What do truthers do for a living?

aggle-rithm · 28th May 2009, 05:06 AM

Many times on these fora we have joked about truthers living in their parents' garage and never having done anything worthwhile in their lives. However, I know for a fact that there are truthers who are gainfully employed, even in professional positions requiring a great deal of skill.

So, I was wondering what sort of mix of careers we have with our truthers here.

I'll be honest: I think that truthers are delusional in their beliefs about political and social realities. However, very few careers require people to be realistic in these specific areas.

Also, I have no desire to humiliate any of you or use knowledge of your occupation against you in any arguments outside this thread. A person's career is irrelevent to the quality of his arguments, good or bad. I am just interested in knowing more about the mindset of conspiracy theorists.

So how about it?

(PS -- I won't ask any of you not to lie or exaggerate about what you do for a living, because I'm sure that's unnecessary!)

vanillabear · 28th May 2009, 05:55 AM

My sister is a truther, albeit a recent one. She works for a large oil company (irony?) in IT. She has been roped into all the standard paranoid conspiracy theorist woo (NWO/Illuminati, Chemtrails, Flouride conspiracies, Anti vax...there really isn't much that she *won’t* believe!)

TheDoLittle · 28th May 2009, 07:17 AM

I only personally know two truthers... one of whom is gainfully employed as a part-time janitor and part-time pizza delivery. The other owns his own business as a piano tuner and organ restorer (he actually makes quite a nice paycheck out of it).

OTOH, I think he might be coming towards to light about 9/11. Instead of thinking Bush and the Illumanati were behind the attacks, he thinks it was all singularly Dick Cheney's plan and implementation.

Foolmewunz · 28th May 2009, 07:56 AM

I think most of them are with the NSA, Navy Seals, Special Forces, and hush-hush think tanks.

Alareth · 28th May 2009, 08:30 AM

My observation, and I've mentioned it be fore, is that a large (apparent) number of them seem to be involved with music.

Ace is obvious, but many bill themselves as DJ's.

Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs?

Horatius · 28th May 2009, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Alareth

Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs?

Have you ever watched the mass tryout episodes of shows like American Idol?

aggle-rithm · 28th May 2009, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Alareth

My observation, and I've mentioned it be fore, is that a large (apparent) number of them seem to be involved with music.

Ace is obvious, but many bill themselves as DJ's.

Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs?

When I majored in music, I got the impression that musicians were the most "normal" of the Fine Arts majors. Art majors seemed a little weird to me, and don't even get me started on the Drama people.

Cuddles · 28th May 2009, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Alareth

Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs?

I think it's the other way around - the delusional mindset contributes to people's beliefs that they are musical or artistic. Seriously people, if you're genuinely tone deaf, we'll believe you. You don't need to be broadcast on national TV to prove it to us.

vanillabear · 28th May 2009, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

When I majored in music, I got the impression that musicians were the most "normal" of the Fine Arts majors. Art majors seemed a little weird to me, and don't even get me started on the Drama people.

I don't think we are talking about the kind of musicians who have majored in music

TheDoLittle · 28th May 2009, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Horatius

Have you ever watched the mass tryout episodes of shows like American Idol?

I miss Sex.

dudalb · 28th May 2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs?

Yeah,and the most common delusion is that one has musical or artistic talent when one does not.

G-K-4 · 28th May 2009, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

So, I was wondering what sort of mix of careers we have with our truthers here.

I'm not a truther, but I know one person who is getting deeper into 9/11 conspiracism despite my best efforts. He's an electrical engineer. (He also likes music, but then who doesn't?)

I know someone else whom I nudged away from 9/11 conspiracism, and who now works at a homeless shelter. (He's not homeless himself, he just works there.) That's not as well-paying as electrical engineering, so there you have one data point against the idea that middle-class (or potentially middle-class) white collar professionals would reject conspiracism and vice versa. It's more complicated than that. Don't forget the idea that many "smart" people believe they're too smart to be fooled, a phenomenon that seems to happen in certain demographic groups with regard to vaccines.

There are also a couple of students of my acquaintance who are into Alex Jones. I don't know if they have jobs outside of school, or what their majors are.

