Sotomayor Dissenting Opinions = Lunatic Fringe!!!

[MichaelLWagner]

Go figure, the “New Hispanic” woman and the “Militant” Jew are two sides of the same coin…

You see…, the “New Hispanic” woman is burning with rage, angrily decrying her roots (slovenness / unambitiousness); the Militant Jews are fiercely self-important and driven (Nazi-like—this where Nazi Thugs often stopped Jews on the street and forced them to clean statues, ect.); so you put them together with the frenzied, self-flagellation practicing, New American Nazi Hierarchy …

"After the seizures in late 1942 of five US enterprises he managed on behalf of Nazi industrialist F. Thyssen, Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President Bush, failed to divest himself of more than a dozen 'enemy national' relationships that continued until as late as 1951, newly discovered government documents reveal," (The New Hampshire Gazette, Nov. 7, 2003)

"I have had plenty of opportunity in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime ... They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there." (Quoting US Ambassador to Germany (William Dodd), Facts and Fascism, G. Seldes, p. 122, also, Trading with the Enemy, C. Higham, p. 167).

“Hitler was also funded by these very same banking families. David Rockefeller started an Oil Company for Lolo Soetoro (Obama’s step-father) … Stanley A's (Obama’s mother) father worked for David Rockefeller's Standard Oil Company. Lolo later set up shop in Indonesia as a front for Standard Oil (called Mobile Oil co.).” (Thought Provoking / Atlas Shrugs)

“1927, Standard Oil and IG Farben founded the company … president was the oil dealer William Farish from Texas.”

“Standard passed to IG Farben the patents about the coal hydrogenation processes and the Germans gave them the patents how to manufacture synthetic rubber. This alliance wasn't well regarded by the US-government, above all after the entered into the war after Pearl Harbour , on December 7 th , 1941.”

“Officials … opened a formal investigation against Standard Oil. The accusation was that the company hid patents from the US -Navy and supplied fuel to German submarines.”

“ John D. Rockefeller said that he wasn't aware of that and Farish pled "no contest" to charges of criminal conspiracy with the Nazis.”

“In March 1942, the Pentagon begged President Roosevelt to stop the investigation, to protect war production and oil supply. Roosevelt agreed. The Company paid a fine of 5000 dollars and promised to stop fuel supply for the enemies.”

What colleagues say of Sotomayor:

“She has an inflated opinion of herself, and is domineering …”

“…not that smart and kind of a bully on the bench.”

“Sotomayor … rankled her colleagues by sending long memos that didn't distinguish between substantive and trivial points, with petty editing suggestions--fixing typos and the like--rather than focusing on the core analytical issues.”

“…a conservative colleague, Ralph Winter, included an unusual footnote in a case suggesting that an earlier opinion by Sotomayor might have inadvertently misstated the law in a way that misled litigants.”

Above from: The Case Against Sotomayor / The New Republic

Here consider Sotomator’s Dissenting Opinions:

+ USA v. Juan Vincent Gomez Castrillon = money laundering conviction should be vacated = evidence didn’t amount to guilty beyond a reason doubt = defendant drove $500,000 to meeting with undercover agent / defendant was lookout / defendant had $6,000 on him.

+ Kelsey v. County of Schoharie = requiring a newly admitted jail inmate to disrobe in front of a corrections officer = strip search violation of the Fourth Amendment (and any reasonably intelligent corrections officer should know this).

+ Equal Employment Opportunity Commission v. J.B. Hunt Transport, Inc. = Trucking Company shouldn’t have rejected job applicants on medication that might impair driving ability = truck driving is a broad class of jobs (this though the employer only saw applicants as unfit to perform a certain job for which they were seeking applicants).

+ Thomas Pappas v. Mayor and Commissioner of the Police Department of the City of New York = Police Officer kept receiving letters asking for contributions, so he anonymously returned racially bigoted materials = he was fired = majority opinion—“For a New York City police officer to disseminate leaflets that trumpet bigoted messages expressing hostility to Jews, ridiculing African Americans and attributing to them a criminal disposition to rape, robbery, and murder, tends to promote the view among New York citizenry that those are the opinions of New York’s police officers.… In the words of Justice Holmes,‘A policeman may have a constitutional right to [speak his mind], but he has no constitutional right to be a policeman.’”= dissent opinion—where an employee serves no supervisory role, the danger to an agency’s successful functioning is minimal = also the “statements” were made while off-duty = also anonymous nature—“… the Department should have swept the matter under the rug hoping no one would ever learn the facts; and if it chose instead to bring charges against Pappas, it has only itself to blame for the resulting harm to its reputation …”

+ S.H. Croll v. M.Y.Croll = married couple (US Citizens) residing in Hong Kong got divorced and the Hong Kong Court decreed that the child can not be taken from Hong Kong without both parents consent = mother took the child to US = majority decision—child cannot be returned to father in Hong Kong = Dissent Opinion—child can be returned to Hong Kong.

