Twelve-year-old sues Dad- "Don't ground me."

Madalch · 19th June 2008, 09:28 AM

A twelve-year-old girl is found posting inappropriate material on an inappropriate website, so her father grounds her.

She sues him, and wins.

The judge obviously has issues (but no issue).

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...her-court.html

BPSCG · 19th June 2008, 09:47 AM

Judge should have said, "Little girl, de minimis non curat lex. Now go look up what that means, write a five hundred word essay on it, and return it to me by Monday. And if I even think you plagiarized it off a web site, I'll order that you be beheaded."

Morrigan · 19th June 2008, 10:06 AM

Dear Cthulhu, I am hating this retarded nanny state with a passion even more by the minute.

Complexity · 19th June 2008, 10:26 AM

What a contemptible 'judge'.

mrbaracuda · 19th June 2008, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Morrigan

Dear Cthulhu, I am hating this retarded nanny state with a passion even more by the minute.

Why vote the lesser evil, right? Right?

Dogdoctor · 19th June 2008, 10:48 AM

That's weird. If the child was in the mothers care wouldn't the mother decide what care was appropriate? I doubt this would ever happen in USA since whoever is caring for the child gets to decide what is best.

mrbaracuda · 19th June 2008, 10:50 AM

But back to topic: So you can do that in Canada? What fancy country and legal system! First the Human Rights crap pops up here and there and now this beauty!

Oh, Canada!

Loss Leader · 19th June 2008, 11:07 AM

I can't tell by the reporting what the judge's ruling was. Has the case been printed?

Jimbo07 · 19th June 2008, 11:25 AM

Sounds brain-dead on the surface, but... as was asked by readers... where did the kid get the money and the lawyer?

Was this a huge family dispute between mom and dad that the judge did not want to get bogged down in?

Could it have been simply thrown-out or dismissed? Canadian lawyers? Anyone?

Aoidoi · 19th June 2008, 11:26 AM

Can children under the age of majority normally file lawsuits? I'd think that her legal guardian (apparently the father since he had custody) would normally have be involved somehow? If there's a lawyer involved on her end, who paid? Sounds like the mother would almost have to have been involved for this to even get to court.

And treating a field trip as some sort of incredibly important reason for interfering? That's asinine. I knew several people who missed our 8th grade field trip more or less at their own will without any damages. I'm honestly suprised that this is even worth a hearing, much less direct interference from a court. Is taking a trip now a legally guaranteed right in Canada?

Madalch · 19th June 2008, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Aoidoi

And treating a field trip as some sort of incredibly important reason for interfering? That's asinine. I knew several people who missed our 8th grade field trip more or less at their own will without any damages. I'm honestly suprised that this is even worth a hearing, much less direct interference from a court. Is taking a trip now a legally guaranteed right in Canada?

I suspect that "a field trip is a big deal" may be limited to Quebec. As an Albertan, I've never heard of it.

Jimbo07 · 19th June 2008, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Madalch

As an Albertan, I've never heard of it.

Your location calls you a liar!

Morrigan · 19th June 2008, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by mrbaracuda

Why vote the lesser evil, right? Right?

I don't understand.

Madalch · 19th June 2008, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jimbo07

Your location calls you a liar!

Having been born and raised in Alberta, and having spent most of the first thirty years of my life there, I feel that moving to BC does not strip me of my claim of being an Albertan, any more than I cease to be a Canadian every time I travel to Europe.

D'rok · 19th June 2008, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Morrigan

I don't understand.

http://www.cthulhu.org/

D'rok · 19th June 2008, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Madalch

Having been born and raised in Alberta, and having spent most of the first thirty years of my life there, I feel that moving to BC does not strip me of my claim of being an Albertan, any more than I cease to be a Canadian every time I travel to Europe.

I only truly became an Albertan after I moved to Upper Canada.

Jimbo07 · 19th June 2008, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Madalch

Having been born and raised in Alberta, and having spent most of the first thirty years of my life there, I feel that moving to BC does not strip me of my claim of being an Albertan, any more than I cease to be a Canadian every time I travel to Europe.

