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Dr Adequate · 12th October 2008, 11:10 PM

At last, Truthers name some of the perps!

You may find some of these names ... familiar.

* Dylan Avery (link) (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Kevin Barrett (link)
* Jason Bermas (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Christopher Bollyn (link) (link) (link)
* James Fetzer (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Richard Gage (link)
* Rosalee "Webfairy" Grable (link) (link) (link) (link)
* David Ray Griffin (link) (link)
* Nico Haupt (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Jim Hoffman (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Gerald Holmgren (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Eric Hufschmidt (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Phil Jayhan (link) (link) (link)
* Alex Jones (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Steven Jones (link) (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Theirry Meyssan (link) (link)
* Jeff Rense (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Morgan Reynolds (link) (link) (link)
* William Rodriguez (link)
* Corey Rowe (link) (link) (link)
* Rick Seigel (link) (link)
* Sofia Shafquat (link) (link)
* Daryl Bradford Smith (link) (link) (link) (link)
* Webster Tarpley (link) (link) (link)
* Judy Wood (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) (link)

Now we know who's part of this murderous plot, what action should we take?

JoeyDonuts · 12th October 2008, 11:31 PM

Send them a lovely fruitcake. And a shrubbery. Not too expensive.

Hokulele · 12th October 2008, 11:35 PM

There once were two cats of Kilkenny . . .

Dr Adequate · 12th October 2008, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Hokulele

There once were two cats of Kilkenny . . .

It was particularly amusing to watch the Bollyn-Smith-Hufschmidt axis tear itself apart as each realized that both of the others were Secret Joo Agents.

And to think they started out as the Only True Truthers:

By the end of 2006, it became obvious that the "truth seekers" had separated into two distinct groups. The Zionist agents are completely avoiding Christopher Bollyn, Eric Hufschmid, and Daryl Bradford Smith.

They justify the avoidance of us by claiming we are "anti-Semites" or "Holocaust Deniers", but the real reason they avoid us is because we are exposing Zionism. They don't want people to hear what we have to say.

[...]

Now compare that to what comes from Alex Jones, Ted Gunderson, Anthony Hilder, Mark Lane, Mark Weber, Curt Maynard, Webster Tarpley, the antiwar groups, the veterans groups, the Institute for Historical Review, Don Harkins of The Idaho Observer, and all other investigators and truth seekers.

The three of us (Bollyn, Hufschmid, and Smith) are the newcomers. Yet in the span of a few years, we have produced more important material that all of the other people put together. And all of those other investigators try to ignore us.

There are not many ways to explain this. Either the other people are incredibly stupid, or they are Zionist agents.

Dr Adequate · 12th October 2008, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by JoeyDonuts

Send them a lovely fruitcake. And a shrubbery.

A shrubbery?

You must be a Bush-lover.

JoeyDonuts · 13th October 2008, 12:41 AM

As part of the Vast Rightwing Neo-Con Illuminati Skull and Bones KFC Directorate To Fabricate Evidence of A Large-Scale Terrorist Attack (or VRNCISnBKFCDtFEoALSTA,) I was presented, as we all were, with both a tasteful wooden plaque commemorating our efforts and a small miniature indoor ficus.

Working for the nWo has its perks, I'll tell ya - not the least of which is the nice timeshares in Boca Raton.

Unsecured Coins · 13th October 2008, 04:29 AM

i didn't make the list? kee-rist what is this world coming to?

JoeyDonuts · 13th October 2008, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Unsecured Coins

i didn't make the list? kee-rist what is this world coming to?

Did you make out your membership dues to Galaxy Commander David Icke this month?

kookbreaker · 13th October 2008, 05:52 AM

You can tell when a movement or Revolution is failing, be it a violent uprising or a political organization: They turn on themselves and attack parts of themselves.

Why? Because they desperately need a victory. Any victory. Attacking the thing you are actually rebelling against has proved futile so you attack what you know you can defeat.

JoeyDonuts · 13th October 2008, 05:54 AM

Well, you know what they say about revolutionaries.

They have no idea what they want.
They can only agree on what they don't.

bonavada · 13th October 2008, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by JoeyDonuts

Send them a lovely fruitcake. And a shrubbery. Not too expensive.

