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Old 17th June 2009, 12:55 PM   #1
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Countdown to Iran Election CTs.

That is if it had not already happened.
You know, the NWO is behind the Demonstrations,Tweeter is a tool of the NWO etc.
You know it's coming....
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Old 17th June 2009, 01:49 PM   #2
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A comment from yesterday's Daily Show episode:

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How is it that the Iran protesters have American Written Words on their signs? I know the CIA is behind this protest. When we protest in America we Americans do not write in Iran words on our protest signs. Something looks fishy Jon....quit watching the ball that the CIA is bouncing Jon. Remember Bush stole the election too. So if an election can be stolen in American then an election can be stolen in Iran. It is not news to the thinkers in the World of Thought. Why do we care who wins the election in Iran when America is borrowing money from China; And America is a economically broke?

It's all just part of some Grand Unified CT. But leave it to the "thinkers in the World of Thought" to see through it. Too bad they have worse english (sorry: American) skills than the average Iranian.
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Old 17th June 2009, 04:25 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by tuc0 View Post
A comment from yesterday's Daily Show episode:




It's all just part of some Grand Unified CT. But leave it to the "thinkers in the World of Thought" to see through it. Too bad they have worse english (sorry: American) skills than the average Iranian.

Iran words?
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Old 17th June 2009, 05:01 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Alareth View Post
Iran words?
i stopped reading at "american written words"
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Old 17th June 2009, 10:27 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe View Post
i stopped reading at "american written words"
I am sad and depressed when foreign English students come across as better users of the *********** languages than most of those born to speak it. However, hearing them speak, in reality, is reassuing to us bad High (Public) School language students. It makes me happy that kids who spoke Farsi got Bs in English yet cannot make themselves understood, cuz I'd be screwed asking for more than a beer in German.

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Old 17th June 2009, 10:42 PM   #6
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Oh, it's coming. It's a momentous event, lots of Internet interest, and not a lot of information. I'm already seeing claims of Israelis sending out information, pretending to be Iranians to spur a revolution. I don't just what to believe right now.
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Old 18th June 2009, 12:16 AM   #7
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What I hate are the "thinkers in the World of Blank."
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Old 18th June 2009, 05:53 AM   #8
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If only the internet had easily used translation programs... Or someone in Iran could translate to "American."

No, thats just crazy talk.

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Old 18th June 2009, 07:11 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
That is if it had not already happened.
When it comes down to it, the whole point of the protests is that they think there was a conspiracy to fix the vote.
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Old 20th June 2009, 06:32 PM   #10
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Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

http://www.infowars.com/are-the-iran...or-revolution/
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Old 20th June 2009, 08:24 PM   #11
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Jerks and bigots are already claiming that Mousavi is a CIA/Mossad agent.
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Old 20th June 2009, 08:50 PM   #12
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SO in addition to his credentials as a 9/11 Twoofer, Paul Craig Roberts can now add "Defender and Apologist for The Iran Regime" to his credentials. Nice.
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Old 21st June 2009, 05:45 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
SO in addition to his credentials as a 9/11 Twoofer, Paul Craig Roberts can now add "Defender and Apologist for The Iran Regime" to his credentials. Nice.
pretty much.
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Old 21st June 2009, 06:02 AM   #14
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I heard this one about how the interior ministry first told Moussavi that he won. But then they changed their mind and invented a fake elections result, which they communicated to the local counting stations, who then submitted the fake result back instead of the real result. They also reported the real result in some way, but that was kept internal.
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Old 21st June 2009, 06:49 AM   #15
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I think this is even more evidence that the CT movement is little more than children who desire to "rage against the MAN". Its matters not what the subject is or if the topic has an obvious right and wrong answer here - it matters only that the CTers act righteously indignant against whatever popular sentiment is.

In this case the government and popular sentiment are correct. In no case is it OK to slaughter and beat people for peaceful protests. Never. But we can't have CT's agreeing with that, then they'd be agreeing with the NWO!
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Old 21st June 2009, 03:19 PM   #16
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Exactly.Anybody who is opposed to the US "Establishment" is a hero to the CTers. If Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were alive today, the CTers would defend them as fellow fighters against "The Man".
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Old 22nd June 2009, 06:21 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
SO in addition to his credentials as a 9/11 Twoofer, Paul Craig Roberts can now add "Defender and Apologist for The Iran Regime" to his credentials. Nice.
I didn't click on the link because I'm at work.
Is this the PC Roberts that worked for the Reagan administration? WTF? Is this guy on shrooms or something?
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Old 22nd June 2009, 07:02 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Exactly.Anybody who is opposed to the US "Establishment" is a hero to the CTers. If Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were alive today, the CTers would defend them as fellow fighters against "The Man".
Plus, I think they like the idea of a country being run by someone like them
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Old 22nd June 2009, 09:33 AM   #19
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Plus, I think they like the idea of a country being run by someone like them
Well, duh, you can't let the Sheeple run things. That's why they are the Sheeple!
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Old 22nd June 2009, 12:04 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Exactly.Anybody who is opposed to the US "Establishment" is a hero to the CTers. If Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were alive today, the CTers would defend them as fellow fighters against "The Man".


