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Old 18th March 2009, 05:22 PM   #1
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Obama and the Teleprompter

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...epeats-speech/

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Obama Thanks Himself, Irish PM Repeats Speech in Teleprompter Meltdown

March 18, 2009

WASHINGTON -- Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen was just a few paragraphs into an address at a St. Patrick's Day celebration at the White House when he realized something sounded way too familiar. Turns out, he was repeating the speech President Barack Obama had just given.

... snip ...
But Cowen was 20 seconds into his second address when it dawned on him that he was giving word for word the speech that Obama had just read from the same teleprompter.

Cowen stopped and looked back at the president to say, "That's your speech."

Obama laughed and returned to the podium to offer what might have been Cowen's remarks. In doing so, President Obama thanked President Obama for inviting everyone over.

Earlier, the president claimed an Irish ancestry to Ireland's leader and joked to Congress that his genealogy could have helped him as a once-unknown Chicago politician.
Now if Bush had done that, what would democrats be saying? Why they'd be insulting his intelligence, of course. And they'd be replaying the gaff over and over and over and over on the mainstream *news* shows. Say, have any of you seen the mainstream news networks show, much less mention, this blunder (other than Fox)? Did Jay Leno mention it in his monologue ... or was he too busy worshiping Obama? Has SNL done a skit yet lampooning the President over this?

Come on democrats ... admit it ... this is funny (and a little scary):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hSnE...layer_embedded
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Old 18th March 2009, 05:26 PM   #2
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So he's just another boob. Didn't we all know that already?
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Old 18th March 2009, 05:47 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by balrog666 View Post
So he's just another boob. Didn't we all know that already?

Well apparently, some people don't:

http://theobamaforum.com/showthread.php?t=2612&page=2 "Obama clearly the smartest president in recent history"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCV9ZoV--BY "this is a guy whose IQ is off the charts ... he's probably the smartest guy ever to become President."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/0...ing/index.html "he certainly is the smartest guy we've had there that I can remember."

http://www.theinsider.com/photos/145...less_In_Hawaii "Obama is the cutest ant smartest President ever to take office. He is incredibly popular with the American public. The only people who don't like him are ultra-right wing extremists and that's understandable because they are retarded like Sarah Palin."


http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...9-d6cfc79bd697 "Obama is by far the smartest president we've had in a while"

http://randeepramesh.blogspot.com/20...president.html "Apart from race, the most important thing about the new president is that it marks the return of the Intellectual in Office. Obama is smart."

http://blog.seattlepi.com/davidhorse...ves/161637.asp "no one can argue that he's not a hell of a lot more mentally nimble than many of his predecessors."

http://yaforobama.ning.com/profiles/...th-being-smart "ots of my friends can drink beer, and not one of them could get us out of this financial crisis or the trouble in Iraq. That’s why I want the smartest person in the room to be my president. And Senator Barack Obama is the smartest person in the room right now."

http://www.zazzle.com/obama_this_tim...77253675480140

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the...eet_focus.html "He's by far the smartest president we've ever had and as such we should trust his judgement."

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Old 18th March 2009, 06:27 PM   #4
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I hope there's video. You've got to admit though, he's a real genius with the teleprompter.

Hope and Change, says it right there on the 'promter.
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Old 18th March 2009, 07:11 PM   #5
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.... You started a thread over this?
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If this is the best BAC can come up with...
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Old 18th March 2009, 11:59 PM   #8
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I see the "down with Obama" jihad continues.
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Old 19th March 2009, 12:15 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by BeAChooser View Post
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...epeats-speech/



Now if Bush had done that, what would democrats be saying? Why they'd be insulting his intelligence, of course. And they'd be replaying the gaff over and over and over and over on the mainstream *news* shows. Say, have any of you seen the mainstream news networks show, much less mention, this blunder (other than Fox)? Did Jay Leno mention it in his monologue ... or was he too busy worshiping Obama? Has SNL done a skit yet lampooning the President over this?

