high of 56 degrees Fahrenheit. R.S.V.P. for this event by writing to Kelli at kelli@randi.org

Raymond E. Beiersdorfer
Raymond E. Beiersdorfer, a.k.a. Dr. Ray a.k.a. Slick, is a Professor of Geological and Environmental Sciences at Youngstown State University in Ohio, but as a participant in the Federal Witness Protection Program, he still thinks he's Ian Hunter of Mott the Hoople. He has received the YSU Distinguished Professorship Awards in Scholarship (1997, 2003) and Teaching (1998). He also won the YSU University Scholars Provost Award for Teaching in 1997 and the National Science Teachers Association Ohaus Award for College Science Teaching in 1995. In addition to his Ph.D., which he did not earn from Oxford, Harvard, Yale, or Stanford, he has a license to practice jocularity from the Chuckle Institute for the Humor Impaired. He has served 10 years at Youngstown State University where he has mentored dozens of students, all of whom unfortunately are now under indictment. Professor Beiersdorfer has admittedly contributed to the destruction of scores of trees and shrubbery by publishing more than a dozen journal articles or chapters in the geological and science education literature. The quality of these publications reflects his life-long commitment to mediocrity and his professional motto: "Go for the Bronze!" He has been a Convenor, Field Trip Leader and Invited Speaker for the International Geological Correlation Program Project 294: Very-low grade metamorphism. He has worked for NASA investigating the geochemistry of synthetic soils for use in long duration space missions and Lunar and Martian Outposts. Despite the fact that he is a terrible singer, his most recent DVD “Geology Rocks!” has received enthusiastic praise at conferences and living rooms nationwide. His performance art work generates enormous local media coverage. His name was recently mentioned on the International Space Station. Dr. Beiersdorfer hoped to spend his first sabbatical attending Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Circus's Clown College. Instead he was the Research and Education Fellow at the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Studies (CIRES) at the University of Colorado at Boulder. His appointment to this distinguished fellowship really shocked his parents who expected him to have his own talk show by now.

Mark C. Wheeler
Mark Crawford Wheeler is a geologist earning a living as an environmental consultant in San Jose, California. Mr. Wheeler is a California Registered Geologist and he carries his license to practice geology with him at all times. He received his B.S in Geology from Haverford College and his M.S in Geology from the University of California, Davis, where he was a fellow graduate student with the then pre-Dr. Raymond E. Beiersdorfer. Mr. Wheeler is the proud owner of a two-person firm, Crawford Consulting, Inc., a spin-off from a previous firm he started in 1992. Mr. Wheeler has 25 years of professional experience in hydrogeology, geology, geochemistry, and environmental science, including 17 years as an environmental consultant in California. He has been the project manager, technical program manager, or project geologist for over 50 sites involving subsurface characterization, geologic and hydrogeologic evaluation, water quality assessment, and remedial measures implementation. Mr. Wheeler’s work on the isotopic composition of sulfate in acid mine drainage as a measure of bacterial oxidation was published in the journal Nature, and he has been an invited speaker on environmental investigations at the Institute of Geological & Nuclear Sciences in New Zealand. His favorite kind of work is monitoring landfills for leakage of chemical contaminants to groundwater. He also enjoys toxic waste pits and pesticide residue ponds, and likes to boast about his investigation of solvent leakage from a Titan Missile Base.

MoeFaux · 8th October 2003, 07:41 AM

While there isn't any specific transportation planned, I imagine that we will be able to carpool, and perhaps I can take a few people up.

arcticpenguin · 8th October 2003, 08:49 AM

Sounds interesting to me; I'll have to check with my girlfriend. I'll tell her it's something about orogenous zones.

Dinonychus · 8th October 2003, 01:56 PM

I gotta kill a few hours after the convention is over anyway. What the hell.

MoeFaux · 8th October 2003, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dinonychus
I gotta kill a few hours after the convention is over anyway. What the hell.

Dino, was that you who just RSVP'd?

Dinonychus · 8th October 2003, 02:52 PM

Yep.

You said to if you're interested, and I'm interested.