Redtail · 28th May 2009, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

When I majored in music, I got the impression that musicians were the most "normal" of the Fine Arts majors. Art majors seemed a little weird to me, and don't even get me started on the Drama people.

One of myy favorite parts of grad school was messing with the music majors about "Suzuki Technique".

As for a drama/truther connections, I remember one young lady who was into it but I chalked it up to her extreme hatred of Bush... At least I haven't received any "OMGZ LOOK @ THIS!!! INSIDE JOB!!!!" emails since last Nov.

Eddie Dane · 29th May 2009, 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by TheDoLittle

I miss Sex.

Gee, thanks for that.

Do you have any tips on how I can erase that from my neocortex without using a shotgun?

Eddie Dane · 29th May 2009, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

Many times on these fora we have joked about truthers living in their parents' garage and never having done anything worthwhile in their lives. However, I know for a fact that there are truthers who are gainfully employed, even in professional positions requiring a great deal of skill.

So, I was wondering what sort of mix of careers we have with our truthers here.

I'll be honest: I think that truthers are delusional in their beliefs about political and social realities. However, very few careers require people to be realistic in these specific areas.

Also, I have no desire to humiliate any of you or use knowledge of your occupation against you in any arguments outside this thread. A person's career is irrelevent to the quality of his arguments, good or bad. I am just interested in knowing more about the mindset of conspiracy theorists.

So how about it?

(PS -- I won't ask any of you not to lie or exaggerate about what you do for a living, because I'm sure that's unnecessary!)

I had been thinking about starting a thread just like this, but with a slightly different angle.

Last year I made a catalogue for fashion items. I did this with the company that produces the items, a graphic designer and a printer.

Although making such an item seems pretty straightforward, we encountered numerous problems. Lots of little details like the changing laws, changes in collection, changing article numbers etc etc. etc. (It is a very successful project BTW)

halfway through I started to wonder: 'do truthers have jobs?' as in, do they ever have to get a bunch of complicated stuff done by a certain deadline?

And for arguments sake I'm leaving the whole secrecy thing out of the equation.

If getting 2000 books with pictures and numbers to 2000 shops is this much work and has so many hurldes, what would it take to pull off a 9--11 inside job?

I suspect very few truthers do anything in the way of management.

vanillabear · 29th May 2009, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Eddie Dane

If getting 2000 books with pictures and numbers to 2000 shops is this much work and has so many hurldes, what would it take to pull off a 9--11 inside job?

I suspect very few truthers do anything in the way of management.

I couldn't agree more. The sheer logistics of an operation like many of the conspiracy theories makes the mind boggle.

TheDoLittle · 29th May 2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Eddie Dane

Gee, thanks for that.

Do you have any tips on how I can erase that from my neocortex without using a shotgun?

Yes, but it would require a howitzer.

TheDoLittle · 29th May 2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Eddie Dane

I suspect very few truthers do anything in the way of management.

No, because once you're in management, you automatically become a shill for the Illumnati, Freemasons, Zionists, etc.

Thunder · 29th May 2009, 03:01 PM

I only know one semi-truther. He is unemployed and has a huge fetish for Oriental women. Lives in his mother's basement in St. Louis. He really has no plan for his life.

Justin39640 · 29th May 2009, 06:43 PM

I know a few
the best one is a bunch of my friends had a band
if you've been in a band you know how hard it is to find a singer that fits

so along comes this guy
hes like a rap/rock guy and he sounds good with band

so before anyone realized (cause they were way too stoned) he had transformed them into a conspiracy band

the guy got really involved in the truth movement and it was a downward spiral from there

heres a sampling: http://www.purevolume.com/clarityny

they got a review once that said they had a lot of potential musically but the lyrical content killed any chance of mainstream success

Justin39640 · 29th May 2009, 06:52 PM

o and just a few weeks ago
I found out that one of my long time buddies that I play poker with almost every week is a "truther"
my other friend was on the fence who brought it up (they work together and I hadn't seen the other guy in a while)
the on the fence guy goes "I'm not sure about 911 after all the stuff L.. tells us about at work"
im like what stuff
"like the pentagon stuff that there wanst a 757"

I whip out my blackberry punch up aerospaceweb and hand it to him
2 minutes later he hands it back and goes
"OK, L.. you're ....ing crazy that was a 757"

my conspiracy friend makes a decent living
lives alone
not exactly what you would call a lady killer lol

JihadJane · 29th May 2009, 06:56 PM

I am the Prime Minister of France.

aggle-rithm · 29th May 2009, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by JihadJane

I am the Prime Minister of France.

