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The worst gutter rubbish I have seen so far on JREF.
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wow that's just.......
a new Low for the debunkers. gratulations. |
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"You post a lie, it is proven 100% false, you move the goalposts and post yet another lie and it continues on around till we're back to the original lie as if it will somehow become true if it's re-iterated again. The same misquotes over and over again. The same hindsight bias, appeals to authority, etc." -lapman describing every twoofer on the internet |
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Does this thread have anything to do with 9/11 conspiracy theories?
I think not. It should be moved. Sizzler (… ah, I mean Walter) |
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Yeah, one Debunker speculated it was Truthers and pretty much everyone else pointed out the lack of evidence and concluded there is no connection to the Truth Movement based on what is known.
That's how real skepticism works guys. |
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But it's a good thing that JihadJane and DC were here to point out the error of our ways, or else we would have never known. Those two are the real heroes.
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Critical Doofus
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"You post a lie, it is proven 100% false, you move the goalposts and post yet another lie and it continues on around till we're back to the original lie as if it will somehow become true if it's re-iterated again. The same misquotes over and over again. The same hindsight bias, appeals to authority, etc." -lapman describing every twoofer on the internet |
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i just posted my opinion, adn i saw that indeed most did point out that there seems to be no connection.
but this is trowing a strange light on JREF, especially because the topic is not moved out of 9/11 Conspiracy subforum, even after debunkers pointed out the lack of connections to 9/11. when a truther is shooting around or hiting people in weelchairs there is alot of posts, look typical twoofers, typical this typical that.... twoofer twoofer twoofer..... or like one of the posters here is so sure that twoofers are so violent for sure one day one twoofer will kill someone. to put all CT's in one big pot and nicely mixing it is no problem here, but do not dear to do the same with debunkers...... |
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Critical Doofus
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"You post a lie, it is proven 100% false, you move the goalposts and post yet another lie and it continues on around till we're back to the original lie as if it will somehow become true if it's re-iterated again. The same misquotes over and over again. The same hindsight bias, appeals to authority, etc." -lapman describing every twoofer on the internet |
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Yes, I made an assumption I shouldn't have and got my intellectual knuckles rapped for it. I admit it and concede the point.
Meanwhile, Jihadjane (lovely name for someone trying to convince us Al-Queada doesn't exist, BTW) and Dictator Cheney have accused: 1.) Thousands of New York firefighters of killing or covering up for the killers of 343 of their "brothers in hoses" 2.) Hundreds of US servicemen and civillian defense department employees of murdering or covering up the murders of more than a hundred of thier comrades at the Pentagon 3.) Canadian Armed Forces NORAD personnel of covering up the murders of 24 of their countrymen And what is their evidence for this? They admit they don't have any! Which is why they want a new investigation! Both of you can just bite me. |
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Penultimate Amazing
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Except for the fact that I didn't. Go back and look at the disclaimer in my original post. Also note the lack of an edit tag at the bottom.
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I think it was the wording of the poster, whom you quoted, that linked the protesters with Obama...IIRC.
I think you have done more than enough for any error or transgression you may have committed SOT. TAM
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Critical Doofus
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We should still hold ourselves to a higher standard. Political blogs have agendas, and as such are notoriously unreliable and/or skewed factually. "As long as it's on the internet" may be fine for the woo-heads, but we owe it to ourselves to do some verification for credibility purposes.
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True dat. Just don't let it happen again.
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"You post a lie, it is proven 100% false, you move the goalposts and post yet another lie and it continues on around till we're back to the original lie as if it will somehow become true if it's re-iterated again. The same misquotes over and over again. The same hindsight bias, appeals to authority, etc." -lapman describing every twoofer on the internet |
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I wonder how long until we see CT forum threads with titles like:
Debunker on JREF accuses Truth Movement of attack on bus, other Debunkers agree and hail Bush as greatest American....... also brave Warrior for Truth "defends" himself from attack by boy in iron lung. |
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To be fair there really is no evidence that this crime was commited by Truthers, the sings on the over pass are anti war, not 9/11 Truth and the witnesses describe them as Anarchists or Protesters. From other incidents it seems that a group of violently anti-war protesters has been causing a lot of trouble, it's not Truthers though.
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It must be fun to lead a life completely unburdened by reality. -- JayUtah I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. -- Charles Babbage (1791-1871) My Apollo Page. 1 on 1 Debating Forum for Skeptics and sceptics.
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Excellent!
If the worst here is a poster making an unsupported claim, promptly getting his knuckles rapped for it by fellow skeptics, promptly acknowledging his error, resiling from it and apologizing for it, then we're doing pretty darned good indeed! Kudos to Sword_of_Truth for recognizing and quickly acknowledging and admitting his error, long before the "johnny come lately" twoofer types such as JihadJane and DictatorCheney piped in. |
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As I said above (before I saw this particular post of yours), you should read the MA again - repeatedly - until you understand it, as this post of yours appears to breach at least two, and perhaps three, rules simultaneously.
Unless you are deliberately working on a "suicide by mod" departure (and you would not be the first to do so, of course), I would suggest that you read the MA as many times as required for you to comprehend the simple rules therein, and that you post in accordance with those rules. |
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Gatekeeper of The Left
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Here we had some punk-ass kids throwing ice balls at cars on New Year's Eve a few years back. One of them broke a windshield out of a pickup truck and decapitated the driver...
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I've been involved in a lot of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader.--Creed, "The Office" The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices to be only found in the minds of men. Prejudices and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own.--Rod Serling |
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Yes, something like that, though I don't remember mentioning the word "facts". I hope you aren't putting a dishonest spin on my words.You still haven't explained why you disagree with my opinion. Science is often misappropriated to serve political interests.
JREF's scepticism flag is a false one. Poster after poster on this thread is quite willing, to a comical degree, to accept bin Laden's guilt on the flimsiest of evidence which, as one poster at least accepts, would have no chance of standing up in a court of law. The belief in bin Laden's guilt appears to be conviction- and faith-based. There seems little interest amongst "debunkers" in scientifically examining the well-establish MO of Intelligence agencies in controlling their often unsavoury assets or their many methods of duping the public. Here is an Osama bin Laden statement, no less well authenticated than those that have been used to justify killing thousands of men, women and children living in Afghanistan, which "debunkers" ignore for no other reason, apparently, than that it contradicts their conviction-based belief system: “I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks....The American system is totally in the control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States ... I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom.” http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle20521.htm |
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