[Split Thread] Turbofan's Engineering forum links (split from: AA77 FDR Data, Explained)

WildCat · 20th September 2008, 04:50 PM

Turbofan, when will you start your thread on the electronics engineering forum which pwns us all?

Will you link to it when you do?

Disbelief · 20th September 2008, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by WildCat

Turbofan, when will you start your thread on the electronics engineering forum which pwns us all?

Will you link to it when you do?

Yes, all of us EETs are on the edge of our seats!!

Myriad · 20th September 2008, 05:18 PM

If I don't see a link to Turbofan's electronics forum thread, the most likely conclusion is that he did post such a thread, and doesn't want to tell anyone the results. After all, he wouldn't lie about his intention to post it, not when it's so trivially easy to actually do.

Respectfully,
Myriad

TjW · 20th September 2008, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Myriad

<snippage>
After all, he wouldn't lie about his intention to post it, not when it's so trivially easy to actually do.

Respectfully,
Myriad

There's a language award, a pith award, even a stundie award. If there was an optimist of the month award, you'd be nominated.

Myriad · 20th September 2008, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by TjW

There's a language award, a pith award, even a stundie award. If there was an optimist of the month award, you'd be nominated.

How about a sarcasm award?

Respectfully,
Myriad

Bobert · 20th September 2008, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by WildCat

Turbofan, when will you start your thread on the electronics engineering forum which pwns us all?

Will you link to it when you do?

The funny thing is that he actually thinks that people will support him.
Is Turbo like 13 yrs old?
Yes I am looking forward to this proof from turbo which i am sure will never arrive.

WildCat · 20th September 2008, 10:25 PM

So Turbofan, have you posted your pwnage of Mackey on that electronic engineering forum yet? Do you have a link?

chillzero · 21st September 2008, 03:16 AM

I don't want to see any flaming, or personal attacks. This thread was split to prevent further derail. Keep it civil, and on topic please.

Posted By:chillzero

WildCat · 21st September 2008, 05:18 AM

Thanks chillzero, I can't wait to see his thread in the EE forum! Don't forget to link to this one in the OP Turbofan, so everyone knows exactly the context of what you're talking about!

e^n · 21st September 2008, 05:20 AM

Could someone fill me in on the background to this? I've been spending most of my time posting at ATS so I must have missed the comedy.

jhunter1163 · 21st September 2008, 05:26 AM

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=66047&page=60

From the last post on this page forward. Turbofan takes on R. Mackey and promises to post R. Mackey's "errors" on various electronics forums.

*chuckles*

T.A.M. · 21st September 2008, 05:29 AM

Can someone quote or repost the links when he does (some of us have him [Turbofan] on ignore, but would still like to enjoy watching him have his ass handed to him).

TAM

jhunter1163 · 21st September 2008, 05:38 AM

Will do, TAM, if it ever happens (which I wouldn't bet on-I think he's just trying to brazen it out, and failing).

WildCat · 21st September 2008, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

Will do, TAM, if it ever happens (which I wouldn't bet on-I think he's just trying to brazen it out, and failing).

Oh no, he promised!

WildCat · 21st September 2008, 03:00 PM

Bump.

Bobert · 21st September 2008, 04:32 PM

Looking forward to those links!

WildCat · 21st September 2008, 06:18 PM

Bumpity bump badump.

How's it going Turbofan?

Mr.Herbert · 21st September 2008, 06:37 PM

He just posted at the FDR thread..... YOOO HOOOOOOO T-FAN!!!! Where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?????????????????

DavidJames · 21st September 2008, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Turbofan

Yup, I stayed home on a Saturday night and registered to all of the EE forums
to please WC!

I didn't say anything, MACKEY said it and it's quoted. Now he's trying to
squirm out....

Just for the record

jaydeehess · 21st September 2008, 08:45 PM

aahhh, I saw this thread and was hoping.........

I won't hold my breath waiting on TF to find support for his infallible EEPROM contention.

WildCat · 21st September 2008, 09:35 PM

Remember when Turbofan's hero Balsamo posted at the PPrune forum to claim Hanjour couldn't hit the Pentagon and got reamed a new one? It's gonna be deja vu all over again!

T.A.M. · 22nd September 2008, 08:13 AM

bump. I am interested to see all of this "slapdown" TF thinks Mackey will receive...lol

TAM

Bobert · 22nd September 2008, 08:29 AM

Those links to those EE forums would be appreciated Turbofan, thanks!