+ L.N. Koehler v. Bank of Bermuda = Burmuda should be recognized as an independent state—rather than a British Overseas Territory.

+ USA v. J. Gori = as officers listened in, a busted drug dealer called his source = when source was subsequently busted with kilo of cocaine = he told cops that someone in apartment 1M had given him the cocaine = cops went into the lobby pending further instructions = when pizza delivery man came to apartment = cops were afraid of being exposed = stood on either side of delivery guy = when door opened cops ordered everybody into the hall = suspect consented to search of apartment = busted for cocaine…= majority opinion—quotes Katz (389 US at 351)“A suspect in her open doorway becomes ‘as exposed to public view, speech, hearing, and touch as if she had been standing completely outside her home.”= dissent opinion—“’[t]he right of the people to be secure in their … houses …’”=“…the Fourth Amendment has drawn a fine line at the entrance to the house.”

[Brainster]

Have you checked out the conspiracy theory subforum? Because that's where the kooky stuff like the Bush/Nazi connection belongs.

[INRM]

Michael L. Wagner,

Quote:

“…a conservative colleague, Ralph Winter, included an unusual footnote in a case suggesting that an earlier opinion by Sotomayor might have inadvertently misstated the law in a way that misled litigants.”

If this is true, that strikes me as a very serious problem...


INRM

[MichaelLWagner]

More importantly, it's rare for a judge to conduct research in a case--that's what happens in the Supreme Court...

So..., when a judge researches a particular case--and he/she is wrong...--certainly there is considerable undue bias...

Furthermore, consider how in Riverkeeper v. EPA Sotomayor ruled that Nuclear Plants can ignore the Clean Water Act in order to save the cost of building a cooling tower.

Here read:

Nuclear Leaks and Response Tested Obama in Senate / NY Times:

“When residents in Illinois voiced outrage two years ago upon learning that the Exelon Corporation (largest nuclear plant operator) had not disclosed radioactive leaks at one of its nuclear plants, the state’s freshman senator, Barack Obama took up their cause.”

“Mr. Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was ‘the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed.’”

“Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. … turning the whole matter over to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, as Mr. Obama’s revised bill would have done, played into the hands of the nuclear power industry, which they say has little to fear from the regulators.”

+ Nuclear Plant Fiascoes Likely with Age, Secret Study Suggests / CommonDreams (from The Cleveland Plain Dealer):

--"But as many nuclear power plants approach the final 10 years of their 40-year operating licenses, they are undergoing fewer safety tests and inspections, according to engineers with close ties to the nuclear industry. That raises the likelihood that cracks and corrosion will not be caught in time, they say."

"The combination of the two trends--fewer inspections and aging components--sets the stage for compounding the problems."

"'The utilities are trying to squeeze down their operation and maintenance costs,' says Harold Ornstein, who until 2000 was a senior engineer and technical adviser for the NRC, where his investigations included Three Mile Island. He says utilities are pushing their staffs to keep the plants running--at the expense of finding equipment problems that might require a shutdown."

"'The idea is to pass the [inspection] test. The idea is not to go out and tell you what the problem is,' Orstein said."

"The Institute of Nuclear Power Operations, the industry's own research group, acknowledges the profit pressure. If a plant shuts down its reactor to inspect a potential problem, it has to purchase replacement power. The costs run into hundreds of thousands of dollars a day."

+ Aging nuclear plants pushed to the limit / Alliance For Nuclear Responsibility:

--"When Exelon upped power output by nearly 18 percent at its Quad Cities plant in 2002, key components began shaking so badly that vibration monitors were thrown from their mounts ... Regulators were concerned, too: Metal chunks should never course haphazardly through a nuclear plant."

