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Old 7th July 2009, 09:55 PM   #1
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Michael Jackson and the number 7

According to TMZ, Michael Jackson and the number "7" will "blow your mind":

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-- Michael Jackson signed his will on 7/7/02.
-- Michael Jackson's memorial was on 7/7/09 ... exactly 7 years after the will was signed.
-- Michael Jackson's two biggest hits -- "Black & White" and "Billie Jean" -- were each #1 for 7 weeks.
-- Michael Jackson's three biggest albums -- "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" -- each produced 7 top 40 hits.
-- Michael Jackson was the 7th of 9 children.
-- Michael Jackson was born in 1958 ... 19 + 58 = 77
-- Michael Jackson died on the 25th ... 2 + 5 = 7
-- Michael Jackson has 7 letters in his first and last name.
This is a quite selective list. For example, "Michael Jackson was the 7th of 9 children" is only partly true. The Jackson family history shows Michael had a brother Brandon Jackson (born March 12, 1957) who died at birth. If you count Brandon, Michael would be the eighth child in the family. Whereas, Michael Jackson's middle name is Joseph (6 letters), which is likely why it was omitted.

This much in line with Uri Geller's 11-11 "effect", which Claus talked about. Or similiar claims by Richard Hoagland on a 9/11 conspiracy a few years back.
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Old 7th July 2009, 10:00 PM   #2
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Michael Jackson's three biggest albums -- "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" -- each produced 7 top 40 hits.
I would only consider this remarkable if, by comparison, the majority of other platinum albums didn't contain at least 7 top 40 hits.

I mean, albums don't hit the platinum mark if folks only like one song on them.
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Old 8th July 2009, 07:19 AM   #3
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Single releases at that time were also on 7 inch records!
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Old 8th July 2009, 07:27 AM   #4
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Quote:
-- Michael Jackson signed his will on 7/7/02.
-- Michael Jackson's memorial was on 7/7/09 ... exactly 7 years after the will was signed.
-- Michael Jackson's two biggest hits -- "Black & White" and "Billie Jean" -- were each #1 for 7 weeks.
-- Michael Jackson's three biggest albums -- "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" -- each produced 7 top 40 hits.
-- Michael Jackson was the 7th of 9 children.
-- Michael Jackson was born in 1958 ... 19 + 58 = 77
1+958 = 959
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-- Michael Jackson died on the 25th ... 2 + 5 = 7
2*5 = 10
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-- Michael Jackson has 7 letters in his first and last name.
Seems that every single point contains numbers that aren't 7, except for the one about him being the 7th child which is just plain wrong. Numerology is silly enough, but there's really no excuse for bad numerology.
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Old 8th July 2009, 08:09 AM   #5
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Seems that every single point contains numbers that aren't 7, except for the one about him being the 7th child which is just plain wrong. Numerology is silly enough, but there's really no excuse for bad numerology.
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Old 8th July 2009, 08:32 AM   #6
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Let's see. Today is July 8th, which is one more than seven! I was born in 1981, and 1-9 is 8, 8 -1 is.... 7! See? It's all a delicate tapestry! I have ten fingers, however, I eat three times a day. And, what is ten minus three? Seven!

I was born on June 18th, which is 11 more than seven. If we take the seventh month *cough* we get september, of course! What happened September 11th?

As you can see, numerology has conclusive proven my divine and dare I say, prophetic birth which clearly heralded to the world the world trade center attack. You may now bow before me.
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Old 8th July 2009, 10:44 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by wackyvorlon View Post
Let's see. Today is July 8th, which is one more than seven! I was born in 1981, and 1-9 is 8, 8 -1 is.... 7! See? It's all a delicate tapestry! I have ten fingers, however, I eat three times a day. And, what is ten minus three? Seven!

I was born on June 18th, which is 11 more than seven. If we take the seventh month *cough* we get september, of course! What happened September 11th?

As you can see, numerology has conclusive proven my divine and dare I say, prophetic birth which clearly heralded to the world the world trade center attack. You may now bow before me.

We're not worthy! We're not worthy!!!