NickUK · 22nd September 2008, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by WildCat

Remember when Turbofan's hero Balsamo posted at the PPrune forum to claim Hanjour couldn't hit the Pentagon and got reamed a new one? It's gonna be deja vu all over again!

I'm too lazy to Google it WC, but can you link it? Ta

WildCat · 22nd September 2008, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by NickUK

I'm too lazy to Google it WC, but can you link it? Ta

http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/23669...rt-pilots.html

The idiot huckster fraud Rob Balsamo is "AluminumDrvr".

Ah, memories!

uk_dave · 22nd September 2008, 12:09 PM

I want some endorsement of turbofans product, or I aint buying any.

C'mon Turbo, let's see that independant verification of your claims.

T.A.M. · 22nd September 2008, 12:11 PM

Seems the moderator there removed/relocated a lot of the "ass handing" comments, as the 2 page thread now seems pretty boring, and pretty benign, Wildcat.

TAM

WildCat · 22nd September 2008, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

Seems the moderator there removed/relocated a lot of the "ass handing" comments, as the 2 page thread now seems pretty boring, and pretty benign, Wildcat.

TAM

Yeah, I remember it being much longer at the time.

Turbofan, got any links where you are pwning Mackey yet?

jaydeehess · 22nd September 2008, 03:40 PM

That linked thread does include a hint on the second page that Robby had brought up flight 77.

Rob tried valiently to say that if the aircraft was changing it pitch angle that the spot-on-the-glass method would not work but many others pointed out that if the flight surfaces remained as they would be in cruise that there would be no need for a change in pitch and that flying the spot on the window into the target would work just fine to crash into said target.

HyJinX · 22nd September 2008, 04:42 PM

Bump for Turbo.

WildCat · 22nd September 2008, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Turbofan

OMG! OMG! I can't stop laughing. I took a screen capture of your reply
and I'm going to post it to every electronics and networking board on the
planet.

I'll wait for all the replies, and then I'll link you to all the sites so I can prove
how friggin' STUPID that nonsense really is!

First off: If there is a data collision on a network , the packet is resent.

But wait, that's not all...this is a dedicated system and more of logic
controller operation than an open network...so too bad for you again.

Also, the FDR is accepting serial data from ONE source (FDAU). I'd believe
that garbage if you said it happened within the FDAU

Again, the data that was captured and retrieved from the FDR shows
it was received in good form. So those particular cells arlready show
altitude too high!

WOw, I can't wait to send this all over and expose you a third time!

You can't even lie to save your life.

Originally Posted by Turbofan

Oh yeah, this is funny stuff.

Mackey thinks that the FDR had power six seconds after initial impact
to wipe out six seconds of data

Sorry to say, but you get 256 wps...I might buy...na, I wouldn't
buy any of your guesses.

now you're just making stuff up to save face, and it's making
it worse for you.

P.S. it's not a threat, it's promise!

Your theory doesn't even account for the time stamps,
or recovered data that still shows the impact with AA77
was impossible.

Turbofan?

Caustic Logic · 23rd September 2008, 02:21 AM

bump

and my .02

I call this: Turbofan goes AS Turbofan to a few forums, explains his argument with Truthy rhetoric, clues that he's a total clown, rips on Mackey personally, and links to the threads here. The first couple responses will dismiss him as a loon, and refuse to even address the question. Then someone will go to the hassle of explaining why he's wrong. He will say they attacked him for being a truther and lied and know nothing, support the gov't story, either out of fear or because they're loyalists or agents.

To avoid this coming true, TF, I advise go incognito, don't name Mackey as the defendant, just ask the questions simple and accept the answers and post them here. Otherwise, again, it'll be hard to take you serious, or to even remotely consider starting to do so, even on a trial basis.

Reheat · 23rd September 2008, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by WildCat

http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/23669...rt-pilots.html

The idiot huckster fraud Rob Balsamo is "AluminumDrvr".

Ah, memories!

Balsamo's primary problem appears to be his arrogance. He actually has very little experience in real aviation terms, but he pretends to be God's gift to the aviation world.

I've met a few like him, but for the most part they usually don't live very long. A old saying in the aviation world is that there are "old pilots" and there are "bold pilots", but there are no "old bold pilots". His arrogance has NO PLACE in the Commercial Transport World of flying.

