This is where David Wilson plays with himself

[RichardR]

Anyone who has been following “debates” with David Wilson knows that he does not like anyone disagreeing with him. His hatred of this seems almost pathological. If you look here you will see why.

This is David’s private discussion board. Private, in the sense that he only engages in his cut and paste debates with himself and his sock puppet David Uganda. Look at the long list of threads, most with one or two replies from just himself and his sock. You can see he’s not used to disagreements. And I think it really can be said that this is where he plays with himself. Because he play-debates with himself, and it is mental masturbation for him. Sad.

It’s a little different here, David. You see, we have more than two members on this board. And they’re allowed to disagree with you. So perhaps it’s time for you to run along back to your “Thinking and Ecology forum” where Mummy won’t let the big boys hurt you.

Btw everyone, have a look and see the next topics David is planning to bring here. For starters, I think he is in favor of naturopaths and against vaccinations. He should get on great with bigfig.

Edited to add: David has since restricted viewing of his "discussion" board. You have to "register" now to even view the cut-and-paste debates.

[Blue Monk]

Who's David Wilson?

What member name does he post under here?

[RichardR]

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Originally posted by Blue Monk
Who's David Wilson?

What member name does he post under here?

He uses the name David Wilson.

Have a look here for a sample of his earth shattering genius.

[Blue Monk]

Hehe, well this guy is going to be entertaining.

I checked out his ‘debates’ (once I got past all of the pop-up ads).

There was once place (I should have copy and pasted it) where he claims that the smallpox vaccine has killed more than it saved! What kind of delusional crap is that?

There is no smallpox today. That seems to be a detail overlooked by this mighty brain, hehe.

[RichardR]

Quote:

Originally posted by Blue Monk
Hehe, well this guy is going to be entertaining.

I checked out his ‘debates’ (once I got past all of the pop-up ads).

There was once place (I should have copy and pasted it) where he claims that the smallpox vaccine has killed more than it saved! What kind of delusional crap is that?

There is no smallpox today. That seems to be a detail overlooked by this mighty brain, hehe.

I can't believe you haven't been exposed to David's cut and paste skills. Where have you been these last six weeks?

For further entertainment, I recommend you visit David's first thread here. Notice how sensitive he is to criticism (real and imaginary).

Also, scroll down a bit and you'll see this jem from him:

"As i'm a Taxi-Driver, i have the opportunity to speak to approx 4000 people a year, once i have acquired relative certainty, i'll share my findings with them..."

I guess we've all had the misfortune to meet taxi drivers like that.

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

What a long, strange forum that is.

~~ Paul

[American]

I'm strongly considering reporting him, but I don't know to whom. He basically made death threats against the president. I'm pretty sure that's breaking the law, even in Oz.

[David Wilson]

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Originally posted by American
I'm strongly considering reporting him, but I don't know to whom. He basically made death threats against the president. I'm pretty sure that's breaking the law, even in Oz.

Where did i make death threats against the President you IDIOT?

Report whatever you want to whoever you want you stupid cow.

[David Wilson]

Description of Straw Man
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.

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In short, they were an example of the best way to treat employees.{Shell}

Shell didn’t make it that way, although perhaps they could have done better than they did. But doing business in that part of the world is not easy.

Shell’s policies are some of the best in the area.
. But let’s all bag on Shell. They’re the big bad evil corporation, right?

By Nigerians. Soldiers, most likely. But let’s blame Shell.

The morally bankrupt and intellectually bereft RichardR desparately tries to "get out" of being an apologist for Corporations who have been accused of involvment in killing and torture by calling on the strawman defense.

Yet a quick glance through his responses indicate that he does consider devastating people's lands as a necessity of doing business in a tough environment.

He dismisses 18 pages of information by Professor Chossodouskvy as irrational, and considers the investigative work of Project Underground as "anti corporate propaganda".
A protest by 300 000/500 000 people is dismissed as "an appeal to popularity"..LOLOLOL.

He also seems to think that David Suzuki is a multi-billionaire who can afford to risk publicly smearing a Billion Dollar Corp and not be subject to legal recourse, oh and Suzuki is just an appeal to authority.
He tries to displace blame from Shell{an identifiable corp} and place it onto the NNPC{an obscure corp}.

RichardR displays the typical traits of secular morality, {which is servicing the technological imperative}, whereby, torture and murder should be denounced but accepted as necessary due to the resistance of people who are suffering from the effects of implementing the technological imperative.

RichardR will probabaly add another "appeal to this or that "defense, accuse me of trolling, threaten to ignore me and report to moderator.