Explains a lot.

Solus · 29th May 2009, 07:05 PM

They work at the same place I do...

Whiplash · 29th May 2009, 08:05 PM

I've mentioned a few times now a friend of mine who is falling deeper and deeper into 9-11 nutjob stuff. He is fairly much a "truther" now. He doesn't believe anything I tell him or show him. Yet he accepts Alex Jones videos at face value, without hesitation. It's clearly a case of someone who is willing to suspend disbelief when it comes to things that fit into his idea of what the world really is, but only for those areas. Anything else is suspect.

But to answer the OP's question, he drives a truck. 6 days a week, long shifts. Night time. So ya, you can guess the next part. Lots of Coast to Coast AM (although lately he's been saying more about Michael Savage). He is in his late 30's, and single, living with his sister. For his age, he's still a big kid. Spends all his free time on XBOX Live. He doesn't web browse much at all. He just watches these videos that other friends send him. That's his main source of "truth". Alex Jones videos.

Edit: Removed alot that is not important, may end up getting back to him or help identify him to some. Frankly, I'm just carrying my personal grudge with him into the forums. I shouldn't.

Klimax · 30th May 2009, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by parky76

I only know one semi-truther. He is unemployed and has a huge fetish for Oriental women. Lives in his mother's basement in St. Louis. He really has no plan for his life.

This is almost archetype of truther!

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

Explains a lot.

We are fortunately not close to them...

As for truther I knwo, he is software developer and owner of small company and student of physics.Libertarian.

antennafarm · 30th May 2009, 09:30 AM

this quote comes to mind:

"MOM... where's my OATMEAL?!"

Elizabeth I · 30th May 2009, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Alareth

My observation, and I've mentioned it be fore, is that a large (apparent) number of them seem to be involved with music.

Ace is obvious, but many bill themselves as DJ's.

Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs?

Being a "DJ" is a lot like being a "writer". You can say you're a writer without ever writing anything. You can be a DJ waiting for gigs without ever having to plug in the turntable.

aggle-rithm · 31st May 2009, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Elizabeth I

Being a "DJ" is a lot like being a "writer". You can say you're a writer without ever writing anything. You can be a DJ waiting for gigs without ever having to plug in the turntable.

The same works for "producer", "director", "actor"...

aggle-rithm · 31st May 2009, 10:37 AM

I'm a little disappointed that no truthers are forthcoming about their occupations. Probably has something to do with their suspicious nature.

One thing I've noticed is that truthers often identify with what they "used to do" for a living. "I used to be an architect", "I used to be an electrical engineer", are some of the claims I've heard. Strangely, they are describing careers, not occupations. To say that one is a "former architect" seems to imply that he has lost the training he once had.

Which probably explains why he was unable to demonstrate a single engineering calculation.

Mr.D · 31st May 2009, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Elizabeth I

Being a "DJ" is a lot like being a "writer". You can say you're a writer without ever writing anything. You can be a DJ waiting for gigs without ever having to plug in the turntable.

To be fair, I've known a few people who call themselves DJs. At least two make a good living doing it as part of their business (Music shop owner and Entertainment manager respectively)

But the "full time" DJ's always seem to be traveling from city to city sleeping on someone's couch and have nothing but free time during the day.

siddhigyrl · 5th June 2009, 09:36 AM

My mom's a truther. She's an RN. Cannot be convinced that the DVC is a work of fiction. Another person very close to me is, I'd say, a 3/4 truther, and he works for a branch of the military -- handling billions of $$ daily.

This is my first foray into the CT threads. I'm fearful...