Of course, the airline business is really quite safe compared to other types of flying, but if he exhibits the same attitude in the cockpit as we've seen everywhere he's posted, he's a hazard. I can't imagine flying with someone that cocky, unwilling to ask questions and learn, with his level of experience. The jerk doesn't have an ATP Certificate, but belittles it as being a $ 1000 piece of paper.

For those who don't know an ATP can be obtained with 1500 hours of flying time with some other caveats that most have with that many hours of experience. He claims to have around 4000 hours of total time and still doesn't have it. Most folks I know have gotten one just to make themselves more employable. While it's not a major issue until it's actually required for PIC duties in FAR Pt 121 or FAR Pt 135 the fact that he belittles it is very telling regarding his attitude.

Turbofan exhibits precisely the same type of attitude, so it's not surprising that they are cohorts.

jhunter1163 · 23rd September 2008, 07:48 AM

If I knew where these EE forums were, I'd take the liberty of posting the exchange in the FDR thread (from, say, page 61 on) there myself and throwing it open for comment.

WildCat · 23rd September 2008, 03:01 PM

What? Another day without Turbofan pwning Mackey on an EE forum?

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

jaydeehess · 23rd September 2008, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

If I knew where these EE forums were, I'd take the liberty of posting the exchange in the FDR thread (from, say, page 61 on) there myself and throwing it open for comment.

I am sure that I am not the only one looking but I have found nothing yet.

Of course its hard to do a search when you don't know for sure the poster's name, the name of the forum or exactly how the questions will be posed.

T.A.M. · 23rd September 2008, 03:33 PM

What do you expect. At least Rob had the courage to actually post his nonsense on professional sites. Apparently his minions don't even have that.

TAM

jhunter1163 · 23rd September 2008, 03:46 PM

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=258699

Sometimes you just gotta take the bull by the horns.

jaydeehess · 23rd September 2008, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=258699

Sometimes you just gotta take the bull by the horns.

In post 2606 on page 66 of the FDR thread I give a suggestion for the wording of the question. Point the physicsforum group there perhaps.

Specifically, I suggested that Tf ask;

"I have a question about the EEPROM data storage used in flight data recorders. I have been reading about the FDR found in the Pentagon after the crash there on Sept 11/01, and that it seems to be missing the last several seconds of data. That would represent several full frames of data. If the FDR was working properly right up to impact then how can more than just the last word in the last frame be lost? After all, the previous words would have already been recorded and set.

I know that transients can corrupt an EEPROM and obviously the power down procedure was not carried out but how could that explain a loss of up to 6 seconds without completely corrupting everything?"

jhunter1163 · 23rd September 2008, 04:11 PM

OK, will do.

20th September 2008, 04:50 PM	#1
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	Turbofan's Engineering forum links (split from: AA77 FDR Data, Explained) Turbofan, when will you start your thread on the electronics engineering forum which pwns us all? Will you link to it when you do?

20th September 2008, 04:52 PM	#2
Disbelief Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,272	Originally Posted by WildCat Turbofan, when will you start your thread on the electronics engineering forum which pwns us all? Will you link to it when you do? Yes, all of us EETs are on the edge of our seats!!
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20th September 2008, 05:18 PM	#3
Myriad Hyperthetical Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,195	If I don't see a link to Turbofan's electronics forum thread, the most likely conclusion is that he did post such a thread, and doesn't want to tell anyone the results. After all, he wouldn't lie about his intention to post it, not when it's so trivially easy to actually do. Respectfully, Myriad
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20th September 2008, 06:30 PM	#4
TjW Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: up in the air Posts: 9,969	Originally Posted by Myriad <snippage> After all, he wouldn't lie about his intention to post it, not when it's so trivially easy to actually do. Respectfully, Myriad There's a language award, a pith award, even a stundie award. If there was an optimist of the month award, you'd be nominated.
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20th September 2008, 06:52 PM	#5
Myriad Hyperthetical Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,195	Originally Posted by TjW There's a language award, a pith award, even a stundie award. If there was an optimist of the month award, you'd be nominated. How about a sarcasm award? Respectfully, Myriad
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20th September 2008, 07:03 PM	#6
Bobert Government Loyalist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kennesaw GA Posts: 4,146	Originally Posted by WildCat Turbofan, when will you start your thread on the electronics engineering forum which pwns us all? Will you link to it when you do? The funny thing is that he actually thinks that people will support him. Is Turbo like 13 yrs old? Yes I am looking forward to this proof from turbo which i am sure will never arrive.
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20th September 2008, 10:25 PM	#7
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	So Turbofan, have you posted your pwnage of Mackey on that electronic engineering forum yet? Do you have a link?

