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Charlie Monoxide · 22nd May 2008, 09:42 PM

I love POI podcasts, but I find DJ Grothe way too polite. IMHO Hedges hegded (yes a pun, sue me) way too often and would not answer any question without referring to his oh so wonderful resume. A typical "appeal to authority" logical fallacy.

I enjoyed Sam Harris's books (and agree with many of his points), but he does not represent all of "new" atheists viewpoints. I found it very lame that Hedges only referred to Sam Harris as the main reason for the problems of the hubris of "new" atheists.

I was waiting for Hedges to attack Hitchens for his support of the Iraq Invasion.

What really is Hedges point? He almost seemed to be on the edge of cursing DJ to hell for his "new" atheist beliefs.

It's nice to hear different point of views and POI does explore alternate viewpoints ....

Charlie (even more so a non-Hitchens fan) Monoxide

davefoc · 5th November 2010, 01:12 AM

Link to the show in question:
http://c2.libsyn.com/media/18988/POI...4db306c40a9e4b

It might be obvious or well known how to get there easily but just in case it wasn't for you here it is.

Sam Harris response to Hedges:
http://www.samharris.org/site/full_t...-controversy2/

OK, I'm one that thinks that there is a kind of anti-Muslim bias that stems partially from cultural biases and biases driven by support for Israeli colonialism and militarism, so I was predisposed to agree with Hedges. I didn't exactly.

I thought he over simplified the views of people that he disagreed with and I thought his term, the new atheists, implied that there was more homogeneity in a particular set of prominent atheist views than existed.

A lot of his message seems to be, though, straightforward, criticism of American policy in the middle east and on that I thought he was on pretty solid ground.

22nd May 2008, 09:42 PM	#1
Charlie Monoxide Wag Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 2,761	Chris Hedges Interview I love POI podcasts, but I find DJ Grothe way too polite. IMHO Hedges hegded (yes a pun, sue me) way too often and would not answer any question without referring to his oh so wonderful resume. A typical "appeal to authority" logical fallacy. I enjoyed Sam Harris's books (and agree with many of his points), but he does not represent all of "new" atheists viewpoints. I found it very lame that Hedges only referred to Sam Harris as the main reason for the problems of the hubris of "new" atheists. I was waiting for Hedges to attack Hitchens for his support of the Iraq Invasion. What really is Hedges point? He almost seemed to be on the edge of cursing DJ to hell for his "new" atheist beliefs. It's nice to hear different point of views and POI does explore alternate viewpoints .... Charlie (even more so a non-Hitchens fan) Monoxide
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5th November 2010, 01:12 AM	#2
davefoc Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: orange country, california Posts: 7,333	Link to the show in question: http://c2.libsyn.com/media/18988/POI...4db306c40a9e4b It might be obvious or well known how to get there easily but just in case it wasn't for you here it is. Sam Harris response to Hedges: http://www.samharris.org/site/full_t...-controversy2/ OK, I'm one that thinks that there is a kind of anti-Muslim bias that stems partially from cultural biases and biases driven by support for Israeli colonialism and militarism, so I was predisposed to agree with Hedges. I didn't exactly. I thought he over simplified the views of people that he disagreed with and I thought his term, the new atheists, implied that there was more homogeneity in a particular set of prominent atheist views than existed. A lot of his message seems to be, though, straightforward, criticism of American policy in the middle east and on that I thought he was on pretty solid ground.
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