David Wilson.


EDIT

He's now gone completely insane, around the bend, i can't see him recovering.

[kookbreaker]

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson

He's now gone completely insane, around the bend, i can't see him recovering.

Oh, do shut up little child.

[ImpyTimpy]

I don't get it... Dave seems to be against just about anything. Hell, even vaccinations are evil according to some ramblings on his message board..

Say Dave, have you been immunised as a child? If not, may I suggest getting a rusty knife and playing in some soil with it until you cut yourself? I'm sure exercise and diet will do wonders when you contract tetnus.

[kookbreaker]

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Originally posted by ImpyTimpy
I don't get it... Dave seems to be against just about anything. Hell, even vaccinations are evil according to some ramblings on his message board..

He throws around the word "Biosociopath" a lot to cover the fact that he is himsself, a misanthrope.

[David Wilson]

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Originally posted by kookbreaker

He throws around the word "Biosociopath" a lot to cover the fact that he is himsself, a misanthrope. [/b]

On the contrary nut, i dislike rude people, and don't waste much time with them.

Had you the decency, you could have determined that by examining my posts here.

[David Wilson]

Quote:

Originally posted by ImpyTimpy
[Say Dave, have you been immunised as a child? If not, may I suggest getting a rusty knife and playing in some soil with it until you cut yourself? I'm sure exercise and diet will do wonders when you contract tetnus. [/b]

The key to health is maximizing cellular efficiency, the healthier the cells, the more resistant they are.

Cellular efficiency depends on a number of factors, but obvioulsy if circulation is pumping quality amounts of oxygen and nutrients, then the cells will thrive.
We are biologically adapted to most efficiently metabolise the chemicals of raw foods, particularly fruit and vege. When we consume and ingest other chemicals, we compromise our metabolic efficiency.

[kookbreaker]

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson


On the contrary nut, i dislike rude people, and don't waste much time with them.

Had you the decency, you could have determined that by examining my posts here.

I have examined your posts and found them to be nothing but screed and whining. Your comment does not stand.

[kookbreaker]

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson


The key to health is maximizing cellular efficiency, the healthier the cells, the more resistant they are.

Cellular efficiency depends on a number of factors, but obvioulsy if circulation is pumping quality amounts of oxygen and nutrients, then the cells will thrive.
We are biologically adapted to most efficiently metabolise the chemicals of raw foods, particularly fruit and vege. When we consume and ingest other chemicals, we compromise our metabolic efficiency.

Psuedo-scientific claptrap.

Somday I'm gonna get one of these "Raw Veggies" guys in the same room with a hardcore Atkins diet promoter and watch them have a big ol' slap fight.

[David Wilson]

Quote:

Originally posted by kookbreaker


Psuedo-scientific claptrap.

You ignorant twit, give science and kookbreaking away, you're too dumb to know what's what.

[kookbreaker]

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson


You ignorant twit, give science and kookbreaking away, you're too dumb to know what's what.

Give it a rest screed-boy. You're the last person to call others dumb.

[RichardR]

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson


On the contrary nut, i dislike rude people, and don't waste much time with them.

Had you the decency, you could have determined that by examining my posts here.

If you look here you can see who is rude. Another one of David Wilson's boards, that was shut down by the ISP:

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system message
Banned and Locked Down!

(cosmotheism) has been locked down in accordance with ezboard's Terms of Use

Reason: Repeated violations of privacy and abusive posting.

He's a very naughty boy.

[ImpyTimpy]

First could you provide some scientific papers to show me that raw foods are metabolised the best and therefore provide maximum vitamins / proteins / carbohydrate mixtures? But before you do that could you address my actual point?

You mention vaccines are bad and the key to health is healthy living. I ask you, how do you propose the body gets rid of the tetnus infection and it's associated toxic side effects just through healthy living? I'm sure you KNOW that the toxic substances released by the tetnus bacteria work directly on the nervous system. I'm further sure you know that the body does not automatically know how to respond to these toxins or the infection itself. I'm sure you understand that vaccination provides the body with a blue print on how to defeat these things, therefore when exposure occurrs the body automatically initiates the appropriate immune response.

So how exactly is not vaccinating someone against tetnus and simply proving them with healthy living going to teach the body about tetnus toxins? Please, take your time.. You don't want to dig yourself into a deeper hole now do you?

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson


The key to health is maximizing cellular efficiency, the healthier the cells, the more resistant they are.