21st September 2008, 05:18 AM	#9
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	Thanks chillzero, I can't wait to see his thread in the EE forum! Don't forget to link to this one in the OP Turbofan, so everyone knows exactly the context of what you're talking about!
	Last edited by WildCat; 21st September 2008 at 05:19 AM.

21st September 2008, 05:20 AM	#10
e^n Muse Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 810	Could someone fill me in on the background to this? I've been spending most of my time posting at ATS so I must have missed the comedy.
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21st September 2008, 05:26 AM	#11
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,554	http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=66047&page=60 From the last post on this page forward. Turbofan takes on R. Mackey and promises to post R. Mackey's "errors" on various electronics forums. chuckles

21st September 2008, 05:29 AM	#12
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Can someone quote or repost the links when he does (some of us have him [Turbofan] on ignore, but would still like to enjoy watching him have his ass handed to him). TAM

21st September 2008, 05:38 AM	#13
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,554	Will do, TAM, if it ever happens (which I wouldn't bet on-I think he's just trying to brazen it out, and failing).

21st September 2008, 10:20 AM	#14
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 Will do, TAM, if it ever happens (which I wouldn't bet on-I think he's just trying to brazen it out, and failing). Oh no, he promised!

21st September 2008, 03:00 PM	#15
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	Bump.

21st September 2008, 04:32 PM	#16
Bobert Government Loyalist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kennesaw GA Posts: 4,146	Looking forward to those links!
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21st September 2008, 06:18 PM	#17
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	Bumpity bump badump. How's it going Turbofan?

21st September 2008, 06:37 PM	#18
Mr.Herbert Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,357	He just posted at the FDR thread..... YOOO HOOOOOOO T-FAN!!!! Where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?????????????????

21st September 2008, 07:09 PM	#19
DavidJames Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 7,083	Originally Posted by Turbofan Yup, I stayed home on a Saturday night and registered to all of the EE forums to please WC! I didn't say anything, MACKEY said it and it's quoted. Now he's trying to squirm out.... Just for the record

21st September 2008, 08:45 PM	#20
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,798	aahhh, I saw this thread and was hoping......... I won't hold my breath waiting on TF to find support for his infallible EEPROM contention.

21st September 2008, 09:35 PM	#21
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	Remember when Turbofan's hero Balsamo posted at the PPrune forum to claim Hanjour couldn't hit the Pentagon and got reamed a new one? It's gonna be deja vu all over again!

22nd September 2008, 08:13 AM	#22
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	bump. I am interested to see all of this "slapdown" TF thinks Mackey will receive...lol TAM

22nd September 2008, 08:29 AM	#23
Bobert Government Loyalist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kennesaw GA Posts: 4,146	Those links to those EE forums would be appreciated Turbofan, thanks!
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22nd September 2008, 09:20 AM	#24
NickUK Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 498	Originally Posted by WildCat Remember when Turbofan's hero Balsamo posted at the PPrune forum to claim Hanjour couldn't hit the Pentagon and got reamed a new one? It's gonna be deja vu all over again! I'm too lazy to Google it WC, but can you link it? Ta
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22nd September 2008, 10:00 AM	#25
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	Originally Posted by NickUK I'm too lazy to Google it WC, but can you link it? Ta http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/23669...rt-pilots.html The idiot huckster fraud Rob Balsamo is "AluminumDrvr". Ah, memories!

22nd September 2008, 12:09 PM	#26
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,866	I want some endorsement of turbofans product, or I aint buying any. C'mon Turbo, let's see that independant verification of your claims.
uk_dave Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,866

22nd September 2008, 12:11 PM	#27
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	Seems the moderator there removed/relocated a lot of the "ass handing" comments, as the 2 page thread now seems pretty boring, and pretty benign, Wildcat. TAM

22nd September 2008, 12:18 PM	#28
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	Originally Posted by T.A.M. Seems the moderator there removed/relocated a lot of the "ass handing" comments, as the 2 page thread now seems pretty boring, and pretty benign, Wildcat. TAM Yeah, I remember it being much longer at the time. Turbofan, got any links where you are pwning Mackey yet?

22nd September 2008, 03:40 PM	#29
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,798	That linked thread does include a hint on the second page that Robby had brought up flight 77. Rob tried valiently to say that if the aircraft was changing it pitch angle that the spot-on-the-glass method would not work but many others pointed out that if the flight surfaces remained as they would be in cruise that there would be no need for a change in pitch and that flying the spot on the window into the target would work just fine to crash into said target.