Sabrina · 5th June 2009, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by TheDoLittle

I miss Sex.

[ot]They actually let him try the choreography this year, because Nigel was tired of telling him he couldn't dance over and over again and hoped that might wake him up a bit.

Didn't work, far as I can tell.[/ot]

Dog Town · 5th June 2009, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by siddhigyrl

Another person very close to me is, I'd say, a 3/4 truther, and he works for a branch of the military -- handling billions of $$ daily.

Considering the entire Pentagon budget is less than 800 billion, that would be quite a feat on a daily basis, for a person in one branch of service. Care to elaborate?

JihadJane · 5th June 2009, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Dog Town

Considering the entire Pentagon budget is less than 800 billion, ...

...not counting the odd trillion that may go astray from time to time.

Dog Town · 5th June 2009, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by JihadJane

...not counting the odd trillion that may go astray from time to time.

You can't really be ignorant of this, you are just perpetrating a lie, at this point. So sad!

dudalb · 5th June 2009, 03:44 PM

I think a lot of truthers have a job that involves saying "Would you like Fries with that? " a lot.

JihadJane · 6th June 2009, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I think a lot of truthers have a job that involves saying "Would you like Fries with that? " a lot.

Thanks for your thought. Is it related to the real world in any way?

jakesteele · 6th June 2009, 03:44 PM

Since there are Truthers on both sides of the fence I would say that the entire spectrum of livelihoods is pretty much covered.

Truthers on the skeptic side are absolutely positive they know the truth, so therefore they are as much a Truther as a conspiracy inclined person who is positive they know the truth. It's like they are sides of the same coin.

aggle-rithm · 6th June 2009, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by JihadJane

Thanks for your thought. Is it related to the real world in any way?

Maybe not, but at least it's on topic, which is more than I can say for you.

28th May 2009, 05:06 AM	#1
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,149	What do truthers do for a living? Many times on these fora we have joked about truthers living in their parents' garage and never having done anything worthwhile in their lives. However, I know for a fact that there are truthers who are gainfully employed, even in professional positions requiring a great deal of skill. So, I was wondering what sort of mix of careers we have with our truthers here. I'll be honest: I think that truthers are delusional in their beliefs about political and social realities. However, very few careers require people to be realistic in these specific areas. Also, I have no desire to humiliate any of you or use knowledge of your occupation against you in any arguments outside this thread. A person's career is irrelevent to the quality of his arguments, good or bad. I am just interested in knowing more about the mindset of conspiracy theorists. So how about it? (PS -- I won't ask any of you not to lie or exaggerate about what you do for a living, because I'm sure that's unnecessary!)
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28th May 2009, 07:17 AM	#3
TheDoLittle Disco King Discombobulator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,658	I only personally know two truthers... one of whom is gainfully employed as a part-time janitor and part-time pizza delivery. The other owns his own business as a piano tuner and organ restorer (he actually makes quite a nice paycheck out of it). OTOH, I think he might be coming towards to light about 9/11. Instead of thinking Bush and the Illumanati were behind the attacks, he thinks it was all singularly Dick Cheney's plan and implementation.
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28th May 2009, 07:56 AM	#4
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Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,670	My observation, and I've mentioned it be fore, is that a large (apparent) number of them seem to be involved with music. Ace is obvious, but many bill themselves as DJ's. Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs?
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28th May 2009, 08:43 AM	#6
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 21,881	Originally Posted by Alareth Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs? Have you ever watched the mass tryout episodes of shows like American Idol?
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28th May 2009, 05:55 AM	#2
vanillabear New Blood Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Bildeberg Hotel Posts: 5	My sister is a truther, albeit a recent one. She works for a large oil company (irony?) in IT. She has been roped into all the standard paranoid conspiracy theorist woo (NWO/Illuminati, Chemtrails, Flouride conspiracies, Anti vax...there really isn't much that she won’t believe!)