After being beaten, forced, shoe-horned, cajoled, seduced and ultimately agreeing of my own free will with no influence at all, I became an Albertan.

It is my conclusion that you are Albertan (BCtonianite, whatever) only when you are in Alberta, doing Alberta things. All the rest of the time you are (were) one of them...

van_dutch · 19th June 2008, 02:56 PM

Wow, and I thought frivolous law suits were only in America.

rwguinn · 19th June 2008, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by van_dutch

Wow, and I thought frivolous law suits were only in America.

Canada is in America. North America. So is Mexico...[/pedant mode]

NewtonTrino · 19th June 2008, 03:14 PM

Read the article people. Her parents are divorced and she used the lawyer that she already had appointed to represent her interests in the custody case. This seems more like a dispute between parents on how to raise the child and she does get some say in that as a minor. E.g. more of a family court thing than filing a real lawsuit.

Madalch · 19th June 2008, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

Canada is in America. North America.[/pedant mode]

If you're going to be pedantic, at least be correct. America =/= North America. Canadians despise being told that they are Americans. Rather like the Irish don't like being called "English", and the Ukrainians are tired of being called "Russians".

rwguinn · 19th June 2008, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Madalch

If you're going to be pedantic, at least be correct. America =/= North America. Canadians despise being told that they are Americans. Rather like the Irish don't like being called "English", and the Ukrainians are tired of being called "Russians".

Then they ought to look at a globe...

Fat Bottom Gurl · 19th June 2008, 03:55 PM

I heard this report on the CBC radio this afternoon while driving home from work. The mother "helped " the child. The kid was living with her father and he disabled some sites on the home computer, so she uploaded pictures of herself to some site on a friends computer. The father found out and as punishment he says she cannot go on the field trip. She decides to move in with her mother - the mother encourages the child to bring suit to have the father's say on the field trip overturned.

I find it rather repugnant that a mother would use her own child to get back at her ex (I know it happens) and to totally lose site of the reason "why" the father was reprimanded his daughter.

I know that I sure lost privledges when I disobyed my parents. How is a child to learn that actions have consequences if you have some parent running to a court to undermine another parent - in this case, I think the father was spot on with his punishment.

Even though the field trip has come and gone - the father is appealing this decision.

bigred · 19th June 2008, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Madalch

A twelve-year-old girl is found posting inappropriate material on an inappropriate website, so her father grounds her.

She sues him, and wins.

The judge obviously has issues (but no issue).

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...her-court.html

I was also surprised (shocked?) that this didn't happen in the U.S. Is our legal system's colossal stupidity contagious?

Originally Posted by rwguinn

Canada is in America. North America. So is Mexico...[/pedant mode]

ah there's that good ol American educational system shining through

BPSCG · 19th June 2008, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by bigred

I was also surprised (shocked?) that this didn't happen in the U.S. Is our legal system's colossal stupidity contagious?

See, that's why we need to be ever vigilant. First the Japanese started making cheap transistor radios and we laughed at them. Then they started making TVs and stereo equipment. Now you can't buy any consumer electronics made in the U.S.A. any more.

The Japanese started sending over tiny little Toyotas made out of aluminum foil in the 1950s and we laughed at them. Now Toyota and Nissan and Honda are eating GM's and Ford's and Chrysler's lunch.

We have to watch out or soon our monopoly on stupid lawsuits will go the way of Zenith, RCA, Oldsmobile, and Plymouth.

WAKE UP, AMERICA!!!

NoZed Avenger · 19th June 2008, 07:05 PM

I can't decide: should I feel better that people in other countries can act as stupid as we do, or worse?

bigred · 19th June 2008, 07:55 PM

Better. Misery loves company.

To BP: oh if only.

rwguinn · 19th June 2008, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by bigred

I was also surprised (shocked?) that this didn't happen in the U.S. Is our legal system's colossal stupidity contagious?

ah there's that good ol American educational system shining through

I beg your pardon.
There are 2 American continents North and South, connected by an isthmus known as Central America.
Many countries-2 continents. If you believe differently, show me a reference

Madalch · 19th June 2008, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

I beg your pardon.
There are 2 American continents North and South, connected by an isthmus known as Central America.