22nd September 2008, 04:42 PM	#30
HyJinX Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Beyond the Sun Posts: 1,666	Bump for Turbo.
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22nd September 2008, 09:10 PM	#31
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	Originally Posted by Turbofan OMG! OMG! I can't stop laughing. I took a screen capture of your reply and I'm going to post it to every electronics and networking board on the planet. I'll wait for all the replies, and then I'll link you to all the sites so I can prove how friggin' STUPID that nonsense really is! First off: If there is a data collision on a network , the packet is resent. But wait, that's not all...this is a dedicated system and more of logic controller operation than an open network...so too bad for you again. Also, the FDR is accepting serial data from ONE source (FDAU). I'd believe that garbage if you said it happened within the FDAU Again, the data that was captured and retrieved from the FDR shows it was received in good form. So those particular cells arlready show altitude too high! WOw, I can't wait to send this all over and expose you a third time! You can't even lie to save your life. Originally Posted by Turbofan Oh yeah, this is funny stuff. Mackey thinks that the FDR had power six seconds after initial impact to wipe out six seconds of data Sorry to say, but you get 256 wps...I might buy...na, I wouldn't buy any of your guesses. now you're just making stuff up to save face, and it's making it worse for you. P.S. it's not a threat, it's promise! Your theory doesn't even account for the time stamps, or recovered data that still shows the impact with AA77 was impossible. Turbofan?

23rd September 2008, 02:21 AM	#32
Caustic Logic Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,979	bump and my .02 I call this: Turbofan goes AS Turbofan to a few forums, explains his argument with Truthy rhetoric, clues that he's a total clown, rips on Mackey personally, and links to the threads here. The first couple responses will dismiss him as a loon, and refuse to even address the question. Then someone will go to the hassle of explaining why he's wrong. He will say they attacked him for being a truther and lied and know nothing, support the gov't story, either out of fear or because they're loyalists or agents. To avoid this coming true, TF, I advise go incognito, don't name Mackey as the defendant, just ask the questions simple and accept the answers and post them here. Otherwise, again, it'll be hard to take you serious, or to even remotely consider starting to do so, even on a trial basis.

23rd September 2008, 03:30 AM	#33
Reheat Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In Space Posts: 2,030	Originally Posted by WildCat http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/23669...rt-pilots.html The idiot huckster fraud Rob Balsamo is "AluminumDrvr". Ah, memories! Balsamo's primary problem appears to be his arrogance. He actually has very little experience in real aviation terms, but he pretends to be God's gift to the aviation world. I've met a few like him, but for the most part they usually don't live very long. A old saying in the aviation world is that there are "old pilots" and there are "bold pilots", but there are no "old bold pilots". His arrogance has NO PLACE in the Commercial Transport World of flying. Of course, the airline business is really quite safe compared to other types of flying, but if he exhibits the same attitude in the cockpit as we've seen everywhere he's posted, he's a hazard. I can't imagine flying with someone that cocky, unwilling to ask questions and learn, with his level of experience. The jerk doesn't have an ATP Certificate, but belittles it as being a $ 1000 piece of paper. For those who don't know an ATP can be obtained with 1500 hours of flying time with some other caveats that most have with that many hours of experience. He claims to have around 4000 hours of total time and still doesn't have it. Most folks I know have gotten one just to make themselves more employable. While it's not a major issue until it's actually required for PIC duties in FAR Pt 121 or FAR Pt 135 the fact that he belittles it is very telling regarding his attitude. Turbofan exhibits precisely the same type of attitude, so it's not surprising that they are cohorts.
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23rd September 2008, 07:48 AM	#34
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,554	If I knew where these EE forums were, I'd take the liberty of posting the exchange in the FDR thread (from, say, page 61 on) there myself and throwing it open for comment.

23rd September 2008, 03:01 PM	#35
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 48,978	What? Another day without Turbofan pwning Mackey on an EE forum? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

23rd September 2008, 03:07 PM	#36
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,798	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 If I knew where these EE forums were, I'd take the liberty of posting the exchange in the FDR thread (from, say, page 61 on) there myself and throwing it open for comment. I am sure that I am not the only one looking but I have found nothing yet. Of course its hard to do a search when you don't know for sure the poster's name, the name of the forum or exactly how the questions will be posed.