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interwaff · 1st December 2008, 01:26 PM

http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html

I hate how liars tarnish people with real incredible stories, such as Dr. Dan Burisch who is a real person.

The USA attacked Iraq because they were building a looking glass, which is a modified version of a stargate that provides information of probable futures. Saddam could not be trusted with such technology.

If you don't believe it, you are not stupid - just ignorant.

Paul · 1st December 2008, 01:33 PM

Sorry, could you make that a little more confused please?

interwaff · 1st December 2008, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Paul

Sorry, could you make that a little more confused please?

My bad.... The video explains everything.

Get the facts!

biomorph · 1st December 2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by interwaff

If you don't believe it, you are not stupid - just ignorant.

I don't believe it, and I'll stay not stupid, and relish the ignorance..........

Paul · 1st December 2008, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by interwaff

My bad.... The video explains everything.

Get the facts!

Ah, I see, you want me to believe some science fiction conspiracy nonsense from a man whose work is supposedly so secret and important that he can talk about it on the internet and post cryptic announcements through third parties. Is that about the size of it?

sanguine · 1st December 2008, 03:05 PM

From the "Our Goals" section of the site:

"Another one of our interviews is with Duncan O’Finioan, a less well-known figure but one whose story is hugely important if true, as we believe it is, at least in its principal claims. (And if he has some false recall as part of a mind-controlled implanted false reality, that in itself proves the point!)"

Note the standard trick of arranging the story such that any contradicting evidence can be cited as support.

interwaff · 2nd December 2008, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by Paul

Ah, I see, you want me to believe some science fiction conspiracy nonsense from a man whose work is supposedly so secret and important that he can talk about it on the internet and post cryptic announcements through third parties. Is that about the size of it?

"We have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom, and America will always be faithful to that cause." - President George W. Bush

You are NOT stupid for not connecting the dots. Just ignorant.

Cuddles · 2nd December 2008, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Paul

Ah, I see, you want me to believe some science fiction conspiracy nonsense from a man whose work is supposedly so secret and important that he can talk about it on the internet and post cryptic announcements through third parties. Is that about the size of it?

I think that was a big "yes".

Twiler · 2nd December 2008, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by interwaff

"We have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom, and America will always be faithful to that cause." - President George W. Bush

You are NOT stupid for not connecting the dots. Just ignorant.

I've found the truth: http://www.timecube.com/

The Central Scrutinizer · 2nd December 2008, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by interwaff

http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html

I hate how liars tarnish people with real incredible stories, such as Dr. Dan Burisch who is a real person.

The USA attacked Iraq because they were building a looking glass, which is a modified version of a stargate that provides information of probable futures. Saddam could not be trusted with such technology.

If you don't believe it, you are not stupid - just ignorant.

I believe it! This is true!

The same article was in the free newspaper you threw on my lawn last week.

Paul · 2nd December 2008, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by interwaff

"We have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom, and America will always be faithful to that cause." - President George W. Bush

Well, if you want to imply that dubya believes in our alien overlords, it must be true.

Quote:

You are NOT stupid for not connecting the dots. Just ignorant.

While your puppy-like insistence is certainly cute, it does not advance your cause in any way.

TobiasTheViking · 2nd December 2008, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by interwaff

http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html

I hate how liars tarnish people with real incredible stories, such as Dr. Dan Burisch who is a real person.

The USA attacked Iraq because they were building a looking glass, which is a modified version of a stargate that provides information of probable futures. Saddam could not be trusted with such technology.

If you don't believe it, you are not stupid - just ignorant.

I'm pretty sure that there are quite a few episodes of Stargate about this...

sthomson · 2nd December 2008, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by TobiasTheViking

I'm pretty sure that there are quite a few episodes of Stargate about this...

Of course there are! It's all a plot to convince the public that these "looking glasses" don't exist. From this thread, it appears to be working very well

sanguine · 2nd December 2008, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by interwaff

"We have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom, and America will always be faithful to that cause." - President George W. Bush

You need a better authority if you're going to pull the whole "appeal to authority" fallacy.

Incidentally, why do conspiracy wonks think there are world-spanning conspiracies that nonetheless are run by people who are dumb enough to talk about it in public speeches, and who feel compelled to leave clues on money and in renaissance paintings?

