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...but not JUST a LibraryLady
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okay, I'm succumbing
I'm tired not not getting all the Pratchett jokes and references, so I have consulted with our Young Adult librarian who is looking up the title of the first Disc World book and I will borrow it today.
I blame you all if I hate it. So there. |
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What would Hüsker Dü? I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about. Mildred Loving |
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You won't !!
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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You should also blame everyone here when you become hopelessly addicted.
![]() Seriously though, I wasn't particularly fond of the first or even second books. For some reason I kept going, and eventually made it into the really good ones. It's not necessary to read the in order, although some will make more sense if they follow others in the same general story line. But IMO you could easily start with the third book and not miss out on anything. |
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Remember that the first two books are a little different from the others. They are still good, but for me it really takes of with 'Equal Rites', introducing the witches and 'Mort' where Death get's His first Star role. From then on they get better and better.
Happy reading.. I am so jealous. Discovering this world has been one of my best experiences in life, for me about 15 years ago now. |
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"Instead of controlling the environment for the benefit of the population, maybe we should control the population to ensure the survival of our environment." Sir David Attenborough. |
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While Pratchett first few books are funny, they are not nearly as good as some of his later ones. His ability to tell a more complex stories has improved with time.
My point is that if you find the first few books, say, not as good as you expected, please come back again and ask us for a few recommendations. |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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There are tons of books listed on his website. Is there a chronological list for the different series? Or is there a way to tell which are stand-alone novels?
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I once struck up a conversation with a pretty girl who immediately bored me with blather about Pratchett and his 'dystopian' creations... she used the word excessively and annoyingly... she turned me off to trying something that might otherwise have interested me someday. If you do succumb, give me the short version.
Hopefully, for the sake of your reading experience, that short version isn't, "It's boring." |
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The membership of this forum is henceforth to refer to me as potato-headed Bobby SSKCAS, member in long standing |
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Dystopian? They are hilarious. This confuses me
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Muse
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All are stand alone, but some main character reappear in following books: Basically you have few lines.
The City Watch (my favourite) order to read: Guards! Guards! - Men at Arms - Feet of Clay - Jingo - Fifth Elephant - Night Watch Rincewind order to read Color of Magic - the Light Fantastic - Sourcery - Death order to read Mort- Reaper Man - Soul Music - Hogfather Witches order to read Equal Rites - Wyrd Sisters - Witches Abroad - Lords and Ladies - Maskerade - Carpe Jugelum Random (still excellent) Pyramids - Moving Pictures - the Truth I recommend you read them in chronical order because Discworlds is a very rich world and you will be picking up details in every book. and if you really like a certain group of characters you will know you will be meeting them again some day, but you might not know where or when. |
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"Instead of controlling the environment for the benefit of the population, maybe we should control the population to ensure the survival of our environment." Sir David Attenborough. |
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And don't miss out on Good Omens (Pratchett and Gaiman) just because it is not Discworld...
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I am one of those who loves each and every Discworld novel AND Good Omens, which is not set in Discworld.
Don't let them put you off the first novels. The Luggage alone is worth the price of admission. |
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Well, this is terrible. I went to his Web site and found:
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What would Hüsker Dü? I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about. Mildred Loving |
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yes
. He is being amazing about it though. He is participating in research and stuff. It is quite inspiring how he talks about it actually |
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The Colour of Magic is the "first" book, each book is really stand alone.
I second the Good Omens recommendation. |
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I'm going to read the Color of Magic first and then I'll be open for recommendations.
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What would Hüsker Dü? I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about. Mildred Loving |
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His young adult novels (is that what they're calling what used to be juvenile novels?) set in the Discworld also form their own series, with a subset of characters that don't appear in other books (IIRC):
The Amazing Maurice And His Educated Rodents The Wee Free Men A Hat Full Of Sky Wintersmith I'd like to also put in a recommendation for the products at www.DiscworldEmporium.com. Their Discworld Stamps have really taken off, co-designed with Terry I think. Lots of good signed stuff at http://www.paulkidby.com/ as well. |
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I read "Witches Abroad," first (and so far only). It was funny enough. I would read more if they fell into my hands (which they haven't, but I'm sure they will).
Enjoy! |
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I love the Nac Mac Feegle books
![]() The first books were very good and it's only in light of the superlative quality of his later work that makes them seem less so. Personally I think some of his recent stuff has been amongst the finest work I've ever read; philosophically and otherwise. Good Omens is a must-read. I have to put my weight behind 'Nation' though - it's not Discworld, but it is a marvellous piece of work. |
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I suggest you read them in the order they were released(even though it doesn't make a huge difference).