Brown · 8th October 2003, 03:00 PM

Are we allowed to write our names on the rocks with spray paint?

Just kidding.

Do they have blackjack in Red Rock Canyon, or just slots?

Just kidding, again.

This field trip sounds fascinating. I have heard wonderful things about Red Rock Canyon, and I would certainly like to see it, especially "up close and personal." Unfortunately, I think my Sunday afternoon is booked. I will have to see whether I can adjust my schedule so that I can go.

MoeFaux · 8th October 2003, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dinonychus
Yep.

You said to if you're interested, and I'm interested.

Okay, I've got you. I got a little confused with the alias and then real name...sometimes the blonde seeps into my skull.

I highly recommend this field trip. I've been out at Red Rock with Slick and Wheeler, and they know their rocks. And they're funny.

And if you're good, I'll tell you a little secret about Wheeler that you can tease him with forever.

UnrepentantSinner · 8th October 2003, 05:22 PM

This sounds quite interesting. After I finalize my air travel I'll get see how it fits in to my plans.

kittynh · 8th October 2003, 06:44 PM

I can't tell Kitten about this! My girls are barely speaking to me as I'm not taking them too. Pool Boy has to wait by the pool as I can't even afford for him to attned the meetings. If I didn't need him to carry bags (and cough up his frequent flyer miles)....ahhh well....

But, I'll ask Pool Boy if he wants to go!

Marc · 8th October 2003, 07:14 PM

I'm putting in for the trip too.

Was hopeing to have some fun with the gang out there outside the meeting.

Girl 6 · 8th October 2003, 09:07 PM

I'm in!!!

Good thing I haven't booked the flight yet...

G6

Patricio Elicer · 8th October 2003, 11:22 PM

I'm interested of course, but it all depends on the dirty $$$$

fishbob · 12th October 2003, 10:47 AM

Stop teasing.

I love Paleozoic carbonates, so it really pains me to not be able to attend the meeting or go on this field trip.

Girl 6 · 13th October 2003, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Patricio Elicer
I'm interested of course, but it all depends on the dirty $$$$

Patricio... I'll find a way to cover you.

G6

Luciana · 13th October 2003, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Girl 6

Patricio... I'll find a way to cover you.

G6

Sig line material above!

Dear Girl 6, you do realize how this line sounds out of its context, don't you?

Girl 6 · 13th October 2003, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luciana Nery

Sig line material above!

Dear Girl 6, you do realize how this line sounds out of its context, don't you?

Next thing I know, Patricio will use it! LOL!

G6

Patricio Elicer · 15th October 2003, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Girl 6
Patricio... I'll find a way to cover you.

Oh, oh,.. thanks very much Girl6, but $5 is not such a big deal of money. I'll make my reservation for the visit in a few moments, I simply can't miss this opportunity to visit a South West American geological site.

PS
You can still cover me

Wyvern · 19th October 2003, 07:17 PM

Hi Moe Faux,

I just sent (you?) an e-mail requesting to sign up for the Red Rock tour. It sounds wonderful. I will also be driving to Vegas in my gas-guzzling Hummer which seats 10 so I can take passengers.

Just kidding!!! I will be bringing a vehicle, though, so I can take four more people comfortably.

MoeFaux · 19th November 2003, 12:36 PM

Folks,
I have 16 Field Trip sign-ups at this point. If you would like to come along, please email me at Kelli@randi.org or PM me.

Byzantine Magpie · 19th November 2003, 10:44 PM

MF

I've just emailed my request to go on this trip.

If anyone can help an Aussie (me!) with transport for this trip, that'd be really good.

Thanks

Chanileslie · 20th November 2003, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Byzantine Magpie
MF

I've just emailed my request to go on this trip.

If anyone can help an Aussie (me!) with transport for this trip, that'd be really good.

Thanks

I believe Nyarlathotep signed us up for this really cool field trip, and as we have a rather ancient and dilapidated mini-van that seats up to 7, we could probably take a few who do not have transportation.

MoeFaux · 20th November 2003, 11:04 AM

Byzantine and Chani,
Yup, you guys are on my list.