Quote:

First he must find another shrubbery and when he hast found the shrubbery, place it beside the other shrubbery, but a bit higher with a nice path running down the centre. A path! A path! Then, cut down the biggest tree in the forest with a kipper.

Knights Who Say Ni

BV

Dr Adequate · 13th October 2008, 07:32 AM

Some quotations:

''If 9/11 is ever exposed, we must investigate all of the 9/11 Truth Seekers. Almost all of them seem to be working for the criminal network.'' - Darryl Bradford Smith, Truther

''All “leaders” in the “911truth” movement should be required to take the lie detector test.'' - Rick Seigel, Truther

''A truth movement filled with disinformation artists and FBI-funded infiltrators'' - Greg Szymanski, Truther

''99% of the 9-11 truth seekers are worthless.'' - Eric Huffschmidt, Truther

''Is it possible the “truth movement” has been run by the 9/11 perpetrators since day one?'' - C B Brooklyn, Truther

''9/11 Truth is a cesspit ... There is not a shadow of a doubt that 9/11 “Truth” was planned simultaneously with 9/11 itself. That is why you have so many conflicting stories, points of view, arguments and discussions, etc. The Trolls were pre-ordained and planned. So were the major WebSites (e.g. 911Truth.org). It is a known fact that any grouping of five or more will be infiltrated.'' - Veronic Chapman, Truther

I think I shall Stundie the last one. "Any grouping of five or more"?

TexasJack · 13th October 2008, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

Some quotations:

''If 9/11 is ever exposed, we must investigate all of the 9/11 Truth Seekers. Almost all of them seem to be working for the criminal network.'' - Darryl Bradford Smith, Truther

''All “leaders” in the “911truth” movement should be required to take the lie detector test.'' - Rick Seigel, Truther

''A truth movement filled with disinformation artists and FBI-funded infiltrators'' - Greg Szymanski, Truther

''99% of the 9-11 truth seekers are worthless.'' - Eric Huffschmidt, Truther

''Is it possible the “truth movement” has been run by the 9/11 perpetrators since day one?'' - C B Brooklyn, Truther

''9/11 Truth is a cesspit ... There is not a shadow of a doubt that 9/11 “Truth” was planned simultaneously with 9/11 itself. That is why you have so many conflicting stories, points of view, arguments and discussions, etc. The Trolls were pre-ordained and planned. So were the major WebSites (e.g. 911Truth.org). It is a known fact that any grouping of five or more will be infiltrated.'' - Veronic Chapman, Truther

I think I shall Stundie the last one. "Any grouping of five or more"?

Priceless.

Jonnyclueless · 13th October 2008, 07:53 AM

Don't forget to add Mike Carter to that list: "Jews, jews jews jews".

tomwaits · 13th October 2008, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

There are not many ways to explain this. Either the other people are incredibly stupid, or they are Zionist agents.

Hmm...tough call.

Pinch · 13th October 2008, 08:22 AM

Captain Bob, Craig and Aldo won't be too happy about being left off this list! Their "any PR is good PR" approach to life just took a hit!

Horatius · 13th October 2008, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

''99% of the 9-11 truth seekers are worthless.'' - Eric Huffschmidt, Truther

That's one statement we can mostly agree with.

Drudgewire · 13th October 2008, 09:03 AM

Quote:

''All “leaders” in the “911truth” movement should be required to take the lie detector test.'' - Rick Seigel, Truther

Pretending for a second lie detectors work, that would be hilarious.

MarkyX · 13th October 2008, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

That's one statement we can mostly agree with.

Mostly? There is a 1% margin error in Eric's quote.

16.5 · 13th October 2008, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Pinch

Captain Bob, Craig and Aldo won't be too happy about being left off this list! Their "any PR is good PR" approach to life just took a hit!

Arabesque has called them all disinfo, and they have returned the favor.

Reminds me of the Benny Hill version of the French Revolution, with all of the truthers trying to be Robespierre.

Dave Rogers · 13th October 2008, 10:15 AM

More like a Spartacus kind of thing, I think.

"I'm the only real truther!" "No, I'm the only real truther!" "No, I'm the only real truther!"

