Sarah Palin's daughter is calling off wedding!!!!

Thunder · 11th March 2009, 06:09 PM

I just heard this on the news!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090312/...ristol_palin_4

I guess...no VP?...No ring from baby daddy.

quixotecoyote · 11th March 2009, 06:19 PM

One question:

Did this really deserve four exclamation points in the title and another two in the opening line?

hgc · 11th March 2009, 06:25 PM

He just slipped the noose of the mother-in-law from Hell. Not that his own mother is any prize, of course (unless you prize Meth dealers). Come to think of it, these are two high school dropouts who are each better off without the other. I feel bad for the kid.

BenBurch · 11th March 2009, 06:27 PM

More Republican Family Values...

GreNME · 11th March 2009, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by The Article

Johnston, 19, told The Associated Press that he and 18-year-old Bristol Palin mutually decided "a while ago" to end their relationship. He declined to elaborate as he stood outside his family's home in Wasilla, about 40 miles north of Anchorage.

My guess is that "a while ago" was probably some time around November 6th.

Monketey Ghost · 11th March 2009, 06:29 PM

Nobody cares... that kid was never gonna be Alaskan royalty anyways. Another also-ran.

Thunder · 11th March 2009, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by quixotecoyote

One question:

Did this really deserve four exclamation points in the title and another two in the opening line?

Yes!!!! Of course!!!!!

TraneWreck · 11th March 2009, 06:41 PM

I did feel bad for that kid, talk about getting railroaded into mairrage.

Plus, he's got at least three or four trailer park chicks to get pregnant before the meth robs him of his rogueish good looks. You don't want to lose one of your prime poon-hunting years when you're going to be unemployed and burnt out at 25...

rwguinn · 11th March 2009, 07:12 PM

Bitterness is one thing.
This thread has a bad case of the self-righteousness
Y'know--the only "Perfect" man lived 2000 years ago, and he got nailed to a tree..

geni · 11th March 2009, 07:25 PM

Well I suppose that adds further evidence that the marrage proposal was mostly a PR thing.

Teenage motherhood and the poltical spotlight are an unfortunate combination.

gdnp · 11th March 2009, 07:28 PM

Would you want Sarah Palin as a mother in law?

GreNME · 11th March 2009, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

Bitterness is one thing.
This thread has a bad case of the self-righteousness
Y'know--the only "Perfect" man lived 2000 years ago, and he got nailed to a tree..

Are you serious?

Because if so, you're wrong. My grandpa wasn't that old.

hgc · 11th March 2009, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by gdnp

Would you want Sarah Palin as a mother in law?

Just picture youself as a turkey. And I don't mean the one that got pardoned.

rwguinn · 11th March 2009, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by GreNME

Are you serious?

Because if so, you're wrong. My grandpa wasn't that old.

Nor was mine--but he did have a freckle...

GreNME · 11th March 2009, 07:44 PM

Oh, I don't think I want to know where it was.

Whiplash · 11th March 2009, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

More Republican Family Values...

So you feel it's fair to indict the entire party, and all conservative "family values", on the actions of one young adult female who was raised in those values, but has made a decision for herself that goes against those values?

Does she speak for the whole party and all tradition just because her mother ran for VP? Should not this young lady have the right to make her own decision? Even one that her parents and "family values" types may think was wrong? This one girl suddenly destroys it all?

I would say they simply failed to instill those values in their daughter.

geni · 11th March 2009, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Whiplash

So you feel it's fair to indict the entire party, and all conservative "family values", on the actions of one young adult female who was raised in those values, but has made a decision for herself that goes against those values?

Does she speak for the whole party and all tradition just because her mother ran for VP? Should not this young lady have the right to make her own decision? Even one that her parents and "family values" types may think was wrong? This one girl suddenly destroys it all?

I would say they simply failed to instill those values in their daughter.

They may well have instilled them marrage requires both parties to agree. In adition it could be argued that the values that required an overhasty push towards marrage to limit political damage have been shown to be problem in this case.