You can beg all you want, but you can't have it. There are two continents- North America and South America. The only people who call them "American continents" are idiots who think that both land masses are owned and operated by the USA. Not that there's any shortage of those, mind you...

Architect · 20th June 2008, 12:28 AM

Mainly in the US government.......

Mobyseven · 20th June 2008, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by Madalch

You can beg all you want, but you can't have it. There are two continents- North America and South America. The only people who call them "American continents" are idiots who think that both land masses are owned and operated by the USA. Not that there's any shortage of those, mind you...

Hang on a second. There are two continents: North America and South America. They are, together with Central America and surrounds, the region of the world known as the Americas.

...you're right. Makes absolutely no sense to call them the American continents.

rwguinn · 20th June 2008, 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by Madalch

You can beg all you want, but you can't have it. There are two continents- North America and South America. The only people who call them "American continents" are idiots who think that both land masses are owned and operated by the USA. Not that there's any shortage of those, mind you...

Thank you for the enlightenment.
So, what is the propern name for the continent (obviously wasteland, and useless for anything

) that now exists North of that great e-vil place known as the United States of America?
And we can now assume that NAFTA is not a conspiracy, but a treaty the United States is making with itself, since it is the only country in North America?

Sigh...

BPSCG · 20th June 2008, 04:42 AM

Let's see... Europe is connected to Asia at the Ural Mountains.

Asia is connected to Africa at the Sinai Peninsula.

Eurasica!

bigred · 20th June 2008, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

Thank you for the enlightenment.
So, what is the propern name for the continent (obviously wasteland, and useless for anything

) that now exists North of that great e-vil place known as the United States of America?

er FYI there is no continent north of the U.S. Good grief. You really should have paid more attention in geography class - or did they stop teaching that?

rwguinn · 20th June 2008, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by bigred

er FYI there is no continent north of the U.S. Good grief. You really should have paid more attention in geography class - or did they stop teaching that?

Do try to keep up.Madalch insists that Canada is NOT North Amenica. So he needs a name for it...
The

is a Sarcasm smiley

Originally Posted by Madalch

You can beg all you want, but you can't have it. There are two continents- North America and South America. The only people who call them "American continents" are idiots who think that both land masses are owned and operated by the USA. Not that there's any shortage of those, mind you...

bigred · 20th June 2008, 06:55 AM

Sorry, I'm plenty "kept up" and so is Madalch. It seems that no matter how it's stated, the light just isn't going to come on for you on this, but I'll try once more to spell it out...

There is quite a distinct diff between 2 CONTINENTS called North and South America and the COUNTRY known commonly as "America." Just because they share similar names does not equate them. Therefore, to say "Canada is in America" is wrong. That's kind of like saying West Virginia is part of Virginia (it's not, FYI). Canada is part of the continent known as North America.

yeesh

rwguinn · 20th June 2008, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by bigred

Sorry, I'm plenty "kept up" and so is Madalch. It seems that no matter how it's stated, the light just isn't going to come on for you on this, but I'll try once more to spell it out...

There is quite a distinct diff between 2 CONTINENTS called North and South America and the COUNTRY known commonly as "America." Just because they share similar names does not equate them. Therefore, to say "Canada is in America" is wrong. That's kind of like saying West Virginia is part of Virginia (it's not, FYI). Canada is part of the continent known as North America.

yeesh

Sigh.
the [/pedant] mode is wasted on the sense-of-humor deficient.
I give up...

bigred · 20th June 2008, 07:20 AM

OK then my bad I guess. moving on -

Madalch · 20th June 2008, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

Sigh.
the [/pedant] mode is wasted on the sense-of-humor deficient.
I give up...

Good. Try again once you've figured out that humour does not consist of saying something stupid over and over and over.

Mobyseven · 20th June 2008, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by bigred

Sorry, I'm plenty "kept up" and so is Madalch. It seems that no matter how it's stated, the light just isn't going to come on for you on this, but I'll try once more to spell it out...

