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AKA TEEK
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Birmingham has evidence of aliens!
My sister witnessed this event, and is a loss for an explanation. However, it seems that local paper The Birmingham Mail actually managed to get a photograph of the UFO, answering the question "is there anybody out there?" for ever.
http://www.birminghammail.net/news/b...7319-21469165/ |
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AKA TEEK
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What's particularly funny about this is that the story is dated last year. But this happened this weekend. Also, the photo is not of King's Heath or Moseley, but Broad St in Birmingham City Centre. The spaceship is real though.
So presumably there's an alien festival every year with Chinese spaceships, yes? Note: there's a Israa'/Me'raj (Night Journey to Heavens) festival in July, perhaps that could be it. If it wasn't aliens, I mean. Note2: Or maybe just someone's birthday. An alien, obviously. |
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Oh my god. Aliens in Birmingham. The last thing we want is a some strange creatures squeeking away in an unintelligible language to our new found extra terrestrial friends.
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OD’ing on Damitol
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Judging by the photo, they were trying to find a landing site, but couldn't decipher all those wacko squiggles painted on the road.
How do you Brits navigate with all that junk down there? I'd be half the time on the sidewalk by the looks of it. |
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I assume you are just kidding and using sarcasm, because occam razor does not say the "simplest explanation" is the best or whatever, it does only say one should not add unnecessaryly entity for an explanation. And in this case chinese lantern or flare is far better than spaceship. And even if you took "simplest explanation" falre is till the simplest explanation rather than alien really.
Especially that there was an identical hoax not long ago with flare. |
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Omnes Blessant Ultima necat One doesn't necessarily need evidence to back up arguments. Interresting Ian own's words. Plus that is an old skeptic game, to ask for evidence. Historian's take on skepticism |
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1) The aliens time traveled, duh. How else to explain the time stamp on the article?
2) Real Chinese lanterns strung below a kite or balloon. I would note the article is not only from last year, but August of last year. I was ready to say "oh they mistyped"...the year AND the month though? |
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Without a picture, it's kind of hard to speculate on the possible explanations.
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If you really are being serious, then I suggest you read the chapter on simplicity in Popper's book, the Logic of Scientific Discovery. He goes into great detail as to why the term "simple" is no good when assessing logical argument. Regardless, as Aepervius said, Occam's Razor has nothing to do with simplicity and everything to do with unnecessary extras.
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Reid Fleming, World's Toughest Milkman, in A Day Like Any Other The government should nationalize it! Socialized, single-payer video game development and sales now! More, cheaper, better games, right? Right? |
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Birmingham England? Heck I thought this happened in Birmingham Al.
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Mar 2009
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The details could be better. From what I can make out, it was several orange lights, as big as Chinese lanterns, sat in a line in the sky, just sitting there. Fairly high up, I might add. So no lanterns off an aircraft, not unless they were gigantic, and the aircraft is completely incapable of reflecting light, or producing a silhouette. Can't be a balloon, because you would need an impossible speed to keep the lights in a straight line. Anyone with a reasonably serious explanation?
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AKA TEEK
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I should clarify, it happened on the same weekend in 2008 and 2009. Hence the most plausible explanation, to me, is a festival of some sort. Chinese lanterns would fit the bill with the info we had but I will get a better description from my sister.
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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell I'd eat the arse out of a dead mole if it offered a fighting chance.Terry Pratchett The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.Thomas Jefferson |
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Guy's flying economy class back in 1990 when air hostesses were really attractive. The hostess asks the fellow "Would you like some of our TWA coffee" He replies No but I'd like some of your..."
Anyway lets not spoil things with a rude joke. The point is that the story doesn't specify where the plane in question was a Boeing or a Lockheed. As such this flying object is unidentified. |
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Aliens have evidence of Birmingham!
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Your missing a crucial point here. If they were actual chinese lanterns, then people would recognize them as chinese lanterns. They would also be aware of the festival for which the lanterns were part. I'm suggesting that they were actually some way up, but they looked to be the size of chinese lanterns, making them chinese lanterns higher than people can string em, and able to stay alight in the winds at that altitude, making these chinese lanterns... not chinese lanterns . It could be an extraterrestrial festival :P
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No guys, you're missing the real gist of this story: it's aliens controlling the minds of the people in Birmingham by *making* them see chinese lanterns because that's their cloaking devices put into operation!
Very efficient, those alpha-centaurians. Oh, and hello folks, this is my very first post in this forum.
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Thengyoo, thengyoo very much indeed.
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They look very pretty at night, but the first thing I think when I see people sending these off is "fire risk". Are these things safe to let off, particularly in summer when the countryside may be dry? Or is it guaranteed that by the time they come down, the flame will have gone out and they'll have cooled down?
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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell I'd eat the arse out of a dead mole if it offered a fighting chance.Terry Pratchett The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.Thomas Jefferson |
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Rimmer: Look at her! Magnificent woman! Very prim, very proper, almost austere. Some people took her for cold, thought she was aloof. Not a bit of it. She just despised fools. Quite tragic, really, because otherwise I think we'd have got on famously. |
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