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Old 22nd May 2008, 08:41 PM   #1
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Are Truthers Merely Jealous?

Truthers (and CTers in general) seem to always go after people that are either rich in wealth or those who are esteemed for their political intelligence. Is it mere jealousy? Thoughts?
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Old 22nd May 2008, 09:17 PM   #2
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I'm not sure Jealosy enters into it much. I think they see themselves as dangerous revolutionaries stickin' it to da man.

They have to target the big end of town, because there's not much point in making accusations of international conspiracy against old Mr Cohen at the local fruit shop (unless he starts looking at them funny and short changes them. Then old Abe better look out!).
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Old 22nd May 2008, 10:11 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by abenja1 View Post
Truthers (and CTers in general) seem to always go after people that are either rich in wealth or those who are esteemed for their political intelligence. Is it mere jealousy? Thoughts?
and/or are upset they were born with everything they never asked for.
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i have absolutely no reason to be Jealous about rich peoples
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Old 22nd May 2008, 11:36 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Dictator Cheney View Post
i have absolutely no reason to be Jealous about rich peoples
Because you're not an american?
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Old 22nd May 2008, 11:43 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by abenja1 View Post
Truthers (and CTers in general) seem to always go after people that are either rich in wealth or those who are esteemed for their political intelligence. Is it mere jealousy? Thoughts?
I can see that... people that have no power and want some making accusations about people who have power, with the pipe dream that they'll be able to fill the power vacuum. However, my experience is that truthists would rather go after people of any standing who openly disagree with them.
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Old 23rd May 2008, 12:33 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by HENTAI DOUKYUSEI JP View Post
Because you're not an american?
what has Nationality to do with that????
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Old 23rd May 2008, 12:34 AM   #8
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Because it's the same plot in almost every movie. Little nobody goes after big bad rich goliath. What movie doesn't use this same scenario? The truthers want to live out their fantasy of being the unsung hero that no one believes until it's too late and then they save the world and everyone who teased them in HS begs them for forgiveness and their existence and lack of motivation is finally justified after all. The end.
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I'm starting to come to this conclusion because if truthers had their say and ran out all the people they gunning for, who would they put in place of those people. Themselves and Ron Paul.
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i think some of you watch to much movies...
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Old 23rd May 2008, 01:22 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Dictator Cheney View Post
what has Nationality to do with that????
This is so simple but you can't figure it out?
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Old 23rd May 2008, 01:51 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Dictator Cheney View Post
i think some of you watch to much movies...
Ha ha ha. Your whole 'movement' is based on a series of junk internet films.
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Could you provide a few examples?
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Originally Posted by abenja1 View Post
Truthers (and CTers in general) seem to always go after people that are either rich in wealth or those who are esteemed for their political intelligence. Is it mere jealousy? Thoughts?
Lets face it. Conspiracy theories are fun. I have to admit that I was intrigued with a few. And I was initially intrigued by theories brought up surrounding 9/11 due to a bias I had toward more fantastic explanations. After reviewing the available evidence for both sides, I realized that the reality is 9/11 occurred due more to human error (on the part of the allegedly sterling US intelligence apparatus, among other things) than it did any kind of clandestine precision. Many conspiracy theorists I've encountered think almost exclusively in the meta. It provides the illusion of some grand order and therefore some grand explanation. In reality, things are chaotic and tragedies, such as 9/11, simply cannot be fully explained, or accepted. I'm only speculating, of course, but I suspect there is a comfort in believing that one is fighting the good fight and putting an end to some eternal clandestine cabal bent on, well ... eventually forming the NWO. It's a benign "enemy" that one gets to chase with cherry picked quotes and theories. Armchair activism is obviously, for some, a very fulfilling endeavor.
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Old 23rd May 2008, 04:05 AM   #15
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This is so simple but you can't figure it out?
yes i dont get it. tell me, what has nationality to do with it? i really dont get it.

what was the point, enlighten me.
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There are a couple of posters on here who come across in their postings as having a hatred for the richer man and figures of authority
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Ha ha ha. Your whole 'movement' is based on a series of junk internet films.
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Could you provide a few examples?
The Matrix - I've lost count of the number of twoofers I've seen with Neo avatars or who've said they've taken the red pill.

V for Vendetta - Twoofers protest wearing the mask, ffsake!