Seems silly. If I had to run a conspiracy, there'd be, like, three people who knew. Maybe.

(As for the quote above, surely applying a little bit of Occam's Razor suggests that Bush, as an avowed and active Christian, just might be talking about God when he refers to "beyond the stars," and not our approaching alien overlords?)

Edges · 2nd December 2008, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by sanguine

Incidentally, why do conspiracy wonks think there are world-spanning conspiracies that nonetheless are run by people who are dumb enough to talk about it in public speeches, and who feel compelled to leave clues on money and in renaissance paintings?

But don't you see? That's all part of the conspiracy! They want to lull us into a false sense of security so that we ignore all the obvious signs of their presence! In fact, the conspiracy wonks may actually be part of the conspiracy in an effort to make it seem to crazy to be true! /tinfoil hat mode

Ouch.

Ladewig · 2nd December 2008, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by interwaff

http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html

I hate how liars tarnish people with real incredible stories, such as Dr. Dan Burisch who is a real person.

The USA attacked Iraq because they were building a looking glass, which is a modified version of a stargate that provides information of probable futures. Saddam could not be trusted with such technology.

If you don't believe it, you are not stupid - just ignorant.

Are you saying you believe that stuff? Really?

dudalb · 2nd December 2008, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Are you saying you believe that stuff? Really?

I think this is an example of how true your signature quote is.

dudalb · 2nd December 2008, 03:58 PM

Hey, if you want to accept as real a device that would pretty much violate every law of physics as we know it, you have to do better then that.

interwaff · 6th December 2008, 02:23 AM

This was a 2002 interview: Dan speaks

Issues:

Dan is asked about his knowledge of papilloma virus, and flown by jet and then helicopter to the complex (where he is again asked the question - somebody "dropped the ball" he suggests). Usually if you need an expert on something, you search for people who published on the topic and then go to them. Even if one's resume isn't public, credentials generally are. In many cases a person's boss knows better than the actual person whether he or she is an expert in something, even though the boss is a dunce on that same topic. Maybe Dan was the only person available with the right security clearance, and having a general background in microbiology was "good enough". A more likely approach to treating alien herpes is to issue a job posting, screen applications, and have the person report on their own for interviews and hiring. Rushing a hand-picked candidate of undetermined qualifications out on a jet and a chopper is.... overdramatic.

He describes the alien container as coming out of an iris-shaped door in the floor. Again- dramatic! Just put the damn thing in a room somewhere. Lock the door, and put up a "no trespassing" sign. Guard the door. Building and maintaining an iris/elevator apparatus is absurd.

He claims he performed gene therapy to treat the alien. This was supposedly in the 1990s. Yet even today, gene therapy is almost completely experimental.

The complex uses a monorail system for transport. I believe even the Pentagon uses golf carts, and most people walk. Mines and tunnels often use rail, but now this seems like a lot of people involved. Silencing that many workers for this long would be hard. Also a fair number would have instant and severe psychological problems at realizing their proximity to a live alien. That's no small detail - some people would really freak out and be emotionally scarred. So where are they?!

Claim: these aliens are actually future humans. The major reason for alien abductions is that they have accumulated genetic problems over thousands of years, and are using our genes to help correct them. Hmm... Thousands of years pass, they gain the power to time-travel, and yet they can't fix their own medical issues without us. So only their physics advance; genetics, medicine, computational biology... none of that makes the aliens healthier, thousands of years onward. They need *us* to get better.

All of these secret projects have ended. J-Rod... sent home. Majestic-12... adjourned. The looking glasses and stargates... all disassembled and stored away. (So don't bother looking for them!)

Men-in-black. Funny they never hang around very long, although he says they can barely walk! Even when Dan and his woman were almost justified in shooting one (both being ex-cops), it just didn't happen. Luckily that wasn't necessary. Convenient too!

A) We negotiate treaties with aliens that are renewed every 9 years.
or
B) "Hi, we're aliens. You will give us what we want NOW, you will get NOTHING in return, and you can all pray to your various Gods that we don't kill you for absolutely no reason whatsoever."

I'm not too concerned with why Dan is telling these stories. What's established about him is enough, plausibly, to be a part of some disinformation project, psy-ops campaign, whatever. There is no shortage of motives for government lies.