Come on democrats ... admit it ... this is funny (and a little scary):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hSnE...layer_embedded
Or... Obama was making a joke.... Oooo! Would it be better if he said "...Well..." instead of "um"?

Oh! better yet! Why would SNL lampoon the president on Wednesday?
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Old 19th March 2009, 01:45 AM   #10
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At least you have a president who can read from a teleprompter.
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Old 19th March 2009, 02:09 AM   #11
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Ooooo. So this is what desperation sounds like.

I always figured it would be accompanied by a Glen Beck monologue.
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Old 19th March 2009, 02:30 AM   #12
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Ooooo. So this is what desperation sounds like.

I always figured it would be accompanied by a Glen Beck monologue.
*sniff* I'm sorry... it's just... *cry* I love this country.
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Old 19th March 2009, 03:11 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by BeAChooser View Post
Well apparently, some people don't:

http://theobamaforum.com/showthread.php?t=2612&page=2 "Obama clearly the smartest president in recent history"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCV9ZoV--BY "this is a guy whose IQ is off the charts ... he's probably the smartest guy ever to become President."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/0...ing/index.html "he certainly is the smartest guy we've had there that I can remember."

http://www.theinsider.com/photos/145...less_In_Hawaii "Obama is the cutest ant smartest President ever to take office. He is incredibly popular with the American public. The only people who don't like him are ultra-right wing extremists and that's understandable because they are retarded like Sarah Palin."


http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...9-d6cfc79bd697 "Obama is by far the smartest president we've had in a while"

http://randeepramesh.blogspot.com/20...president.html "Apart from race, the most important thing about the new president is that it marks the return of the Intellectual in Office. Obama is smart."

http://blog.seattlepi.com/davidhorse...ves/161637.asp "no one can argue that he's not a hell of a lot more mentally nimble than many of his predecessors."

http://yaforobama.ning.com/profiles/...th-being-smart "ots of my friends can drink beer, and not one of them could get us out of this financial crisis or the trouble in Iraq. That’s why I want the smartest person in the room to be my president. And Senator Barack Obama is the smartest person in the room right now."

http://www.zazzle.com/obama_this_tim...77253675480140

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the...eet_focus.html "He's by far the smartest president we've ever had and as such we should trust his judgement."
Seriously man, how long did this take you? A stray post on the ObamaForum for christsakes?

I'm guessing you would have considered it cheap and unfair if the left had lampooned Bush for this kind of mistake, as would I. Yet when it happens to Obama, it is fair game.
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Old 19th March 2009, 03:20 AM   #14
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Hey, hang on a minute! Reading the quote in the OP, the impression I got was that it was Cowen who made the gaffe. He managed "several paragraphs" of a speech that not only wasn't the one he was supposed to be giving, but was in fact the one he'd just listened to, before realising his mistake. This is absolutely terrible. It suggests Cowen is in the habit of standing up and reading anything that's put in front of him, with no thought and no preparation. If I was Irish, I'd be beating my head against the wall right now.

But I totally don't see what Obama is supposed to have done wrong. He'd already given his speech, the right one. It says so right there. That's how Cowen finally realised his mistake - he realised he was repeating what Obama had just said.

Then what? Remember the story about one of the British royal family and the fingerbowl? A guest at a royal banquet didn't know what the finger bowl was for (it's for rinsing your fingers, rednecks!) and drank some water from it. The aristocracy were horrified at the ignorance of polite table manners. The king, however, picked up his own finger bowl and sipped some water from it. This is generally regarded as a shining example of savoir faire. [ETA: Trying to trace this story, I find it is regarded as apocryphal, possibly attributed to Queen Victoria, though I heard it told about one of the early 20th century kings.]

Obama seems to have done something very similar. He turned this appalling gaffe by Cowan into a joke, by pretending to deliver part of Cowan's speech, then thanking himself.

Obama is a class act, on this evidence.

Does the opening poster not realise this? From the quote he himself has posted?

