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xinit · 9th September 2008, 09:44 PM

I've been conducting something of an 'infowar' here in Halifax, where I've been removing those "9-11 Was an Inside Job" stickers that someone has been posting up all over town. Nearly as soon as I've taken them down, they've been replaced. If nothing else, I'm helping them waste their money on vinyl stickers...

Lately the stickers haven't been popping back up; I thought maybe that they'd just given up. Until tonight.

I've found a number of handbills taped up on light poles now, advertising another website of crazy theories. The text of the handbill is below:

Quote:

CAN A BOEING 747-200 FLY OVER 500 MPH AT 700 FEET ALTITUDE?

9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB...AND IT'S WORSE THAN YOU THINK!

WWW.911TABOO.NET

BROUGHT TO YOU BY REAL WORLD PHYSICS!

PEACEARMADA@HOTMAIL.COM

TAXES FOR HEALTH CARE - NOT WARFARE!

981 km/h = 609 m/h, so I'll say "Yes, it could fly that fast, regardless of altitude... it wouldn't be that hard for a pilot who's not too concerned with life or safety.

Anyhow, I didn't get much past the first video on the taboo site... I haven't even got to the "911 Taboo" video yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgLr9rysGJ4

Something about straight lines and planes not flying in them. Honestly; it's like they've drafted the Time Cube guy to their cause... "Planes in parallel lines converging your teachers are stupid! Don't understand new cubic lines parallel not straight and normal cubic flight paths..."

I don't have the patience to deal with truthers, but I can debate homeopaths all day long. How do people not just want to punch these guys in the throats when they start ranting about how steel doesn't melt?

WildCat · 9th September 2008, 10:17 PM

I've never seen one of those stickers here!

Oh, and no 747s were hijacked on 9/11, but why would truthers get that right either?

Jonnyclueless · 9th September 2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by WildCat

Oh, and no 747s were hijacked on 9/11, but why would truthers get that right either?

Do you have pictures of the serial numbers on the planes found to prove that?

eromitlab · 10th September 2008, 12:05 AM

Go out to Lombard, WildCat... it's the only place I've ever seen one of those stickers, stuck to one of the signs just off the Reagan Tollway at Highland Avenue. This was last October, though, but it's a sign of an admittedly weak truthist presence in the area.

xinit · 10th September 2008, 08:59 AM

The links on the images go to the larger versions on Flickr

Initially, I simply tore the black and white stickers down when I found them. Lately I've taken to collecting them. It's amazing how many of them spring up in only the single kilometer course I walk daily to and from work.

They're decent quality stickers on vinyl, that easily come off in one piece if you're careful. I just fold them up, matching sticky sides, stick them in my pocket, and add them to the collection when I get home.

dudalb · 10th September 2008, 11:25 AM

Psychics, and Truthers..a sort of perfect storm of Woo.

Cl1mh4224rd · 10th September 2008, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by xinit

I've found a number of handbills taped up on light poles now, advertising another website of crazy theories.

Originally Posted by WildCat

Oh, and no 747s were hijacked on 9/11, but why would truthers get that right either?

Hehe. Instead of tearing them down, xinit, grab a Sharpie and write "No 747s were hijacked on 9/11" on them.

xinit · 10th September 2008, 07:30 PM

Had to look it up...

American Airlines Flight 11 aircraft was a Boeing 767-223ER
United Airlines Flight 175 aircraft was a Boeing 767-222/ER
American Airlines Flight 77 aircraft was a Boeing 757-223
United Airlines Flight 93 aircraft was a Boeing 757-200

Could almost be a typo, but 93 didn't crash into the towers...

WildCat · 10th September 2008, 09:02 PM

On their forum there's a thread praising Ace Baker, 'nuff said.

Cl1mh4224rd · 10th September 2008, 09:03 PM

[ Ack. Stupid post. Need sleep. Sorry.

]

xinit · 24th September 2008, 02:18 PM

The peacearmada guy has now started sending me emails about how particle physics had to have been suspended that day in order for a plane to crash into a building.

I think someone was googling himself and found this post. Comments on one of the videos he'd posted to my weblog seemed to seriously offer up CGI and holography as methods that the government used to pull the proverbial wool over our eyes.

He then tells me to go watch TV... I don't own a TV, thus I don't have the government broadcasting mind control rays into my home.

Walter Ego · 24th September 2008, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd

Hehe. Instead of tearing them down, xinit, grab a Sharpie and write "No 747s were hijacked on 9/11" on them.