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eta: Ooooh, this is the 7th post in this thread, so I must be right!
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Old 8th July 2009, 11:23 AM   #8
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Quote:
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-- Michael Jackson signed his will on 7/7/02.
-- Michael Jackson's memorial was on 7/7/09 ... exactly 7 years after the will was signed.
-- Michael Jackson's two biggest hits -- "Black & White" and "Billie Jean" -- were each #1 for 7 weeks.
-- Michael Jackson's three biggest albums -- "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" -- each produced 7 top 40 hits.
-- Michael Jackson was the 7th of 9 children.
-- Michael Jackson was born in 1958 ... 19 + 58 = 77
-- Michael Jackson died on the 25th ... 2 + 5 = 7
-- Michael Jackson has 7 letters in his first and last name.
These claims are as bad as the Bible Code. It's comical that anyone buys into any of this stuff.
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Old 8th July 2009, 03:03 PM   #9
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This game is fun!

my magic number is 19

I was born in 1981 which adds up to 19
I am getting married on the 12th, but been dating for 7 years which equals 19
I met my wife when i was 19
if you take my age (28) and minus the number of months my first child will be born in you get 19
if you add up the letters in the state, town and zip code i am living it equals 19
My cell phone has the numbers 1-9 on it and if you remove the "-" thats 19!
There are nineteen letters in the phrase "there are nineteen let"
My car has 2.5 liters of displacement so if you multiply that you get 20 and subtract 1 liter that is due to engine gunk and old age you get 19!

I am spooked out!
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Old 8th July 2009, 03:07 PM   #10
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There are nineteen letters in the phrase "there are nineteen let"
That's the spookiest one yet!
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Old 8th July 2009, 03:26 PM   #11
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MJ had a semi-rivalry with Prince, who had a song called "7".

(And because Prince's fans tend to be as kooky as MJs, similar lists of coincidences about him were circulated when the song came out.)
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Old 8th July 2009, 04:37 PM   #12
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Plus he rose to fame as the star of the "Jackson 7!"

Oh wait a minute....

Never mind.....
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Old 8th July 2009, 08:41 PM   #13
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The Finnish tabloid Ilta-Sanomat has picked up on this non-story. Woo-hoo.
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Old 8th July 2009, 08:44 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by runnah View Post
This game is fun!

my magic number is 19

I was born in 1981 which adds up to 19
I am getting married on the 12th, but been dating for 7 years which equals 19
I met my wife when i was 19
if you take my age (28) and minus the number of months my first child will be born in you get 19
if you add up the letters in the state, town and zip code i am living it equals 19
My cell phone has the numbers 1-9 on it and if you remove the "-" thats 19!
There are nineteen letters in the phrase "there are nineteen let"
My car has 2.5 liters of displacement so if you multiply that you get 20 and subtract 1 liter that is due to engine gunk and old age you get 19!

I am spooked out!
Wow, you gave me chills. I could get addicted to this shivery feeling. I volunteer to be your token forum groupie. Which basically means I'll post you a cheer now and then. I'm not a Jackson fan. so that's about the extent of my kookiness.

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Old 8th July 2009, 09:53 PM   #15
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MJ had a semi-rivalry with Prince, who had a song called "7".

(And because Prince's fans tend to be as kooky as MJs, similar lists of coincidences about him were circulated when the song came out.)
wait a minute, i am kooky? Well, all right, I can live with that.
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the word 'Prince's' has 7 letters! what does this mean?
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In addition, the most likely number combination to come up when rolling standard cubicle dice is seven. There are 36 possible combinations, and 6 of those combinations add up to the number 7. 6/36, when reduced to the lowest common denominator, is 1/7. 1*7=7, ergo, all craps tables are haunted by Michael Jackson, and Michael Jackson is the patron saint of wrong bettors
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Originally Posted by iiwo View Post
Do you mind if I borrow this for a sig line?
Be my guest.