(I don't think anyone's mentioned the Judean Popular Front yet. Maybe nobody will.)

Dave

pomeroo · 13th October 2008, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

''99% of the 9-11 truth seekers are worthless.'' - Eric Huffschmidt, Truther

This is the single most impressive statement ever made by a conspiracy liar. He is off by only 1%.

Bobert · 13th October 2008, 12:38 PM

LOL

Quote:

Introducing the producers:

Dylan Avery, Corey Rowe, Jason Bermas

-3 pot heads:

everytime I see Jason he as that Deliverance inbred make you squeal like a pig look on his face.
He really should try out for the Howard Stern show.

tomwaits · 13th October 2008, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

More like a Spartacus kind of thing, I think.

"I'm the only real truther!" "No, I'm the only real truther!" "No, I'm the only real truther!"

(I don't think anyone's mentioned the Judean Popular Front yet. Maybe nobody will.)

Dave

You are over a year late...

MIKILLINI · 13th October 2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

''If 9/11 is ever exposed, we must investigate all of the 9/11 Truth Seekers. Almost all of them seem to be working for the criminal network.'' - Darryl Bradford Smith, Truther

I wonder if DBS would investigate himself.

PhantomWolf · 13th October 2008, 07:51 PM

It's amazing that they can spot the fallacies in other people's world but then totally miss it in their own. I mean can anyone name this fallacy?

Quote:

As further evidence of the Hufschmid - Murdoch connection, consider that Hufschmid promotes the dubious "Apollo moon landings were a hoax" conspiracy theory on his websites, and Murdoch's Fox TV network ran a documentary entitled "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?" in February and March of 2001. The plan was to discredit 9/11 skeptics as "crazy conspiracy theorists", establishing the groundwork in the months leading up to the attacks.

JoeyDonuts · 13th October 2008, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Drudgewire

Pretending for a second lie detectors work, that would be hilarious.

Ugh. I am NOT going down that road again.

Dr Adequate · 13th October 2008, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

(I don't think anyone's mentioned the Judean Popular Front yet. Maybe nobody will.)

Here's what 911review.com thinks of 911review.org.

Splitters!

JoeyDonuts · 14th October 2008, 12:06 AM

"You can't be part of 911review.org."

"What?!? Why not?"

"You've gotta really hate the goverment."

Dr Adequate · 14th October 2008, 12:55 AM

I'm working on an article on it, because this is one aspect of the Truth phenomenon that's been insufficiently documented (because debunkers don't object to it, 'cos it's funny).

I have a theory, which seems to be borne out by Truther rhetoric.

Every Truther finds that his own ideas are luminously, beautifully obvious when he looks at the evidence. I think the technical term is idee fixe. You just have to look, and the pattern you get when you join the dots is utterly self-evident. This is why the classic Truther warcry is "do your own research!!!" Because you just have to look.

Hence, you can only be a mere sheeple by not looking at the evidence at all and getting all your information from Fox News. Anyone who looks at the evidence and says that he can't see what the Truther is seeing is a liar, ergo a shill.

Now this applies just as much to the quirks of the Truthers own particular version of the Truth as it does to the Truth in general.

Hence, for example, the line from Bollyn-Smith-Hufschmidt:

There are not many ways to explain this. Either the other people are incredibly stupid, or they are Zionist agents.

In their world, the Sinister Jooish Plot is undeniable to anyone who's looked at the evidence and is not severely retarded. They have shown their fellow Truthers the evidence. They are not retarded (they aren't, lay off the jokes) ergo they are Zionist shills.

Here's Hufschmidt again:

Webster Tarpley denies that Israel plays any role in world corruption. Supposedly, the Bush family, and a few other mysterious people, are behind the world's corruption, and Israel is an innocent victim. Tarpley is too intelligent to not realize that he is lying. He must be a member of some criminal network.

Of course, the same applies to their attitude to debunkers. So, for example, a couple of days ago on these forums:

Those who passionately attempt to protect the criminals actually responsible for this crime, like Mackey, are traitors who should be behind bars. He's far too intelligent to honestly believe the crap he's trying to sell. It's beyond ludicrous!

The CIA has numerous geeks like Mackey, extremely bright folks, who gladly compromise their integrity to serve their masters.

