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Old 13th July 2009, 08:44 PM   #1
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TAM 7 - The Friendliest TAM

I've been to 6 TAMs (all the Vegas ones) and I have to nominate TAM 7 as the friendliest. TAM 4 might have been the best because of the science content and TAM 5 might be the funniest because of Peter Sagal and the last time I think we saw Julia Sweeney. And it might be that this is just my opinion based on very personal observations but I think there might be more to it. In that vein, I offer the 10 (because I love the metric system so much) biggest reasons why TAM 7 was the friendliest TAM. In no order but maybe you can add that or add more reasons.

1. The number. Over 1000 strong in one location and there was no reason to leave the building (except to see P&T). There was plenty to do on site unless you need to see a few Vegas-style shows every time you come to TAM. This being #6 for me, I just didn't care about the strip. You might think the numbers would make it not-so-friendly but I think it had a freeing effect.

2. The newbies. It seemed like more than half of the attendees were first timers. If they all come back next year and all the ones skipping this year return, we may have to move TAM to a football stadium. I met a very pretty lady from Texas who give 2 word answers to all my questions until I asked her what made her come to this one. I'll treat her answer as private but she really opened up about how the events in her life led her to TAM. Multiply that by all the newbies in attendance and you can imagine the conversations that were started.

3. The bowling. Thanks to Hutch for setting this up. It's hard to start a conversation with someone 6 lanes over but on your "team" you cheer each other on and you make nice or snide comments about the people on either side of you. Paperskater is even cuter than her avatar but bowling requires a shorter skirt which would have added 15 pins to her average. And I won't embarrass a certain bowler from Fresno but it was like watching Jennifer Aniston bowling.

4. The Hrab. George Hrab was visible throughout the conference and he did a great job on the talent show. This show and the bowling should become TAM traditions and George should always be the emcee of the talent show as far as I'm concerned.

5. The wedding. OMG, a wedding at TAM. I hope this isn't a spoiler for the SGU podcast later this month. But how can you not feel friendly when you go to a wedding. They had everything planned so well except they didn’t provide cake for 1,000.

6. The speakers. We have had many great speakers at previous TAMs and I wonder if people will look back at TAM 7 and say that the speakers were not so famous. But that meant you didn't feel "overpowered". I put that in quotes because I'm pretty sure that's not the word I want but I'm stuck with it for now. Take Adam Savage - famous to us but his talk was very personal and low key, delivered while leaning back against a table on stage.

7. The election. There isn't any this year. TAMs 2, 4 and 6 were before elections and there was a political tension in the air. This time that tension was nowhere to be found until Michael Shermer asked for a show of hands for who considered themselves liberals, libertarians, and conservatives. Rough estimates (based on Dr. Shermer's comments): 85-90% liberal; 10-15% libertarian; < 1% conservative. Strange coincidence: I think it was TAM 4 when Michael Shermer asked who had some kind of belief in a god - 10-15%.

8. The breakfast. Breakfast before the meeting was rather sparse but it was in the same room as the meeting and at the same time as the SGU podcast was being recorded. The result was that people stayed together a little more than TAM 6 at least.

9. The clock. There was no clock in the meeting room but every thing was kept on schedule. Far from feeling rigid, it just felt like everything was well planned and your time wasn't going to be wasted because a break lasted 20 minutes longer than it was supposed to.

10. Robert Lancaster. His heartfelt comments struck a chord with many in the audience and were probably the only deviation from what I said about being on time. But the audience was more than willing to give him that time for reasons you probably already know and can certainly find elsewhere on the forum.
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Old 13th July 2009, 09:31 PM   #2
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Um. I almost don't want to defile this thread by posting right now in my sleep deprived state (and weird state from also working 12 hourse straight today-I'm still at work as I post!), but will add that:

11. The HUGS were unforgettable. Hugs are definitely friendly and there was plenty of hugging going on! The celebs hugged, the people who were TAM newbies hugged, friends from TAMs past hugged, forumites hugged. This huggability of TAM attendees is an ingredient of what makes a TAM great.


Also, maybe the friendliness that PaulK has pointed out is part of why people are now calling TAM 7 the best TAM ever?
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Old 13th July 2009, 09:37 PM   #3
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TAM is drinking and hugging and awesome skeptical talks.
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Old 14th July 2009, 12:18 AM   #4
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Old 14th July 2009, 01:21 AM   #5
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This was my first TAM and I have to agree that all of the reasons you mentioned made it an amazing experience! It was also great how excited people were when they found out it was my first TAM. This made us newbies feel really welcome!
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Old 14th July 2009, 02:41 AM   #6
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I am still in my little TAM-inspired bubble of Happy, but about to fall over and get a few hours of sleep before resuming Life As Usual. I have only been to two TAMs, but this one was very cool, even though I didn't get to do the fabulous late-night bar conversations this year.