That's the saddest part of all this. A real struggle against actual tyranny is taking place right now, and these guys can do nothing better than turn it into the latest episode of their fantasy life.
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Old 22nd June 2009, 12:07 PM   #21
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Isn't is a conspiracy theory that the Iranian government keeps alleging caused the protests? You know, the one where Britain and the USA influenced the people of Iran to protest in the street.
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That's the saddest part of all this. A real struggle against actual tyranny is taking place right now, and these guys can do nothing better than turn it into the latest episode of their fantasy life.
And aren't said guys supposedly in favor of "freedom"?
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Isn't is a conspiracy theory that the Iranian government keeps alleging caused the protests? You know, the one where Britain and the USA influenced the people of Iran to protest in the street.
Iranian government apologists on the #iranelection twitter feed were making very clumsy but concerted attempts to push this angle. They got shouted down quickly. I'm sure at least a few of them were friendly neighborhood Iranian intelligence agents. The others, useful idiots.
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Iranian government apologists on the #iranelection twitter feed were making very clumsy but concerted attempts to push this angle. They got shouted down quickly. I'm sure at least a few of them were friendly neighborhood Iranian intelligence agents. The others, useful idiots.


If true, then Iran really needs to hire a better class of shill.
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Old 23rd June 2009, 05:47 AM   #25
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And aren't said guys supposedly in favor of "freedom"?
Well, no, what they really want is to run everything themselves. Then they'll crush all dissent to ensure they stay in power.
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Old 23rd June 2009, 07:46 AM   #26
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The biggest mistake these theories make, in my opinion, is the removal of agency from nearly all actors apart from the NWO.

Ok - I haven't seen the evidence, but let's be generous and say the CIA has funnelled cash to some segments of the protest movement in Iran. To what degree is the CIA responsible for what is happening? This is a question not-often asked in CT circles. If there's a hand of the CIA there, then the WHOLE phenomenon is entirely the product of CIA action.

But this disrespects the peoples whose histories, politics and lives have pushed them to the point to start the actions in question. Was the "orange revolution" not an organic product of Ukraine society? Even if there were westerners involved, all they did was provide backing to a group that was already acting under its own power.

You can see this frequently in reference to Al Qaeda. Because the US and Bin Laden had coinciding interests in the eighties, OBL is a "CIA creation" or "lackey". Cause the ISI and the CIA had coinciding interests, "the ISI is a puppet of the CIA".

Very simplistic thinking that on some level I find quite culturally chauvinistic, to devalue the potency of the domestic factions in question because at one point Western powers saw some benefit in backing a particular horse. Maybe some times this aid was key in assisting certain actors at certain times. Maybe some times the aid was a drop in the bucket, or ineffective, or otherwise not that an important a factor in the eventual outcomes.

But this is a degree of insight not often seen in CT circles.
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Remember these are people who think that Arabs aren't sophisticated enough to hijack planes and then fly them. Educated about other cultures they are not.
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Well, no, what they really want is to run everything themselves. Then they'll crush all dissent to ensure they stay in power.

Which is exactly what they accuse the NWO or Illuminati or whoever of doing.

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Old 25th June 2009, 02:34 AM   #29
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Here's a new conspiracy theory, as predcited. The Iranian protestor was actually killed by a hired assasin, not a member of the Iranian military. Damn Zionists causing trouble again!

http://www.smeggys.co.uk/viewtopic.p...&sd=a&start=40

Smeggys is rapidly rivalling the David Icke forum for sheer lunacy, idiocy and rabid anti-semitism.
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Which is exactly what they accuse the NWO or Illuminati or whoever of doing.
Yep, it's called projection. Because they are unscrupulous they assume everyone else is too.
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Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

http://www.infowars.com/are-the-iran...or-revolution/
I'm surprised the article didnt mention operation ajax.

"The British and U.S. spy agencies replaced the government of the popular Prime Minister Mosaddeq with an all-powerful monarch, Mohammed Reza Pahlevi who ruled for the next 26 years until he was overthrown in 1979."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Ir..._d%27%C3%A9tat

By Ken Ballen and Patrick Doherty Monday, June 15, 2009
The election results in Iran may reflect the will of the Iranian people. Many experts are claiming that the margin of victory of incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was the result of fraud or manipulation, but our nationwide public opinion survey of Iranians three weeks before the vote showed Ahmadinejad leading by a more than 2 to 1 margin -- greater than his actual apparent margin of victory in Friday's election.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...061401757.html

By Joby Warrick Monday, June 30, 2008
The Bush administration told Congress last year of a secret plan to dramatically expand covert operations inside Iran as part of a long-running effort to destabilize the country's ruling regime, according to a report published yesterday.
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Among the opposition groups allegedly receiving cash and other assistance are ethnic Balochi dissidents in southern Iraq as well as established resistance groups such the Mujaheddin-e Khalq.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...901881_pf.html
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