Barack Obama as CIA NOC

metamars · 25th February 2009, 05:57 AM

Wayne Madsen, who doesn't name sources (and can be very wrong about some things), reports the following:

Quote:

For one year, Obama worked as a researcher in BIC's financial services division where he wrote for two BIC publications, Financing Foreign Operations and Business International Money Report, a weekly newsletter.

An informed source has told WMR that Obama's tuition debt at Columbia was paid off by BIC. In addition, WMR has learned that when Obama lived in Indonesia with his mother and his adoptive father Lolo Soetoro, the 20-year-old Obama, who was known as "Barry Soetoro," traveled to Pakistan in 1981 and was hosted by the family of Muhammadmian Soomro, a Pakistani Sindh who became acting President of Pakistan after the resignation of General Pervez Musharraf on August 18, 2008. WMR was told that the Obama/Soetoro trip to Pakistan, ostensibly to go "partridge hunting" with the Soomros, related to unknown CIA business. The covert CIA program to assist the Afghan mujaheddin was already well underway at the time and Pakistan was the major base of operations for the CIA's support. Obama also reportedly traveled to India, again, on unknown business for U.S. intelligence. WMR has been told by knowledgeable sources that Obama has, in the past, traveled on at least three passports: U.S., Indonesian, and British.

BIC also maintained a European subsidiary, Business International S.A., in Geneva.

BIC had long been associated with CIA activities since being founded by Eldridge Haynes, a self-professed liberal Democrat.

(emphasis mine)

Ohnoes · 25th February 2009, 08:30 AM

The problem with this is that the CIA cover was reveled to the public in 1977. One of the founders himself let the cat out of the bag, which would lead me to believe the CIA would end operations with them because it would no longer be covert.

I just can't imagine the CIA trying to run ops in a company that has already reveled that they were covering for 4 CIA operatives. I'm also not sure what Haynes being a liberal Democrat has to do with any of it.

moon1969 · 25th February 2009, 09:49 PM

So he is not a muslim kenyan anymore?

JoeyDonuts · 25th February 2009, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by metamars

Wayne Madsen, who doesn't name sources (and can be very wrong about some things), reports the following:

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's the same Wayne Madsen that inspired the whole ULTIMA1 ruckus.

metamars · 26th February 2009, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ohnoes

The problem with this is that the CIA cover was reveled to the public in 1977. One of the founders himself let the cat out of the bag, which would lead me to believe the CIA would end operations with them because it would no longer be covert.

I just can't imagine the CIA trying to run ops in a company that has already reveled that they were covering for 4 CIA operatives. I'm also not sure what Haynes being a liberal Democrat has to do with any of it.

You have a point, but as the US/CIA and Pakistan/ISI were closely cooperating, having a position, which is suspected of or known to be a cover by the latter, would be a non-issue, to them. OTOH, Communist spies would still be quite interested.

IOW, Obama was not employed as a hostile spy. Indeed, he may not have been involved with anything like spying, at all. E.g., he may have been involved with logistical issues, where his need to know any juicy secrets was zilch. Nevertheless, he may have developed affinities for "the Company", which sway his judgement down to this day. Madsen concluded his article with the following:

Quote:

At the very least, Obama helped in providing economic intelligence to the CIA as a contract employee. At most, Obama was, like previous BIC employees who operated abroad for the CIA, a full-fledged non-official cover (NOC) agent. Since President Obama has backpedaled on CIA renditions and torture, as well as warrantless electronic surveillance by U.S. intelligence, he owes the American people a full explanation of the circumstances behind his being hired by BIC, what his job actually entailed, and whether he continued to have a relationship with BIC or any other CIA operation while attending Harvard Law School and thereafter.

Upchurch · 26th February 2009, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by metamars

Quote:

An informed source has told WMR that Obama's tuition debt at Columbia was paid off by BIC.

Why would a lighter company pay off Obama's school debt?