+ Nuclear Aging: Older Power Plants Like Palo Verde Generate Fears About Safety / Switch--Colocation for a Nation,

+ Nuke Plants Aging Disgracefully / NoNuclear.net,

+ America's aging nuclear reactors / National Catholic Reporter:

--"A new worry among nuclear power industry watchers and nuclear industry insiders is whether safety concerns are being short-changed as the government renews licenses of the nation's aging nuclear reactors. SOME PUBLIC INTEREST GROUPS SAY CAPITOL HILL IS IN THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY'S POCKET."

+ German Study: More Childhood Cancer Near Nuclear Power Plants / Nuclear Monitor:

--"A German study has found children under five are at 60% greater risk of getting cancer and 120% greater risk of getting leukemia ..."

[Skeptic]

I'm sorry. I have no earthly idea what the heck you're ranting about.

[Pardalis]

Originally Posted by INRM

Michael L. Wagner,



If this is true, that strikes me as a very serious problem...


INRM

You mean you read the whole thing?

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Originally Posted by Skeptic

I'm sorry. I have no earthly idea what the heck you're ranting about.

Exactly! Missing is "Who did What to Whom?"

[dudalb]

This is when happens when you post when you have been drinking.

[The Nimble Pianist]

I'm trying to extrapolate some kind of opinion, some kind of premise from that huge pile of quotations and obvious article titles.... ah but to no avail.

Michael, could you please very succinctly, and without repeating those quotes, tell us what you're trying to tell us here?

[Skeptic]

Mr. Wagner here has no idea why people think he's on the lunatic fringe. Must be a liberal (or is it a conservative? Hard to tell from his writings) conspiracy...

[Damien Evans]

Somebody had a bottle too much absinthe I see...

[Beerina]

Not sure what the relationship with Nazis and Prescott Bush is, unless it's to suggest people are trying to stop investigations into her or her decisions, the way the Pentagon, according to you, pressed Roosevelt to stop investigations into some wealthy people and/or companies as WWII got under way because they were more important to a fully functioning American war machine, which may actually be a wise decision, when you suggest that maybe it'll be your child who dies because some prosecutor wanted a big old feather in his cap, hindering the war machine.

[The Nimble Pianist]

Originally Posted by Beerina

Not sure what the relationship with Nazis and Prescott Bush is, unless it's to suggest people are trying to stop investigations into her or her decisions, the way the Pentagon, according to you, pressed Roosevelt to stop investigations into some wealthy people and/or companies as WWII got under way because they were more important to a fully functioning American war machine, which may actually be a wise decision, when you suggest that maybe it'll be your child who dies because some prosecutor wanted a big old feather in his cap, hindering the war machine.

iT'S GOTTA have sumthin 2 do with the NWO!!!!

[MattusMaximus]

Wow. I'm now at near single digit hit points from having that wall of text fall upon me...

[Tricky]

Originally Posted by MattusMaximus

Wow. I'm now at near single digit hit points from having that wall of text fall upon me...

Try the "ignore" spell. It triples your recovery rate.

[MattusMaximus]

Hmmm... looks like ol' Newt is starting to feel the heat...

Gingrich backs off 'racist' label for Sotomayor

Quote:

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Wednesday he shouldn't have called Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor a racist, but said he was still concerned that she would bring bias to her decisions.

In a letter to supporters, the Georgia Republican said that his words had been "perhaps too strong and direct" last week when he called Sotomayor a reverse "racist," based on a 2001 speech in which she said she hoped the rulings of a "wise Latina" would be better than those of a white male without similar experiences. Gingrich's remarks created a furor among Sotomayor's backers and caused problems for GOP figures who have been pushing to bring more diversity to the party. ...

Oops.

Well, I guess we can expect to hear Rush Limbaugh start railing about how Newt Gingrich isn't a "real Republican" any longer, right?

The GOP is turning into a really bad joke.

[MichaelLWagner]

The idea was that there must be a reason why the author of such drivel is being seriously considered for the Top Court...

"Fascism comprises a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology and a corporatist economic ideology. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in combat against the weak."

Maybe "you guys" are sharper than me--I'm merely suggesting that lawyers baffle with B.S.--any takers here???

[GreyICE]

Originally Posted by MichaelLWagner

The idea was that there must be a reason why the author of such drivel is being seriously considered for the Top Court...