Edges · 11th March 2009, 07:58 PM

Is anyone actually surprised by this?

gdnp · 11th March 2009, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by geni

They may well have instilled them marrage requires both parties to agree. In adition it could be argued that the values that required an overhasty push towards marrage to limit political damage have been shown to be problem in this case.

If the marriage was going to happen, it would have happened last fall before the baby was born. When they didn't marry before the election, I thought it was pretty unlikely that it would ever happen.

I'm afraid no MDC for this psychic prediction, however.

Roadtoad · 11th March 2009, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Whiplash

So you feel it's fair to indict the entire party, and all conservative "family values", on the actions of one young adult female who was raised in those values, but has made a decision for herself that goes against those values?

Does she speak for the whole party and all tradition just because her mother ran for VP? Should not this young lady have the right to make her own decision? Even one that her parents and "family values" types may think was wrong? This one girl suddenly destroys it all?

I would say they simply failed to instill those values in their daughter.

I think the point Ben was trying to make was that for all Sarah Palin's preaching (and yes, that's the word) about "Family Values," "Faith," and "Integrity," we've seen little of it from her, or for that matter, far too many members of the Republican Party.

Let's see: Bob Packwood, the Senator from Oregon was also known as the "Capitol Groper" for his behavior at the Capitol, as well as his trite diary which showed us that he was far more concerned with how to brush his hair to get the right "poof" in it, even as he was being forced out for his lack of ethics.

Should we mention Trent Lott's gaffe, saying it was too bad that Strom Thurmond, who openly supported Segregation, never made it to the Oval Office? Or the fact that he left office not because he couldn't contribute any more, but so he could become a lobbyist and make some serious money from his former position before new rules preventing it went into effect? Nah, that's irrelevant to the Family Values plank, right?

Ted Stevens? Do I need to elaborate?

I don't agree with Ben on a lot, but when you have Republicans preaching about "Values," and they show a complete lack of them, what's the point?

linusrichard · 11th March 2009, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

Bitterness is one thing.
This thread has a bad case of the self-righteousness
Y'know--the only "Perfect" man lived 2000 years ago, and he got nailed to a tree..

Eh, a guy who blasted a fig tree because it wouldn't bear figs out of season sounds more like Homer Simpson with superpowers than a "perfect man"...

YMMV

Policenaut · 11th March 2009, 08:12 PM

This isn't news. Why does anyone care what these two geniuses do with their lives?

TraneWreck · 11th March 2009, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Whiplash

So you feel it's fair to indict the entire party, and all conservative "family values", on the actions of one young adult female who was raised in those values, but has made a decision for herself that goes against those values?

Does she speak for the whole party and all tradition just because her mother ran for VP? Should not this young lady have the right to make her own decision? Even one that her parents and "family values" types may think was wrong? This one girl suddenly destroys it all?

I would say they simply failed to instill those values in their daughter.

Nope. It's her, Limbaugh, Newt, Hastert, O'Reilly, the gay-meth preacher, the gay prostitute reporter, Larry Craig, Guiliani, Reagan, and all the other endless hypocritical perverts that sanctimoniously chastise others for the same lewd behavior they crave and engage in without the slightest shame.

NobbyNobbs · 11th March 2009, 08:25 PM

I'm shocked, I tell you. Simply shocked.

Somebody fetch the smelling salts.

[/sarcasm]

linusrichard · 11th March 2009, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by TraneWreck

Nope. It's her, Limbaugh, Newt, Hastert, O'Reilly, the gay-meth preacher, the gay prostitute reporter, Larry Craig, Guiliani, Reagan, and all the other endless hypocritical perverts that sanctimoniously chastise others for the same lewd behavior they crave and engage in without the slightest shame.

Bob Allen, Glenn Murphy, Galen Fox, Jim West, Jack Ryan, Don Sherwood...

the list goes on and on and on. And that's just the perverts!

MattusMaximus · 11th March 2009, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Edges

Is anyone actually surprised by this?

Nope. Most kids in the same situation wouldn't be able to stick it out, either.

Damn shame.