Patricio Elicer · 20th November 2003, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chanileslie
as we have a rather ancient and dilapidated mini-van that seats up to 7, we could probably take a few who do not have transportation.

Thanks Chani, I'd sign up to be one of those 7.

I think we should make a recount of total available seats as the date approaches. I won't miss the field trip by any means, so I'm even prepared to rent a car just for the event, if the need arises.

Byzantine Magpie · 20th November 2003, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chanileslie

I believe Nyarlathotep signed us up for this really cool field trip, and as we have a rather ancient and dilapidated mini-van that seats up to 7, we could probably take a few who do not have transportation.

Thanks for that!

Chanileslie · 26th November 2003, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Patricio Elicer
Thanks Chani, I'd sign up to be one of those 7.

I think we should make a recount of total available seats as the date approaches. I won't miss the field trip by any means, so I'm even prepared to rent a car just for the event, if the need arises.

I will make a note of that!! Of course, I will do you all a favor an spare you Nyarlathotep's driving by doing the driving myself. Lets put it this way, he is much better at being an Elder God!!

Chanileslie · 26th November 2003, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Byzantine Magpie

Thanks for that!

My pleasure!

Chanileslie · 26th November 2003, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MoeFaux
Byzantine and Chani,
Yup, you guys are on my list.

Excellent!! Oh for the list, I am chick.

cosmic · 11th December 2003, 02:29 PM

Hopefully I'm on the list, and I'll have a vehicle that will seat seven if needed.

I used to live in Boulder City while I was in high school and we used to go rock climbing in the red rocks. It is so increadibly beautiful there. I look forward to a geologic explanation of these wonders.

In addition-- I know of some natural hot springs, near Hoover Dam. There are accessible by a 40 minute hike, and the drive the trail head is about a half an hour from the strip. I was hoping to make a visit to these springs on monday. It's another increadible feature of the desert around vegas, and a kind blissful retreat from the glitz around the strip. I'd be happy to show a party the way, and January is a perfect time of year for desert hiking.

I bring this up on this thread to seek those who like to explore the desert.

the water is the temp. of a good hot bath...

exarch · 11th December 2003, 02:54 PM

Swimming in open air in January

cosmic · 11th December 2003, 03:02 PM

yep-- the picture is from Jan 2, 2001. About 70F that day...

MoeFaux · 19th December 2003, 09:02 AM

Cosmic,
Would you PM me? I want to make sure I have your name on the list.
Thanks,
MF