Cellular efficiency depends on a number of factors, but obvioulsy if circulation is pumping quality amounts of oxygen and nutrients, then the cells will thrive.
We are biologically adapted to most efficiently metabolise the chemicals of raw foods, particularly fruit and vege. When we consume and ingest other chemicals, we compromise our metabolic efficiency.

[David Wilson]

Quote:

Originally posted by ImpyTimpy
You mention vaccines are bad and the key to health is healthy living. I ask you, how do you propose the body gets rid of the tetnus infection and it's associated toxic side effects just through healthy living?

Dummy, the health status of the individual and his favourable biochemical indivduality are the major factors here, we already share symbiosis with many bacteria, and tetnus more commonly effects those over the age of 50, an age of declining health and immune strength. Any wound containing foreign material or devitalized tissue must be considered tetnus prone.
Many tetnus prone wounds can be converted to non-prone wounds by proper cleansing and debrigement.

3 refs for the above info, which you'll get in a month or so.

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So how exactly is not vaccinating someone against tetnus and simply proving them with healthy living going to teach the body about tetnus toxins? Please, take your time.. You don't want to dig yourself into a deeper hole now do you?

I will explain this in tremendous detail at a later date, but not to an obnoxious imbecile like you.

[ImpyTimpy]

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson

Dummy, the health status of the individual and his favourable biochemical indivduality are the major factors here, we already share symbiosis with many bacteria, and tetnus more commonly effects those over the age of 50, an age of declining health and immune strength.

I would like to see you back that tetnus effects people over 50 more commonly then other age groups Dave...

Also the symbiotic relationship with SOME bacteria has NO BEARING on tetnus however. Straw argument.

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Any wound containing foreign material or devitalized tissue must be considered tetnus prone.
Many tetnus prone wounds can be converted to non-prone wounds by proper cleansing and debrigement.

Wow.. Please quote the reference to a medical journal which supports your utter garbage. I guess doctors shouldn't give antibiotics to halt infections from deep wounds, rather put the patients on a strict diet of raw food...

Well Dave, please back your utter garbage up...

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3 refs for the above info, which you'll get in a month or so.

Oh wait... You can't back it up... Carry on making things up. Australia needs more free-thinkers like you Dave. It makes the rest of us look a lot more clever.

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I will explain this in tremendous detail at a later date, but not to an obnoxious imbecile like you.

Paul Bethke defence?

[American]

Merry Christmas.

[kookbreaker]

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson

3 refs for the above info, which you'll get in a month or so.

I will explain this in tremendous detail at a later date, but not to an obnoxious imbecile like you.

Translation: My bluff has been called, so I'll stall and instul and hope they forget.

DWilson, you are a kook and a coward.

[RichardR]

Quote:

Originally posted by kookbreaker


Translation: My bluff has been called, so I'll stall and instul and hope they forget.

DWilson, you are a kook and a coward.

But not rude. On the contrary, he dislikes rude people, and doesn't waste much time with them.

[Blue Monk]

Quote:

Originally posted by RichardR
But not rude. On the contrary, he dislikes rude people, and doesn't waste much time with them.

That's why I'm not posting, hehe.

But this is a very funny thread and I am enjoying it immensely.

Did you know that the US military now treats sucking chest wounds with a steady diet of cabbage and black-eyed peas?

Honest!

[Soapy Sam]

Hey American,

I'm pretty sure you were joking about the death threat to the president thing, but in case you weren't- the Secret Service is required to take all such threats very seriously. Some would say they take this to a ludicrous extent, but who knows? They are obliged to compile a file on anyone known to have made such a threat. If possible, they show up to visit every year or so. It's very tiresome for everyone involved, especially the agents who have better things to do with their time- like fighting computer crime and counterfeiters.

Don't report anyone to any authority on these grounds, unless you are genuinely concerned he is serious. Don't even think of doing so as a joke. Jokes like that have a habit of getting passed up the line till it gets to someone who responds. It really ain't worth the hassle it could cause.

[ImpyTimpy]

It's called the "Bethke Defence" or "Blind you next week Defence". It has been used by kooks throughout the history of human kind

Quote:

Originally posted by kookbreaker


Translation: My bluff has been called, so I'll stall and instul and hope they forget.

DWilson, you are a kook and a coward.