I liked being surprised by the speakers I'd never heard of that were very good. And I want to echo the sentiment that the time management was really good this year. Also, I like the breakfast being in the same room, that made it a lot easier to cope with the whole Morning thing...

Excelsior! Miss_Kitt

ETA to all TAM newbies (and newbies to be): You're just wonderful friends we haven't gotten to meet in person before! TAM is, first and foremost, a building and celebration of the community of like-minded people that is JREF. The speakers are cool, but it is the person to person contacts and conversations that will stick with you. We don't realize, until we do TAM, that we're lonely for others of 'our people'. To spend a weekend surrounded by people you can expect will understand what you mean without a giant explanation is life-giving; to be able to speak your mind without fearing to offend or start an argument is healing.

See you all next year!!
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Old 14th July 2009, 12:21 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Miss_Kitt View Post
I am still in my little TAM-inspired bubble of Happy, but about to fall over and get a few hours of sleep before resuming Life As Usual. I have only been to two TAMs, but this one was very cool, even though I didn't get to do the fabulous late-night bar conversations this year.

I liked being surprised by the speakers I'd never heard of that were very good. And I want to echo the sentiment that the time management was really good this year. Also, I like the breakfast being in the same room, that made it a lot easier to cope with the whole Morning thing...

Excelsior! Miss_Kitt

ETA to all TAM newbies (and newbies to be): You're just wonderful friends we haven't gotten to meet in person before! TAM is, first and foremost, a building and celebration of the community of like-minded people that is JREF. The speakers are cool, but it is the person to person contacts and conversations that will stick with you. We don't realize, until we do TAM, that we're lonely for others of 'our people'. To spend a weekend surrounded by people you can expect will understand what you mean without a giant explanation is life-giving; to be able to speak your mind without fearing to offend or start an argument is healing.

See you all next year!!
Miss_Kitt nailed it in her ETA! Actually seeing, hugging and talking to all the people was more than way cool covered in awesome sauce! Meeting Robert, Susan, Jamie and Nobby were life-altering experiences for me. Such strong, brave people!

I truly felt like many of the folks were people I had known all my life. I was never uncomfortable about meeting anyone! I just hope folks enjoyed meeting us as much as we enjoyed meeting them.

A special shout out to all the volunteers who kept everything running smoothly and my Ding-a-Lings! And, of course, the Secret Cabal.
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Old 14th July 2009, 02:55 PM   #8
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I'll tell you, people here were so kind after my husband died last year and this year just about everyone asked how I was doing. I hope to be able to arrive and maybe stay longer next year so I can get to know people better. My trip was short this year. I finally got to meet Chicken Pot Pie too...
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Old 14th July 2009, 03:16 PM   #9
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I'll tell you, people here were so kind after my husband died last year and this year just about everyone asked how I was doing. I hope to be able to arrive and maybe stay longer next year so I can get to know people better. My trip was short this year. I finally got to meet Chicken Pot Pie too...
Aww, shucks! I got to meet YOU! Thank you, sweetie pie!
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I'll tell you, people here were so kind after my husband died last year and this year just about everyone asked how I was doing. I hope to be able to arrive and maybe stay longer next year so I can get to know people better. My trip was short this year. I finally got to meet Chicken Pot Pie too...
I didn't get to meet you!

I don't think...
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Old 14th July 2009, 03:41 PM   #11
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My kind of people

Since I have only attended the last two TAMs, I have limited background for comparison. However, they do seem to be getting bigger and better. I liked the spacial layout of the venue this year. The speakers are always interesting, entertaining and available. The best part for me is the pervasive sense of community. The late night conversations are priceless!
I look forward to meeting some of you next year - or perhaps we have already met.
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Old 14th July 2009, 03:48 PM   #12
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It was a stunningly friendly and camaradericious TAM. I had a marvelous time. I'll see each and every one of you again next year!

