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Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 10th October 2003, 12:38 PM

I have found various claims about binaural-beat audio helping with memory and learning. Does anyone have any idea whether this is reasonable or bogus? I've got a fluctuating bogometer here.

A paper by a fellow who did research on it:

http://discoverytoolsandworkshops.com/research/13/

~~ Paul

Prospero · 10th October 2003, 10:24 PM

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As an adult I worked my way through college, and graduated out of luck and shear persistence. If I failed a class, I took it over until I made the grade I needed. In graduate school I knew I would need a new strategy, since I could no longer take classes over with the new grade replacing the old. I could not afford to work so hard for such mediocre results. I was still very frustrated, and I turned that frustration into a search for answers.

To my joy, I found a combination of dimethylaminoethanol (DMAE), a nutrient found in seafood, and binaural-beat signals worked well to offset my learning disabilities. What had been an academic Sisyphean struggle became a genuine pleasure. The effect was one of personal transformation and excellent grades. I felt as though I had been set free from a life long prison.

My only question is where did he find this DMAE and binaural-beat signal combination?! The paper appears legit and the phenomena previously documented so I'm inclined to believe it's all kosher.

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Yahweh · 11th October 2003, 02:37 AM

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To my joy, I found a combination of dimethylaminoethanol (DMAE), a nutrient found in seafood, and binaural-beat signals worked well to offset my learning disabilities. What had been an academic Sisyphean struggle became a genuine pleasure. The effect was one of personal transformation and excellent grades. I felt as though I had been set free from a life long prison.

"They say tuna is brainfood, probably because it has so much dolphin in it, and you know how smart they are" - Marge Simpson

I'm skeptical about the reasoning this guy used, its plausible he is jumping to the conclusion that these binaural-beat signals are what allowed him to overcome his learning disability. Not to say his effort was meaningless, but I think he's undermining his own integrity, I think he could have made the same grades without the seafood and binwhatever-the-hell music.

I'm sure almost everyone can say they've struggled with something, then as if by magic a lightbulb clicks in their head and they understand. I'm willing to bet most of the people here who've gone through college have been mystified by Calculus and struggled with it for months. But then one day, *bing* the lightbulb turns on and you say to yourself "Hey... Calculus is easy". To me, that seems like the more likely scenario than to jump to hastey (but not to say impossible) conclusion such as "I've cured my learning disability with seafood and music".

But hey, keep eating the seafood, it's delicious and healthy for you. Keep listening to the music if its something pleases you (I've actually heard that studies were conducted and they found all but one classical music composer's work showed significant increase in ability to recall and understand material... unfortunately I neither know where to find these "studies" nor do I remember which composer it was).

10th October 2003, 12:38 PM	#1
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos Nap, interrupted. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: a little toolshed Posts: 18,631	Binaural-beat audio I have found various claims about binaural-beat audio helping with memory and learning. Does anyone have any idea whether this is reasonable or bogus? I've got a fluctuating bogometer here. A paper by a fellow who did research on it: http://discoverytoolsandworkshops.com/research/13/ ~~ Paul
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10th October 2003, 10:24 PM	#2
Prospero Thinker Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 176	Quote: As an adult I worked my way through college, and graduated out of luck and shear persistence. If I failed a class, I took it over until I made the grade I needed. In graduate school I knew I would need a new strategy, since I could no longer take classes over with the new grade replacing the old. I could not afford to work so hard for such mediocre results. I was still very frustrated, and I turned that frustration into a search for answers. To my joy, I found a combination of dimethylaminoethanol (DMAE), a nutrient found in seafood, and binaural-beat signals worked well to offset my learning disabilities. What had been an academic Sisyphean struggle became a genuine pleasure. The effect was one of personal transformation and excellent grades. I felt as though I had been set free from a life long prison. My only question is where did he find this DMAE and binaural-beat signal combination?! The paper appears legit and the phenomena previously documented so I'm inclined to believe it's all kosher.
Prospero Thinker Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 176	__________________ Life is a comedy to those who think and a tragedy to those who feel.

11th October 2003, 02:37 AM	#4
Yahweh Ayay ashay ayay Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,029	Quote: To my joy, I found a combination of dimethylaminoethanol (DMAE), a nutrient found in seafood, and binaural-beat signals worked well to offset my learning disabilities. What had been an academic Sisyphean struggle became a genuine pleasure. The effect was one of personal transformation and excellent grades. I felt as though I had been set free from a life long prison. "They say tuna is brainfood, probably because it has so much dolphin in it, and you know how smart they are" - Marge Simpson I'm skeptical about the reasoning this guy used, its plausible he is jumping to the conclusion that these binaural-beat signals are what allowed him to overcome his learning disability. Not to say his effort was meaningless, but I think he's undermining his own integrity, I think he could have made the same grades without the seafood and binwhatever-the-hell music. I'm sure almost everyone can say they've struggled with something, then as if by magic a lightbulb clicks in their head and they understand. I'm willing to bet most of the people here who've gone through college have been mystified by Calculus and struggled with it for months. But then one day, bing the lightbulb turns on and you say to yourself "Hey... Calculus is easy". To me, that seems like the more likely scenario than to jump to hastey (but not to say impossible) conclusion such as "I've cured my learning disability with seafood and music". But hey, keep eating the seafood, it's delicious and healthy for you. Keep listening to the music if its something pleases you (I've actually heard that studies were conducted and they found all but one classical music composer's work showed significant increase in ability to recall and understand material... unfortunately I neither know where to find these "studies" nor do I remember which composer it was).
Yahweh Ayay ashay ayay Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,029

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