MattusMaximus · 11th March 2009, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by TraneWreck

Nope. It's her, Limbaugh, Newt, Hastert, O'Reilly, the gay-meth preacher, the gay prostitute reporter, Larry Craig, Guiliani, Reagan, and all the other endless hypocritical perverts that sanctimoniously chastise others for the same lewd behavior they crave and engage in without the slightest shame.

Porn in the USA: Conservatives Are Biggest Consumers
8 of Top 10 Porn-Consuming States Voted Republican in 2008 Presidential Election

Quote:

Americans may paint themselves in increasingly bright shades of red and blue, but new research finds one thing that varies little across the nation: the liking for online pornography. ...

... However, there are some trends to be seen in the data. Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds.

Oh, the irony

Steelmage · 11th March 2009, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Whiplash

So you feel it's fair to indict the entire party, and all conservative "family values", on the actions of one young adult female who was raised in those values, but has made a decision for herself that goes against those values?

Does she speak for the whole party and all tradition just because her mother ran for VP? Should not this young lady have the right to make her own decision? Even one that her parents and "family values" types may think was wrong? This one girl suddenly destroys it all?

I would say they simply failed to instill those values in their daughter.

Yes, it's a lot more fun that way. But seriously, a lot of the conservatives that speak the loudest seems to me in my opinion to have a attitude of "do way I say not as I do".

GreNME · 11th March 2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Policenaut

This isn't news. Why does anyone care what these two geniuses do with their lives?

Because they're supposed to be representative of the "Real America." It's true, because one of the most recent candidates for the second-highest political positions in the United States government said so.

Think it's no big deal? That's probably the cognitive dissonance talking.

ImaginalDisc · 11th March 2009, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by rwguinn

Bitterness is one thing.
This thread has a bad case of the self-righteousness
Y'know--the only "Perfect" man lived 2000 years ago, and he got nailed to a tree..

He was hung like this? *Holds arms wide*

Policenaut · 11th March 2009, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by GreNME

Because they're supposed to be representative of the "Real America." It's true, because one of the most recent candidates for the second-highest political positions in the United States government said so.

And I should care what a failed VP candidate said on the campaign trail? Yea she's a hypocrite. Most politicians are. This isn't news to me.

ImaginalDisc · 11th March 2009, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Policenaut

And I should care what a failed VP candidate said on the campaign trail? Yea she's a hypocrite. Most politicians are. This isn't news to me.

Hyprocrite, the governor of Alaska, the state which collects oil revenue and redistributes that wealth to its citizens, who derided Obama for allegedly being socialist? Egads!

Roadtoad · 11th March 2009, 10:25 PM

Truth to tell, this whole thing is a yawner. Bristol Palin ain't getting married to the guy she insisted on having a baby with? Okay. She's two for two. She continues to be stupid. She probably won't bother to finish high school. Nor will she likely become employable. If I had to guess, she'll bat a thousand right up until the crumb-cruncher becomes a high school dropout him/herself.

Wish I could be more positive about this, but your kids are more likely to do what you do than they are to do what you say.

UnrepentantSinner · 11th March 2009, 10:34 PM

I guess this is a reflextion of what "Real America"^TM is like.

I concur with those who feel sorry for the kid.

DC · 12th March 2009, 03:05 AM

Sarah Palin's daughter is calling off wedding!!!!

OMG!!!!111!!!!

who cares?

im just happy my parents arent famous or well known. Must suck to have no privacy and every crap you do goes true the worlds media.....

Flo · 12th March 2009, 03:49 AM

Let it rest. It's none of our business, it's those people's private life.

The poor kids have been used by their parents, their parent's political party, and now their parent's political party's ennemies. Let it rest !

Alt+F4 · 12th March 2009, 06:28 AM

I blame it on gay marriage.

JimBenArm · 12th March 2009, 06:45 AM

This is what truly disgusts me about politics anymore. The fact that Ms. Palin may be hurting for her daughter's pain doesn't enter into anyone's thoughts on this. Whether or not she was ready to be the Vice President doesn't matter. Whether or not you agree with her politically doesn't matter. Taking glee in her suffering is, in my opinion, sickening. Yes, she's a Republican. She's also a human being, and a mother.