BenBurch · 2nd March 2009, 09:06 PM

Well, then, I think the people who think he is a disloyal muslim ought to be silenced.

Can't get any more loyal than a NOC.

25th February 2009, 05:57 AM	#1
metamars Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,084	Barack Obama as CIA NOC Wayne Madsen, who doesn't name sources (and can be very wrong about some things), reports the following: Quote: For one year, Obama worked as a researcher in BIC's financial services division where he wrote for two BIC publications, Financing Foreign Operations and Business International Money Report, a weekly newsletter. An informed source has told WMR that Obama's tuition debt at Columbia was paid off by BIC. In addition, WMR has learned that when Obama lived in Indonesia with his mother and his adoptive father Lolo Soetoro, the 20-year-old Obama, who was known as "Barry Soetoro," traveled to Pakistan in 1981 and was hosted by the family of Muhammadmian Soomro, a Pakistani Sindh who became acting President of Pakistan after the resignation of General Pervez Musharraf on August 18, 2008. WMR was told that the Obama/Soetoro trip to Pakistan, ostensibly to go "partridge hunting" with the Soomros, related to unknown CIA business. The covert CIA program to assist the Afghan mujaheddin was already well underway at the time and Pakistan was the major base of operations for the CIA's support. Obama also reportedly traveled to India, again, on unknown business for U.S. intelligence. WMR has been told by knowledgeable sources that Obama has, in the past, traveled on at least three passports: U.S., Indonesian, and British. BIC also maintained a European subsidiary, Business International S.A., in Geneva. BIC had long been associated with CIA activities since being founded by Eldridge Haynes, a self-professed liberal Democrat. (emphasis mine)
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25th February 2009, 08:30 AM	#2
Ohnoes Thinker Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 225	The problem with this is that the CIA cover was reveled to the public in 1977. One of the founders himself let the cat out of the bag, which would lead me to believe the CIA would end operations with them because it would no longer be covert. I just can't imagine the CIA trying to run ops in a company that has already reveled that they were covering for 4 CIA operatives. I'm also not sure what Haynes being a liberal Democrat has to do with any of it.
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25th February 2009, 09:51 PM	#4
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26th February 2009, 08:26 PM	#5
metamars Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,084	Originally Posted by Ohnoes The problem with this is that the CIA cover was reveled to the public in 1977. One of the founders himself let the cat out of the bag, which would lead me to believe the CIA would end operations with them because it would no longer be covert. I just can't imagine the CIA trying to run ops in a company that has already reveled that they were covering for 4 CIA operatives. I'm also not sure what Haynes being a liberal Democrat has to do with any of it. You have a point, but as the US/CIA and Pakistan/ISI were closely cooperating, having a position, which is suspected of or known to be a cover by the latter, would be a non-issue, to them. OTOH, Communist spies would still be quite interested. IOW, Obama was not employed as a hostile spy. Indeed, he may not have been involved with anything like spying, at all. E.g., he may have been involved with logistical issues, where his need to know any juicy secrets was zilch. Nevertheless, he may have developed affinities for "the Company", which sway his judgement down to this day. Madsen concluded his article with the following: Quote: At the very least, Obama helped in providing economic intelligence to the CIA as a contract employee. At most, Obama was, like previous BIC employees who operated abroad for the CIA, a full-fledged non-official cover (NOC) agent. Since President Obama has backpedaled on CIA renditions and torture, as well as warrantless electronic surveillance by U.S. intelligence, he owes the American people a full explanation of the circumstances behind his being hired by BIC, what his job actually entailed, and whether he continued to have a relationship with BIC or any other CIA operation while attending Harvard Law School and thereafter.
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25th February 2009, 09:49 PM	#3
moon1969 Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,288	So he is not a muslim kenyan anymore?

26th February 2009, 08:32 PM	#6
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funky Town (STL, MO) Posts: 19,555	Originally Posted by metamars Quote: An informed source has told WMR that Obama's tuition debt at Columbia was paid off by BIC. Why would a lighter company pay off Obama's school debt?