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10th July 2009, 10:02 AM	#1
wackyvorlon Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sarnia, ON, Canada Posts: 317	*Is there anything* that isn't linked to cancer?** It seems the more we research, the more things are identified as linked to cancer. It almost easier to define that which doesn't cause cancer than that which does. Is this just statistical noise, or are humans really that vulnerable?

10th July 2009, 10:11 AM	#2
Ikarus Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 265	Our cells are quite vulnerable to many influences, including many sorts of radiation. But that doesn't answer your question. I think perhaps the words you are looking for are along the lines of "confirmation bias".
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10th July 2009, 10:16 AM	#3
Z D.D.D. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In a den in my lair, on the edge of your mind. Posts: 9,166	Nearly 100% of all cancer patients were born at one point or another; so birth is the number one cause of cancer.
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10th July 2009, 10:18 AM	#4
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a multiverse of my own creation Posts: 16,223	Quote: Is there anything that isn't linked to cancer? Not by more than six degrees of separation.
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10th July 2009, 10:18 AM	#5
BenBurch Gatekeeper of The Left Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Universe 35.2 ms ahead of this one. Posts: 13,782	Puppies. Puppies are not linked to cancer.
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10th July 2009, 10:19 AM	#6
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a multiverse of my own creation Posts: 16,223	Originally Posted by BenBurch Puppies. Puppies are not linked to cancer. Says you.
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10th July 2009, 10:26 AM	#7
macdoc Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Planet earth on slow boil Posts: 2,616	Yes they are ..puppies can smell cancer...... http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...og_cancer.html

10th July 2009, 10:26 AM	#8
Cavemonster Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,060	By linked, do you mean, possible contributing cause, or just any association? Avocados seem to have only positive links that I can find.
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10th July 2009, 10:39 AM	#9
wackyvorlon Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sarnia, ON, Canada Posts: 317	Possible cause. I admit, I'm often alarmed by people pumping gasoline... You'd be surprised how carcinogenic that is.
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10th July 2009, 10:40 AM	#10
HansMustermann Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,099	Originally Posted by wackyvorlon It seems the more we research, the more things are identified as linked to cancer. It almost easier to define that which doesn't cause cancer than that which does. Is this just statistical noise, or are humans really that vulnerable? All animals are so vulnerable to the mutation that is cancer, that we have layers upon layers of defenses for _when_ not _if_ that happens. Even the fact that you'll die of old age eventually, is because of the division counter limits in all your cells, which in turn seem to be there just as defense against cancer. You'll die of old age in some decades, just so you don't die of cancer within _years_. But those defenses often fail. So basically, yeah, we're really that fragile in that aspect.

10th July 2009, 10:49 AM	#11
patchbunny Muse Join Date: May 2004 Location: Right about... here. Posts: 661	[George Carlin]This just in. Scientists have discovered that saliva causes stomach cancer. But only when swallowed in small amounts over long periods of time.[/George Carlin]
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10th July 2009, 10:58 AM	#12
JJM Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,720	We (chemists) have a saying that the only compounds that don't cause cancer are those that are so toxic that they kill you before a tumor can develop.
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10th July 2009, 12:43 PM	#13
macdoc Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Planet earth on slow boil Posts: 2,616	and some of the stuff they drip into to you to cure you treads that line rather closely....

10th July 2009, 03:03 PM	#14
plumjam Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 6,362	Crabs

10th July 2009, 04:04 PM	#15
realpaladin Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: I live not very often where my home is. Posts: 1,261	Absolute vacuum. Absolute zero. Walking on the surface of the sun.
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10th July 2009, 04:08 PM	#16
Ducky Titanium Superhero Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saint Paul, Minnesota Posts: 10,769	Originally Posted by Z Nearly 100% of all cancer patients were born at one point or another; so birth is the number one cause of cancer. I wasn't born. I was cat'ed from /dev/null.

10th July 2009, 04:12 PM	#17
realpaladin Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: I live not very often where my home is. Posts: 1,261	Originally Posted by Ducky I wasn't born. I was cat'ed from /dev/null. Thinking about it... this is a nice one for the Yrreg threads if modified to: 'cat /dev/random > my.existence' Mind if I borrow?
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10th July 2009, 04:12 PM	#18
Mitchell314 Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NC, US Posts: 282	Sleeping! Wait, no, everybody who has had cancer had slept in their past. Originally Posted by Ducky I wasn't born. I was cat'ed from /dev/null. Man, I'm so sorry for ever doubting you.
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10th July 2009, 05:04 PM	#19
Z D.D.D. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In a den in my lair, on the edge of your mind. Posts: 9,166	Originally Posted by plumjam Crabs Incorrect. Crabs are linked to the constellation Cancer. Neener neener.
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10th July 2009, 05:05 PM	#20
Z D.D.D. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In a den in my lair, on the edge of your mind. Posts: 9,166	Originally Posted by Ducky I wasn't born. I was cat'ed from /dev/null. Well, I DID say 'nearly 100%'. Always leave a little wriggle room... or at least, that's what she told me. HE said 'Cram that sucker full.'
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10th July 2009, 05:25 PM	#21
Ducky Titanium Superhero Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saint Paul, Minnesota Posts: 10,769	Originally Posted by realpaladin Thinking about it... this is a nice one for the Yrreg threads if modified to: 'cat /dev/random > my.existence' Mind if I borrow? Sure! I wasn't sure so many unix geeks would be in this thread. HAHA!

10th July 2009, 05:36 PM	#22
shandyjan Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N/W England Posts: 1,013	Z you crack me up What gets me is one thing can give you cancer..but it can prevent heart disease..you get the drift. Its like...eat it or nay..pick your disease sometimes Then something is good for you...no its not, its bad for you. Id say just give up reading.
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10th July 2009, 05:50 PM	#23
Z D.D.D. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In a den in my lair, on the edge of your mind. Posts: 9,166	Originally Posted by shandyjan Z you crack me up What gets me is one thing can give you cancer..but it can prevent heart disease..you get the drift. Its like...eat it or nay..pick your disease sometimes Then something is good for you...no its not, its bad for you. Id say just give up reading. I go through that all the time with the caffeine issue. My family doc, back when I was six, prescribed caffeine as a treatment for my ADHD. That prescription has been reinforced by nearly every doc I've seen since then, so I basically have no choice but to have three cups, black, a day. Of course, every few months there's a new study showing the harm of caffeine, followed by one that shows its benefits... I just ignore all those studies and keep drinking. It's easier once I add the Irish whiskey...
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