The "how" part should be interesting to this forum. Each of Dan's stories were not likely told off the top of his very bald head, nor memorized from script. They were probably acted out by role-playing. It took some setting up- with staging, props, and character actors... all pretty much as Dan described. This allows one to establish the elaborate details and small personal insights necessary to seem credible... to sound "not rehearsed" as one retells the role he or she played in the act.

That is how it is done. The "why" may have something to do with his vapid personal plea, essentially- trust in globalization, trust the good old Masons, let's all get along....

Paul · 6th December 2008, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by interwaff

This was a 2002 interview: Dan speaks

Issues:...

Hang on, you're saying Dan is lying?

What exactly is the point of your posts?

Ladewig · 6th December 2008, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by interwaff

The "how" part should be interesting to this forum. Each of Dan's stories were not likely told off the top of his very bald head, nor memorized from script. They were probably acted out by role-playing.

Or they are simply lifted from science fiction movies and television show. Secret bases with monorails go as far back as the Flash Gordon series. Stargates and irises, of course, come from "Stargate SG-1." There seems to be very little original material here.

Aepervius · 6th December 2008, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Claim: these aliens are actually future humans. The major reason for alien abductions is that they have accumulated genetic problems over thousands of years, and are using our genes to help correct them. Hmm... Thousands of years pass, they gain the power to time-travel, and yet they can't fix their own medical issues without us. So only their physics advance; genetics, medicine, computational biology... none of that makes the aliens healthier, thousands of years onward. They need *us* to get better.

And why 2008 ? Why not 1850 ? Or 1633 ? Or whatever other date ? From what i know about genetic drift as a species our genetic "content" should not change that much over so few years (alt6hough a case could be done for genetic content before and after a pandemic). So why risk being watched in 2008, when for the same purpose 100 years ago would be enough without risk of getting caught ? And if you don#t care about getting caught , then why the secrecy ?

If you start scratching at the fact and logic, this quickly all fall apart.

interwaff · 7th December 2008, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Aepervius

And why 2008 ?

He's got that covered. Apparently earth's time line may diverge in 2012 (of course) due to some disaster that can be avoided by heeding Dan's plea to "unite". One set of aliens wants the disaster to occur because it benefits them. That's why they are here - to cause mischief and divide us.

The reason I focus on Dan in particular is because he is truly a good story teller. I believe his tales must be based on reality in order to tell a convincing 1st person narrative. It was all acted out in a place as he described, except he is substituting the word "dentist" with the word "alien" while telling his story. That's how he tells the fine details down without stumbling.

Another note on the MiBs: they describe them so chillingly as "creepy".... Okay, so they are creepy. A mature person can handle this. There are, after all, creepy dangerous people in the world, no joke.

If you see a MiB - let him be creepy! It's a free country. If you think this creepy being will harm you, then you need to use judgment and decided whether to run, call for help, or use some level of force against it.

In short, grow up Dan! Panhandlers are creepy. They can hurt you, because they are crazy. Don't be a baby, just deal with it.

Ladewig · 7th December 2008, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by interwaff

The reason I focus on Dan in particular is because he is truly a good story teller. I believe his tales must be based on reality in order to tell a convincing 1st person narrative. It was all acted out in a place as he described, except he is substituting the word "dentist" with the word "alien" while telling his story. That's how he tells the fine details down without stumbling.

Why do you find it hard to believe that someone could be so good of a storyteller that he could describe very fine details without having the story acted out in front of him?

interwaff · 7th December 2008, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

Why do you find it hard to believe that someone could be so good of a storyteller that he could describe very fine details without having the story acted out in front of him?

Because.

Paul · 7th December 2008, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by interwaff

Because.

Ah, you're an idiot troll wasting everyone's time, thanks for clearing that up.