How about a counter-sticker, address label size, that you could print up on your PC, giving the urls of this forum, 911 Myths, Mark Roberts' site, etc. that you could slap over the truther stickers?

xinit · 24th September 2008, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Walter Ego

How about a counter-sticker, address label size, that you could print up on your PC, giving the urls of this forum, 911 Myths, Mark Roberts' site, etc. that you could slap over the truther stickers?

Not a bad idea. I thought about editing them with a Sharpie, but that was more effort than just taking them down. A counter-sticker-terrorism campaign might be a good idea, actually.

xinit · 25th September 2008, 06:56 AM

So, peacearmada has been writing me some love notes. I asked her why she kept telling me to go watch some more TV, and I said that I don't even have a TV...

One of the funniest bits is when peacearmada accuses me of 'needing help from dick' in fighting off her truth. I was confused, and even more so when she mentioned that 'vic' and 'dick' were teaming up on her.

Well, my nickname on my blog (Bankrupt Artist) is xinit. That's who I responded to as there. Using Truther Powers, she was able to see through my nick of xinit and see the real nick behind it of vic... Maybe xinit is just some elaborate part of the corporate hegemony that's seeking to keep us all locked in the Matrix or whatever?

When you have such good attention to detail to mix up "xinit" and "vic", I'm sure you can be trusted with the details involved in the physics of collision and free-fall.

I don't understand how watching TV renders one a sheep automatically, but subscribing to a YouTube channel doesn't.

Originally Posted by peacearmada

Dick: I think you may be a little slow....I do not own a tv......! I am a graduate student who reads books, not blogs. What about you dick? *lol*
I am telling you to go back and watch tv becuase it has ridden you a useless citizen...obsessed with fluff culture and the "afghanistan "mission" of saving lives....when you have absolutely no idea! So please don't pretend to know....your time would be better spent sitting alone in front of your idiot box...drooling.... perhaps watching some canadian idol....

But that does not follow that you are qualified to discuss these issues with me, or anyone else for that matter!

Thank me......and piss off!

now beat it baa baa!

She contacted ME, though. Sometimes it's hard NOT to feed the trolls though, so I had to respond.

Originally Posted by xinit

I worry about the state of the schools with quality examples of students who can barely form a coherent argument without resorting to ad hominem attacks. You can't make a logical argument so you make unfounded accusations about the other person. You appear to believe that you're better than me why; because you have an excellent grasp of the English language usage and grammar? Since when does someone need to be qualified in order to discuss conspiracy theory; that's hardly been the precedent.

You contacted me, so the pissing off and the beating it is up to you.

Why do people assume that the name Dick offends everyone named Richard? I had a Welsh teacher in elementary school who insisted on called me Dick. It's not my preferred choice, but I got over it in fourth grade.

Originally Posted by peacearmada

no dick...because i understand that the most tragic event in recent history was perpetuated by the U.S. government (along with a psychological operation on you tv lovers) and you're eating it up like starving children......and paying them to kill innocent people in far off lands with oil that we want to steal from them.....get it?

Freedom we yell, Democracy!...more aid!!! ****, I cant even start with you!

The FACT dick, is that NO PLANES crashed on 9/11! If you can't get your nimble little brain around that?....then you have no idea how we got here....and will be blindsided by what comes next after they crash the U.S. economy.....this is a managed, contrived crisis.....

****, you minions don't get ****** So, it angers people who have a clue to see little matrix insects such as yourself.....running around laughing at the "truthers".....get a clue dude.

i'm a chick btw.......lol, and a whole pile smarter than u.......so again.....go back to your war game playing and frivolous chatter

It's just background noise.

Then I realized just how much the Truthers had changed their story. Now they claim that there weren't even any planes at all; that it was holographic projections wrapped around missiles. Wouldn't it be easier for the government to just use PLANES rather than develop super holographic projection systems to pretend they were planes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5NNh6WnVZo&NR=1

Wow. The comments on these videos are amazing in their own right.

Originally Posted by xinit

Okay, you don't seem to be able to process simple information; I don't
believe what I see on TV. I don't OWN a TV as I've said before. How is believing what I see on YouTube any better?

I know that the government lies to us on issues. Until someone actually offers up information in a clear fashion that doesn't revolve solely around re-edited footage on YouTube with more statistics about how fast planes can go typed across the overly compressed video. If planes didn't hit the towers on 9/11, then tell me what I saw hit; not what was seen ON TV, but what was seen IN NEW YORK. Was there some big Evil Villain style plot that poisoned the water supply? Some sophisticated holographic system from Star Trek? What?

However, maybe it would be easier to open up a dialogue than to hurl accusations at people you don't know.

