Zawahiri confused about how to inspire recruitment

Undesired Walrus · 19th November 2008, 06:33 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7737710.stm

Quote:

The second-in-command of Islamic militant network al-Qaeda has hit out at US President-elect Barack Obama.

In a message purportedly from Ayman al-Zawahiri, the al-Qaeda deputy called Mr Obama a "house negro"

Gagglegnash · 19th November 2008, 07:03 AM

Hi

HA!

Shows what HE knows!

Obama was in the Senate, not the House!

The Central Scrutinizer · 19th November 2008, 07:10 AM

Shouldn't he have called him "house African-American"?

Racist!

mrbaracuda · 19th November 2008, 07:13 AM

If I am not mistaken a lot of prominent leaders and officials in the Middle East basically called him a ******.

Darth Rotor · 19th November 2008, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7737710.stm

Walrus, I don't think the recruiting campaign included a lot of Americans of African descent, so this turn of phrase hardly harms his recruiting effort.

On the other hand, it sure doesn't make him look too politcally savvy, unless the insult was intentional.

DR

tomwaits · 19th November 2008, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

Walrus, I don't think the recruiting campaign included a lot of Americans of African descent, so this turn of phrase hardly harms his recruiting effort.

On the other hand, it sure doesn't make him look too politcally savvy, unless the insult was intentional.

DR

I don't know how Africans generally feel about such racist language, but if you want to get support from fellow muslims, insulting practically an entire continent that has a majority muslim population is probably not a great way to get them on your side.

WildCat · 19th November 2008, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by tomwaits

I don't know how Africans generally feel about such racist language, but if you want to get support from fellow muslims, insulting practically an entire continent that has a majority muslim population is probably not a great way to get them on your side.

Arabs have always felt that blacks were an inferior race, Muslims or not. In fact, a good chunk (probably most) of the blacks captured by Arabs for the slave trade were Muslims. See also Darfur today, which is largely Arab janjaweed pitted against blacks, both groups being Muslims.

AWPrime · 19th November 2008, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by WildCat

Arabs have always felt that blacks were an inferior race, Muslims or not. In fact, a good chunk (probably most) of the blacks captured by Arabs for the slave trade were Muslims. See also Darfur today, which is largely Arab janjaweed pitted against blacks, both groups being Muslims.

So very true. In many places the decedents of African slaves are a separate caste.

tyr_13 · 19th November 2008, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by tomwaits

I don't know how Africans generally feel about such racist language, but if you want to get support from fellow muslims, insulting practically an entire continent that has a majority muslim population is probably not a great way to get them on your side.

He's just trying to shore up his base and appeal more to them, just like the Republicans did in the last election. Look how well it worked out for them. Wait...

*DISCLAIMER* I am NOT calling the Republican part terrorists or racists, and I am not calling Zawahiri a Republican.

PhantomWolf · 19th November 2008, 05:12 PM

Apparently he was emulating Malcom X who called blacks that worked inside the system "Negros" meaning that they were still slaves to the whiteman.

Darth Rotor · 19th November 2008, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

\ I am not calling Zawahiri a Republican.

Good thing too, we do try to be civil around here, eh?

DR

19th November 2008, 06:33 AM	#1
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19th November 2008, 07:03 AM	#2
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19th November 2008, 07:10 AM	#3
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19th November 2008, 03:01 PM	#5
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,257	Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7737710.stm Walrus, I don't think the recruiting campaign included a lot of Americans of African descent, so this turn of phrase hardly harms his recruiting effort. On the other hand, it sure doesn't make him look too politcally savvy, unless the insult was intentional. DR
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19th November 2008, 04:37 PM	#8
AWPrime Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,929	Originally Posted by WildCat Arabs have always felt that blacks were an inferior race, Muslims or not. In fact, a good chunk (probably most) of the blacks captured by Arabs for the slave trade were Muslims. See also Darfur today, which is largely Arab janjaweed pitted against blacks, both groups being Muslims. So very true. In many places the decedents of African slaves are a separate caste.
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19th November 2008, 07:13 AM	#4
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	If I am not mistaken a lot of prominent leaders and officials in the Middle East basically called him a ******.

19th November 2008, 03:54 PM	#6
tomwaits Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 2,288	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor Walrus, I don't think the recruiting campaign included a lot of Americans of African descent, so this turn of phrase hardly harms his recruiting effort. On the other hand, it sure doesn't make him look too politcally savvy, unless the insult was intentional. DR I don't know how Africans generally feel about such racist language, but if you want to get support from fellow muslims, insulting practically an entire continent that has a majority muslim population is probably not a great way to get them on your side.

19th November 2008, 04:30 PM	#7
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,051	Originally Posted by tomwaits I don't know how Africans generally feel about such racist language, but if you want to get support from fellow muslims, insulting practically an entire continent that has a majority muslim population is probably not a great way to get them on your side. Arabs have always felt that blacks were an inferior race, Muslims or not. In fact, a good chunk (probably most) of the blacks captured by Arabs for the slave trade were Muslims. See also Darfur today, which is largely Arab janjaweed pitted against blacks, both groups being Muslims.

19th November 2008, 04:38 PM	#9
tyr_13 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Falconer, NY Posts: 9,662	Originally Posted by tomwaits I don't know how Africans generally feel about such racist language, but if you want to get support from fellow muslims, insulting practically an entire continent that has a majority muslim population is probably not a great way to get them on your side. He's just trying to shore up his base and appeal more to them, just like the Republicans did in the last election. Look how well it worked out for them. Wait... DISCLAIMER I am NOT calling the Republican part terrorists or racists, and I am not calling Zawahiri a Republican.
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19th November 2008, 05:12 PM	#10
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19th November 2008, 09:25 PM	#11
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,257	Originally Posted by tyr_13 \ I am not calling Zawahiri a Republican. Good thing too, we do try to be civil around here, eh? DR
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