Interesting short videos on life in North Korea

headscratcher4 · 9th June 2008, 06:56 AM

http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1442316090

Seismosaurus · 9th June 2008, 12:28 PM

Very surreal place.

HarryKeogh · 9th June 2008, 12:37 PM

Very interesting. Thanks for the link.

headscratcher4 · 9th June 2008, 12:45 PM

What was interesting to me was that the reporter is one of the more irreverent at attempting this topic I've seen. He seemed to take a number of chances to get his report...and is one of the first to suggest that his handlers were getting mad at him...it is a facinating, scary look at the 1984 World of Kim Jung Il...

mrbaracuda · 9th June 2008, 11:48 PM

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shuize · 10th June 2008, 06:09 AM

The very last words of the series summed it up best: "The land that time forgot."

Pardalis · 10th June 2008, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by headscratcher4

it is a facinating, scary look at the 1984 World of Kim Jung Il...

Exactly, it's funny that alot of anti-Americans want to scare people about the US by trying to portray it as a "1984" type of society, when we've got an exact replica of such a society in NK. They got it down to a tee.

Where are these people when the subject of NK arises? They are awfully silent about true dictatorships.

headscratcher4 · 10th June 2008, 06:38 AM

So true...fortunately, allowing warrentless domestic spying and looking the other way when it comes to torture will help prevent us from sliding into that nightmare world.

Pardalis · 10th June 2008, 06:40 AM

You've just seen the real thing, and you're scared that the US will slide into that?

Please.

headscratcher4 · 10th June 2008, 06:50 AM

And think we couldn't? Please.

Pardalis · 10th June 2008, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by headscratcher4

And think we couldn't?

No, you couldn't.

Beerina · 10th June 2008, 07:08 AM

I don't know. Thanks to omnipresent cameras, scanning software (reads license plates), face recognition software, and all phone and internet traffic routed through unapproved government computers, one guy in a room could conceivably sit there and monitor the complete travels and activities of any person they choose, all in an automated fashion and completely recorded.

No administration would ever do this to the competition, would they? I mean, there's no oversight by judges, because it's too damned important to risk it. So we have to trust they're not slipping in a little ~~John Kerry~~ Obama-and-his-supporters watching in addition to tens of thousands of terrorist suspects, real and imagined.

Right?

headscratcher4 · 10th June 2008, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Beerina

I don't know. Thanks to omnipresent cameras, scanning software (reads license plates), face recognition software, and all phone and internet traffic routed through unapproved government computers, one guy in a room could conceivably sit there and monitor the complete travels and activities of any person they choose, all in an automated fashion and completely recorded.

No administration would ever do this to the competition, would they? I mean, there's no oversight by judges, because it's too damned important to risk it. So we have to trust they're not slipping in a little ~~John Kerry~~ Obama-and-his-supporters watching in addition to tens of thousands of terrorist suspects, real and imagined.

Right?

http://wuntvor.mirror.waffleimages.c...3cac861ab0.jpg

No, I guess it won't happen here...

Safe-Keeper · 10th June 2008, 09:03 AM

Isn't omnipresent cameras more of a UK thing than a US thing?

But yes, North Korea is one spooky place. Nearly completely shut off from the rest of the world, in desperate poverty, with the government in complete control (as far as I understand it).

Pardalis · 10th June 2008, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by headscratcher4

http://wuntvor.mirror.waffleimages.c...3cac861ab0.jpg

No, I guess it won't happen here...

A camera in Spain = Orwellian state in the US?

OK, so by this logic:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ost_world.html

So I guess it can happen here too, with Bigfoot?

mrbaracuda · 10th June 2008, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by headscratcher4

http://wuntvor.mirror.waffleimages.c...3cac861ab0.jpg

No, I guess it won't happen here...

Nice picture. Also saw the mini-series now and it was interesting. Thanks for pointing it out! You dirty commie!

headscratcher4 · 10th June 2008, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Pardalis

A camera in Spain = Orwellian state in the US?

OK, so by this logic:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ost_world.html

So I guess it can happen here too, with Bigfoot?

Get a sense of humor. Please.