9th September 2008, 09:44 PM	#1
xinit Muse Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 569	Infowars and 911taboo.net I've been conducting something of an 'infowar' here in Halifax, where I've been removing those "9-11 Was an Inside Job" stickers that someone has been posting up all over town. Nearly as soon as I've taken them down, they've been replaced. If nothing else, I'm helping them waste their money on vinyl stickers... Lately the stickers haven't been popping back up; I thought maybe that they'd just given up. Until tonight. I've found a number of handbills taped up on light poles now, advertising another website of crazy theories. The text of the handbill is below: Quote: CAN A BOEING 747-200 FLY OVER 500 MPH AT 700 FEET ALTITUDE? 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB...AND IT'S WORSE THAN YOU THINK! WWW.911TABOO.NET BROUGHT TO YOU BY REAL WORLD PHYSICS! PEACEARMADA@HOTMAIL.COM TAXES FOR HEALTH CARE - NOT WARFARE! 981 km/h = 609 m/h, so I'll say "Yes, it could fly that fast, regardless of altitude... it wouldn't be that hard for a pilot who's not too concerned with life or safety. Anyhow, I didn't get much past the first video on the taboo site... I haven't even got to the "911 Taboo" video yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgLr9rysGJ4 Something about straight lines and planes not flying in them. Honestly; it's like they've drafted the Time Cube guy to their cause... "Planes in parallel lines converging your teachers are stupid! Don't understand new cubic lines parallel not straight and normal cubic flight paths..." I don't have the patience to deal with truthers, but I can debate homeopaths all day long. How do people not just want to punch these guys in the throats when they start ranting about how steel doesn't melt?

10th September 2008, 12:05 AM	#4
eromitlab Muse Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: north Alabama Posts: 921	Go out to Lombard, WildCat... it's the only place I've ever seen one of those stickers, stuck to one of the signs just off the Reagan Tollway at Highland Avenue. This was last October, though, but it's a sign of an admittedly weak truthist presence in the area.
	__________________ With my reputation, I do expect everyone to take what I say at face value. -Galileo

10th September 2008, 09:03 PM	#10
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 6,618	[ Ack. Stupid post. Need sleep. Sorry. ]
	Last edited by Cl1mh4224rd; 10th September 2008 at 09:05 PM.

9th September 2008, 10:17 PM	#2
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,111	I've never seen one of those stickers here! Oh, and no 747s were hijacked on 9/11, but why would truthers get that right either?

9th September 2008, 10:21 PM	#3
Jonnyclueless Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,360	Originally Posted by WildCat Oh, and no 747s were hijacked on 9/11, but why would truthers get that right either? Do you have pictures of the serial numbers on the planes found to prove that?

10th September 2008, 08:59 AM	#5
xinit Muse Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 569	The links on the images go to the larger versions on Flickr Initially, I simply tore the black and white stickers down when I found them. Lately I've taken to collecting them. It's amazing how many of them spring up in only the single kilometer course I walk daily to and from work. They're decent quality stickers on vinyl, that easily come off in one piece if you're careful. I just fold them up, matching sticky sides, stick them in my pocket, and add them to the collection when I get home.

10th September 2008, 11:25 AM	#6
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,848	Psychics, and Truthers..a sort of perfect storm of Woo.

10th September 2008, 05:55 PM	#7
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 6,618	Originally Posted by xinit I've found a number of handbills taped up on light poles now, advertising another website of crazy theories. Originally Posted by WildCat Oh, and no 747s were hijacked on 9/11, but why would truthers get that right either? Hehe. Instead of tearing them down, xinit, grab a Sharpie and write "No 747s were hijacked on 9/11" on them.

10th September 2008, 07:30 PM	#8
xinit Muse Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 569	Had to look it up... American Airlines Flight 11 aircraft was a Boeing 767-223ER United Airlines Flight 175 aircraft was a Boeing 767-222/ER American Airlines Flight 77 aircraft was a Boeing 757-223 United Airlines Flight 93 aircraft was a Boeing 757-200 Could almost be a typo, but 93 didn't crash into the towers...

10th September 2008, 09:02 PM	#9
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,111	On their forum there's a thread praising Ace Baker, 'nuff said.

24th September 2008, 02:18 PM	#11
xinit Muse Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 569	The peacearmada guy has now started sending me emails about how particle physics had to have been suspended that day in order for a plane to crash into a building. I think someone was googling himself and found this post. Comments on one of the videos he'd posted to my weblog seemed to seriously offer up CGI and holography as methods that the government used to pull the proverbial wool over our eyes. He then tells me to go watch TV... I don't own a TV, thus I don't have the government broadcasting mind control rays into my home.

24th September 2008, 04:15 PM	#12
Walter Ego Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,557	Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd Hehe. Instead of tearing them down, xinit, grab a Sharpie and write "No 747s were hijacked on 9/11" on them. How about a counter-sticker, address label size, that you could print up on your PC, giving the urls of this forum, 911 Myths, Mark Roberts' site, etc. that you could slap over the truther stickers?