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Originally Posted by BeAChooser View Post
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...epeats-speech/



Now if Bush had done that, what would democrats be saying? Why they'd be insulting his intelligence, of course. And they'd be replaying the gaff over and over and over and over on the mainstream *news* shows. Say, have any of you seen the mainstream news networks show, much less mention, this blunder (other than Fox)? Did Jay Leno mention it in his monologue ... or was he too busy worshiping Obama? Has SNL done a skit yet lampooning the President over this?

Come on democrats ... admit it ... this is funny (and a little scary):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hSnE...layer_embedded
I don't know about Bush, but your intelligence would be easy to insult, if it was anywhere to be found.

This is a FAIL of REO Speedwagon proportions...
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This is a FAIL of REO Speedwagon proportions...



Oh yes! [Wipes away tears of laughter.]

I just read the whole of the article quoted in the OP, but the quoted bits pretty much cover it. Brian Cowen made a horrible gaffe, and Obama defused the situation by turning it into a joke. The actual headline is a bit misleading, but the article itself is perfectly clear.

Obama is, as I said, a class act.

Following this, I just went to find other recent threads started by BeAChooser, in search of similar hilarity. I wasn't familiar with this poster before, but he never fails to amuse, it seems.

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With apologies to Bob Dylan, there are a few Anti-Barack who fit in real well along Desperation Row.

Guys, let him do something gaff-worthy before you throw out every little news tidbit. He's going to have a blunder or mistake here and there. And then you can have yourselves a blast, slapping your thighs and guffawing all morning. In the interim, you are just making yourselves look foolish.
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Hey, hang on a minute! Reading the quote in the OP, the impression I got was that it was Cowen who made the gaffe. He managed "several paragraphs" of a speech that not only wasn't the one he was supposed to be giving, but was in fact the one he'd just listened to, before realising his mistake.
That's right. Then Obama got up again and pretended to read part of Cowen's speech as a joke, thanking himself for inviting himself. It's not a mistake on his part. If anything, as you say, it suggests that Obama is quick witted enough to step in and minimise the embarrassment by making a joke out of it.

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This is absolutely terrible. It suggests Cowen is in the habit of standing up and reading anything that's put in front of him, with no thought and no preparation. If I was Irish, I'd be beating my head against the wall right now.
... I guess so. At least he realised and stopped, rather than just ploughing on regardless, which is something.

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Then what? Remember the story about one of the British royal family and the fingerbowl? A guest at a royal banquet didn't know what the finger bowl was for (it's for rinsing your fingers, rednecks!) and drank some water from it. The aristocracy were horrified at the ignorance of polite table manners. The king, however, picked up his own finger bowl and sipped some water from it. This is generally regarded as a shining example of savoir faire.
My favourite is one about Winston Churchill, who supposedly spotted the woman sitting next to him slip a silver ashtray into her handbag as a souvenir. He made sure she saw him slipping a silver salt cellar into his pocket, then said "Oh dear, I think the hostess saw us - we'd better put them back!"

Edit: No doubt if Obama tried something similar today it would be represented as "Obama is ignorant of table manners and makes off with the silverware"
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Rolfe,
I had the same reaction- until I realized that the OP thought that Obama was running the teleprompter.
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I thought maybe Obama was pulling a save, too, when I read this last night. But, I was waiting to see the video to know for sure how it went down.

The laughing is something of a give away, however.
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This is a classic. The first four posters apparently interpreted the whole incident as a gaffe on the part of Obama. One called him "... just another boob". So we have confirmation bias error and projection at the same time.
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This is a classic. The first four posters apparently interpreted the whole incident as a gaffe on the part of Obama. One called him "... just another boob". So we have confirmation bias error and projection at the same time.

It's not clear that anyone before Redtail's post (no. 9) realised that Obama had actually behaved like "an officer and a gentleman" in the face of a serious gaffe by a senior politician from a foreign country. Even after Redtail's laughing dog, the misinterpretation seems to be continuing, right up to post 13.

That's why I went back and read it twice, and then read the actual news report, just to check I wasn't missing anything.

But no. First impressions confirmed: Obama is a class act.

Other impressions confirmed: Balrog 666 posts according to his prejudices, rather than the evidence.