1st December 2008, 01:26 PM	#1
interwaff Thinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 136	Project Camelot interviews Dan Burisch http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html I hate how liars tarnish people with real incredible stories, such as Dr. Dan Burisch who is a real person. The USA attacked Iraq because they were building a looking glass, which is a modified version of a stargate that provides information of probable futures. Saddam could not be trusted with such technology. If you don't believe it, you are not stupid - just ignorant.
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1st December 2008, 01:33 PM	#2
Paul Master Poster Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,977	Sorry, could you make that a little more confused please?
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1st December 2008, 01:39 PM	#3
interwaff Thinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 136	Originally Posted by Paul Sorry, could you make that a little more confused please? My bad.... The video explains everything. Get the facts!
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1st December 2008, 01:54 PM	#5
Paul Master Poster Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,977	Originally Posted by interwaff My bad.... The video explains everything. Get the facts! Ah, I see, you want me to believe some science fiction conspiracy nonsense from a man whose work is supposedly so secret and important that he can talk about it on the internet and post cryptic announcements through third parties. Is that about the size of it?
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1st December 2008, 03:05 PM	#6
sanguine Thinker Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 206	From the "Our Goals" section of the site: "Another one of our interviews is with Duncan O’Finioan, a less well-known figure but one whose story is hugely important if true, as we believe it is, at least in its principal claims. (And if he has some false recall as part of a mind-controlled implanted false reality, that in itself proves the point!)" Note the standard trick of arranging the story such that any contradicting evidence can be cited as support.
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1st December 2008, 01:41 PM	#4
biomorph Muse Join Date: May 2007 Location: here, and sometimes elsewhere Posts: 866	Originally Posted by interwaff If you don't believe it, you are not stupid - just ignorant. I don't believe it, and I'll stay not stupid, and relish the ignorance..........

2nd December 2008, 05:16 AM	#7
interwaff Thinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 136	Originally Posted by Paul Ah, I see, you want me to believe some science fiction conspiracy nonsense from a man whose work is supposedly so secret and important that he can talk about it on the internet and post cryptic announcements through third parties. Is that about the size of it? "We have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom, and America will always be faithful to that cause." - President George W. Bush You are NOT stupid for not connecting the dots. Just ignorant.
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2nd December 2008, 05:38 AM	#8
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,672	Originally Posted by Paul Ah, I see, you want me to believe some science fiction conspiracy nonsense from a man whose work is supposedly so secret and important that he can talk about it on the internet and post cryptic announcements through third parties. Is that about the size of it? I think that was a big "yes".
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2nd December 2008, 06:33 AM	#9
Twiler Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,494	Originally Posted by interwaff "We have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom, and America will always be faithful to that cause." - President George W. Bush You are NOT stupid for not connecting the dots. Just ignorant. I've found the truth: http://www.timecube.com/
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2nd December 2008, 06:50 AM	#10
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,573	Originally Posted by interwaff http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html I hate how liars tarnish people with real incredible stories, such as Dr. Dan Burisch who is a real person. The USA attacked Iraq because they were building a looking glass, which is a modified version of a stargate that provides information of probable futures. Saddam could not be trusted with such technology. If you don't believe it, you are not stupid - just ignorant. I believe it! This is true! The same article was in the free newspaper you threw on my lawn last week.
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2nd December 2008, 08:08 AM	#11
Paul Master Poster Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,977	Originally Posted by interwaff "We have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom, and America will always be faithful to that cause." - President George W. Bush Well, if you want to imply that dubya believes in our alien overlords, it must be true. Quote: You are NOT stupid for not connecting the dots. Just ignorant. While your puppy-like insistence is certainly cute, it does not advance your cause in any way.
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TobiasTheViking Resident Viking Autist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: With your mother Posts: 6,923	Originally Posted by interwaff http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html I hate how liars tarnish people with real incredible stories, such as Dr. Dan Burisch who is a real person. The USA attacked Iraq because they were building a looking glass, which is a modified version of a stargate that provides information of probable futures. Saddam could not be trusted with such technology. If you don't believe it, you are not stupid - just ignorant. I'm pretty sure that there are quite a few episodes of Stargate about this...
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2nd December 2008, 10:30 AM	#13
sthomson Muse Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 934	Originally Posted by TobiasTheViking I'm pretty sure that there are quite a few episodes of Stargate about this... Of course there are! It's all a plot to convince the public that these "looking glasses" don't exist. From this thread, it appears to be working very well
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2nd December 2008, 12:51 PM	#14
sanguine Thinker Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 206	Originally Posted by interwaff "We have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom, and America will always be faithful to that cause." - President George W. Bush You need a better authority if you're going to pull the whole "appeal to authority" fallacy. Incidentally, why do conspiracy wonks think there are world-spanning conspiracies that nonetheless are run by people who are dumb enough to talk about it in public speeches, and who feel compelled to leave clues on money and in renaissance paintings? Seems silly. If I had to run a conspiracy, there'd be, like, three people who knew. Maybe. (As for the quote above, surely applying a little bit of Occam's Razor suggests that Bush, as an avowed and active Christian, just might be talking about God when he refers to "beyond the stars," and not our approaching alien overlords?)
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2nd December 2008, 01:25 PM	#15
Edges Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 279	Originally Posted by sanguine Incidentally, why do conspiracy wonks think there are world-spanning conspiracies that nonetheless are run by people who are dumb enough to talk about it in public speeches, and who feel compelled to leave clues on money and in renaissance paintings? But don't you see? That's all part of the conspiracy! They want to lull us into a false sense of security so that we ignore all the obvious signs of their presence! In fact, the conspiracy wonks may actually be part of the conspiracy in an effort to make it seem to crazy to be true! /tinfoil hat mode Ouch.