There is quite a distinct diff between 2 CONTINENTS called North and South America and the COUNTRY known commonly as "America." Just because they share similar names does not equate them. Therefore, to say "Canada is in America" is wrong. That's kind of like saying West Virginia is part of Virginia (it's not, FYI). Canada is part of the continent known as North America.

yeesh

Hang on a second...that analogy doesn't make any sense. West Virginia is not in Virginia. Awesome. I'm happy for it. But how is that analogous to Canada not being in America, when it quite plainly is?

I'm sorry that you have an issue with this concept of one word being able to refer to two different things (the USA and the North American continent...or indeed the Americas as a whole), but it's an issue you're just going to have to get over.

19th June 2008, 09:28 AM	#1
Madalch The Jester Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The wet coast. Posts: 5,483	Twelve-year-old sues Dad- "Don't ground me." A twelve-year-old girl is found posting inappropriate material on an inappropriate website, so her father grounds her. She sues him, and wins. The judge obviously has issues (but no issue). http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...her-court.html
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19th June 2008, 09:47 AM	#2
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Judge should have said, "Little girl, de minimis non curat lex. Now go look up what that means, write a five hundred word essay on it, and return it to me by Monday. And if I even think you plagiarized it off a web site, I'll order that you be beheaded."
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19th June 2008, 10:06 AM	#3
Morrigan Crone of War Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,333	Dear Cthulhu, I am hating this retarded nanny state with a passion even more by the minute.
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19th June 2008, 10:26 AM	#4
Complexity The Woo Whisperer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 5,912	What a contemptible 'judge'.
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Dogdoctor Canis Doctorius Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pacific Ocean Posts: 12,381	That's weird. If the child was in the mothers care wouldn't the mother decide what care was appropriate? I doubt this would ever happen in USA since whoever is caring for the child gets to decide what is best.
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19th June 2008, 10:37 AM	#5
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	Originally Posted by Morrigan Dear Cthulhu, I am hating this retarded nanny state with a passion even more by the minute. Why vote the lesser evil, right? Right?

19th June 2008, 10:50 AM	#7
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	But back to topic: So you can do that in Canada? What fancy country and legal system! First the Human Rights crap pops up here and there and now this beauty! Oh, Canada!

19th June 2008, 11:07 AM	#8
Loss Leader Opinionated Jerk Tagger Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York Posts: 6,914	I can't tell by the reporting what the judge's ruling was. Has the case been printed?
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19th June 2008, 11:25 AM	#9
Jimbo07 Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,272	Sounds brain-dead on the surface, but... as was asked by readers... where did the kid get the money and the lawyer? Was this a huge family dispute between mom and dad that the judge did not want to get bogged down in? Could it have been simply thrown-out or dismissed? Canadian lawyers? Anyone?
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Aoidoi Master Poster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,958	Can children under the age of majority normally file lawsuits? I'd think that her legal guardian (apparently the father since he had custody) would normally have be involved somehow? If there's a lawyer involved on her end, who paid? Sounds like the mother would almost have to have been involved for this to even get to court. And treating a field trip as some sort of incredibly important reason for interfering? That's asinine. I knew several people who missed our 8th grade field trip more or less at their own will without any damages. I'm honestly suprised that this is even worth a hearing, much less direct interference from a court. Is taking a trip now a legally guaranteed right in Canada?
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19th June 2008, 11:35 AM	#11
Madalch The Jester Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The wet coast. Posts: 5,483	Originally Posted by Aoidoi And treating a field trip as some sort of incredibly important reason for interfering? That's asinine. I knew several people who missed our 8th grade field trip more or less at their own will without any damages. I'm honestly suprised that this is even worth a hearing, much less direct interference from a court. Is taking a trip now a legally guaranteed right in Canada? I suspect that "a field trip is a big deal" may be limited to Quebec. As an Albertan, I've never heard of it.
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Jimbo07 Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,272	Originally Posted by Madalch As an Albertan, I've never heard of it. Your location calls you a liar!
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Morrigan Crone of War Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,333	Originally Posted by mrbaracuda Why vote the lesser evil, right? Right? I don't understand.
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19th June 2008, 02:18 PM	#14
Madalch The Jester Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The wet coast. Posts: 5,483	Originally Posted by Jimbo07 Your location calls you a liar! Having been born and raised in Alberta, and having spent most of the first thirty years of my life there, I feel that moving to BC does not strip me of my claim of being an Albertan, any more than I cease to be a Canadian every time I travel to Europe.
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D'rok Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ottawa Posts: 3,791	Originally Posted by Morrigan I don't understand. http://www.cthulhu.org/
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D'rok Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ottawa Posts: 3,791	Originally Posted by Madalch Having been born and raised in Alberta, and having spent most of the first thirty years of my life there, I feel that moving to BC does not strip me of my claim of being an Albertan, any more than I cease to be a Canadian every time I travel to Europe. I only truly became an Albertan after I moved to Upper Canada.
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19th June 2008, 02:49 PM	#17
Jimbo07 Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,272	Originally Posted by Madalch Having been born and raised in Alberta, and having spent most of the first thirty years of my life there, I feel that moving to BC does not strip me of my claim of being an Albertan, any more than I cease to be a Canadian every time I travel to Europe. After being beaten, forced, shoe-horned, cajoled, seduced and ultimately agreeing of my own free will with no influence at all, I became an Albertan. It is my conclusion that you are Albertan (BCtonianite, whatever) only when you are in Alberta, doing Alberta things. All the rest of the time you are (were) one of them...
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van_dutch Thinker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 140	Wow, and I thought frivolous law suits were only in America.