People can't just disagree on things political anymore. Their opponent has to be made into a cartoon, grossly distorted, so they can project all their hate onto them, and feel good about doing it. This isn't a right/left thing, either. Both sides are guilty of it in equal measure. Both Clintons have been made into buffoons by conservatives. Palin, Bush, et al, made into boogie men by liberals. On and on it goes.

Here's an idea. Rather than take glee in this, how about thinking about the very real people behind this, and maybe taking a moment to reflect on how you would feel if it was your daughter in this? Would she deserve to be put through it? Would you like having every conservative in the world knowing about it, and rubbing your nose in it, 24/7?

Full disclosure: I have three grown daughters. None of whom are pregnant at the moment.

WildCat · 12th March 2009, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by ImaginalDisc

Hyprocrite, the governor of Alaska, the state which collects oil revenue and redistributes that wealth to its citizens, who derided Obama for allegedly being socialist? Egads!

Oh look, you still don't know what socialism is!

Let me know when Alaska seizes the equipment of the oil companies operating there and starts up "Alaska State Oil".

coalesce · 12th March 2009, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by JimBenArm

This is what truly disgusts me about politics anymore. The fact that Ms. Palin may be hurting for her daughter's pain doesn't enter into anyone's thoughts on this. Whether or not she was ready to be the Vice President doesn't matter. Whether or not you agree with her politically doesn't matter. Taking glee in her suffering is, in my opinion, sickening. Yes, she's a Republican. She's also a human being, and a mother.

People can't just disagree on things political anymore. Their opponent has to be made into a cartoon, grossly distorted, so they can project all their hate onto them, and feel good about doing it. This isn't a right/left thing, either. Both sides are guilty of it in equal measure. Both Clintons have been made into buffoons by conservatives. Palin, Bush, et al, made into boogie men by liberals. On and on it goes.

Here's an idea. Rather than take glee in this, how about thinking about the very real people behind this, and maybe taking a moment to reflect on how you would feel if it was your daughter in this? Would she deserve to be put through it? Would you like having every conservative in the world knowing about it, and rubbing your nose in it, 24/7?

Full disclosure: I have three grown daughters. None of whom are pregnant at the moment.

I agree 100% with you in that it's a problem on both sides of the aisle. The only reason why I take a little pleasure in seeing the faults of conservatives is that they sell themselves as the party of family values and such. So when the oft-divorced, (hopefully) recovering substance-abuser Rush Limbaugh starts to lecture people about how to live, or when Larry Craig has his attacks of restless leg syndrome in men's restrooms, well, it's kind of hard for me not to smile a bit inside that I don't take my cue on how I should conduct my life from either politicians, athletes or entertainers.

Michael

11th March 2009, 06:09 PM	#1
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	Sarah Palin's daughter is calling off wedding!!!! I just heard this on the news!! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090312/...ristol_palin_4 I guess...no VP?...No ring from baby daddy.

11th March 2009, 06:19 PM	#2
quixotecoyote Howling to glory I go Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,621	One question: Did this really deserve four exclamation points in the title and another two in the opening line?
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11th March 2009, 06:25 PM	#3
hgc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,998	He just slipped the noose of the mother-in-law from Hell. Not that his own mother is any prize, of course (unless you prize Meth dealers). Come to think of it, these are two high school dropouts who are each better off without the other. I feel bad for the kid.
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11th March 2009, 06:27 PM	#4
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11th March 2009, 06:29 PM	#5
GreNME Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 8,283	Originally Posted by The Article Johnston, 19, told The Associated Press that he and 18-year-old Bristol Palin mutually decided "a while ago" to end their relationship. He declined to elaborate as he stood outside his family's home in Wasilla, about 40 miles north of Anchorage. My guess is that "a while ago" was probably some time around November 6th.
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11th March 2009, 06:29 PM	#6
Monketey Ghost Body of Work Join Date: May 2003 Location: I'm on your screen! Posts: 14,806	Nobody cares... that kid was never gonna be Alaskan royalty anyways. Another also-ran.
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11th March 2009, 06:32 PM	#7
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	Originally Posted by quixotecoyote One question: Did this really deserve four exclamation points in the title and another two in the opening line? Yes!!!! Of course!!!!!