2nd December 2008, 01:55 PM	#16
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,936	Originally Posted by interwaff http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html I hate how liars tarnish people with real incredible stories, such as Dr. Dan Burisch who is a real person. The USA attacked Iraq because they were building a looking glass, which is a modified version of a stargate that provides information of probable futures. Saddam could not be trusted with such technology. If you don't believe it, you are not stupid - just ignorant. Are you saying you believe that stuff? Really?
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2nd December 2008, 03:57 PM	#17
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23,023	Originally Posted by Ladewig Are you saying you believe that stuff? Really? I think this is an example of how true your signature quote is.

2nd December 2008, 03:58 PM	#18
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23,023	Hey, if you want to accept as real a device that would pretty much violate every law of physics as we know it, you have to do better then that.

6th December 2008, 02:23 AM	#19
interwaff Thinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 136	This was a 2002 interview: Dan speaks Issues: Dan is asked about his knowledge of papilloma virus, and flown by jet and then helicopter to the complex (where he is again asked the question - somebody "dropped the ball" he suggests). Usually if you need an expert on something, you search for people who published on the topic and then go to them. Even if one's resume isn't public, credentials generally are. In many cases a person's boss knows better than the actual person whether he or she is an expert in something, even though the boss is a dunce on that same topic. Maybe Dan was the only person available with the right security clearance, and having a general background in microbiology was "good enough". A more likely approach to treating alien herpes is to issue a job posting, screen applications, and have the person report on their own for interviews and hiring. Rushing a hand-picked candidate of undetermined qualifications out on a jet and a chopper is.... overdramatic. He describes the alien container as coming out of an iris-shaped door in the floor. Again- dramatic! Just put the damn thing in a room somewhere. Lock the door, and put up a "no trespassing" sign. Guard the door. Building and maintaining an iris/elevator apparatus is absurd. He claims he performed gene therapy to treat the alien. This was supposedly in the 1990s. Yet even today, gene therapy is almost completely experimental. The complex uses a monorail system for transport. I believe even the Pentagon uses golf carts, and most people walk. Mines and tunnels often use rail, but now this seems like a lot of people involved. Silencing that many workers for this long would be hard. Also a fair number would have instant and severe psychological problems at realizing their proximity to a live alien. That's no small detail - some people would really freak out and be emotionally scarred. So where are they?! Claim: these aliens are actually future humans. The major reason for alien abductions is that they have accumulated genetic problems over thousands of years, and are using our genes to help correct them. Hmm... Thousands of years pass, they gain the power to time-travel, and yet they can't fix their own medical issues without us. So only their physics advance; genetics, medicine, computational biology... none of that makes the aliens healthier, thousands of years onward. They need us to get better. All of these secret projects have ended. J-Rod... sent home. Majestic-12... adjourned. The looking glasses and stargates... all disassembled and stored away. (So don't bother looking for them!) Men-in-black. Funny they never hang around very long, although he says they can barely walk! Even when Dan and his woman were almost justified in shooting one (both being ex-cops), it just didn't happen. Luckily that wasn't necessary. Convenient too! A) We negotiate treaties with aliens that are renewed every 9 years. or B) "Hi, we're aliens. You will give us what we want NOW, you will get NOTHING in return, and you can all pray to your various Gods that we don't kill you for absolutely no reason whatsoever." I'm not too concerned with why Dan is telling these stories. What's established about him is enough, plausibly, to be a part of some disinformation project, psy-ops campaign, whatever. There is no shortage of motives for government lies. The "how" part should be interesting to this forum. Each of Dan's stories were not likely told off the top of his very bald head, nor memorized from script. They were probably acted out by role-playing. It took some setting up- with staging, props, and character actors... all pretty much as Dan described. This allows one to establish the elaborate details and small personal insights necessary to seem credible... to sound "not rehearsed" as one retells the role he or she played in the act. That is how it is done. The "why" may have something to do with his vapid personal plea, essentially- trust in globalization, trust the good old Masons, let's all get along....
interwaff Thinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 136