8th October 2003, 07:39 AM	#1
MoeFaux Suspicious Mind Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,919	TAM2 Sunday Field Trip Fieldtrip: The Geology of Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area by Dr. Raymond "Slick" Beiersdorfer Professor of Geological and Environmental Sciences Youngstown State University Youngstown, OH 44555 rebeiersdorfer@ysu.edu and Mark C. Wheeler, M.Sc. President and Principal Geologist Crawford Consulting San Jose, CA 95113 mark@crawfordconsulting.com Located 10 miles west of Las Vegas, Nevada, the Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area is an excellent location to examine the geology of the Spring Mountains. Features exposed include the Keystone and Red Spring Thrust Faults, Paleozoic carbonates and "petrified sand dunes" in the Jurassic Aztec Sandstone. The results of six hundred and fifty million years of Earth history in the region will be viewed. The fieldtrip will include driving the 13-mile Red Rock scenic drive and some non-strenuous walking along trails within the canyon. The estimated duration of the fieldtrip is 3 to 4 hours. This fascinating tour will depart after the convention from the Tuscany Hotel and Casino on Sunday, January 18. The tour is limited to only 25 people, so make your reservations today. Fieldtrip participants will provide their own transportation and admission costs to visit the canyon. Admission into the park is $5.00 per car for a day pass. It’s recommended that you dress warmly, as the temperature in Las Vegas in January is a high of 56 degrees Fahrenheit. R.S.V.P. for this event by writing to Kelli at kelli@randi.org Raymond E. Beiersdorfer Raymond E. Beiersdorfer, a.k.a. Dr. Ray a.k.a. Slick, is a Professor of Geological and Environmental Sciences at Youngstown State University in Ohio, but as a participant in the Federal Witness Protection Program, he still thinks he's Ian Hunter of Mott the Hoople. He has received the YSU Distinguished Professorship Awards in Scholarship (1997, 2003) and Teaching (1998). He also won the YSU University Scholars Provost Award for Teaching in 1997 and the National Science Teachers Association Ohaus Award for College Science Teaching in 1995. In addition to his Ph.D., which he did not earn from Oxford, Harvard, Yale, or Stanford, he has a license to practice jocularity from the Chuckle Institute for the Humor Impaired. He has served 10 years at Youngstown State University where he has mentored dozens of students, all of whom unfortunately are now under indictment. Professor Beiersdorfer has admittedly contributed to the destruction of scores of trees and shrubbery by publishing more than a dozen journal articles or chapters in the geological and science education literature. The quality of these publications reflects his life-long commitment to mediocrity and his professional motto: "Go for the Bronze!" He has been a Convenor, Field Trip Leader and Invited Speaker for the International Geological Correlation Program Project 294: Very-low grade metamorphism. He has worked for NASA investigating the geochemistry of synthetic soils for use in long duration space missions and Lunar and Martian Outposts. Despite the fact that he is a terrible singer, his most recent DVD “Geology Rocks!” has received enthusiastic praise at conferences and living rooms nationwide. His performance art work generates enormous local media coverage. His name was recently mentioned on the International Space Station. Dr. Beiersdorfer hoped to spend his first sabbatical attending Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Circus's Clown College. Instead he was the Research and Education Fellow at the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Studies (CIRES) at the University of Colorado at Boulder. His appointment to this distinguished fellowship really shocked his parents who expected him to have his own talk show by now. Mark C. Wheeler Mark Crawford Wheeler is a geologist earning a living as an environmental consultant in San Jose, California. Mr. Wheeler is a California Registered Geologist and he carries his license to practice geology with him at all times. He received his B.S in Geology from Haverford College and his M.S in Geology from the University of California, Davis, where he was a fellow graduate student with the then pre-Dr. Raymond E. Beiersdorfer. Mr. Wheeler is the proud owner of a two-person firm, Crawford Consulting, Inc., a spin-off from a previous firm he started in 1992. Mr. Wheeler has 25 years of professional experience in hydrogeology, geology, geochemistry, and environmental science, including 17 years as an environmental consultant in California. He has been the project manager, technical program manager, or project geologist for over 50 sites involving subsurface characterization, geologic and hydrogeologic evaluation, water quality assessment, and remedial measures implementation. Mr. Wheeler’s work on the isotopic composition of sulfate in acid mine drainage as a measure of bacterial oxidation was published in the journal Nature, and he has been an invited speaker on environmental investigations at the Institute of Geological & Nuclear Sciences in New Zealand. His favorite kind of work is monitoring landfills for leakage of chemical contaminants to groundwater. He also enjoys toxic waste pits and pesticide residue ponds, and likes to boast about his investigation of solvent leakage from a Titan Missile Base.
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8th October 2003, 07:41 AM	#2
MoeFaux Suspicious Mind Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,919	Carpooling While there isn't any specific transportation planned, I imagine that we will be able to carpool, and perhaps I can take a few people up.
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8th October 2003, 08:49 AM	#3
arcticpenguin woo ban clan Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,717	Sounds interesting to me; I'll have to check with my girlfriend. I'll tell her it's something about orogenous zones.