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With apologies to Bob Dylan, there are a few Anti-Barack who fit in real well along Desperation Row.
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The Taoiseach embarrasses himself, Obama has a bit of fun with it, and somehow, in BAC-land, this makes Obama look stupid?

There are times when I wish words could accurately convey my current facial expression, which could best be described as a mix of puzzlement, incredulity, amusement, and pity.
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It's not clear that anyone before Redtail's post (no. 9) realised that Obama had actually behaved like "an officer and a gentleman" in the face of a serious gaffe by a senior politician from a foreign country. Even after Redtail's laughing dog, the misinterpretation seems to be continuing, right up to post 13.

That's why I went back and read it twice, and then read the actual news report, just to check I wasn't missing anything.

But no. First impressions confirmed: Obama is a class act.

Other impressions confirmed: Balrog 666 posts according to his prejudices, rather than the evidence.

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i'd like to see the actual event, but what you said is exactly what my gut reaction was.

Remember, there's nothing in the OP claiming
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Following this, I just went to find other recent threads started by BeAChooser, in search of similar hilarity. I wasn't familiar with this poster before, but he never fails to amuse, it seems.
Ask him about Ron Brown and Vince Foster
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ever revisit these threads he starts?

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Yes. He's definitely presistent. He made a thread awhile ago claiming that OBama lied about the economy, when he said that it's the worst economic crisis since the great depression. Since then, when OBama's statement was provn true BeAChooser refused to admit error saying, "When Obama said that it wasn't bad...." BAC has a simple world view
Obama is bad. Truth doesn't matter.
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Uh, yeah. "Apologies to" generally means you're taking liberties with someone's work or lines.
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Old 19th March 2009, 06:45 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by Rolfe View Post
Does
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ever revisit these threads he starts?

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Generally, yes.(and revisits and revisits and revisits... sort of like the Energizer Bunny from the John Birch Society...)

But he usually at least has a single leg to stand on, and I can't see that for this one. He'll likely avoid this one.
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Old 19th March 2009, 06:52 AM   #31
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Hmmm. I'm having way too much fun with this. I don't suppose Balrog will comment either.

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Hmmm. I'm having way too much fun with this. I don't suppose Balrog will comment either.

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Sorry, Rolfe. No staying power, that one. Nor Kallsop. They're kind of hit-and-run posters and they've both pretty much exhausted their witty repartee, above.

(Who, me? Baiting?)
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Old 19th March 2009, 07:27 AM   #33
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...snip...

The laughing is something of a give away, however.
No the laughing also proves that Obama is a very, very bad man.

New Obama Policy: We will be giving everyone in the USA a gold dollar coin!

BeAChooser's thread: Obama passes law to force people to accept toxic metal into their home.
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No the laughing also proves that Obama is a very, very bad man.
Well, naturally. Obama giving a saucer of milk to a hungry kitten would also prove that he is a very, very bad man.

...and a commie.

...and possibly Kenyan.


But I'd still like to see the video before passing judgement.
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This is hilarious... simply tasty. Weak, ill-informed attempt at mocking turns stoopid. HA!
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aslong he does not "misstakenly" belive some foreignt country has stock piles of WMD's i could forgive him this minor misstake..... well if he atleast was misstaken, but he wasnt...
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how did you survive the last 8 years????
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Originally Posted by Rolfe View Post
Obama seems to have done something very similar. He turned this appalling gaffe by Cowan into a joke, by pretending to deliver part of Cowan's speech, then thanking himself.

Obama is a class act, on this evidence.

Does the opening poster not realise this? From the quote he himself has posted?

I think this may be relevant:
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Somewhere in the CT forum someone said that CTers don't have any sense of humour. They attributed this to the fact that seeing the funny side of something requires being able to work out how things would normally relate, and then seeing the humour in the incongruous relationship made in the joke. Not actually being able to make any logical connections in the first place rather puts a crimp in all this.
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Being as dumb as a stump could also contribute to that.
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Yeah, the OP makes only one person look dumb... And it isn't the President or the Irish Prime Minister.
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