(He means Ryan Mackay, of course.)

The reasoning is simple. Anyone who's not retarded agrees with me. You are not retarded, therefore you agree with me. Therefore, when you say you don't agree with me, you are lying. Ergo, you work for the CIA.

JoeyDonuts · 14th October 2008, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

The reasoning is simple. Anyone who's not retarded agrees with me. You are not retarded, therefore you agree with me. Therefore, when you say you don't agree with me, you are lying. Ergo, you work for the CIA.

I fit ALL of those criteria!

Where's my coffee mug? Where's my company jet? Where's my parking space at the Farm? The level three keycard access to the secret mountain retreat known only as...The Meadows?

I feel so ripped off.

adversity1 · 14th October 2008, 01:23 AM

Dr Adequate would you be open to putting together an illustration of which truther groups hate which? That would sum things up and provide buckets of lols.

JoeyDonuts · 14th October 2008, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by adversity1

Dr Adequate would you be open to putting together an illustration of which truther groups hate which? That would sum things up and provide buckets of lols.

That would probably look like a Jackson Pollock painting.

Dr Adequate · 14th October 2008, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by adversity1

Dr Adequate would you be open to putting together an illustration of which truther groups hate which? That would sum things up and provide buckets of lols.

It would be easier to do a diagram showing who's still on speaking terms with whom.

By now, that's probably down to Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas.

dudalb · 14th October 2008, 12:56 PM

It's a lot like the Ku Klux Klan, with dozens of groups, (most of which have membership in the single digits) claiming to be the only true Klan.

Hokulele · 14th October 2008, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

I'm working on an article on it, because this is one aspect of the Truth phenomenon that's been insufficiently documented (because debunkers don't object to it, 'cos it's funny).

I have a theory, which seems to be borne out by Truther rhetoric.

Every Truther finds that his own ideas are luminously, beautifully obvious when he looks at the evidence. I think the technical term is idee fixe. You just have to look, and the pattern you get when you join the dots is utterly self-evident. This is why the classic Truther warcry is "do your own research!!!" Because you just have to look.

That reminds me of R.Mackey's thread on Irreducible Delusions.

Drudgewire · 14th October 2008, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Hokulele

That reminds me of R.Mackey's thread on Irreducible Delusions.

I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, but in my CT days I didn't sleep a lot. By the third day of being awake a whole bunch of pieces suddenly start fitting together.

Eventually it started sinking in maybe it wasn't because I was so much MORE aware of reality at that point.

Hokulele · 14th October 2008, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Drudgewire

I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, but in my CT days I didn't sleep a lot. By the third day of being awake a whole bunch of pieces suddenly start fitting together.

Eventually it started sinking in maybe it wasn't because I was so much MORE aware of reality at that point.

That sounds like my last trip to Vegas.

twinstead · 14th October 2008, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Hokulele

That sounds like my last trip to Vegas.

Hey. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...

Hokulele · 14th October 2008, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by twinstead

Hey. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...

And the IRS gets their cut either way.