11th March 2009, 06:41 PM	#8
TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,414	I did feel bad for that kid, talk about getting railroaded into mairrage. Plus, he's got at least three or four trailer park chicks to get pregnant before the meth robs him of his rogueish good looks. You don't want to lose one of your prime poon-hunting years when you're going to be unemployed and burnt out at 25...

11th March 2009, 07:12 PM	#9
rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 8,416	Bitterness is one thing. This thread has a bad case of the self-righteousness Y'know--the only "Perfect" man lived 2000 years ago, and he got nailed to a tree..
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11th March 2009, 07:25 PM	#10
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 26,557	Well I suppose that adds further evidence that the marrage proposal was mostly a PR thing. Teenage motherhood and the poltical spotlight are an unfortunate combination.

11th March 2009, 07:28 PM	#11
gdnp useless idiot Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey-You gotta problem wit dat? Posts: 4,999	Would you want Sarah Palin as a mother in law?

11th March 2009, 07:34 PM	#12
GreNME Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 8,283	Originally Posted by rwguinn Bitterness is one thing. This thread has a bad case of the self-righteousness Y'know--the only "Perfect" man lived 2000 years ago, and he got nailed to a tree.. Are you serious? Because if so, you're wrong. My grandpa wasn't that old.
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11th March 2009, 07:34 PM	#13
hgc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,998	Originally Posted by gdnp Would you want Sarah Palin as a mother in law? Just picture youself as a turkey. And I don't mean the one that got pardoned.
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11th March 2009, 07:38 PM	#14
rwguinn Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 16 miles from 7 lakes Posts: 8,416	Originally Posted by GreNME Are you serious? Because if so, you're wrong. My grandpa wasn't that old. Nor was mine--but he did have a freckle...
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11th March 2009, 07:44 PM	#15
GreNME Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 8,283	Oh, I don't think I want to know where it was.
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11th March 2009, 07:52 PM	#16
Whiplash Acting like a maniac Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Shipwrecked and Comatose Posts: 5,389	Originally Posted by BenBurch More Republican Family Values... So you feel it's fair to indict the entire party, and all conservative "family values", on the actions of one young adult female who was raised in those values, but has made a decision for herself that goes against those values? Does she speak for the whole party and all tradition just because her mother ran for VP? Should not this young lady have the right to make her own decision? Even one that her parents and "family values" types may think was wrong? This one girl suddenly destroys it all? I would say they simply failed to instill those values in their daughter.
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11th March 2009, 07:54 PM	#17
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 26,557	Originally Posted by Whiplash So you feel it's fair to indict the entire party, and all conservative "family values", on the actions of one young adult female who was raised in those values, but has made a decision for herself that goes against those values? Does she speak for the whole party and all tradition just because her mother ran for VP? Should not this young lady have the right to make her own decision? Even one that her parents and "family values" types may think was wrong? This one girl suddenly destroys it all? I would say they simply failed to instill those values in their daughter. They may well have instilled them marrage requires both parties to agree. In adition it could be argued that the values that required an overhasty push towards marrage to limit political damage have been shown to be problem in this case.

11th March 2009, 07:58 PM	#18
Edges Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 279	Is anyone actually surprised by this?

11th March 2009, 08:03 PM	#19
gdnp useless idiot Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey-You gotta problem wit dat? Posts: 4,999	Originally Posted by geni They may well have instilled them marrage requires both parties to agree. In adition it could be argued that the values that required an overhasty push towards marrage to limit political damage have been shown to be problem in this case. If the marriage was going to happen, it would have happened last fall before the baby was born. When they didn't marry before the election, I thought it was pretty unlikely that it would ever happen. I'm afraid no MDC for this psychic prediction, however.