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if you take my age (28) and minus the number of months my first child will be born in you get 19
Surely your child will only be born in one month?
Edit: Not to worry though, it still works.
Your age (28) minus the one month your child will be born (=27). 2+7 = 9, add the 1 that you subtracted in the first place and you have 19!
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In addition, the most likely number combination to come up when rolling standard cubicle dice is seven. There are 36 possible combinations, and 6 of those combinations add up to the number 7. 6/36, when reduced to the lowest common denominator, is 1/7. 1*7=7, ergo, all craps tables are haunted by Michael Jackson, and Michael Jackson is the patron saint of wrong bettors
[Tom Lehrer] ... well, one sixth, actually. But the idea is the important thing. [/Tom Lehrer]
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19 + 58 = 77
Seem strange to stop there. Genuine numerology requires that you resolve to the ultimate...

77 = 7 + 7 = 14

14 = 1 + 4 = 5

Oh, now I see why they stopped where they did.

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Michael Jackson's memorial was on 7/7/09
What, no arithmetic here either?

7 + 7 + 9 = 23 : 2 + 3 = 5 again

There were 5 members in the Jackson 5.

Clearly 5 is the number we should be investigating.

However, "Ben", arguably Jackson's best song has only 3 letters.

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Michael Jackson's three biggest albums -- "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" -- each produced 7 top 40 hits
What did his four biggest, two biggest and one biggest albums produce? Why choose the three biggest? What's so special about three all of a sudden?
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Seem strange to stop there. Genuine numerology requires that you resolve to the ultimate...

77 = 7 + 7 = 14

14 = 1 + 4 = 5

Oh, now I see why they stopped where they did.



What, no arithmetic here either?

7 + 7 + 9 = 23 : 2 + 3 = 5 again

There were 5 members in the Jackson 5.

Clearly 5 is the number we should be investigating.

However, "Ben", arguably Jackson's best song has only 3 letters.



What did his four biggest, two biggest and one biggest albums produce? Why choose the three biggest? What's so special about three all of a sudden?
You just said!
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However, "Ben", arguably Jackson's best song has only 3 letters

Yet another gateway to the past.
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CNN says the magic number is 5. I am confused.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/07/1...ics/index.html
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Thumbs down Uh-huh

There is a time and a place for skepticism from you so called 'critical' thinkers. But you can't just make stuff up to disprove something. When do things stop becoming coincidences? But you all just let your biases get in the way of your sight. Just because you find something that doesn't have an obvious explanation, it is automatically tagged as "woo." And so now you all disregard any manifestation of logic. In this case, the basic fact that numerology is extremely good at predicting the past.

Shame on the you who choose not to be smart.
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Well, this psychic says it all about the number 5...so there!

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/07/1...ics/index.html

edit: DOH! that's what I get for not reading the last couple posts before posting.

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There is a time and a place for skepticism from you so called 'critical' thinkers. But you can't just make stuff up to disprove something. When do things stop becoming coincidences? But you all just let your biases get in the way of your sight. Just because you find something that doesn't have an obvious explanation, it is automatically tagged as "woo." And so now you all disregard any manifestation of logic. In this case, the basic fact that numerology is extremely good at predicting the past.

Shame on the you who choose not to be smart.
You're kidding, right? Aren't you? Please say yes.

If not, do you know the definition of the word predict?
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Originally Posted by FramerDave View Post
You're kidding, right? Aren't you? Please say yes.

If not, do you know the definition of the word predict?
Why do you question the Harbinger of the Pasttm?

What, you think numerology is for the future?


...


Of course I'm kidding. Numerology is for the future.
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Of course it's real.

I said previously "Clearly 5 is the number we should be investigating." and now people point out a CNN report, far more credible than TMZ, which confirms my intuition to be on the money.

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Jackson's talent was discovered when he was 5 years old, he came to fame as a member of the Jackson 5 and he planned a series of 50 concert dates in London, England, as part of a comeback tour before he died on June 25 at the age of 50
And she's a noted numerologist AND author!!! So it must be true.

Okay, I've tried to clear up this mess in a blog post: Michael Jackson numerology 7 & 5

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Of course it's real.