12th October 2008, 11:10 PM	#1
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,897	Disinfo At last, Truthers name some of the perps! You may find some of these names ... familiar. * Dylan Avery (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) * Kevin Barrett (link) * Jason Bermas (link) (link) (link) (link) * Christopher Bollyn (link) (link) (link) * James Fetzer (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) * Richard Gage (link) * Rosalee "Webfairy" Grable (link) (link) (link) (link) * David Ray Griffin (link) (link) * Nico Haupt (link) (link) (link) (link) * Jim Hoffman (link) (link) (link) (link) * Gerald Holmgren (link) (link) (link) (link) * Eric Hufschmidt (link) (link) (link) (link) * Phil Jayhan (link) (link) (link) * Alex Jones (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) * Steven Jones (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) * Theirry Meyssan (link) (link) * Jeff Rense (link) (link) (link) (link) * Morgan Reynolds (link) (link) (link) * William Rodriguez (link) * Corey Rowe (link) (link) (link) * Rick Seigel (link) (link) * Sofia Shafquat (link) (link) * Daryl Bradford Smith (link) (link) (link) (link) * Webster Tarpley (link) (link) (link) * Judy Wood (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) (link) Now we know who's part of this murderous plot, what action should we take?
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12th October 2008, 11:31 PM	#2
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12th October 2008, 11:47 PM	#4
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,897	Originally Posted by Hokulele There once were two cats of Kilkenny . . . It was particularly amusing to watch the Bollyn-Smith-Hufschmidt axis tear itself apart as each realized that both of the others were Secret Joo Agents. And to think they started out as the Only True Truthers: By the end of 2006, it became obvious that the "truth seekers" had separated into two distinct groups. The Zionist agents are completely avoiding Christopher Bollyn, Eric Hufschmid, and Daryl Bradford Smith. They justify the avoidance of us by claiming we are "anti-Semites" or "Holocaust Deniers", but the real reason they avoid us is because we are exposing Zionism. They don't want people to hear what we have to say. [...] Now compare that to what comes from Alex Jones, Ted Gunderson, Anthony Hilder, Mark Lane, Mark Weber, Curt Maynard, Webster Tarpley, the antiwar groups, the veterans groups, the Institute for Historical Review, Don Harkins of The Idaho Observer, and all other investigators and truth seekers. The three of us (Bollyn, Hufschmid, and Smith) are the newcomers. Yet in the span of a few years, we have produced more important material that all of the other people put together. And all of those other investigators try to ignore us. There are not many ways to explain this. Either the other people are incredibly stupid, or they are Zionist agents.

13th October 2008, 12:41 AM	#6
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12th October 2008, 11:49 PM	#5
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,897	Originally Posted by JoeyDonuts Send them a lovely fruitcake. And a shrubbery. A shrubbery? You must be a Bush-lover.

13th October 2008, 04:29 AM	#7
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13th October 2008, 05:43 AM	#8
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13th October 2008, 05:54 AM	#10
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13th October 2008, 07:32 AM	#12
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,897	Some quotations: ''If 9/11 is ever exposed, we must investigate all of the 9/11 Truth Seekers. Almost all of them seem to be working for the criminal network.'' - Darryl Bradford Smith, Truther ''All “leaders” in the “911truth” movement should be required to take the lie detector test.'' - Rick Seigel, Truther ''A truth movement filled with disinformation artists and FBI-funded infiltrators'' - Greg Szymanski, Truther ''99% of the 9-11 truth seekers are worthless.'' - Eric Huffschmidt, Truther ''Is it possible the “truth movement” has been run by the 9/11 perpetrators since day one?'' - C B Brooklyn, Truther ''9/11 Truth is a cesspit ... There is not a shadow of a doubt that 9/11 “Truth” was planned simultaneously with 9/11 itself. That is why you have so many conflicting stories, points of view, arguments and discussions, etc. The Trolls were pre-ordained and planned. So were the major WebSites (e.g. 911Truth.org). It is a known fact that any grouping of five or more will be infiltrated.'' - Veronic Chapman, Truther I think I shall Stundie the last one. "Any grouping of five or more"?

13th October 2008, 07:39 AM	#13
TexasJack Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10,881	Originally Posted by Dr Adequate Some quotations: ''If 9/11 is ever exposed, we must investigate all of the 9/11 Truth Seekers. Almost all of them seem to be working for the criminal network.'' - Darryl Bradford Smith, Truther ''All “leaders” in the “911truth” movement should be required to take the lie detector test.'' - Rick Seigel, Truther ''A truth movement filled with disinformation artists and FBI-funded infiltrators'' - Greg Szymanski, Truther ''99% of the 9-11 truth seekers are worthless.'' - Eric Huffschmidt, Truther ''Is it possible the “truth movement” has been run by the 9/11 perpetrators since day one?'' - C B Brooklyn, Truther ''9/11 Truth is a cesspit ... There is not a shadow of a doubt that 9/11 “Truth” was planned simultaneously with 9/11 itself. That is why you have so many conflicting stories, points of view, arguments and discussions, etc. The Trolls were pre-ordained and planned. So were the major WebSites (e.g. 911Truth.org). It is a known fact that any grouping of five or more will be infiltrated.'' - Veronic Chapman, Truther I think I shall Stundie the last one. "Any grouping of five or more"? Priceless.

