Pro Athletes , Politicians & the News

h.g.Whiz · 18th October 2008, 04:30 PM

Why do pro athletes statistics and records have their own section in the news but politicians do not.

I bet if there were half as many fanatics that kept up with the stats of our elected leaders and representatives as there are sports fanatics that keep up with the stats of pro athletes then there would be less corrupt and incompetent behavior from the individuals we elect

dudalb · 18th October 2008, 06:03 PM

Because it sells newspapers.
You will be amazed how many people turn to the Sports section first, except when a REALLY big news even has happened.
I am guilty of that on occasion my self.

h.g.Whiz · 18th October 2008, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Because it sells newspapers.
You will be amazed how many people turn to the Sports section first, except when a REALLY big news even has happened.
I am guilty of that on occasion my self.

Revenue generated newspaper sales are insignificant compared to revenue generated from advertising .

Redtail · 18th October 2008, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by h.g.Whiz

Revenue generated newspaper sales are insignificant compared to revenue generated from advertising .

True, but if only a few people are reading a paper how much can said paper charge for advertising?

WildCat · 18th October 2008, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by h.g.Whiz

Why do pro athletes statistics and records have their own section in the news

Show me one newspaper that publishes the statistics of pro athletes.

Top 10 current leaders in each category doesn't count.

h.g.Whiz · 18th October 2008, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by WildCat

Show me one newspaper that publishes the statistics of pro athletes.

Top 10 current leaders in each category doesn't count.

Dallas Morning News publishes stats on every player of Texas Rangers, Dallas Cowboy, Dallas Mavericks, Dallas Stars, and the stats of their opponets every game day.

WildCat · 19th October 2008, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by h.g.Whiz

Dallas Morning News publishes stats on every player of Texas Rangers, Dallas Cowboy, Dallas Mavericks, Dallas Stars, and the stats of their opponets every game day.

Which is quite an abbreviated list, hardly encompassing all pro athletes.

Doesn't the DMS also publish how Texas politicians voted on the big issues? Our local papers do.

Snide · 19th October 2008, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by WildCat

Which is quite an abbreviated list, hardly encompassing all pro athletes.

So the bar is now raised to ALL pro athletes?

Checking the latest box scores, both Twin Cities papers show me how the Rays and Red Sox players are batting in the ALCS, not just the most recent game. The hockey box scores showed me not only who scored, but how many goals that gives him/them for the season, plus I get the goaltenders' records. During the baseball season, every Sunday they would publish well above and beyond only the top ten statistical leaders. So there you go, unless, again, you are raising the bar.

WildCat · 19th October 2008, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Snide

So the bar is now raised to ALL pro athletes?

Checking the latest box scores, both Twin Cities papers show me how the Rays and Red Sox players are batting in the ALCS, not just the most recent game. The hockey box scores showed me not only who scored, but how many goals that gives him/them for the season, plus I get the goaltenders' records. During the baseball season, every Sunday they would publish well above and beyond only the top ten statistical leaders. So there you go, unless, again, you are raising the bar.

So your paper publishes the stats of the local teams. Probably takes up 10% of a page in the sports section.

Don't they also publish how your politicians vote on key bills? Don't they cover politics every single day?

And if that's not enough for you, you can always peruse the web site of Congress where you will find the roll call for every bill ever.

And hey, if you guys think you can publish a viable newspaper that features nothing but politics in excruciating detail and make it profitable go for it. Nothing's stopping you.

And I disagree with the OP. Everyone in Chicago knows their politicians are corrupt and yet they keep voting for them anyway, because they think the other guy won't be any better. It's the devil you know.

eta: and at any rate ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL? See you after the games.

Snide · 19th October 2008, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by WildCat

So your paper publishes the stats of the local teams.

And other teams and their players, as I have indicated.

Quote:

Probably takes up 10% of a page in the sports section.

Don't they also publish how your politicians vote on key bills? Don't they cover politics every single day?

And if that's not enough for you, you can always peruse the web site of Congress where you will find the roll call for every bill ever.

And hey, if you guys think you can publish a viable newspaper that features nothing but politics in excruciating detail and make it profitable go for it. Nothing's stopping you.

And I disagree with the OP. Everyone in Chicago knows their politicians are corrupt and yet they keep voting for them anyway, because they think the other guy won't be any better. It's the devil you know.

eta: and at any rate ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL? See you after the games.

I guess I'm not sure what your point is, and maybe I interpreted the complaint in the OP differently from you. I wouldn't mind if other parts of the newspaper, such as politics (if you can call that a "section") borrowed a bit from the style and frequency of the information displayed in the sports pages.

h.g.Whiz · 19th October 2008, 12:40 PM

" I wouldn't mind if other parts of the newspaper, such as politics (if you can call that a "section") borrowed a bit from the style and frequency of the information displayed in the sports pages."

Dido

leftysergeant · 24th October 2008, 04:24 AM

The average schmoe wouldn't know what to do with the stats on politicians, any more than I would know what I was supposed to gain from reading the sports page. (It usually goes straight to the recycle bin so that I don't have it sitting in the way while I read the news and comics.)

Probably, most of the rest of you would understand the sports section as well as I undersatand the politics. I am exceptional in this lot in not making heads or tails of sports,but also among the population at large who are scratching their heads all WTH?