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rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by van_dutch Wow, and I thought frivolous law suits were only in America. Canada is in America. North America. So is Mexico...[/pedant mode]
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NewtonTrino Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 2,006	Read the article people. Her parents are divorced and she used the lawyer that she already had appointed to represent her interests in the custody case. This seems more like a dispute between parents on how to raise the child and she does get some say in that as a minor. E.g. more of a family court thing than filing a real lawsuit.

19th June 2008, 03:42 PM	#21
Madalch The Jester Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The wet coast. Posts: 5,483	Originally Posted by rwguinn Canada is in America. North America.[/pedant mode] If you're going to be pedantic, at least be correct. America =/= North America. Canadians despise being told that they are Americans. Rather like the Irish don't like being called "English", and the Ukrainians are tired of being called "Russians".
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rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by Madalch If you're going to be pedantic, at least be correct. America =/= North America. Canadians despise being told that they are Americans. Rather like the Irish don't like being called "English", and the Ukrainians are tired of being called "Russians". Then they ought to look at a globe...
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Fat Bottom Gurl Hot Tub Hottie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Somewhere on the 3rd Meridian Posts: 506	I heard this report on the CBC radio this afternoon while driving home from work. The mother "helped " the child. The kid was living with her father and he disabled some sites on the home computer, so she uploaded pictures of herself to some site on a friends computer. The father found out and as punishment he says she cannot go on the field trip. She decides to move in with her mother - the mother encourages the child to bring suit to have the father's say on the field trip overturned. I find it rather repugnant that a mother would use her own child to get back at her ex (I know it happens) and to totally lose site of the reason "why" the father was reprimanded his daughter. I know that I sure lost privledges when I disobyed my parents. How is a child to learn that actions have consequences if you have some parent running to a court to undermine another parent - in this case, I think the father was spot on with his punishment. Even though the field trip has come and gone - the father is appealing this decision.
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19th June 2008, 06:30 PM	#24
bigred Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,800	Originally Posted by Madalch A twelve-year-old girl is found posting inappropriate material on an inappropriate website, so her father grounds her. She sues him, and wins. The judge obviously has issues (but no issue). http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...her-court.html I was also surprised (shocked?) that this didn't happen in the U.S. Is our legal system's colossal stupidity contagious? Originally Posted by rwguinn Canada is in America. North America. So is Mexico...[/pedant mode] ah there's that good ol American educational system shining through
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BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Originally Posted by bigred I was also surprised (shocked?) that this didn't happen in the U.S. Is our legal system's colossal stupidity contagious? See, that's why we need to be ever vigilant. First the Japanese started making cheap transistor radios and we laughed at them. Then they started making TVs and stereo equipment. Now you can't buy any consumer electronics made in the U.S.A. any more. The Japanese started sending over tiny little Toyotas made out of aluminum foil in the 1950s and we laughed at them. Now Toyota and Nissan and Honda are eating GM's and Ford's and Chrysler's lunch. We have to watch out or soon our monopoly on stupid lawsuits will go the way of Zenith, RCA, Oldsmobile, and Plymouth. *WAKE UP, AMERICA!!!*
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19th June 2008, 07:05 PM	#26
NoZed Avenger Bitter Whiner Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,376	I can't decide: should I feel better that people in other countries can act as stupid as we do, or worse?