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8th October 2003, 01:56 PM	#4
Dinonychus JREF Kid Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 426	I gotta kill a few hours after the convention is over anyway. What the hell.
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8th October 2003, 02:06 PM	#5
MoeFaux Suspicious Mind Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,919	Quote: Originally posted by Dinonychus I gotta kill a few hours after the convention is over anyway. What the hell. Dino, was that you who just RSVP'd?
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8th October 2003, 02:52 PM	#6
Dinonychus JREF Kid Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 426	Yep. You said to if you're interested, and I'm interested.
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8th October 2003, 03:00 PM	#7
Brown Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Twin Cities, Canada Posts: 12,145	Are we allowed to write our names on the rocks with spray paint? Just kidding. Do they have blackjack in Red Rock Canyon, or just slots? Just kidding, again. This field trip sounds fascinating. I have heard wonderful things about Red Rock Canyon, and I would certainly like to see it, especially "up close and personal." Unfortunately, I think my Sunday afternoon is booked. I will have to see whether I can adjust my schedule so that I can go.
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8th October 2003, 03:17 PM	#8
MoeFaux Suspicious Mind Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,919	Quote: Originally posted by Dinonychus Yep. You said to if you're interested, and I'm interested. Okay, I've got you. I got a little confused with the alias and then real name...sometimes the blonde seeps into my skull. I highly recommend this field trip. I've been out at Red Rock with Slick and Wheeler, and they know their rocks. And they're funny. And if you're good, I'll tell you a little secret about Wheeler that you can tease him with forever.
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8th October 2003, 05:22 PM	#9
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 26,351	This sounds quite interesting. After I finalize my air travel I'll get see how it fits in to my plans.
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8th October 2003, 06:44 PM	#10
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 22,705	I can't tell Kitten about this! My girls are barely speaking to me as I'm not taking them too. Pool Boy has to wait by the pool as I can't even afford for him to attned the meetings. If I didn't need him to carry bags (and cough up his frequent flyer miles)....ahhh well.... But, I'll ask Pool Boy if he wants to go!
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8th October 2003, 07:14 PM	#11
Marc Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,165	I'm putting in for the trip too. Was hopeing to have some fun with the gang out there outside the meeting.
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8th October 2003, 09:07 PM	#12
Girl 6 Voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,500	I'm in!!! Good thing I haven't booked the flight yet... G6
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8th October 2003, 11:22 PM	#13
Patricio Elicer Obsessed with Reality Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 4,350	I'm interested of course, but it all depends on the dirty $$$$
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12th October 2003, 10:47 AM	#14
fishbob Seasonally Disaffected Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chilly Undieville Posts: 5,666	Stop teasing. I love Paleozoic carbonates, so it really pains me to not be able to attend the meeting or go on this field trip.
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13th October 2003, 10:42 AM	#15
Girl 6 Voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,500	Quote: Originally posted by Patricio Elicer I'm interested of course, but it all depends on the dirty $$$$ Patricio... I'll find a way to cover you. G6
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13th October 2003, 11:25 AM	#16
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13th October 2003, 11:44 AM	#17
Girl 6 Voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,500	Quote: Originally posted by Luciana Nery Sig line material above! Dear Girl 6, you do realize how this line sounds out of its context, don't you? Next thing I know, Patricio will use it! LOL! G6
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15th October 2003, 09:44 PM	#18
Patricio Elicer Obsessed with Reality Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 4,350	Quote: Originally posted by Girl 6 Patricio... I'll find a way to cover you. Oh, oh,.. thanks very much Girl6, but $5 is not such a big deal of money. I'll make my reservation for the visit in a few moments, I simply can't miss this opportunity to visit a South West American geological site. PS You can still cover me
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19th October 2003, 07:17 PM	#19
Wyvern Muse Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 900	Hi Moe Faux, I just sent (you?) an e-mail requesting to sign up for the Red Rock tour. It sounds wonderful. I will also be driving to Vegas in my gas-guzzling Hummer which seats 10 so I can take passengers. Just kidding!!! I will be bringing a vehicle, though, so I can take four more people comfortably.
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19th November 2003, 12:36 PM	#20
MoeFaux Suspicious Mind Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,919	Folks, I have 16 Field Trip sign-ups at this point. If you would like to come along, please email me at Kelli@randi.org or PM me.
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19th November 2003, 10:44 PM	#21
Byzantine Magpie Thinker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 140	MF I've just emailed my request to go on this trip. If anyone can help an Aussie (me!) with transport for this trip, that'd be really good. Thanks

