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Lisa Simpson · 28th December 2008, 06:39 AM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...fi-system.html

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Some healers even hold that electro-magnetic fields (EMFs) generated by the wi-fi system are responsible for upsetting positive energy fields of the body, which are known as chakras, and positive energy fields of the earth, which are known as ley lines.

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At a public meeting to discuss alleged health problems in the Somerset town, residents complained of numerous symptoms including headaches, dizziness, rashes and even pneumonia.

shadron · 28th December 2008, 07:51 AM

Let's see - 22 paragraphs against the wi-fi, 2 for it, one neutral. The nays win. It must be a problem.

Unless we can blame someone else...

nescafe · 28th December 2008, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...fi-system.html

Well, good thing my daughter has been bathed in the stuff since birth, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. So far she seems happy and healthy to me -- the healthy 2.4 and 5 GHz radio waves blanketing her 24x7 must give her immune system a chew toy and keep her chakras full of energy (or some such).

I am sure the vaccines and the breast milk have helped too.

Toke · 28th December 2008, 08:06 AM

They presented ley lines as facts.

I have never heard of dowsers how could agree on their location.

How do you know if they are disturbed?

What about all the other radio signals around us?

Where is that journalists critical sense?

PixyMisa · 28th December 2008, 08:07 AM

It turned me into a newt!

Sherman Bay · 28th December 2008, 08:25 AM

Since nothing has been proven either way, I take the position that WiFi signals are POSITIVE influences on humans. What evidence is there to refute this?

Blue Mountain · 28th December 2008, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by PixyMisa

It turned me into a newt!

(looks at PixyMisa)

A newt?

RichardR · 28th December 2008, 09:36 AM

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Meanwhile soothsayers, astrologers and other opponents of the wi-fi system have resorted to an alternative technology - known as "orgone" - to combat the alleged negative effects of the high-tech system.

In a way, that makes perfect sense. To fix an imaginary problem they're using an imaginary solution.

joobz · 28th December 2008, 09:42 AM

I state that the stupidity fields that these people generate are much more hazardous to our health.

Toke · 28th December 2008, 09:44 AM

Cool, that should fix the chemtrails too.

I wonder if the Wi-Fi company could use an ~~magic amulet~~ "orgone converter" and place it directly under the transmitter/reciever to stop the problem at the source.

3 pieces of amber placed on a titaniun triangle should do the trick.

biomorph · 28th December 2008, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Toke

Cool, that should fix the chemtrails too.

I wonder if the Wi-Fi company could use an ~~magic amulet~~ "orgone converter" and place it directly under the transmitter/reciever to stop the problem at the source.

3 pieces of amber placed on a titaniun triangle should do the trick.

I'll mention it to the relevant types whe I stroll into town next, I spend quite a bit of time down here from time to time....bound to catch on.

There are regular meetings over this issue, I might pop along and see what the score is.

However I think that the majority of Glasto's 9000 population don't give a monkey's uncle (probably either way!).....

I'm in town for a few days soon so I'll do a little digging perhaps.

Toke · 28th December 2008, 10:40 AM

I wish they had the currage to do it.

Make a small metal frame with some crystals and amber bits, take a picture for the paper and place it in the mast.
Then dare the woo´s to call orgone fake, or prove it does not work.

Soapy Sam · 28th December 2008, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Mountain

(looks at PixyMisa)

A newt?

Well-he got better.

Dunstan · 28th December 2008, 01:43 PM

If the woos claim that wi-fi can interfere with chakras, then doesn't this give us a way to test for the existence of chakras?

Soapy Sam · 28th December 2008, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Dunstan

If the woos claim that wi-fi can interfere with chakras, then doesn't this give us a way to test for the existence of chakras?

Now you're being silly.

Richard Masters · 28th December 2008, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Dunstan

If the woos claim that wi-fi can interfere with chakras, then doesn't this give us a way to test for the existence of chakras?

To paraphrase Ron Tomkins:

Yes.

Toke · 28th December 2008, 02:17 PM

I suspect the effect is far too supple for the crude experiments I could design.

Like having a chakra seer look hard at a person and tell when the Wi-Fi is on or off, while somebody in the next room flip the swicht randomly and record the timing.

So no, this does not help with testing.
(Ok it does not help chakra credibility either)

Sherman Bay · 28th December 2008, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Toke

I suspect the effect is far too supple for the crude experiments I could design.

Supple? As in flexible? Perhaps you mean "subtle"? As in barely noticeable?

Toke · 28th December 2008, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Sherman Bay

Supple? As in flexible? Perhaps you mean "subtle"? As in barely noticeable?

Yes I did, thanks.
Subtle, as in, will not be noticeable under controlled conditions.

28th December 2008, 06:39 AM	#1
Lisa Simpson THE Lisa Simpson Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 123 Fake Street Posts: 20,111	Wi-fi accused of causing pneumonia http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...fi-system.html Quote: Some healers even hold that electro-magnetic fields (EMFs) generated by the wi-fi system are responsible for upsetting positive energy fields of the body, which are known as chakras, and positive energy fields of the earth, which are known as ley lines. Quote: At a public meeting to discuss alleged health problems in the Somerset town, residents complained of numerous symptoms including headaches, dizziness, rashes and even pneumonia.

