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New Blood
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Avoid death with your lightbody
In most religions below the surface and hidden from the masses in the mystical there are exercises for how to die an alternative way. The physical body still dies but you become aware of having another body beyond time and space that will never die. First we according to teachings must be able to experience reality as it is. Our Dna and brain does not tell us the truth of how it looks out there. Itīs an interpretation as your probably know! The real reality is said to be made of light, light filaments and like a hologram. To see this meditation is the key. Perhaps one of the most effective is to meditate on sound -the inner sound.
If you use ear pluggs you can after a while hear a high frequency sound as if in the middle of your head. You hear this sound directly with your brain!! A ringing sound. Yoga tells this is the divine sound. A sound from higher spiritual energies. NO not Tinnitus in this case. Anyway, if we concentrate on this sound with much practise it is possible to start seeing the light behind the illusion our brain and Dna gives us. We might then start to see our body of light and become eternal beings. Dzogchen teachings have more exercises so you might want to check it up. If you find this helpful, please share it with others online! Feel free to discuss anything related to this here whatever your thoughts are. |
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New Blood
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Norway
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Are you garanteed happiness in your lightbody? I'm not sure I want to risk depression for all eternity.
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Join Date: Aug 2001
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Great taste! Less filling!
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"Oh Holy gravity, the mother of all powers, what you do to us, the children of the stars" pillory "How can the third-person requirements of the scientific method be reconciled with the first-person nature of consciousness?" Win |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Miami, Fl
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Edits in boldface to embarrass you. Didn't you go to school?
Here, if you're going to go about the web spamming this, you might at least make it easier to parse. It's been edited for format, grammar, syntax, and readability. That fact that it's irredeemable nonsense I can do nothing about. |
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Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope. Statement: This definition, I am told, is subject to interpretation. Obviously, love is a matter of odds. Not many meatbags could make such a shot, and fewer would derive love from it. Yet for me, love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticle, and together, achieving a singular purpose, against statistically long odds. -HK-47 |
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Papa FunkosophyJoin Date: May 2002
Location: Funky Town (STL, MO)
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So, this is a thread about Force ghosts?
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Central Illinois
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Hi, I hope you understand something crucial about the, the diamond body is different in eastern and western mysticism. The east does not parse it as fine as the west.
In the west there is essence, spirit, what have you. Upon death is moves on to another plane and leaves behind the 'astral shells', they are not the true essence or spirit. Now as to the evidence that a body of light survives the death of the body, zero. Astral tag, your it! |
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Hell, dynamiting fish in a barrel is more challenging. - Ladewig I suspect you are a sandwich, metaphorically speaking. -Donn And a shot rang out. Now Space is doing time... -Ben Burch You built the toilet - don't complain when people crap in it. _Kid Eager |
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Penultimate Amazing
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Jesus ... wasn't he the bloke who turned fish into wine and made the lepers multiply? -KateHL Violence is more acceptable than incest. I have been told to keep this in mind. |
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Great Dalmuti
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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"If it's real, then it gets more interesting the closer you examine it. If it's not real, just the opposite is true." - aggle-rithm |
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Official Nemesis
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Trying to decide whether to set defenses against an army, or against mole rats.
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Does this mean we all die when the door to the refrigerator closes?
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Yvette: "Blasty! Blasty! Blasty!" Some person: "Why did you shoot that?" Yvette: "Blasty! Blasty! Blasty!" - Tragic Monkey |
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Dental Floss Tycoon
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge
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I think I'll meditate on sound in the form of Frank Zappa's Cosmik Debris.
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It looks just like a Telefunken U47... You'll love it. |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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I agree with FZ, who you jivein’? By the way that sound you hear while wearing earplugs is the blood moving through the capillaries in your ears.
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jul 2006
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On your old TV show even Boo Boo did not believe you when you said, you were "smarter than the average bear". I understand bears actually have an IQ around 20.
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"Reality is what's left when you cease to believe." Philip K. Dick |
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Penultimate Amazing
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Slide Rulez 4 Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Launching the army, waiting for Hok to commit her forces (then the moles strike...)
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It is sad that this is necessary: Argumentum Ad Hominem: "You are wrong because you are ugly." Not Ad-Hom: "You are wrong and you are ugly." [X's posts are] ...as good as having 24 hours of Justin Bieber piped into your ears! - kmortis |
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In the Peanut Gallery
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Melbourne
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So if I listen to my iPod I become immortal? Cool.
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A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. Sir Winston Churchill |
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Based on a true story!