"Fascism comprises a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology and a corporatist economic ideology. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in combat against the weak."

Maybe "you guys" are sharper than me--I'm merely suggesting that lawyers baffle with B.S.--any takers here???

Call me a taker, I'm baffled.

[MichaelLWagner]

Simply follow the money…

You see, everyone and their uncle knows this simple truth, and so…, as they, themselves, follow the money trail, the “Nazis” have to conceal the “trail of the stolen treasure”…

Read:

+ Big Lie / Wikipedia

“The source of Big Lie technique, from Chapter 10 of Mein Kampf:

All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true in itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.”

So…, what do you do (if you’re a corrupt capitalist) when everybody and their talking parrot knows beyond any doubt whatsoever that they, themselves, cannot trust Politicians generally …

“Used in Hitler’s psychological profile:

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.”

And Again:

“Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation.”

Here Read:

+ Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize / LA Times:

“President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.”

“I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.”

”From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief.”

“The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.”

And so…, then there’s Bush’s invasion of Iraq—based upon the threat of Iraq’s Nuclear Program—this where Hans Blix’s UN Iraq WMD inspection team was nearly finished and coming up empty …

+ In College Thesis, Sotomayor Appeared to Support Puerto Rican Independence / Wall Street Journal:

“Under the commonwealth status, there has been a gradual deterioration of the Spanish language among the Puerto Rican populace and a growing Americanization of the island.”

So…, Grey Ol’ Boy—now it’s your turn--perhaps you’d care to explain exactly why we would need an Anti-American/Nazi-type sitting on the Supreme Court and glowering at us because we’re Americanizing “ …the people of my island …”

[MattusMaximus]

Dude, seriously... the CT-subforum is two doors down on the right

[The Nimble Pianist]

How awesome! A Godwin in only your first 6 posts here on JREF. Congrats Michael.

Is that by chance a new record here?

[Bob Blaylock]

Perhaps Mr. Wagner's problem is that he has the shiny side facing inward. It doesn't work unless the shiny side is facing outward.

[leftysergeant]

Originally Posted by Skeptic

Mr. Wagner here has no idea why people think he's on the lunatic fringe. Must be a liberal (or is it a conservative? Hard to tell from his writings) conspiracy...

He cites the New Republic and makes swipes at Obama.

Conservative, and so far to the right that the Rushblob looks liberal and almost rational by comparison.

Beyond repeating the rightwing twaddle about Sotomayor being a racist, I have no idea what he is banging on about for most of this rant.

[GreyICE]

Originally Posted by The Nimble Pianist

How awesome! A Godwin in only your first 6 posts here on JREF. Congrats Michael.

Is that by chance a new record here?

No.

You get a record if you can Godwin before your first post, not sure we've seen that yet.

[MichaelLWagner]

Take Sotomayor's dissenting opinions (SDNY Court of Appeals website; decisions; Sotomayor dissent):

On one hand--surely--it is easy enough to spot-off about how this driven liberal woman is up-against a brutal system, ect. ect. ect.

On the other, simply take the Juan Vincent Gomez Castrillon money laundering case--surely it was up to who ever finds himself in Juan's shoes to make sure they're not delivering a suitcase full of marijuana.

What about the Captain of a cruise ship versus a private fishing boat being confiscated for an employee's hidden marijuana ... This is a good question--another is why she wanna let this guy go?

WHO DID WHAT TO WHOM HERE? Who can be sure--but my guess is that after a lot of preparation an Axis-type arrangement has been reached; the radical Sotomayor agenda has her hand-in-glove with her Nazi co- conspirators.

Actually--it is very confusing--yet simply consider how she decided that Nuclear Power Companies could violate the Clean Water in order to save the cost of a cooling tower (EPA v. Riverkeepers).

Her ruling helped in overlooking that such a cooling tower couldn't possibly cost the billions of dollars the Power Companies quoted (it's just a stupid cooling tower--it's not going to cost as much as 2 BILLION dollars--though I'm no Army Engineer...).

So..., I guess it's kiss your rear good-bye time--now the Nazi's have ruined the world trying attempting take over!!!

[SezMe]

Finally through all the gibberish it comes out you think Sotomayor is a Nazi and part of a movement to take over the world. Didn't they already try that?

Gawd, I hope El Rushbo reads this thread - he'll have a whole new line to add to his schtick.