13th October 2008, 07:53 AM	#14
Jonnyclueless Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,360	Don't forget to add Mike Carter to that list: "Jews, jews jews jews".

13th October 2008, 07:58 AM	#15
tomwaits Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 2,288	Originally Posted by Dr Adequate There are not many ways to explain this. Either the other people are incredibly stupid, or they are Zionist agents. Hmm...tough call.

13th October 2008, 08:22 AM	#16
Pinch Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 287	Captain Bob, Craig and Aldo won't be too happy about being left off this list! Their "any PR is good PR" approach to life just took a hit!
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13th October 2008, 08:37 AM	#17
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,895	Originally Posted by Dr Adequate ''99% of the 9-11 truth seekers are worthless.'' - Eric Huffschmidt, Truther That's one statement we can mostly agree with.
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13th October 2008, 09:03 AM	#18
Drudgewire Critical Doofus Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 9,434	Quote: ''All “leaders” in the “911truth” movement should be required to take the lie detector test.'' - Rick Seigel, Truther Pretending for a second lie detectors work, that would be hilarious.
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13th October 2008, 09:29 AM	#19
MarkyX Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,158	Originally Posted by Horatius That's one statement we can mostly agree with. Mostly? There is a 1% margin error in Eric's quote.
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13th October 2008, 10:08 AM	#20
16.5 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,739	Originally Posted by Pinch Captain Bob, Craig and Aldo won't be too happy about being left off this list! Their "any PR is good PR" approach to life just took a hit! Arabesque has called them all disinfo, and they have returned the favor. Reminds me of the Benny Hill version of the French Revolution, with all of the truthers trying to be Robespierre.
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13th October 2008, 10:15 AM	#21
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In a world lit only by fire. Posts: 17,894	More like a Spartacus kind of thing, I think. "I'm the only real truther!" "No, I'm the only real truther!" "No, I'm the only real truther!" (I don't think anyone's mentioned the Judean Popular Front yet. Maybe nobody will.) Dave
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13th October 2008, 12:26 PM	#22
pomeroo Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In a Little Cafe Just the Other Side of the Border Posts: 7,091	Originally Posted by Dr Adequate ''99% of the 9-11 truth seekers are worthless.'' - Eric Huffschmidt, Truther This is the single most impressive statement ever made by a conspiracy liar. He is off by only 1%.

13th October 2008, 12:38 PM	#23
Bobert Government Loyalist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kennesaw GA Posts: 4,146	LOL Quote: Introducing the producers: Dylan Avery, Corey Rowe, Jason Bermas -3 pot heads: everytime I see Jason he as that Deliverance inbred make you squeal like a pig look on his face. He really should try out for the Howard Stern show.
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13th October 2008, 01:15 PM	#24
tomwaits Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 2,288	Originally Posted by Dave Rogers More like a Spartacus kind of thing, I think. "I'm the only real truther!" "No, I'm the only real truther!" "No, I'm the only real truther!" (I don't think anyone's mentioned the Judean Popular Front yet. Maybe nobody will.) Dave You are over a year late...

13th October 2008, 06:49 PM	#25
MIKILLINI Incromulent Logic Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Illini State Posts: 2,881	Quote: ''If 9/11 is ever exposed, we must investigate all of the 9/11 Truth Seekers. Almost all of them seem to be working for the criminal network.'' - Darryl Bradford Smith, Truther I wonder if DBS would investigate himself.
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13th October 2008, 07:51 PM	#26
PhantomWolf Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lost Deimos Moon Base Posts: 9,952	It's amazing that they can spot the fallacies in other people's world but then totally miss it in their own. I mean can anyone name this fallacy? Quote: As further evidence of the Hufschmid - Murdoch connection, consider that Hufschmid promotes the dubious "Apollo moon landings were a hoax" conspiracy theory on his websites, and Murdoch's Fox TV network ran a documentary entitled "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?" in February and March of 2001. The plan was to discredit 9/11 skeptics as "crazy conspiracy theorists", establishing the groundwork in the months leading up to the attacks.
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13th October 2008, 09:47 PM	#27
JoeyDonuts Frequencies Not Known To Normals Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 10,636	Originally Posted by Drudgewire Pretending for a second lie detectors work, that would be hilarious. Ugh. I am NOT going down that road again.
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13th October 2008, 11:54 PM	#28
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,897	Originally Posted by Dave Rogers (I don't think anyone's mentioned the Judean Popular Front yet. Maybe nobody will.) Here's what 911review.com thinks of 911review.org. Splitters!