28th May 2009, 08:44 AM	#7
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,149	Originally Posted by Alareth My observation, and I've mentioned it be fore, is that a large (apparent) number of them seem to be involved with music. Ace is obvious, but many bill themselves as DJ's. Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs? When I majored in music, I got the impression that musicians were the most "normal" of the Fine Arts majors. Art majors seemed a little weird to me, and don't even get me started on the Drama people.
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28th May 2009, 09:26 AM	#8
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,564	Originally Posted by Alareth Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs? I think it's the other way around - the delusional mindset contributes to people's beliefs that they are musical or artistic. Seriously people, if you're genuinely tone deaf, we'll believe you. You don't need to be broadcast on national TV to prove it to us.
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28th May 2009, 09:40 AM	#9
vanillabear New Blood Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Bildeberg Hotel Posts: 5	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm When I majored in music, I got the impression that musicians were the most "normal" of the Fine Arts majors. Art majors seemed a little weird to me, and don't even get me started on the Drama people. I don't think we are talking about the kind of musicians who have majored in music

28th May 2009, 11:11 AM	#10
TheDoLittle Disco King Discombobulator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,658	Originally Posted by Horatius Have you ever watched the mass tryout episodes of shows like American Idol? I miss Sex.
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28th May 2009, 11:32 AM	#11
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,782	Quote: Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs? Yeah,and the most common delusion is that one has musical or artistic talent when one does not.

28th May 2009, 11:47 AM	#12
G-K-4 Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 365	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm So, I was wondering what sort of mix of careers we have with our truthers here. I'm not a truther, but I know one person who is getting deeper into 9/11 conspiracism despite my best efforts. He's an electrical engineer. (He also likes music, but then who doesn't?) I know someone else whom I nudged away from 9/11 conspiracism, and who now works at a homeless shelter. (He's not homeless himself, he just works there.) That's not as well-paying as electrical engineering, so there you have one data point against the idea that middle-class (or potentially middle-class) white collar professionals would reject conspiracism and vice versa. It's more complicated than that. Don't forget the idea that many "smart" people believe they're too smart to be fooled, a phenomenon that seems to happen in certain demographic groups with regard to vaccines. There are also a couple of students of my acquaintance who are into Alex Jones. I don't know if they have jobs outside of school, or what their majors are.
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28th May 2009, 04:15 PM	#13
Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,302	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm When I majored in music, I got the impression that musicians were the most "normal" of the Fine Arts majors. Art majors seemed a little weird to me, and don't even get me started on the Drama people. One of myy favorite parts of grad school was messing with the music majors about "Suzuki Technique". As for a drama/truther connections, I remember one young lady who was into it but I chalked it up to her extreme hatred of Bush... At least I haven't received any "OMGZ LOOK @ THIS!!! INSIDE JOB!!!!" emails since last Nov.
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29th May 2009, 04:54 AM	#14
Eddie Dane Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,414	Originally Posted by TheDoLittle I miss Sex. Gee, thanks for that. Do you have any tips on how I can erase that from my neocortex without using a shotgun?

29th May 2009, 05:04 AM	#15
Eddie Dane Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,414	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm Many times on these fora we have joked about truthers living in their parents' garage and never having done anything worthwhile in their lives. However, I know for a fact that there are truthers who are gainfully employed, even in professional positions requiring a great deal of skill. So, I was wondering what sort of mix of careers we have with our truthers here. I'll be honest: I think that truthers are delusional in their beliefs about political and social realities. However, very few careers require people to be realistic in these specific areas. Also, I have no desire to humiliate any of you or use knowledge of your occupation against you in any arguments outside this thread. A person's career is irrelevent to the quality of his arguments, good or bad. I am just interested in knowing more about the mindset of conspiracy theorists. So how about it? (PS -- I won't ask any of you not to lie or exaggerate about what you do for a living, because I'm sure that's unnecessary!) I had been thinking about starting a thread just like this, but with a slightly different angle. Last year I made a catalogue for fashion items. I did this with the company that produces the items, a graphic designer and a printer. Although making such an item seems pretty straightforward, we encountered numerous problems. Lots of little details like the changing laws, changes in collection, changing article numbers etc etc. etc. (It is a very successful project BTW) halfway through I started to wonder: 'do truthers have jobs?' as in, do they ever have to get a bunch of complicated stuff done by a certain deadline? And for arguments sake I'm leaving the whole secrecy thing out of the equation. If getting 2000 books with pictures and numbers to 2000 shops is this much work and has so many hurldes, what would it take to pull off a 9--11 inside job? I suspect very few truthers do anything in the way of management.