I said previously "Clearly 5 is the number we should be investigating." and now people point out a CNN report, far more credible than TMZ, which confirms my intuition to be on the money.

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Jackson's talent was discovered when he was 5 years old, he came to fame as a member of the Jackson 5 and he planned a series of 50 concert dates in London, England, as part of a comeback tour before he died on June 25 at the age of 50
And she's a noted numerologist AND author!!! So it must be true.

And nobody bothered to mention the number 50 - get your shocks and gasps ready - is not the number 5? 50 = 5 * (5*2). It's only particular to the decimal base system we use. If we use hex, he's 3216. We use oct, and now he's 628.

Of course, we should ignore the mass of non-coincidences, because it's not sensational.
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Of course, we should ignore the mass of non-coincidences, because it's not sensational.

There are no non-coincidences, there are only different paradigms and various non-predictive results of free will - that's why the numbers 2, 5, 6, AND 7 are all significant in this instance. Give it time and the numbers 1, 3, 4, 8 and 9 will probably rear their heads too.
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There are no non-coincidences, there are only different paradigms and various non-predictive results of free will - that's why the numbers 2, 5, 6, AND 7 are all significant in this instance. Give it time and the numbers 1, 3, 4, 8 and 9 will probably rear their heads too.
Oops. Non- wasn't supposed to go with coincidence. My bad.

Although it does give an interesting spin...
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[Tom Lehrer] ... well, one sixth, actually. But the idea is the important thing. [/Tom Lehrer]
That's the cool thing about numerology, you don't even have to do the math right, yet people will still believe it!
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Jackson once owned a Lincoln and Lincoln once drove...

Oh. Nevermind. I guess that doesn't work afterall.
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C'mon man...Everybody knows that Michael Jackson is alive and well in New Mexico with Tupac, Hitler and Jim Morrison. They've all been close friends since highschool (Not the highschool you've been lead to think you went to)!!!

But the Illuminati Brainwashing facility powered by HAARP reptilian microwaves that bounced off of the earth from the Ancient Mayan civilizations, toward pluto, bounced back and is now plaguing our fragile human minds today!!! It's all in the "horoscope"...(Which is ancient sumerian code)

They use horoscopes to condition the masses into believing they are a certain type of person and cause them to engage in behavior against their will.

The Joo's have interstellar, multidimensional rocket ships that they use to spy on all our activitivities, by beaming satellite signals from our RFID chips back to the mothership.

They run the federal reserve so they can ursurp all of our Gold and use it to build an inpenetrable planet that even the likes of which their strongest enemies (David Icke, Mad Dr. Genius Footballer expert) couldn't penetrate!!!

9/11 wasn't an inside job...9/11 truth was an inside job, embedded into the populace to divert people from Tupac and Michael Jackson, but the mainstream media will fight the Reptilian Joo Mason RUN 9/11 truthster's to their knees and answer to their true leader, Nelson D. Rockefeller, who sends telepathic orders from the 9th dimension of planet nebula into the brain waves of Shepard Smith's newborn son, Damien.

It's fun making up my own BS conspiracy theories based on other BS conspiracy theories...That's kinda how it works, isn't it?
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Old 14th July 2009, 10:43 AM   #35
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C'mon man...Everybody knows that Michael Jackson is alive and well in New Mexico with Tupac, Hitler and Jim Morrison. They've all been close friends since highschool (Not the highschool you've been lead to think you went to)!!!

But the Illuminati Brainwashing facility powered by HAARP reptilian microwaves that bounced off of the earth from the Ancient Mayan civilizations, toward pluto, bounced back and is now plaguing our fragile human minds today!!! It's all in the "horoscope"...(Which is ancient sumerian code)

They use horoscopes to condition the masses into believing they are a certain type of person and cause them to engage in behavior against their will.

The Joo's have interstellar, multidimensional rocket ships that they use to spy on all our activitivities, by beaming satellite signals from our RFID chips back to the mothership.

They run the federal reserve so they can ursurp all of our Gold and use it to build an inpenetrable planet that even the likes of which their strongest enemies (David Icke, Mad Dr. Genius Footballer expert) couldn't penetrate!!!