Still here is a reading guide http://www.lspace.org/books/reading-...-guide-1-5.jpg |
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Don´t forget roundworld.
The comparisons between magic, storytelling and science is priceless. |
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A friend just loaned me two Pratchett books. I read "Guards! Guards!" first. I thought it was VERY funny. "Men at Arms" is on the coffee table. I'm looking forward to it.
He mentioned Pratchett after I had said a few things about Tom Sharpe, who is another very funny (IMO) British writer. I highly recommend "Wilt" and "The Throwback." (Sharpe is not fantasy.) |
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I now have The Color of Magic checked out and will be taking it home tonight.
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What would Hüsker Dü? I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about. Mildred Loving |
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* Alareth steps up to the podium and taps the microphone Hello. My name is Mark, I'm 38 years old and I've never read anything by Terry Pratchett. |
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Pixelated Reality | Alareth Does Art! Light travels faster than sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak |
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BookishBabe -- Do keep in mind that "The Colour of Magick" is, in part, built on satirizing other sf/fanatsy traditions and books--a trend that he discontinued shortly thereafter. Like many others, I agree that the first two are not quite as good as the others, since Sir Terry was finding his stride as a writer.
Alareth -- It's alright. You don't need the meeting. Those of us who have to come to terms with the notion that We'll Never Have Another Discworld Book, do. We're the ones who will go through withdrawal. But, better to have loved and lost, etc. If you want to get some of the flavor, I suggest "Pyramids", which is more-or-less a stand alone book in the same world as the others--and includes the Disc's Greatest Mathematician, a fabulous character. You other Pratchet-heads, I highly recommend, "Once More...with footnotes" which you can order from England. Also, the new book "Nation" is simply excellent, one of his best ever. And I personally enjoyed the "Bromeliad" trilogy very much. Don't let me detain you, Miss Kitt |
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It's much better to live an honest life than a delusional one -- desertgal Magic thinking is a lead personal floatation device. It looks really reassuring, but it will drag you down--whatthebutlersaw |
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"Instead of controlling the environment for the benefit of the population, maybe we should control the population to ensure the survival of our environment." Sir David Attenborough. |
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You probably will. He didn't really hit his stride until his fourth book or so.
If you want a good introduction, I would recommend Guards! Guards! and the followups Men at Arms and Feet of Clay. If you still don't like it after that, you're just not cut out for Pratchett. |
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Considering your profoession, I highly reccomend that you learn how to tell the difference between a monkey and an ape before entering the disc. You don't want to learn the hard way after entereing
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When people ask me for a quick description of Terry Pratchett's work, I generally tell them he writes what Douglas Adams would have if Adams wrote fantasy instead of science fiction.
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Additions to the above list of 'series' - I know the point isn't to be exhaustive, but some of my favourites weren't listed
![]() Moist von Lipwig (some nice touches in here) order to read: Going Postal - Making Money No series as such Monstrous Regiment, Small Gods (one of my all-time favourites), Thief of Time and in passing - doesn't 'Thud' fit into the City Watch series? |
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"Terry Pratchett!"
"What Terry Pratchett?" |
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Yes, in fact it is one of the very best, but also the one I haven't read 5 times over yet as it is relatively new, maybe that is why I forgot it. I usually reread them every 3 years. I still learn new things, for example the last time I learned the meaning of 'Lacrimosa' when I saw it on a Mozart album. Before that I only knew it as the funny sounding name of a certain female vampire, but I should have known better.
As for people who are not into Discworld. I am glad you people exists, we need somebody to run the world. |
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That would be my recommendation as well. People have various favourites, but if you don't like Guards! Guards! I have a hard time believing you'll like any Pratchett.
Personally I've read nearly everything. (I think there's a book about cats I haven't read, and I haven't read the original illustrated |
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Ah!
Another one who hasn't read them. For the rest of us who have, there is a rather large collection of annotations, downloadable here: http://www.lspace.org/books/apf/. Enjoy! |
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If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 1918-2008
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WHAT CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR, IF NOT THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN? - Death "Racism is a disease in society. We're all equal. I don't care what their colour is, or religion. Just as long as they're human beings they're my buddies." - Mandawuy Yunupingu, lead singer of Yothu Yindi |
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