19th June 2008, 07:55 PM	#27
bigred Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,800	Better. Misery loves company. To BP: oh if only.

19th June 2008, 08:31 PM	#28
rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by bigred I was also surprised (shocked?) that this didn't happen in the U.S. Is our legal system's colossal stupidity contagious? ah there's that good ol American educational system shining through I beg your pardon. There are 2 American continents North and South, connected by an isthmus known as Central America. Many countries-2 continents. If you believe differently, show me a reference
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19th June 2008, 08:50 PM	#29
Madalch The Jester Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The wet coast. Posts: 5,483	Originally Posted by rwguinn I beg your pardon. There are 2 American continents North and South, connected by an isthmus known as Central America. You can beg all you want, but you can't have it. There are two continents- North America and South America. The only people who call them "American continents" are idiots who think that both land masses are owned and operated by the USA. Not that there's any shortage of those, mind you...
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20th June 2008, 12:28 AM	#30
Architect Chief Punkah Wallah Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 6,422	Mainly in the US government.......
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20th June 2008, 12:40 AM	#31
Mobyseven President of Covert-Ops Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Not the Rat. Posts: 5,517	Originally Posted by Madalch You can beg all you want, but you can't have it. There are two continents- North America and South America. The only people who call them "American continents" are idiots who think that both land masses are owned and operated by the USA. Not that there's any shortage of those, mind you... Hang on a second. There are two continents: North America and South America. They are, together with Central America and surrounds, the region of the world known as the Americas. ...you're right. Makes absolutely no sense to call them the American continents.
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20th June 2008, 04:37 AM	#32
rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by Madalch You can beg all you want, but you can't have it. There are two continents- North America and South America. The only people who call them "American continents" are idiots who think that both land masses are owned and operated by the USA. Not that there's any shortage of those, mind you... Thank you for the enlightenment. So, what is the propern name for the continent (obviously wasteland, and useless for anything) that now exists North of that great e-vil place known as the United States of America? And we can now assume that NAFTA is not a conspiracy, but a treaty the United States is making with itself, since it is the only country in North America? Sigh...
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20th June 2008, 04:42 AM	#33
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Let's see... Europe is connected to Asia at the Ural Mountains. Asia is connected to Africa at the Sinai Peninsula. Eurasica!
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20th June 2008, 06:22 AM	#34
bigred Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,800	Originally Posted by rwguinn Thank you for the enlightenment. So, what is the propern name for the continent (obviously wasteland, and useless for anything) that now exists North of that great e-vil place known as the United States of America? er FYI there is no continent north of the U.S. Good grief. You really should have paid more attention in geography class - or did they stop teaching that?

20th June 2008, 06:40 AM	#35
rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by bigred er FYI there is no continent north of the U.S. Good grief. You really should have paid more attention in geography class - or did they stop teaching that? Do try to keep up.Madalch insists that Canada is NOT North Amenica. So he needs a name for it... The is a Sarcasm smiley Originally Posted by Madalch You can beg all you want, but you can't have it. There are two continents- North America and South America. The only people who call them "American continents" are idiots who think that both land masses are owned and operated by the USA. Not that there's any shortage of those, mind you...
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