9/11 visualization - troothers, where's yours?

applecorped · 20th May 2008, 07:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vmIGGKvIms&NR=1

Truthers, why don't you try simulating what a CD of WTC1 & 2 would look like? I would be very interested to see what you come up with.

eromitlab · 20th May 2008, 07:50 PM

They're waiting for the new investigation to do it for them.

nicepants · 20th May 2008, 08:05 PM

So far, this is all they've come up with:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

But, as the guy in the video says..."it's not a good replica because they're not glued together"

DC · 20th May 2008, 10:12 PM

Well a german guy made a 4000 step serial calculation that included demolition of the core, also considered collapse times, squibs, seismic data. and gives out the results in diagrams, a very good visualisation. but its in German. Will be translated sometimes afaik.

DC · 20th May 2008, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by nicepants

So far, this is all they've come up with:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

But, as the guy in the video says..."it's not a good replica because they're not glued together"

the guy iin the video got missled by Dr. Sanders fantasy collapse times.
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DC · 20th May 2008, 10:23 PM

http://de.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=726C8A0A7DA7D04A

psikeyhackr · 21st May 2008, 05:34 AM

We know a plane hit the building and started a fire so I don't see what that simulation accomplished.

I emailed Chris Hoffmann

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Thanks for your interest.
Please contact Professor Sozen regarding the building particulars.
Best wishes, Chris Hoffmann

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Director, Rosen Center for Advanced Computing
Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN 47907
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-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Smithe
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:10 PM
To: Chris Hoffmann
Cc: ayhan@purdue.edu
Subject: Concrete Video?

Greetings,

Congratulations on a great looking simulation.

Since some of the kinetic energy caused the entire building to shake and some
did damage at the impact zone I was wondering how it was determined how much
did what?

In six years I have not heard how much steel and concrete was on each level
of the building so I am wondering how that information can be obtained.

You see I made my own video but the simulation is based on a physical model.
I am having trouble understanding how this incident can be analyzed without
the distribution of steel and concrete being taken into account. How many
tons of steel were on the impact floors of the south tower to weaken in 56
minutes? I haven't heard that in 6 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0kUICwO93Q

Sincerely,

====================================

I emailed Prof. Sozen also. No response.

psik

aggle-rithm · 21st May 2008, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by psikeyhackr

I emailed Prof. Sozen also. No response.

psik

He's in on it.

By the way, why do you still think the WEIGHT of the materials has something to do with the building's ability to resist collapse?

It certainly makes a difference if you're talking about the floors above the impact zone...but you seem to think the impact zone itself is important. Why?

The Doc · 21st May 2008, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by eromitlab

They're waiting for the new investigation to do it for them.

Right on the money.

They don't have the qualifications within their own organizations to conduct such an investigation, so they demand one be done by real experts. For some reason though, they can't figure out why said experts keep conducting investigations that inevitably support the already massive correlation of accounts by engineers and scientists that indicate impact and fire damage brought the towers down.

20th May 2008, 07:43 PM	#1
applecorped Rotten to the Core Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 10,688	9/11 visualization - troothers, where's yours? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vmIGGKvIms&NR=1 Truthers, why don't you try simulating what a CD of WTC1 & 2 would look like? I would be very interested to see what you come up with.

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DC dedicated aphilatelist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 21,675	Well a german guy made a 4000 step serial calculation that included demolition of the core, also considered collapse times, squibs, seismic data. and gives out the results in diagrams, a very good visualisation. but its in German. Will be translated sometimes afaik.
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21st May 2008, 05:34 AM	#7
psikeyhackr Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sol III Posts: 470	We know a plane hit the building and started a fire so I don't see what that simulation accomplished. I emailed Chris Hoffmann =================================== Thanks for your interest. Please contact Professor Sozen regarding the building particulars. Best wishes, Chris Hoffmann ______________________ Christoph M. Hoffmann, Computer Science Director, Rosen Center for Advanced Computing Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN 47907 ph: 765-494-6185, fax: 765-494-0739 www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh ______________________ -----Original Message----- From: Karl Smithe Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:10 PM To: Chris Hoffmann Cc: ayhan@purdue.edu Subject: Concrete Video? Greetings, Congratulations on a great looking simulation. Since some of the kinetic energy caused the entire building to shake and some did damage at the impact zone I was wondering how it was determined how much did what? In six years I have not heard how much steel and concrete was on each level of the building so I am wondering how that information can be obtained. You see I made my own video but the simulation is based on a physical model. I am having trouble understanding how this incident can be analyzed without the distribution of steel and concrete being taken into account. How many tons of steel were on the impact floors of the south tower to weaken in 56 minutes? I haven't heard that in 6 years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0kUICwO93Q Sincerely, ==================================== I emailed Prof. Sozen also. No response. psik
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21st May 2008, 05:59 AM	#8
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,156	Originally Posted by psikeyhackr I emailed Prof. Sozen also. No response. psik He's in on it. By the way, why do you still think the WEIGHT of the materials has something to do with the building's ability to resist collapse? It certainly makes a difference if you're talking about the floors above the impact zone...but you seem to think the impact zone itself is important. Why?
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21st May 2008, 06:34 AM	#9
The Doc Curing Stupidity Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,160	Originally Posted by eromitlab They're waiting for the new investigation to do it for them. Right on the money. They don't have the qualifications within their own organizations to conduct such an investigation, so they demand one be done by real experts. For some reason though, they can't figure out why said experts keep conducting investigations that inevitably support the already massive correlation of accounts by engineers and scientists that indicate impact and fire damage brought the towers down.
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