Wag the Dog - Twoofers I've debated refer to this as if it were not fiction.
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Originally Posted by HENTAI DOUKYUSEI JP View Post
and/or are upset they were born with everything they never asked for.
This makes absolutely no sense.
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TBH, the OP is absurd. The salient fact about persons of interest to CTers is not that they are rich or 'esteemed for their political intelligence'. Esteemed by whom?
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TBH, the OP is absurd. The salient fact about persons of interest to CTers is not that they are rich or 'esteemed for their political intelligence'. Esteemed by whom?
Go ahead...tell us what the salient fact is...
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I don't think it's jealousy, precisely. I think it's more a yearning for significance, fueled by a major misconception. They once heard somewhere that people laughed at Galileo, and so have concluded that everyone who gets laughed at eventually turns into Galileo. They apparently fail to realize that for every Galieo, there's 10 million Bozos the Clown.
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Yes just look how they talk about David Rockefeller. Rothschilds. Of course they hate people who have more money then they have.
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I think there's something to the jealousy angle. As one woman pointed out in a special on the conspiracy theorists, they've rewritten the story of 9-11 so that they're the real heroes. When you consider the obvious narcissism of many of those in the "movement" it adds up.
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Is this thread about Conspiracy Theories or is it about trying to attack truthers with baseless claims? Can a truther be a Mod in this forum?
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Maybe, but you'd have to enter reality first.
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Originally Posted by Dictator Cheney View Post
yes i dont get it. tell me, what has nationality to do with it? i really dont get it.

what was the point, enlighten me.
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Originally Posted by Tweeter View Post
Is this thread about Conspiracy Theories or is it about trying to attack truthers with baseless claims? Can a truther be a Mod in this forum?
It's a theory about motivations of CTers. Jealous that a Mod isn't?

Edit: The reason why you want a Mod in this forum, I believe, is because you want to suppress any non-truther posts.

Edit: Part 2: Do you think there should be a non-truther mod at prisonplanet and LCF?
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Tweeter> Part of analyzing CT's is looking at the basis that leads people to develop such a theory in the first place. Since there is a common theme of attacking people who are politicaly or financially powerful I think the original post is very legitimate.

Brainster> Good point, and one that I completely agree with. They have created a hero parable that places them at the noble top, and explains any hardship they face as being the work of an evil elite.
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Is this thread about Conspiracy Theories or is it about trying to attack truthers with baseless claims? Can a truther be a Mod in this forum?
It's a valid question in the OP.
If it becomes a series of attacks it will be removed or pruned.

Discussion of moderation should be taken to the Forum Mgt section.
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Is this thread about Conspiracy Theories or is it about trying to attack truthers with baseless claims? Can a truther be a Mod in this forum?
Start a thread about why Debunkers become Debunkers.
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Originally Posted by abenja1 View Post
Truthers (and CTers in general) seem to always go after people that are either rich in wealth or those who are esteemed for their political intelligence. Is it mere jealousy? Thoughts?
Yes. All those celebrities like Charlie Sheen, Rosie O’Donnell, or Jesse Ventura to name but a few are just jealous because they are so poor or have never accomplished anything politically. Good one.
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Yes. All those celebrities like Charlie Sheen, Rosie O’Donnell, or Jesse Ventura to name but a few are just jealous because they are so poor or have never accomplished anything politically. Good one.
Yeah, with esteemed intellects like that on your side who needs actual experts and evidence.

I suppose Mel Gibson's rants about evil Jews running the world is true too, I mean look at all the money he's made in his career.
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truthers are just lonely, angry people looking for meaning in life.
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Is this thread about Conspiracy Theories or is it about trying to attack truthers with baseless claims? Can a truther be a Mod in this forum?
most truthers lack the intelligence, maturity, rationality, composure, and sanity, to be a moderator anywhere.
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Yeah, with esteemed intellects like that on your side who needs actual experts and evidence.

I suppose Mel Gibson's rants about evil Jews running the world is true too, I mean look at all the money he's made in his career.
Excuse me was the OP claiming that the truthers were jealous of actual experts and evidence? I believe it claimed truthers were jealous of wealth or political success. And how does Mel Gibson and his thoughts on the Jews have anything to do with anything here?
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Yes. All those celebrities like Charlie Sheen, Rosie O’Donnell, or Jesse Ventura to name but a few are just jealous because they are so poor or have never accomplished anything politically. Good one.
And we all know how intelligent those 3 are
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And how does Mel Gibson and his thoughts on the Jews have anything to do with anything here?
Because Truthers embrace Mel Gibson's paranoid theories.
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Excuse me was the OP claiming that the truthers were jealous of actual experts and evidence? I believe it claimed truthers were jealous of wealth or political success. And how does Mel Gibson and his thoughts on the Jews have anything to do with anything here?
About the same relevence as naming 3 people out of all the truthers is to the OP.
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most truthers lack the intelligence, maturity, rationality, composure, and sanity, to be a moderator anywhere.
Except at their own twoofer forums, where they're mainly tasked with eliminating opposing viewpoints and the other things don't apply.
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