6th December 2008, 03:52 AM	#20
Paul Master Poster Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,977	Originally Posted by interwaff This was a 2002 interview: Dan speaks Issues:... Hang on, you're saying Dan is lying? What exactly is the point of your posts?
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6th December 2008, 05:54 AM	#21
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,936	Originally Posted by interwaff The "how" part should be interesting to this forum. Each of Dan's stories were not likely told off the top of his very bald head, nor memorized from script. They were probably acted out by role-playing. Or they are simply lifted from science fiction movies and television show. Secret bases with monorails go as far back as the Flash Gordon series. Stargates and irises, of course, come from "Stargate SG-1." There seems to be very little original material here.
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6th December 2008, 08:47 AM	#22
Aepervius Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bierland. I mean , germany. Posts: 7,888	Quote: Claim: these aliens are actually future humans. The major reason for alien abductions is that they have accumulated genetic problems over thousands of years, and are using our genes to help correct them. Hmm... Thousands of years pass, they gain the power to time-travel, and yet they can't fix their own medical issues without us. So only their physics advance; genetics, medicine, computational biology... none of that makes the aliens healthier, thousands of years onward. They need us to get better. And why 2008 ? Why not 1850 ? Or 1633 ? Or whatever other date ? From what i know about genetic drift as a species our genetic "content" should not change that much over so few years (alt6hough a case could be done for genetic content before and after a pandemic). So why risk being watched in 2008, when for the same purpose 100 years ago would be enough without risk of getting caught ? And if you don#t care about getting caught , then why the secrecy ? If you start scratching at the fact and logic, this quickly all fall apart.
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7th December 2008, 02:03 AM	#23
interwaff Thinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 136	Originally Posted by Aepervius And why 2008 ? He's got that covered. Apparently earth's time line may diverge in 2012 (of course) due to some disaster that can be avoided by heeding Dan's plea to "unite". One set of aliens wants the disaster to occur because it benefits them. That's why they are here - to cause mischief and divide us. The reason I focus on Dan in particular is because he is truly a good story teller. I believe his tales must be based on reality in order to tell a convincing 1st person narrative. It was all acted out in a place as he described, except he is substituting the word "dentist" with the word "alien" while telling his story. That's how he tells the fine details down without stumbling. Another note on the MiBs: they describe them so chillingly as "creepy".... Okay, so they are creepy. A mature person can handle this. There are, after all, creepy dangerous people in the world, no joke. If you see a MiB - let him be creepy! It's a free country. If you think this creepy being will harm you, then you need to use judgment and decided whether to run, call for help, or use some level of force against it. In short, grow up Dan! Panhandlers are creepy. They can hurt you, because they are crazy. Don't be a baby, just deal with it.
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7th December 2008, 06:32 AM	#24
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,936	Originally Posted by interwaff The reason I focus on Dan in particular is because he is truly a good story teller. I believe his tales must be based on reality in order to tell a convincing 1st person narrative. It was all acted out in a place as he described, except he is substituting the word "dentist" with the word "alien" while telling his story. That's how he tells the fine details down without stumbling. Why do you find it hard to believe that someone could be so good of a storyteller that he could describe very fine details without having the story acted out in front of him?
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7th December 2008, 12:49 PM	#25
interwaff Thinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 136	Originally Posted by Ladewig Why do you find it hard to believe that someone could be so good of a storyteller that he could describe very fine details without having the story acted out in front of him? Because.
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7th December 2008, 01:51 PM	#26
Paul Master Poster Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,977	Originally Posted by interwaff Because. Ah, you're an idiot troll wasting everyone's time, thanks for clearing that up.
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