11th March 2009, 08:03 PM	#20
Roadtoad Bufo Caminus Inedibilis Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Gone. Posts: 15,738	Originally Posted by Whiplash So you feel it's fair to indict the entire party, and all conservative "family values", on the actions of one young adult female who was raised in those values, but has made a decision for herself that goes against those values? Does she speak for the whole party and all tradition just because her mother ran for VP? Should not this young lady have the right to make her own decision? Even one that her parents and "family values" types may think was wrong? This one girl suddenly destroys it all? I would say they simply failed to instill those values in their daughter. I think the point Ben was trying to make was that for all Sarah Palin's preaching (and yes, that's the word) about "Family Values," "Faith," and "Integrity," we've seen little of it from her, or for that matter, far too many members of the Republican Party. Let's see: Bob Packwood, the Senator from Oregon was also known as the "Capitol Groper" for his behavior at the Capitol, as well as his trite diary which showed us that he was far more concerned with how to brush his hair to get the right "poof" in it, even as he was being forced out for his lack of ethics. Should we mention Trent Lott's gaffe, saying it was too bad that Strom Thurmond, who openly supported Segregation, never made it to the Oval Office? Or the fact that he left office not because he couldn't contribute any more, but so he could become a lobbyist and make some serious money from his former position before new rules preventing it went into effect? Nah, that's irrelevant to the Family Values plank, right? Ted Stevens? Do I need to elaborate? I don't agree with Ben on a lot, but when you have Republicans preaching about "Values," and they show a complete lack of them, what's the point?

11th March 2009, 08:05 PM	#21
linusrichard Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lansing, Mich. Posts: 2,664	Originally Posted by rwguinn Bitterness is one thing. This thread has a bad case of the self-righteousness Y'know--the only "Perfect" man lived 2000 years ago, and he got nailed to a tree.. Eh, a guy who blasted a fig tree because it wouldn't bear figs out of season sounds more like Homer Simpson with superpowers than a "perfect man"... YMMV

11th March 2009, 08:12 PM	#22
Policenaut Infidel Defiler Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Shadow Moses Island Posts: 2,193	This isn't news. Why does anyone care what these two geniuses do with their lives?

11th March 2009, 08:19 PM	#23
TraneWreck Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,414	Originally Posted by Whiplash So you feel it's fair to indict the entire party, and all conservative "family values", on the actions of one young adult female who was raised in those values, but has made a decision for herself that goes against those values? Does she speak for the whole party and all tradition just because her mother ran for VP? Should not this young lady have the right to make her own decision? Even one that her parents and "family values" types may think was wrong? This one girl suddenly destroys it all? I would say they simply failed to instill those values in their daughter. Nope. It's her, Limbaugh, Newt, Hastert, O'Reilly, the gay-meth preacher, the gay prostitute reporter, Larry Craig, Guiliani, Reagan, and all the other endless hypocritical perverts that sanctimoniously chastise others for the same lewd behavior they crave and engage in without the slightest shame.

11th March 2009, 08:25 PM	#24
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11th March 2009, 08:28 PM	#25
linusrichard Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lansing, Mich. Posts: 2,664	Originally Posted by TraneWreck Nope. It's her, Limbaugh, Newt, Hastert, O'Reilly, the gay-meth preacher, the gay prostitute reporter, Larry Craig, Guiliani, Reagan, and all the other endless hypocritical perverts that sanctimoniously chastise others for the same lewd behavior they crave and engage in without the slightest shame. Bob Allen, Glenn Murphy, Galen Fox, Jim West, Jack Ryan, Don Sherwood... the list goes on and on and on. And that's just the perverts!

