Beethoven And the Illuminati

Walter Ego · 12th December 2008, 10:35 PM

From Slate Magazine

How the secret order influenced the great composer.

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Since Beethoven's day, the secrecy and world-ordering agenda of the Illuminati have made them a natural magnet for conspiracy freaks. The Illuminati actually existed only some nine years, but there are still lots of folks, including many on the American religious right and the John Birch Society, who believe the Illuminati are the mother of all conspiracies, a Jewish-dominated international cabal that has more or less run the world since they incited the French Revolution. My saying they were a short-lived and a bit pathetic phenomenon makes me, of course, part of the conspiracy—along with Beethoven. I'd like finally to meet some of my fellow conspirators. They seem like interesting people.

Complete article here.

240-185 · 13th December 2008, 12:46 AM

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a Jewish-dominated international cabal that has more or less run the world since they incited the French Revolution

Hey, it was supposed to be freemasons who incited French Revolution...

Aitch · 13th December 2008, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by 240-185

Hey, it was supposed to be freemasons who incited French Revolution...

Maybe the Illuminati were busy and sub-contracted the job?

Donal · 15th December 2008, 06:19 PM

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but there are still lots of folks, including many on the American religious right and the John Birch Society, who believe the Illuminati are the mother of all conspiracies, a Jewish-dominated international cabal

Wouldn't be a Slate article if they didn't take a swipe.

Drudgewire · 15th December 2008, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Donal

Wouldn't be a Slate article if they didn't take a swipe.

Yeah, good to know there's no left-wing paranoia towards the Illuminati.

moon1969 · 17th December 2008, 03:13 AM

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe was also a member of the illuminati started by Adam Weishaupt.

Brainache · 17th December 2008, 10:26 AM

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Beethoven And the Illuminati

Sounds like one of those old fashioned band names, like "Bill Haley and The Comets" or "Buddy Holly and The Crickets".

I think Beethoven and The Illuminati split up because he never listened to anyone else's opinions in band meetings, but of course they told the press it was because of "Artistic Differences".

It also didn't help that they got Goethe to be their manager. That guy kept making deals with the wrong people...

DC · 17th December 2008, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by moon1969

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe was also a member of the illuminati started by Adam Weishaupt.

Freiherr Knigge was also a member.
it seems to be one of the most interesting clubs of that time.

12th December 2008, 10:35 PM	#1
Walter Ego Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,557	Beethoven And the Illuminati From Slate Magazine How the secret order influenced the great composer. Quote: Since Beethoven's day, the secrecy and world-ordering agenda of the Illuminati have made them a natural magnet for conspiracy freaks. The Illuminati actually existed only some nine years, but there are still lots of folks, including many on the American religious right and the John Birch Society, who believe the Illuminati are the mother of all conspiracies, a Jewish-dominated international cabal that has more or less run the world since they incited the French Revolution. My saying they were a short-lived and a bit pathetic phenomenon makes me, of course, part of the conspiracy—along with Beethoven. I'd like finally to meet some of my fellow conspirators. They seem like interesting people. Complete article here.

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17th December 2008, 10:26 AM	#7
Brainache Nasty Brutish and Tall Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Knob Hill. Posts: 9,086	Quote: Beethoven And the Illuminati Sounds like one of those old fashioned band names, like "Bill Haley and The Comets" or "Buddy Holly and The Crickets". I think Beethoven and The Illuminati split up because he never listened to anyone else's opinions in band meetings, but of course they told the press it was because of "Artistic Differences". It also didn't help that they got Goethe to be their manager. That guy kept making deals with the wrong people...
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13th December 2008, 01:15 AM	#3
Aitch Guest Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: StAines Posts: 2,731	Originally Posted by 240-185 Hey, it was supposed to be freemasons who incited French Revolution... Maybe the Illuminati were busy and sub-contracted the job?

15th December 2008, 06:19 PM	#4
Donal Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,128	Quote: but there are still lots of folks, including many on the American religious right and the John Birch Society, who believe the Illuminati are the mother of all conspiracies, a Jewish-dominated international cabal Wouldn't be a Slate article if they didn't take a swipe.

17th December 2008, 03:13 AM	#6
moon1969 Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,288	Johann Wolfgang von Goethe was also a member of the illuminati started by Adam Weishaupt.