28th December 2008, 08:06 AM	#4
Toke Godless Socialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 7,620	They presented ley lines as facts. I have never heard of dowsers how could agree on their location. How do you know if they are disturbed? What about all the other radio signals around us? Where is that journalists critical sense?
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28th December 2008, 08:07 AM	#5
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28th December 2008, 08:32 AM	#7
Blue Mountain Resident Skeptical Hobbit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waging war on woo-woo in Winnipeg Posts: 3,657	Originally Posted by PixyMisa It turned me into a newt! (looks at PixyMisa) A newt?
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28th December 2008, 09:36 AM	#8
RichardR Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,281	Quote: Meanwhile soothsayers, astrologers and other opponents of the wi-fi system have resorted to an alternative technology - known as "orgone" - to combat the alleged negative effects of the high-tech system. In a way, that makes perfect sense. To fix an imaginary problem they're using an imaginary solution.
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28th December 2008, 07:51 AM	#2
shadron Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,719	Let's see - 22 paragraphs against the wi-fi, 2 for it, one neutral. The nays win. It must be a problem. Unless we can blame someone else...

28th December 2008, 08:01 AM	#3
nescafe Caffeinated Beverage Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Just above the coffeemaker Posts: 864	Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...fi-system.html Well, good thing my daughter has been bathed in the stuff since birth, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. So far she seems happy and healthy to me -- the healthy 2.4 and 5 GHz radio waves blanketing her 24x7 must give her immune system a chew toy and keep her chakras full of energy (or some such). I am sure the vaccines and the breast milk have helped too.

28th December 2008, 08:25 AM	#6
Sherman Bay Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,092	Since nothing has been proven either way, I take the position that WiFi signals are POSITIVE influences on humans. What evidence is there to refute this?

28th December 2008, 09:42 AM	#9
joobz Tergiversator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: That's how you get ants Posts: 17,588	I state that the stupidity fields that these people generate are much more hazardous to our health.
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28th December 2008, 09:44 AM	#10
Toke Godless Socialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 7,620	Cool, that should fix the chemtrails too. I wonder if the Wi-Fi company could use an ~~magic amulet~~ "orgone converter" and place it directly under the transmitter/reciever to stop the problem at the source. 3 pieces of amber placed on a titaniun triangle should do the trick.
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28th December 2008, 09:57 AM	#11
biomorph Muse Join Date: May 2007 Location: here, and sometimes elsewhere Posts: 866	Originally Posted by Toke Cool, that should fix the chemtrails too. I wonder if the Wi-Fi company could use an ~~magic amulet~~ "orgone converter" and place it directly under the transmitter/reciever to stop the problem at the source. 3 pieces of amber placed on a titaniun triangle should do the trick. I'll mention it to the relevant types whe I stroll into town next, I spend quite a bit of time down here from time to time....bound to catch on. There are regular meetings over this issue, I might pop along and see what the score is. However I think that the majority of Glasto's 9000 population don't give a monkey's uncle (probably either way!)..... I'm in town for a few days soon so I'll do a little digging perhaps.

28th December 2008, 10:40 AM	#12
Toke Godless Socialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 7,620	I wish they had the currage to do it. Make a small metal frame with some crystals and amber bits, take a picture for the paper and place it in the mast. Then dare the woo´s to call orgone fake, or prove it does not work.
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28th December 2008, 01:22 PM	#13
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,929	Originally Posted by Blue Mountain (looks at PixyMisa) A newt? Well-he got better.
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28th December 2008, 01:43 PM	#14
Dunstan Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sunnyvale Trailer Park Posts: 4,292	If the woos claim that wi-fi can interfere with chakras, then doesn't this give us a way to test for the existence of chakras?

28th December 2008, 01:58 PM	#15
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,929	Originally Posted by Dunstan If the woos claim that wi-fi can interfere with chakras, then doesn't this give us a way to test for the existence of chakras? Now you're being silly.
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28th December 2008, 02:01 PM	#16
Richard Masters Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,030	Originally Posted by Dunstan If the woos claim that wi-fi can interfere with chakras, then doesn't this give us a way to test for the existence of chakras? To paraphrase Ron Tomkins: Yes.

28th December 2008, 02:17 PM	#17
Toke Godless Socialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 7,620	I suspect the effect is far too supple for the crude experiments I could design. Like having a chakra seer look hard at a person and tell when the Wi-Fi is on or off, while somebody in the next room flip the swicht randomly and record the timing. So no, this does not help with testing. (Ok it does not help chakra credibility either)
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28th December 2008, 02:22 PM	#18
Sherman Bay Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,092	Originally Posted by Toke I suspect the effect is far too supple for the crude experiments I could design. Supple? As in flexible? Perhaps you mean "subtle"? As in barely noticeable?

28th December 2008, 02:33 PM	#19
Toke Godless Socialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 7,620	Originally Posted by Sherman Bay Supple? As in flexible? Perhaps you mean "subtle"? As in barely noticeable? Yes I did, thanks. Subtle, as in, will not be noticeable under controlled conditions.
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