[David Wilson]

Quote:

Originally posted by RichardR
But not rude. On the contrary, he dislikes rude people, and doesn't waste much time with them. :

RICHARDR, I'VE EXPOSED YOU AS CLUELESS, AND YOU REACT BY SEARCHING CYBERSPACE IN A FAILED ATTEMPT TO SMEAR ME. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS PROVING HOW DESPARATE YOU ARE TO HAVE THIS POST IGNORED, AS THIS POST PROVES YOU AS BOTH STUPID AND MORALLY IRRELEVANT. BOTH YOU AND YOUR BOYFRIEND XGROPER HAVE SUFFERED AT MY HANDS, AS I TEACH YOU HOW TO THINK. HOW DO YOU REPAY ME, WITH A SMEAR CAMPAIGN

Description of Straw Man
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.

Quote:

In short, they were an example of the best way to treat employees.{Shell}

Shell didn’t make it that way, although perhaps they could have done better than they did. But doing business in that part of the world is not easy.

Shell’s policies are some of the best in the area.
. But let’s all bag on Shell. They’re the big bad evil corporation, right?

By Nigerians. Soldiers, most likely. But let’s blame Shell.

The morally bankrupt and intellectually bereft RichardR desparately tries to "get out" of being an apologist for Corporations who have been accused of involvment in killing and torture by calling on the strawman defense.

Yet a quick glance through his responses indicate that he does consider devastating people's lands as a necessity of doing business in a tough environment.

He dismisses 18 pages of information by Professor Chossodouskvy as irrational, and considers the investigative work of Project Underground as "anti corporate propaganda".
A protest by 300 000/500 000 people is dismissed as "an appeal to popularity"..LOLOLOL.

He also seems to think that David Suzuki is a multi-billionaire who can afford to risk publicly smearing a Billion Dollar Corp and not be subject to legal recourse, oh and Suzuki is just an appeal to authority.
He tries to displace blame from Shell{an identifiable corp} and place it onto the NNPC{an obscure corp}.

RichardR displays the typical traits of secular morality, {which is servicing the technological imperative}, whereby, torture and murder should be denounced but accepted as necessary due to the resistance of people who are suffering from the effects of implementing the technological imperative.

RichardR will probabaly add another "appeal to this or that "defense, accuse me of trolling, threaten to ignore me and report to moderator.

[David Wilson]

Quote:

Originally posted by American
Merry Christmas.

HURRY UP AND REPORT ME YOU STUPID COW...LOLOLOL

[David Wilson]

Quote:

Originally posted by ImpyTimpy

Quote:

Any wound containing foreign material or devitalized tissue must be considered tetnus prone.
Many tetnus prone wounds can be converted to non-prone wounds by proper cleansing and debrigement.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Wow.. Please quote the reference to a medical journal which supports your utter garbage. I guess doctors shouldn't give antibiotics to halt infections from deep wounds, rather put the patients on a strict diet of raw food...

Well Dave, please back your utter garbage up...

One reference for this idiot...P.A.Skudder and J.R McCarrol, "Current Status of Tetnus Control,"..JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION 188{1964}:625-627; cited by Randall Neustaedter, The Immunization Decision{Berkley, CA, North Atlantic Books,1990}, page 36.


I WILL GIVE YOU THE REST WHEN I'M READY YOU IMBECILE.

[RichardR]

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson



RICHARDR, I'VE EXPOSED YOU AS CLUELESS, AND YOU REACT BY SEARCHING CYBERSPACE IN A FAILED ATTEMPT TO SMEAR ME. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS PROVING HOW DESPARATE YOU ARE TO HAVE THIS POST IGNORED, AS THIS POST PROVES YOU AS BOTH STUPID AND MORALLY IRRELEVANT. BOTH YOU AND YOUR BOYFRIEND XGROPER HAVE SUFFERED AT MY HANDS, AS I TEACH YOU HOW TO THINK. HOW DO YOU REPAY ME, WITH A SMEAR CAMPAIGN

(snip)

RichardR will probabaly add another "appeal to this or that "defense, accuse me of trolling, threaten to ignore me and report to moderator.

[ImpyTimpy]

Visit here:
http://www.cdc.gov/health/default.htm

And scroll down to tetanus. They give a very nice, easy to read description of Tetanus. Just in case it's still to hard for you to read, they are CLEARLY stating cleaning the wound is NOT enough.

Your vast amount of proof seems revolve around a few books written by pseudo-experts citing select bits from medical journals, so you might wish to try harder to back your kooky claims up.

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson

One reference for this idiot...P.A.Skudder and J.R McCarrol, "Current Status of Tetnus Control,"..JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION 188{1964}:625-627; cited by Randall Neustaedter, The Immunization Decision{Berkley, CA, North Atlantic Books,1990}, page 36.


I WILL GIVE YOU THE REST WHEN I'M READY YOU IMBECILE.