11th March 2009, 08:58 PM	#26
MattusMaximus Intellectual Gladiator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the midst of a vast, beautiful & uncaring universe Posts: 14,175	Originally Posted by Edges Is anyone actually surprised by this? Nope. Most kids in the same situation wouldn't be able to stick it out, either. Damn shame.
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11th March 2009, 09:02 PM	#27
MattusMaximus Intellectual Gladiator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the midst of a vast, beautiful & uncaring universe Posts: 14,175	Originally Posted by TraneWreck Nope. It's her, Limbaugh, Newt, Hastert, O'Reilly, the gay-meth preacher, the gay prostitute reporter, Larry Craig, Guiliani, Reagan, and all the other endless hypocritical perverts that sanctimoniously chastise others for the same lewd behavior they crave and engage in without the slightest shame. Porn in the USA: Conservatives Are Biggest Consumers 8 of Top 10 Porn-Consuming States Voted Republican in 2008 Presidential Election Quote: Americans may paint themselves in increasingly bright shades of red and blue, but new research finds one thing that varies little across the nation: the liking for online pornography. ... ... However, there are some trends to be seen in the data. Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds. Oh, the irony
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11th March 2009, 09:11 PM	#28
Steelmage Muse Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 630	Originally Posted by Whiplash So you feel it's fair to indict the entire party, and all conservative "family values", on the actions of one young adult female who was raised in those values, but has made a decision for herself that goes against those values? Does she speak for the whole party and all tradition just because her mother ran for VP? Should not this young lady have the right to make her own decision? Even one that her parents and "family values" types may think was wrong? This one girl suddenly destroys it all? I would say they simply failed to instill those values in their daughter. Yes, it's a lot more fun that way. But seriously, a lot of the conservatives that speak the loudest seems to me in my opinion to have a attitude of "do way I say not as I do".
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11th March 2009, 09:49 PM	#29
GreNME Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 8,283	Originally Posted by Policenaut This isn't news. Why does anyone care what these two geniuses do with their lives? Because they're supposed to be representative of the "Real America." It's true, because one of the most recent candidates for the second-highest political positions in the United States government said so. Think it's no big deal? That's probably the cognitive dissonance talking.
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11th March 2009, 10:09 PM	#30
ImaginalDisc Proactive Untwister of Octagonal Hippopotamus Pants Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 10,225	Originally Posted by rwguinn Bitterness is one thing. This thread has a bad case of the self-righteousness Y'know--the only "Perfect" man lived 2000 years ago, and he got nailed to a tree.. He was hung like this? Holds arms wide
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11th March 2009, 10:19 PM	#31
Policenaut Infidel Defiler Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Shadow Moses Island Posts: 2,193	Originally Posted by GreNME Because they're supposed to be representative of the "Real America." It's true, because one of the most recent candidates for the second-highest political positions in the United States government said so. And I should care what a failed VP candidate said on the campaign trail? Yea she's a hypocrite. Most politicians are. This isn't news to me.

11th March 2009, 10:23 PM	#32
ImaginalDisc Proactive Untwister of Octagonal Hippopotamus Pants Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 10,225	Originally Posted by Policenaut And I should care what a failed VP candidate said on the campaign trail? Yea she's a hypocrite. Most politicians are. This isn't news to me. Hyprocrite, the governor of Alaska, the state which collects oil revenue and redistributes that wealth to its citizens, who derided Obama for allegedly being socialist? Egads!
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11th March 2009, 10:25 PM	#33
Roadtoad Bufo Caminus Inedibilis Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Gone. Posts: 15,738	Truth to tell, this whole thing is a yawner. Bristol Palin ain't getting married to the guy she insisted on having a baby with? Okay. She's two for two. She continues to be stupid. She probably won't bother to finish high school. Nor will she likely become employable. If I had to guess, she'll bat a thousand right up until the crumb-cruncher becomes a high school dropout him/herself. Wish I could be more positive about this, but your kids are more likely to do what you do than they are to do what you say.

11th March 2009, 10:34 PM	#34
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 26,353	I guess this is a reflextion of what "Real America"^TM is like. I concur with those who feel sorry for the kid.
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12th March 2009, 03:05 AM	#35
DC dedicated aphilatelist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 21,646	Sarah Palin's daughter is calling off wedding!!!! OMG!!!!111!!!! who cares? im just happy my parents arent famous or well known. Must suck to have no privacy and every crap you do goes true the worlds media.....
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