29th May 2009, 08:32 AM	#16
vanillabear New Blood Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Bildeberg Hotel Posts: 5	Originally Posted by Eddie Dane If getting 2000 books with pictures and numbers to 2000 shops is this much work and has so many hurldes, what would it take to pull off a 9--11 inside job? I suspect very few truthers do anything in the way of management. I couldn't agree more. The sheer logistics of an operation like many of the conspiracy theories makes the mind boggle.

29th May 2009, 12:52 PM	#17
TheDoLittle Disco King Discombobulator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,658	Originally Posted by Eddie Dane Gee, thanks for that. Do you have any tips on how I can erase that from my neocortex without using a shotgun? Yes, but it would require a howitzer.
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29th May 2009, 12:56 PM	#18
TheDoLittle Disco King Discombobulator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,658	Originally Posted by Eddie Dane I suspect very few truthers do anything in the way of management. No, because once you're in management, you automatically become a shill for the Illumnati, Freemasons, Zionists, etc.
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29th May 2009, 03:01 PM	#19
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 34,947	I only know one semi-truther. He is unemployed and has a huge fetish for Oriental women. Lives in his mother's basement in St. Louis. He really has no plan for his life.

29th May 2009, 06:43 PM	#20
Justin39640 Illuminator Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Posts: 3,646	I know a few the best one is a bunch of my friends had a band if you've been in a band you know how hard it is to find a singer that fits so along comes this guy hes like a rap/rock guy and he sounds good with band so before anyone realized (cause they were way too stoned) he had transformed them into a conspiracy band the guy got really involved in the truth movement and it was a downward spiral from there heres a sampling: http://www.purevolume.com/clarityny they got a review once that said they had a lot of potential musically but the lyrical content killed any chance of mainstream success
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29th May 2009, 06:52 PM	#21
Justin39640 Illuminator Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Posts: 3,646	o and just a few weeks ago I found out that one of my long time buddies that I play poker with almost every week is a "truther" my other friend was on the fence who brought it up (they work together and I hadn't seen the other guy in a while) the on the fence guy goes "I'm not sure about 911 after all the stuff L.. tells us about at work" im like what stuff "like the pentagon stuff that there wanst a 757" I whip out my blackberry punch up aerospaceweb and hand it to him 2 minutes later he hands it back and goes "OK, L.. you're ....ing crazy that was a 757" my conspiracy friend makes a decent living lives alone not exactly what you would call a lady killer lol
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29th May 2009, 06:56 PM	#22
JihadJane Penultimate Satisfaction Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 42,663	I am the Prime Minister of France.
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29th May 2009, 07:00 PM	#23
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,149	Originally Posted by JihadJane I am the Prime Minister of France. Explains a lot.
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29th May 2009, 07:05 PM	#24
Solus Tinkering with my brain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: L.A. area Posts: 1,723	They work at the same place I do...

29th May 2009, 08:05 PM	#25
Whiplash Acting like a maniac Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Shipwrecked and Comatose Posts: 5,389	I've mentioned a few times now a friend of mine who is falling deeper and deeper into 9-11 nutjob stuff. He is fairly much a "truther" now. He doesn't believe anything I tell him or show him. Yet he accepts Alex Jones videos at face value, without hesitation. It's clearly a case of someone who is willing to suspend disbelief when it comes to things that fit into his idea of what the world really is, but only for those areas. Anything else is suspect. But to answer the OP's question, he drives a truck. 6 days a week, long shifts. Night time. So ya, you can guess the next part. Lots of Coast to Coast AM (although lately he's been saying more about Michael Savage). He is in his late 30's, and single, living with his sister. For his age, he's still a big kid. Spends all his free time on XBOX Live. He doesn't web browse much at all. He just watches these videos that other friends send him. That's his main source of "truth". Alex Jones videos. Edit: Removed alot that is not important, may end up getting back to him or help identify him to some. Frankly, I'm just carrying my personal grudge with him into the forums. I shouldn't.
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30th May 2009, 01:13 AM	#26
Klimax NWO cyborg (3930K inside) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Starship Wanderer - DS9 Posts: 7,882	Originally Posted by parky76 I only know one semi-truther. He is unemployed and has a huge fetish for Oriental women. Lives in his mother's basement in St. Louis. He really has no plan for his life. This is almost archetype of truther! Originally Posted by aggle-rithm Explains a lot. We are fortunately not close to them... As for truther I knwo, he is software developer and owner of small company and student of physics.Libertarian.
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30th May 2009, 09:30 AM	#27
antennafarm Student Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fort Bragg, NC Posts: 49	this quote comes to mind: "MOM... where's my OATMEAL?!"