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Old 14th July 2009, 04:16 PM   #13
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I had an awesome time as well! I also noticed how huggable everyone was. Even the people who didn't know me until they commented on my socks would hug me when they saw me after having commented on my socks. It was really great to hang out with many of the people that I've been interacting with for so long. I wish I could hug you all again through the computer.
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Old 14th July 2009, 04:19 PM   #14
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The hugs were frequent and unlimited! Those are the best kind!
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Old 14th July 2009, 06:32 PM   #15
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I don't think I got to meet you, Sophie. Next year!

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Old 14th July 2009, 07:10 PM   #17
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I was a TAM newb this year and wholeheartedly agree that it was very friendly. I met tons of similar minded people and had an excellent time. 100% Awesome.
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Next year I want a hug from Sophie as well. Of course I will hug anyone that wants one.
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Does anyone know what happened to TaoMacGuy?

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I don't recall ever meeting him at TAM7. Or seeing him, for that matter. Anyone else?
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I don't recall ever meeting him at TAM7. Or seeing him, for that matter. Anyone else?
Me neither. Is he a sock?
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Since I have only attended the last two TAMs, I have limited background for comparison. However, they do seem to be getting bigger and better.
My first TAM was TAM3 - about 500 people. The fact that TAM7 had attendance of 1000+ people is not only cool, but word is spreading about critical thinking.
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I don't recall ever meeting him at TAM7. Or seeing him, for that matter. Anyone else?
I wondered about that too. Never recognized him.
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He was there. He worked the registration desk Thursday.
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The hugs were frequent and unlimited! Those are the best kind!
Especially from you and Loon--Serial Huggers if I ever saw them.


Bowling will definitely be on the schedule for next year, and maybe even trophies....

Good friends, good memories (which are rapidly fading as I catch @##$#$ from my foreign customer this week...), and just plane good.

Same time next year.
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I wondered about that too. Never recognized him.
I had lunch with him...twice.
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I had lunch with him...twice.
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Especially from you and Loon--Serial Huggers if I ever saw them.


Bowling will definitely be on the schedule for next year, and maybe even trophies....

Good friends, good memories (which are rapidly fading as I catch @##$#$ from my foreign customer this week...), and just plane good.

Same time next year.
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I had lunch with him...twice.
Was he hiding from the rest of us? Was he too good to come to the bar like a normal person?
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Was he hiding from the rest of us? Was he too good to come to the bar like a normal person?
No, I saw him in the bar a few times as well.
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I don't think I got to meet you, Sophie. Next year!

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No, I saw him in the bar a few times as well.
I didn't see him there at 3:00 am with the rest of us.
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There were lots of forumites that I managed to miss meeting. :| That was entirely unintentional. The people that I did meet were wonderful and I hope I do get to go next year!
In the early TAMs (1,2,3), it was easy to meet all the forumites, because there might have only been 30-40 of us. But from about TAM 4 on, the number has always gotten up closer to 100, and it's impossible to meet everyone.
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I agree with Scrut. Though I was a TAM virgin, there were so many people I never crossed paths with, and still met some new cool people! Over 1,000 folks - how could my brain handle meeting them all?
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It was so very awesome, and even though I didn't find the lounge until saturday, I had such a great time meeting people and watching the talks I didn't mind drinking american lager. But the whole event was well worth the sacrifice.
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I have to say that while everyone I spoke with was quite friendly, I found that starting a conversation with people, in the bar for instance, was often challenging. And, I am no wallflower. People were usually sitting in closed circles with either people they knew from past TAMs or their local skeptic groups. We did make a few friends, but would like to have met more. There's always next year though.
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Old 16th July 2009, 07:01 PM   #37
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Originally Posted by katheist View Post
I have to say that while everyone I spoke with was quite friendly, I found that starting a conversation with people, in the bar for instance, was often challenging. And, I am no wallflower. People were usually sitting in closed circles with either people they knew from past TAMs or their local skeptic groups. We did make a few friends, but would like to have met more. There's always next year though.
We sat in closed circles for practical reasons only. It might seem rude, but I swear it is OK to pull up a chair.
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Originally Posted by katheist View Post
I have to say that while everyone I spoke with was quite friendly, I found that starting a conversation with people, in the bar for instance, was often challenging. And, I am no wallflower. People were usually sitting in closed circles with either people they knew from past TAMs or their local skeptic groups. We did make a few friends, but would like to have met more. There's always next year though.
So pull over a chair and ask to join in or just join in.
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So pull over a chair and ask to join in or just join in.

Or announce that you have a handful of coupons for free drinks.
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Or announce that you have a handful of coupons for free drinks.
Or offer to buy a round.
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