Any Good Theistic Pro-Choice Arguments?

Beerina · 24th September 2008, 09:30 AM

Are there any good religious arguments for pro-choice or pro-abortion?

I'll start us off.

1. God kills children for mild offenses, like making fun of a bald guy's head.

2. God kills completely innocent children just to piss off or threaten their parents.

3. Killing babies before they're born ensures they're going to Heaven. Or at least Limbo, if it even exists anymore. By letting them be born and grow to adulthood, they might go to Hell if they don't jump through God's hoops in the proper manner. Indeed, the Bible suggests this is almost certainly the case for everyone except a very few, percentage-wise.

KingMerv00 · 24th September 2008, 10:07 AM

The easiest serious answer? God either does not believe or does not care that a fetus is alive.

joobz · 24th September 2008, 10:28 AM

1.) God exists.
2.) God told me X is true.
3.) God told me to write down X is true.
4.) God told me to write down "everything written on this piece of paper is true"
5.) According to the paper X is true.
6.) Paper is known to be true because it says it is true.

Therefore X is true.

X= Pro-choice.

GodMark2 · 24th September 2008, 03:06 PM

Let's see if I can remember enough of my early years in the church to do this:

God's greatest gift to us humans is free will. He gave this to us, even knowing that many would choose the wrong path. While aborting a future child of god may be the wrong choice, god's gift to the mother of the ability to make that choice must be respected.

Silentknight · 24th September 2008, 05:55 PM

There's Numbers 5:11-31.

If a man suspects his wife of being unfaithful, he is to report her to a priest, who will make her drink bitter water made from holy water with tabernacle floor scrapings in it. If she were guilty, this would make her thigh rot and her belly swell, or in other words, remove her ability to become pregnant. If she were already carrying a child, such as the result of her infidelity, this cursed potion would surely induce an abortion, or at least that's what its purpose would be.

So the bible describes the formula for a holy magical abortion potion, and the circumstances of how it should be used.

paximperium · 24th September 2008, 05:58 PM

"Jesus loves the little children, kill them so Jesus can meet them sooner."

24th September 2008, 09:30 AM	#1
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Any Good Theistic Pro-Choice Arguments? Are there any good religious arguments for pro-choice or pro-abortion? I'll start us off. 1. God kills children for mild offenses, like making fun of a bald guy's head. 2. God kills completely innocent children just to piss off or threaten their parents. 3. Killing babies before they're born ensures they're going to Heaven. Or at least Limbo, if it even exists anymore. By letting them be born and grow to adulthood, they might go to Hell if they don't jump through God's hoops in the proper manner. Indeed, the Bible suggests this is almost certainly the case for everyone except a very few, percentage-wise.
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joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,499	1.) God exists. 2.) God told me X is true. 3.) God told me to write down X is true. 4.) God told me to write down "everything written on this piece of paper is true" 5.) According to the paper X is true. 6.) Paper is known to be true because it says it is true. Therefore X is true. X= Pro-choice.
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24th September 2008, 03:06 PM	#4
GodMark2 Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 1,043	Let's see if I can remember enough of my early years in the church to do this: God's greatest gift to us humans is free will. He gave this to us, even knowing that many would choose the wrong path. While aborting a future child of god may be the wrong choice, god's gift to the mother of the ability to make that choice must be respected.
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24th September 2008, 05:55 PM	#5
Silentknight Your rice is served Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: A straight narrow river Posts: 1,748	There's Numbers 5:11-31. If a man suspects his wife of being unfaithful, he is to report her to a priest, who will make her drink bitter water made from holy water with tabernacle floor scrapings in it. If she were guilty, this would make her thigh rot and her belly swell, or in other words, remove her ability to become pregnant. If she were already carrying a child, such as the result of her infidelity, this cursed potion would surely induce an abortion, or at least that's what its purpose would be. So the bible describes the formula for a holy magical abortion potion, and the circumstances of how it should be used.
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24th September 2008, 05:58 PM	#6
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24th September 2008, 10:07 AM	#2
KingMerv00 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA...USA Posts: 14,482	The easiest serious answer? God either does not believe or does not care that a fetus is alive.