9/11 wasn't an inside job...9/11 truth was an inside job, embedded into the populace to divert people from Tupac and Michael Jackson, but the mainstream media will fight the Reptilian Joo Mason RUN 9/11 truthster's to their knees and answer to their true leader, Nelson D. Rockefeller, who sends telepathic orders from the 9th dimension of planet nebula into the brain waves of Shepard Smith's newborn son, Damien.

It's fun making up my own BS conspiracy theories based on other BS conspiracy theories...That's kinda how it works, isn't it?
You skipped the bit on how Elvis stole that time machine from The Phoenix Project and used it to sabotage half of NASA's space launches, as per order of Bruce Lee, who faked his own death to help with the Big Mac project run by the NWO, which adds in toxic chemicals meant to sterilize the human race so the NWO can please their otherworldy masters. It was these otherworldy masters that sent Bruce Lee back through the wormhole at Montauk Point to manipulate Elvis to his bidding.... You're right, this is fun!
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Old 14th July 2009, 12:14 PM   #36
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Michael Jackson and Easy-E both had Jerry Curls, both wore Black Ray Bans, Both lived in L.A., Both grew up in broken homes, both sold many albums,both masonic zionist joo's, but what the "sheeple" don't know is that lucifer actually gave rise to death row records to tear down the divinity of Epic records, in a battle between Good and Evil waged many quantum centuries ago.

The evidence of this can be found in the ancient sumerian texts...

The recently discovered ancient drawings of a chair (which if the "sheeple" did any research, represents the electric chair logo of Death Row) pitted against a black and white angel (symbolism for yin and yang) with a black jerry curl and the ability to "walk on moons".

It was all prophecized.

It was also later removed from the bible by the evil Nebulan reptile joo's.

The original passage read:

"And thou with black locks of curling silk, black as the devil and bright as God duth challenge thy speakers of inelligable tangents over rhythmic modern funk breaks.

So shall the battle be waged upon thy city of angels and "NEVER" shall the "LAND" again be squandered by gangsta's of his darkest of ruling red fists. Behold, the maker of numbers shall squander thine intellect with thy bat spit insane ramblings of a blind man. Know thy enemy, who speaks in numbers and Curl's thy Jerry's
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Old 14th July 2009, 09:21 PM   #37
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As I mentioned above, Richard Hoagland's silly 9-11 claim:

Originally Posted by www.enterprisemission.com
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It became obvious fairly early that there were some strange coincidences surrounding these events. As was quickly reported throughout the Internet, there were a whole bunch of odd "9-1-1" and "11" coincidences that linked to these horrific attacks.


For instance:

The attacks took place on 9/11
9+1+1 = 11
Each WTC Tower had 110 floors, which is a multiple of 11
The aircraft which ultimately hit the Pentagon was American Airlines Flight 77. 77 is another multiple of 11
American Airlines Flight 11, the first plane flown into World Trade Tower2, had 11 crewmembers. A total of 65 people were on Flight 11. 6+5 = 11
The second plane, United Airlines Flight 175, hit the World Trade Tower 1 at 9:02 AM. 9+2 = 11
9/11 is the 254th day of the year. 2+5+4 = 11
After 9/11, there are 111 days left in the year
New York City (where the major attack occurred) consists of 11 letters
New York was the 11th state admitted into the Union
President Bush ordered flags to fly at half mast until 9/22, making an 11 day period of mourning
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Who's behind it? According to Hoagland:

Originally Posted by www.enterprisemission.com
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What is not commonly known is that the roots of modern Freemasonry extend far beyond the mid-eighteenth Century, all the way back to ancient Egypt, and more importantly; through a Middle Ages movement commonly known as the "Knight's Templar."

It is, we now suspect, the remnants of this Templar/Masonic/American axis that were the true target of these attacks -- in other words, September 11th was a direct thrust at the heart of the American Revolutionary Experiment … in the critical year (see below) of 2001.
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... A fine reason why these people are not taken seriously.
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