20th November 2003, 10:49 AM	#22
Chanileslie Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,378	Quote: Originally posted by Byzantine Magpie MF I've just emailed my request to go on this trip. If anyone can help an Aussie (me!) with transport for this trip, that'd be really good. Thanks I believe Nyarlathotep signed us up for this really cool field trip, and as we have a rather ancient and dilapidated mini-van that seats up to 7, we could probably take a few who do not have transportation.

20th November 2003, 11:04 AM	#23
MoeFaux Suspicious Mind Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,919	Byzantine and Chani, Yup, you guys are on my list.
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20th November 2003, 04:28 PM	#24
Patricio Elicer Obsessed with Reality Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 4,350	Quote: Originally posted by Chanileslie as we have a rather ancient and dilapidated mini-van that seats up to 7, we could probably take a few who do not have transportation. Thanks Chani, I'd sign up to be one of those 7. I think we should make a recount of total available seats as the date approaches. I won't miss the field trip by any means, so I'm even prepared to rent a car just for the event, if the need arises.
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20th November 2003, 10:08 PM	#25
Byzantine Magpie Thinker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 140	Quote: Originally posted by Chanileslie I believe Nyarlathotep signed us up for this really cool field trip, and as we have a rather ancient and dilapidated mini-van that seats up to 7, we could probably take a few who do not have transportation. Thanks for that!

26th November 2003, 02:02 PM	#26
Chanileslie Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,378	Quote: Originally posted by Patricio Elicer Thanks Chani, I'd sign up to be one of those 7. I think we should make a recount of total available seats as the date approaches. I won't miss the field trip by any means, so I'm even prepared to rent a car just for the event, if the need arises. I will make a note of that!! Of course, I will do you all a favor an spare you Nyarlathotep's driving by doing the driving myself. Lets put it this way, he is much better at being an Elder God!!

26th November 2003, 02:03 PM	#27
Chanileslie Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,378	Quote: Originally posted by Byzantine Magpie Thanks for that! My pleasure!

26th November 2003, 02:05 PM	#28
Chanileslie Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,378	Quote: Originally posted by MoeFaux Byzantine and Chani, Yup, you guys are on my list. Excellent!! Oh for the list, I am chick.

11th December 2003, 02:29 PM	#29
cosmic Scholar Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 76	Hopefully I'm on the list, and I'll have a vehicle that will seat seven if needed. I used to live in Boulder City while I was in high school and we used to go rock climbing in the red rocks. It is so increadibly beautiful there. I look forward to a geologic explanation of these wonders. In addition-- I know of some natural hot springs, near Hoover Dam. There are accessible by a 40 minute hike, and the drive the trail head is about a half an hour from the strip. I was hoping to make a visit to these springs on monday. It's another increadible feature of the desert around vegas, and a kind blissful retreat from the glitz around the strip. I'd be happy to show a party the way, and January is a perfect time of year for desert hiking. I bring this up on this thread to seek those who like to explore the desert. the water is the temp. of a good hot bath...
cosmic Scholar Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 76	__________________ "It is morally as bad not to care whether a thing is true or not, so long as it makes you feel good, as it is not to care how you got your money, as long as you have got it" - Edwin Way Teale

11th December 2003, 02:54 PM	#30
exarch Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Beyond redemption Posts: 7,225	Swimming in open air in January
	__________________ Naturalhealth: Helios are one of the largest homeopathic pharmacies in England. They have their reputation to consider, so it is just not worth their while doing anything that would destroy that. Rest assured, all their remedies are exactly what they say they are. There are also ways of testing the remedies too, so that you could distinguish them from just pure tap water. QAman: How can this be done? I presume you mean testing of the lower dilution remedies? Naturalhealth: No. This can be done for all remedies. __________________ Luciana is perhaps one of the sweetest people I've ever met. I will stand behind her till I drop dead. If you want to **** with her, you better understand you have to go through me first -- MoeFaux

11th December 2003, 03:02 PM	#31
cosmic Scholar Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 76	yep-- the picture is from Jan 2, 2001. About 70F that day...
cosmic Scholar Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 76	__________________ "It is morally as bad not to care whether a thing is true or not, so long as it makes you feel good, as it is not to care how you got your money, as long as you have got it" - Edwin Way Teale

19th December 2003, 09:02 AM	#32
MoeFaux Suspicious Mind Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,919	Cosmic, Would you PM me? I want to make sure I have your name on the list. Thanks, MF
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