[xouper]

Quote:

David Wilson: RICHARDR, I'VE EXPOSED YOU AS CLUELESS, AND YOU REACT BY SEARCHING CYBERSPACE IN A FAILED ATTEMPT TO SMEAR ME. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS PROVING HOW DESPARATE YOU ARE TO HAVE THIS POST IGNORED, AS THIS POST PROVES YOU AS BOTH STUPID AND MORALLY IRRELEVANT. BOTH YOU AND YOUR BOYFRIEND XGROPER HAVE SUFFERED AT MY HANDS, AS I TEACH YOU HOW TO THINK. HOW DO YOU REPAY ME, WITH A SMEAR CAMPAIGN

RichardR:

As you know, I have Mr. Wilson on ignore, for obvious reasons, which you again confirm here by quoting him. Clearly he needs a nap, before he blows a gasket.

[ImpyTimpy]

He's blown a gasket a long time ago methinks.

Quote:

Originally posted by xouper
As you know, I have Mr. Wilson on ignore, for obvious reasons, which you again confirm here by quoting him. Clearly he needs a nap, before he blows a gasket.

[David Wilson]

Quote:

Originally posted by ImpyTimpy

Your vast amount of proof seems revolve around a few books written by pseudo-experts citing select bits from medical journals, so you might wish to try harder to back your kooky claims up.

Impy you wimpy moron, where are you from Sydney?, you arrogant prick.

I have plenty of info, including from the Cumulated Medicus Index, but i'll be posting it when i want, not when you want you impatient fool.

Go and exchange cyber with XGROPER and RR{both are sexually active with each other}.

[David Wilson]

Quote:

Originally posted by xouper
As you know, I have Mr. Wilson on ignore, for obvious reasons, which you again confirm here by quoting him. Clearly he needs a nap, before he blows a gasket.

Then stop making threads about me you nut, i'm not interested in you sexually, do you understand, NO means NO, stop stalking me.

[PixyMisa]

Quote:

Originally posted by David Wilson
RICHARDR, I'VE EXPOSED YOU AS CLUELESS, AND YOU REACT BY SEARCHING CYBERSPACE IN A FAILED ATTEMPT TO SMEAR ME. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS PROVING HOW DESPARATE YOU ARE TO HAVE THIS POST IGNORED, AS THIS POST PROVES YOU AS BOTH STUPID AND MORALLY IRRELEVANT. BOTH YOU AND YOUR BOYFRIEND XGROPER HAVE SUFFERED AT MY HANDS, AS I TEACH YOU HOW TO THINK. HOW DO YOU REPAY ME, WITH A SMEAR CAMPAIGN

(snip)

RichardR will probabaly add another "appeal to this or that "defense, accuse me of trolling, threaten to ignore me and report to moderator.

Ah yes, the common logical fallacy of Appeal to Capslock.

Damn this is funny.

[Skeptical Greg]

I thought I would bring the thrust of Mr. Wilson's intellect into one, easy to read anthology.

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Where did i make death threats against the President you IDIOT

The morally bankrupt and intellectually bereft RichardR

You ignorant twit, give science and kookbreaking away, you're too dumb to know what's what

Dummy, the health status ........

...but not to an obnoxious imbecile like you

HURRY UP AND REPORT ME YOU STUPID COW

I WILL GIVE YOU THE REST WHEN I'M READY YOU IMBECILE

Impy you wimpy moron, where are you from Sydney?, you arrogant prick

turds of a feather stuck together..HAHAHAHAAH.

GROW UP YOU LOT, YOU CAN HAVE THIS FOOLISH THREAD FOR YOUR INANE AMUSEMENT, I'M NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO 20 MORDANT IMBECILES.

I thought this would add a bit of contrast 12/20/02
" ...What i'm teaching is manners and comprehension "

.....continuing
What you idiots can't seem to fathom is that i'm not desperate for your attention, as much as it might surprise you, i barely give a **** what fools think about me in "real life".

AGAIN IDIOT, i'm against the excesses..

Pissant, i already have more than enough material possessions

You are nothing but a dumb Aussie.

I could be wrong, but i'm not dispensing ANY medical advice idiot, only lifestyle alterations, get it idiot.

I don't give out medical advice idiot

This will be updated from time to time in the interest of accuracy.


Interesting, how this is fullfilling an earlier observation I made:

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I'm trying to picture Robert Dinero driving around in his Hack, talking to people about ' The uneccessary emmision of greenhouse gases", and blowing their asses away if he can't get a commitment from them to stop using hair dryers and eating beans.

It's much easier to picture now, Mohawk haircut and all..