24th September 2008, 04:24 PM	#13
xinit Muse Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 569	Originally Posted by Walter Ego How about a counter-sticker, address label size, that you could print up on your PC, giving the urls of this forum, 911 Myths, Mark Roberts' site, etc. that you could slap over the truther stickers? Not a bad idea. I thought about editing them with a Sharpie, but that was more effort than just taking them down. A counter-sticker-terrorism campaign might be a good idea, actually.

25th September 2008, 06:56 AM	#14
xinit Muse Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 569	So, peacearmada has been writing me some love notes. I asked her why she kept telling me to go watch some more TV, and I said that I don't even have a TV... One of the funniest bits is when peacearmada accuses me of 'needing help from dick' in fighting off her truth. I was confused, and even more so when she mentioned that 'vic' and 'dick' were teaming up on her. Well, my nickname on my blog (Bankrupt Artist) is xinit. That's who I responded to as there. Using Truther Powers, she was able to see through my nick of xinit and see the real nick behind it of vic... Maybe xinit is just some elaborate part of the corporate hegemony that's seeking to keep us all locked in the Matrix or whatever? When you have such good attention to detail to mix up "xinit" and "vic", I'm sure you can be trusted with the details involved in the physics of collision and free-fall. I don't understand how watching TV renders one a sheep automatically, but subscribing to a YouTube channel doesn't. Originally Posted by peacearmada Dick: I think you may be a little slow....I do not own a tv......! I am a graduate student who reads books, not blogs. What about you dick? lol I am telling you to go back and watch tv becuase it has ridden you a useless citizen...obsessed with fluff culture and the "afghanistan "mission" of saving lives....when you have absolutely no idea! So please don't pretend to know....your time would be better spent sitting alone in front of your idiot box...drooling.... perhaps watching some canadian idol.... But that does not follow that you are qualified to discuss these issues with me, or anyone else for that matter! Thank me......and piss off! now beat it baa baa! She contacted ME, though. Sometimes it's hard NOT to feed the trolls though, so I had to respond. Originally Posted by xinit I worry about the state of the schools with quality examples of students who can barely form a coherent argument without resorting to ad hominem attacks. You can't make a logical argument so you make unfounded accusations about the other person. You appear to believe that you're better than me why; because you have an excellent grasp of the English language usage and grammar? Since when does someone need to be qualified in order to discuss conspiracy theory; that's hardly been the precedent. You contacted me, so the pissing off and the beating it is up to you. Why do people assume that the name Dick offends everyone named Richard? I had a Welsh teacher in elementary school who insisted on called me Dick. It's not my preferred choice, but I got over it in fourth grade. Originally Posted by peacearmada no dick...because i understand that the most tragic event in recent history was perpetuated by the U.S. government (along with a psychological operation on you tv lovers) and you're eating it up like starving children......and paying them to kill innocent people in far off lands with oil that we want to steal from them.....get it? Freedom we yell, Democracy!...more aid!!! **, I cant even start with you! The FACT dick, is that NO PLANES crashed on 9/11! If you can't get your nimble little brain around that?....then you have no idea how we got here....and will be blindsided by what comes next after they crash the U.S. economy.....this is a managed, contrived crisis..... , you minions don't get ** So, it angers people who have a clue to see little matrix insects such as yourself.....running around laughing at the "truthers".....get a clue dude. i'm a chick btw.......lol, and a whole pile smarter than u.......so again.....go back to your war game playing and frivolous chatter It's just background noise. Then I realized just how much the Truthers had changed their story. Now they claim that there weren't even any planes at all; that it was holographic projections wrapped around missiles. Wouldn't it be easier for the government to just use PLANES rather than develop super holographic projection systems to pretend they were planes? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5NNh6WnVZo&NR=1 Wow. The comments on these videos are amazing in their own right. Originally Posted by xinit** Okay, you don't seem to be able to process simple information; I don't believe what I see on TV. I don't OWN a TV as I've said before. How is believing what I see on YouTube any better? I know that the government lies to us on issues. Until someone actually offers up information in a clear fashion that doesn't revolve solely around re-edited footage on YouTube with more statistics about how fast planes can go typed across the overly compressed video. If planes didn't hit the towers on 9/11, then tell me what I saw hit; not what was seen ON TV, but what was seen IN NEW YORK. Was there some big Evil Villain style plot that poisoned the water supply? Some sophisticated holographic system from Star Trek? What? However, maybe it would be easier to open up a dialogue than to hurl accusations at people you don't know.