18th October 2008, 04:30 PM	#1
h.g.Whiz Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Egoville Posts: 3,083	Pro Athletes , Politicians & the News Why do pro athletes statistics and records have their own section in the news but politicians do not. I bet if there were half as many fanatics that kept up with the stats of our elected leaders and representatives as there are sports fanatics that keep up with the stats of pro athletes then there would be less corrupt and incompetent behavior from the individuals we elect
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18th October 2008, 06:22 PM	#3
h.g.Whiz Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Egoville Posts: 3,083	Originally Posted by dudalb Because it sells newspapers. You will be amazed how many people turn to the Sports section first, except when a REALLY big news even has happened. I am guilty of that on occasion my self. Revenue generated newspaper sales are insignificant compared to revenue generated from advertising .
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18th October 2008, 06:26 PM	#4
Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,304	Originally Posted by h.g.Whiz Revenue generated newspaper sales are insignificant compared to revenue generated from advertising . True, but if only a few people are reading a paper how much can said paper charge for advertising?
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18th October 2008, 09:04 PM	#6
h.g.Whiz Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Egoville Posts: 3,083	Originally Posted by WildCat Show me one newspaper that publishes the statistics of pro athletes. Top 10 current leaders in each category doesn't count. Dallas Morning News publishes stats on every player of Texas Rangers, Dallas Cowboy, Dallas Mavericks, Dallas Stars, and the stats of their opponets every game day.
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19th October 2008, 09:32 AM	#9
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,019	Originally Posted by Snide So the bar is now raised to ALL pro athletes? Checking the latest box scores, both Twin Cities papers show me how the Rays and Red Sox players are batting in the ALCS, not just the most recent game. The hockey box scores showed me not only who scored, but how many goals that gives him/them for the season, plus I get the goaltenders' records. During the baseball season, every Sunday they would publish well above and beyond only the top ten statistical leaders. So there you go, unless, again, you are raising the bar. So your paper publishes the stats of the local teams. Probably takes up 10% of a page in the sports section. Don't they also publish how your politicians vote on key bills? Don't they cover politics every single day? And if that's not enough for you, you can always peruse the web site of Congress where you will find the roll call for every bill ever. And hey, if you guys think you can publish a viable newspaper that features nothing but politics in excruciating detail and make it profitable go for it. Nothing's stopping you. And I disagree with the OP. Everyone in Chicago knows their politicians are corrupt and yet they keep voting for them anyway, because they think the other guy won't be any better. It's the devil you know. eta: and at any rate ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL? See you after the games.
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18th October 2008, 06:03 PM	#2
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,814	Because it sells newspapers. You will be amazed how many people turn to the Sports section first, except when a REALLY big news even has happened. I am guilty of that on occasion my self.

18th October 2008, 08:20 PM	#5
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,019	Originally Posted by h.g.Whiz Why do pro athletes statistics and records have their own section in the news Show me one newspaper that publishes the statistics of pro athletes. Top 10 current leaders in each category doesn't count.

19th October 2008, 07:16 AM	#7
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,019	Originally Posted by h.g.Whiz Dallas Morning News publishes stats on every player of Texas Rangers, Dallas Cowboy, Dallas Mavericks, Dallas Stars, and the stats of their opponets every game day. Which is quite an abbreviated list, hardly encompassing all pro athletes. Doesn't the DMS also publish how Texas politicians voted on the big issues? Our local papers do.

19th October 2008, 09:13 AM	#8
Snide Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 3,187	Originally Posted by WildCat Which is quite an abbreviated list, hardly encompassing all pro athletes. So the bar is now raised to ALL pro athletes? Checking the latest box scores, both Twin Cities papers show me how the Rays and Red Sox players are batting in the ALCS, not just the most recent game. The hockey box scores showed me not only who scored, but how many goals that gives him/them for the season, plus I get the goaltenders' records. During the baseball season, every Sunday they would publish well above and beyond only the top ten statistical leaders. So there you go, unless, again, you are raising the bar.

19th October 2008, 10:03 AM	#10
Snide Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 3,187	Originally Posted by WildCat So your paper publishes the stats of the local teams. And other teams and their players, as I have indicated. Quote: Probably takes up 10% of a page in the sports section. Don't they also publish how your politicians vote on key bills? Don't they cover politics every single day? And if that's not enough for you, you can always peruse the web site of Congress where you will find the roll call for every bill ever. And hey, if you guys think you can publish a viable newspaper that features nothing but politics in excruciating detail and make it profitable go for it. Nothing's stopping you. And I disagree with the OP. Everyone in Chicago knows their politicians are corrupt and yet they keep voting for them anyway, because they think the other guy won't be any better. It's the devil you know. eta: and at any rate ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL? See you after the games. I guess I'm not sure what your point is, and maybe I interpreted the complaint in the OP differently from you. I wouldn't mind if other parts of the newspaper, such as politics (if you can call that a "section") borrowed a bit from the style and frequency of the information displayed in the sports pages.

19th October 2008, 12:40 PM	#11
h.g.Whiz Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Egoville Posts: 3,083	" I wouldn't mind if other parts of the newspaper, such as politics (if you can call that a "section") borrowed a bit from the style and frequency of the information displayed in the sports pages." Dido
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24th October 2008, 04:24 AM	#12
leftysergeant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spanaway WA Posts: 18,613	The average schmoe wouldn't know what to do with the stats on politicians, any more than I would know what I was supposed to gain from reading the sports page. (It usually goes straight to the recycle bin so that I don't have it sitting in the way while I read the news and comics.) Probably, most of the rest of you would understand the sports section as well as I undersatand the politics. I am exceptional in this lot in not making heads or tails of sports,but also among the population at large who are scratching their heads all WTH?