30th May 2009, 11:18 AM	#28
Elizabeth I Olympic Equestrian Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Defending the Alamo Posts: 9,253	Originally Posted by Alareth My observation, and I've mentioned it be fore, is that a large (apparent) number of them seem to be involved with music. Ace is obvious, but many bill themselves as DJ's. Is there something in the musical/artistic mindset that contributes to delusional beliefs? Being a "DJ" is a lot like being a "writer". You can say you're a writer without ever writing anything. You can be a DJ waiting for gigs without ever having to plug in the turntable.
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31st May 2009, 10:30 AM	#29
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,149	Originally Posted by Elizabeth I Being a "DJ" is a lot like being a "writer". You can say you're a writer without ever writing anything. You can be a DJ waiting for gigs without ever having to plug in the turntable. The same works for "producer", "director", "actor"...
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31st May 2009, 10:37 AM	#30
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,149	I'm a little disappointed that no truthers are forthcoming about their occupations. Probably has something to do with their suspicious nature. One thing I've noticed is that truthers often identify with what they "used to do" for a living. "I used to be an architect", "I used to be an electrical engineer", are some of the claims I've heard. Strangely, they are describing careers, not occupations. To say that one is a "former architect" seems to imply that he has lost the training he once had. Which probably explains why he was unable to demonstrate a single engineering calculation.
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31st May 2009, 01:52 PM	#31
Mr.D Self Assessed Dunning-Kruger Expert Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NWO Paradise Posts: 1,178	Originally Posted by Elizabeth I Being a "DJ" is a lot like being a "writer". You can say you're a writer without ever writing anything. You can be a DJ waiting for gigs without ever having to plug in the turntable. To be fair, I've known a few people who call themselves DJs. At least two make a good living doing it as part of their business (Music shop owner and Entertainment manager respectively) But the "full time" DJ's always seem to be traveling from city to city sleeping on someone's couch and have nothing but free time during the day.

5th June 2009, 09:36 AM	#32
siddhigyrl Scholar Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: metro DC Posts: 96	My mom's a truther. She's an RN. Cannot be convinced that the DVC is a work of fiction. Another person very close to me is, I'd say, a 3/4 truther, and he works for a branch of the military -- handling billions of $$ daily. This is my first foray into the CT threads. I'm fearful...

5th June 2009, 11:01 AM	#33
Sabrina Wicked Lovely Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spinning through space Posts: 6,867	Originally Posted by TheDoLittle I miss Sex. [ot]They actually let him try the choreography this year, because Nigel was tired of telling him he couldn't dance over and over again and hoped that might wake him up a bit. Didn't work, far as I can tell.[/ot]
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5th June 2009, 11:18 AM	#34
Dog Town Space for Rent Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sunny blue sky, cold water. Posts: 4,461	Originally Posted by siddhigyrl Another person very close to me is, I'd say, a 3/4 truther, and he works for a branch of the military -- handling billions of $$ daily. Considering the entire Pentagon budget is less than 800 billion, that would be quite a feat on a daily basis, for a person in one branch of service. Care to elaborate?
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5th June 2009, 12:44 PM	#35
JihadJane Penultimate Satisfaction Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 42,663	Originally Posted by Dog Town Considering the entire Pentagon budget is less than 800 billion, ... ...not counting the odd trillion that may go astray from time to time.
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