14th October 2008, 12:06 AM	#29
JoeyDonuts Frequencies Not Known To Normals Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 10,636	"You can't be part of 911review.org." "What?!? Why not?" "You've gotta really hate the goverment."
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14th October 2008, 12:55 AM	#30
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,897	I'm working on an article on it, because this is one aspect of the Truth phenomenon that's been insufficiently documented (because debunkers don't object to it, 'cos it's funny). I have a theory, which seems to be borne out by Truther rhetoric. Every Truther finds that his own ideas are luminously, beautifully obvious when he looks at the evidence. I think the technical term is idee fixe. You just have to look, and the pattern you get when you join the dots is utterly self-evident. This is why the classic Truther warcry is "do your own research!!!" Because you just have to look. Hence, you can only be a mere sheeple by not looking at the evidence at all and getting all your information from Fox News. Anyone who looks at the evidence and says that he can't see what the Truther is seeing is a liar, ergo a shill. Now this applies just as much to the quirks of the Truthers own particular version of the Truth as it does to the Truth in general. Hence, for example, the line from Bollyn-Smith-Hufschmidt: There are not many ways to explain this. Either the other people are incredibly stupid, or they are Zionist agents. In their world, the Sinister Jooish Plot is undeniable to anyone who's looked at the evidence and is not severely retarded. They have shown their fellow Truthers the evidence. They are not retarded (they aren't, lay off the jokes) ergo they are Zionist shills. Here's Hufschmidt again: Webster Tarpley denies that Israel plays any role in world corruption. Supposedly, the Bush family, and a few other mysterious people, are behind the world's corruption, and Israel is an innocent victim. Tarpley is too intelligent to not realize that he is lying. He must be a member of some criminal network. Of course, the same applies to their attitude to debunkers. So, for example, a couple of days ago on these forums: Those who passionately attempt to protect the criminals actually responsible for this crime, like Mackey, are traitors who should be behind bars. He's far too intelligent to honestly believe the crap he's trying to sell. It's beyond ludicrous! The CIA has numerous geeks like Mackey, extremely bright folks, who gladly compromise their integrity to serve their masters. (He means Ryan Mackay, of course.) The reasoning is simple. Anyone who's not retarded agrees with me. You are not retarded, therefore you agree with me. Therefore, when you say you don't agree with me, you are lying. Ergo, you work for the CIA.

14th October 2008, 01:05 AM	#31
JoeyDonuts Frequencies Not Known To Normals Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 10,636	Originally Posted by Dr Adequate The reasoning is simple. Anyone who's not retarded agrees with me. You are not retarded, therefore you agree with me. Therefore, when you say you don't agree with me, you are lying. Ergo, you work for the CIA. I fit ALL of those criteria! Where's my coffee mug? Where's my company jet? Where's my parking space at the Farm? The level three keycard access to the secret mountain retreat known only as...The Meadows? I feel so ripped off.
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14th October 2008, 01:23 AM	#32
adversity1 Scholar Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 83	Dr Adequate would you be open to putting together an illustration of which truther groups hate which? That would sum things up and provide buckets of lols.
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14th October 2008, 01:25 AM	#33
JoeyDonuts Frequencies Not Known To Normals Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 10,636	Originally Posted by adversity1 Dr Adequate would you be open to putting together an illustration of which truther groups hate which? That would sum things up and provide buckets of lols. That would probably look like a Jackson Pollock painting.
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14th October 2008, 03:57 AM	#34
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,897	Originally Posted by adversity1 Dr Adequate would you be open to putting together an illustration of which truther groups hate which? That would sum things up and provide buckets of lols. It would be easier to do a diagram showing who's still on speaking terms with whom. By now, that's probably down to Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas.

14th October 2008, 12:56 PM	#35
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,843	It's a lot like the Ku Klux Klan, with dozens of groups, (most of which have membership in the single digits) claiming to be the only true Klan.