9th June 2008, 06:56 AM	#1
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Seismosaurus Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Banbury Posts: 3,549	Very surreal place.
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9th June 2008, 12:45 PM	#4
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,749	What was interesting to me was that the reporter is one of the more irreverent at attempting this topic I've seen. He seemed to take a number of chances to get his report...and is one of the first to suggest that his handlers were getting mad at him...it is a facinating, scary look at the 1984 World of Kim Jung Il...
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10th June 2008, 06:17 AM	#7
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	Originally Posted by headscratcher4 it is a facinating, scary look at the 1984 World of Kim Jung Il... Exactly, it's funny that alot of anti-Americans want to scare people about the US by trying to portray it as a "1984" type of society, when we've got an exact replica of such a society in NK. They got it down to a tee. Where are these people when the subject of NK arises? They are awfully silent about true dictatorships.
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10th June 2008, 06:38 AM	#8
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,749	So true...fortunately, allowing warrentless domestic spying and looking the other way when it comes to torture will help prevent us from sliding into that nightmare world.
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9th June 2008, 12:37 PM	#3
HarryKeogh Catholic School Survivor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,342	Very interesting. Thanks for the link.

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10th June 2008, 06:09 AM	#6
shuize Master Poster Join Date: May 2002 Location: Japan Posts: 2,311	The very last words of the series summed it up best: "The land that time forgot."

10th June 2008, 06:40 AM	#9
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	You've just seen the real thing, and you're scared that the US will slide into that? Please.

10th June 2008, 06:50 AM	#10
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,749	And think we couldn't? Please.
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10th June 2008, 07:02 AM	#11
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	Originally Posted by headscratcher4 And think we couldn't? No, you couldn't.

10th June 2008, 07:08 AM	#12
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	I don't know. Thanks to omnipresent cameras, scanning software (reads license plates), face recognition software, and all phone and internet traffic routed through unapproved government computers, one guy in a room could conceivably sit there and monitor the complete travels and activities of any person they choose, all in an automated fashion and completely recorded. No administration would ever do this to the competition, would they? I mean, there's no oversight by judges, because it's too damned important to risk it. So we have to trust they're not slipping in a little ~~John Kerry~~ Obama-and-his-supporters watching in addition to tens of thousands of terrorist suspects, real and imagined. Right?
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10th June 2008, 07:43 AM	#13
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,749	Originally Posted by Beerina I don't know. Thanks to omnipresent cameras, scanning software (reads license plates), face recognition software, and all phone and internet traffic routed through unapproved government computers, one guy in a room could conceivably sit there and monitor the complete travels and activities of any person they choose, all in an automated fashion and completely recorded. No administration would ever do this to the competition, would they? I mean, there's no oversight by judges, because it's too damned important to risk it. So we have to trust they're not slipping in a little ~~John Kerry~~ Obama-and-his-supporters watching in addition to tens of thousands of terrorist suspects, real and imagined. Right? http://wuntvor.mirror.waffleimages.c...3cac861ab0.jpg No, I guess it won't happen here...
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10th June 2008, 09:03 AM	#14
Safe-Keeper Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sogndal, Norway Posts: 7,118	Isn't omnipresent cameras more of a UK thing than a US thing? But yes, North Korea is one spooky place. Nearly completely shut off from the rest of the world, in desperate poverty, with the government in complete control (as far as I understand it).
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10th June 2008, 09:26 AM	#15
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	Originally Posted by headscratcher4 http://wuntvor.mirror.waffleimages.c...3cac861ab0.jpg No, I guess it won't happen here... A camera in Spain = Orwellian state in the US? OK, so by this logic: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ost_world.html So I guess it can happen here too, with Bigfoot?

10th June 2008, 09:27 AM	#16
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	Originally Posted by headscratcher4 http://wuntvor.mirror.waffleimages.c...3cac861ab0.jpg No, I guess it won't happen here... Nice picture. Also saw the mini-series now and it was interesting. Thanks for pointing it out! You dirty commie!

10th June 2008, 09:34 AM	#17
headscratcher4 Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,749	Originally Posted by Pardalis A camera in Spain = Orwellian state in the US? OK, so by this logic: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ost_world.html So I guess it can happen here too, with Bigfoot? Get a sense of humor. Please.
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