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"JimBenArm is right" Hokulele Mom |
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Penultimate Amazing
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Hell, dynamiting fish in a barrel is more challenging. - Ladewig I suspect you are a sandwich, metaphorically speaking. -Donn And a shot rang out. Now Space is doing time... -Ben Burch You built the toilet - don't complain when people crap in it. _Kid Eager |
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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According to Hagehr teachings, this form of meditation eventually results in possession by extratemporal life-forms. End of the world, sort of thing. You might want to cut back.
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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That would be the mind control rays that Big Brother is using to manipulate what you think and do. I think there's a very good chance that you will find the information at the following URL to be very helpful: http://www.zapatopi.net/afdb/ |
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Intellectual Gladiator
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the midst of a vast, beautiful & uncaring universe
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Nothing that lives can avoid death. Anyone who says differently is selling something.
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Observer of Phenomena
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The other side of your screen
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Jadey (in RvB game thread): I just want to take a moment to commend Arth on his role as Parasitic Alien Tumor. I think he really connected with the character and there were times when I forgot that he was just acting. That's the kind of talent that you can't teach. |
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Intellectual Gladiator
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the midst of a vast, beautiful & uncaring universe
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I, for one, welcome our arthwollipot Overlords.
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Briefly immortal
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Intellectual Gladiator
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Rouge Element
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Talking with Glyph
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'Fear is the mind-killer' - Dune, Frank Herbert 'If there is an intelligent designer, why is the product so flawed?' - Diogenes http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...0&postcount=99 |
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Cowardly Lurking in the Shadows of Greatness
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Colorado
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I have loud tinnitus, how would I hear the divine sound over that racket?
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New Blood
Join Date: Dec 2008
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I donīt know for sure. There are other methods as well. But with much practise this sound becomes very loud. Another method is to just close your eyes and look a little upwards. After a while you might see some light. If you concentrate on it you will feel like being drawn deeper. What actually happens in all meditations is that your brainwaves frequency slows down and i assume you therefore easier "tune in".
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New Blood
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New Blood
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Great with so many opinions. Of course you donīt believe. What else should i expect from a Randi forum??
And there are to many false teachings out there brainwashing people and causing even wars so itīs a good idea to be skeptical sometimes. But you guys would really miss something valuable if you did not try this.
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Master Poster
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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We don't know what you expected.
We expect some sort of evidence for your claims besides your personal experience and your pull-it-out-of-air claim that people "in the know" get it.
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Speaking of false teachings, I believe one is following you around. You might want to chase it away or something.
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Nov 2007
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What if I've eaten far too many double whoppers, and I no longer have what anyone could reasonably call a lightbody?
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Central Illinois
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Yeah right, another 'secret masters' scenario.
Read up newbie, I am not who you think I am. I have practised the arts and mysteries. I do know what meditation is, I have practiced it for a long time. In fact the vast majority of meditation as expounded by the buddhists deals very strongly with emotions. As does the taoist forms. And much of the hindu and other forms as well. You are talking about some form of raja-yoga or trance. Which I am also familiar with. You are also involved in some hellenistic/zoroastrian dualism, if you were in the know, you would know that the heart and mind are linked and of the same cloth. One hand washes the other, there is no mind without emotion, the two are inseparable in a whole of the being. Body, thoughts, emotions, perceptions and habits. All of one cloth. Beware the astral zombies and those who tell you they are masters, masters teach, they never claim to know. You should also beware of gods, devi, angels and demons. You are human, the penultimate, bow to none. So take your high and mighty and sell your soap some other place. |
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Hell, dynamiting fish in a barrel is more challenging. - Ladewig I suspect you are a sandwich, metaphorically speaking. -Donn And a shot rang out. Now Space is doing time... -Ben Burch You built the toilet - don't complain when people crap in it. _Kid Eager |
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Central Illinois
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Ah yes, your True Scotman Cookiecutter is full of Straw!
And you might think that gazing into the Flashlight of Enlightenment has some Great Import. Go for a walk, plant a garden, hang out with children, you will learn much more. I will spell it out for, the immortal essence if it exists, is like AL, beyond description and human understanding. So that essence if it exists, is not your BoL, that is human, that is of dross. That is an astral shell that will become an astral zombie. You need to find better teachers. |
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Hell, dynamiting fish in a barrel is more challenging. - Ladewig I suspect you are a sandwich, metaphorically speaking. -Donn And a shot rang out. Now Space is doing time... -Ben Burch You built the toilet - don't complain when people crap in it. _Kid Eager |
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Penultimate Amazing
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Hell, dynamiting fish in a barrel is more challenging. - Ladewig I suspect you are a sandwich, metaphorically speaking. -Donn And a shot rang out. Now Space is doing time... -Ben Burch You built the toilet - don't complain when people crap in it. _Kid Eager |
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Penultimate Amazing
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