I Smell a Rat

Jeff Corey · 20th November 2003, 04:05 PM

As in barratry, in these recent charges against Elvis's son-in-law.
Anyone with deep pockets can be set up, especially if you run a neverland and act stupidly in public.

Iamme · 20th November 2003, 04:22 PM

Jeff---Hi. EX-son in law...that he never knew he would have had.

Hear that he turned himself in today?

Bentspoon · 20th November 2003, 04:52 PM

This smells bad. I love the credibility line. This family is not after money ,..........

the truth of all truths - they aren't after money - therefore they are absolutely sincere

Right

I have no axe to grind here. Jackson is the wierdest of the wierd. But wasn't it about a decade ago that he was embroiled in a molestaion controversy with rumors of payoff. Wasn't this new accuser about 2 years old at that time. Do we believe that the parents didn't know of the controversey. How did this child get into Jackson's hands unsupervised? Where were the parents.

And then I read (I am getting my skeptical hackles up now) that the boy come up with this under the influence of a "therapist".

Ohhhhh now I know we are swimming in truth. A therapist pulled it out of him. Oh now I believe it.

I liked Phil Hendri's comment: 10 years with your nose up the guys ass and this is all there is.

Bentspoon

Jeff Corey · 20th November 2003, 05:56 PM

If this family has the purest of motives, why have they hired the same lawyer who represented the kid in the first place, ten years ago.

Also, where are this kids parents? This is an adult male who states publicly that he shares his bed with adolescent boys. As a sex abuse investigator for Child Protective Services I would be looking at the parents' culpability.

L Unit

{ Edit : That was Ellen}

NoZed Avenger · 20th November 2003, 06:52 PM

I would say that until we've had a chance to see the actual evidence produced by both sides, we've got nothing but speculation. I agree that the circumstances surrounding the accusation look somewhat suspicious, to date.

Yes, he's a freak. But so far, nothing has been produced to show that he is a guilty freak outside of the initial claim -- we'll have to see what the prosecution actually has before any conclusions can be drawn.

CFLarsen · 21st November 2003, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff Corey
If this family has the purest of motives, why have they hired the same lawyer who represented the kid in the first place, ten years ago.

No ****? Sources of this?

Hey, if he won the first time, I'd go with that lawyer, too! But then, my motives are as pure as my mind....

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff Corey
Also, where are this kids parents? This is an adult male who states publicly that he shares his bed with adolescent boys. As a sex abuse investigator for Child Protective Services I would be looking at the parents' culpability.

Agree. If the parents knew that their kid was spending time with MJ, they cannot possibly have been unaware of this habit.

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff Corey
L Unit

{ Edit : That was Ellen}

(waves)

20th November 2003, 04:05 PM	#1
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	I Smell a Rat As in barratry, in these recent charges against Elvis's son-in-law. Anyone with deep pockets can be set up, especially if you run a neverland and act stupidly in public.

20th November 2003, 04:22 PM	#2
Iamme Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Western Wisconsin Posts: 4,622	Jeff---Hi. EX-son in law...that he never knew he would have had. Hear that he turned himself in today?
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20th November 2003, 04:52 PM	#3
Bentspoon Thinker Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle Posts: 197	I agree This smells bad. I love the credibility line. This family is not after money ,.......... the truth of all truths - they aren't after money - therefore they are absolutely sincere Right I have no axe to grind here. Jackson is the wierdest of the wierd. But wasn't it about a decade ago that he was embroiled in a molestaion controversy with rumors of payoff. Wasn't this new accuser about 2 years old at that time. Do we believe that the parents didn't know of the controversey. How did this child get into Jackson's hands unsupervised? Where were the parents. And then I read (I am getting my skeptical hackles up now) that the boy come up with this under the influence of a "therapist". Ohhhhh now I know we are swimming in truth. A therapist pulled it out of him. Oh now I believe it. I liked Phil Hendri's comment: 10 years with your nose up the guys ass and this is all there is. Bentspoon

20th November 2003, 06:52 PM	#5
NoZed Avenger Bitter Whiner Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 11,313	I would say that until we've had a chance to see the actual evidence produced by both sides, we've got nothing but speculation. I agree that the circumstances surrounding the accusation look somewhat suspicious, to date. Yes, he's a freak. But so far, nothing has been produced to show that he is a guilty freak outside of the initial claim -- we'll have to see what the prosecution actually has before any conclusions can be drawn.
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21st November 2003, 12:27 AM	#6
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Quote: Originally posted by Jeff Corey If this family has the purest of motives, why have they hired the same lawyer who represented the kid in the first place, ten years ago. No ***? Sources of this? Hey, if he won the first time, I'd go with that lawyer, too! But then, my motives are as pure as my mind.... Quote: Originally posted by Jeff Corey* Also, where are this kids parents? This is an adult male who states publicly that he shares his bed with adolescent boys. As a sex abuse investigator for Child Protective Services I would be looking at the parents' culpability. Agree. If the parents knew that their kid was spending time with MJ, they cannot possibly have been unaware of this habit. Quote: Originally posted by Jeff Corey L Unit { Edit : That was Ellen} (waves)
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20th November 2003, 05:56 PM	#4
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	If this family has the purest of motives, why have they hired the same lawyer who represented the kid in the first place, ten years ago. Also, where are this kids parents? This is an adult male who states publicly that he shares his bed with adolescent boys. As a sex abuse investigator for Child Protective Services I would be looking at the parents' culpability. L Unit { Edit : That was Ellen}